八点最热报 | 昨天的专题报道提到，大马人才出走后，一些就再也不回到马来西亚这片土地了，就算一些回来也是在退休之后。这片土地让他们成长，受教育，而他们可以贡献的人力资源却奉献了给其他的国家。因为习惯了当地的生活，或是为了更好的生活和福利而移民是个人的选择。不过对国家而言，人才出走，则是一个巨大损失…… （主播: 蔡心慧）
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00:05 Yesterday's special report mentioned that after the Malaysians left,
00:09 some of them never returned to Malaysia.
00:13 Even if some of them returned, it was after they retired.
00:16 This land allowed them to grow and receive education,
00:19 while the human resources they could contribute were donated to other countries.
00:24 Because they got used to the local life, or because they wanted a better life and benefits,
00:28 they emigrated. This is their personal choice.
00:30 But for the country, the human resources they emigrated from is a huge loss.
00:35 Finance commentator Zhang Jingwei described this when he was interviewed by 8.4.
00:39 Our country's investment in education is to cultivate more talents.
00:44 However, the talents are emigrating one after another,
00:47 which is equivalent to doing charity work for others.
00:49 Investment is investment, but in the end, not only did it not pay off,
00:52 it also made the country benefit.
00:55 Where in Malaysia's job market is the problem?
00:58 The talents are constantly emigrating.
01:00 Is there a way to make the lost talents return?
01:04 Is the human resources market in our country ready to welcome their return?
01:09 Professor Ling Fuyuan of the University of Northern China's Department of Economics pointed out that
01:12 if a person can become a citizen of another country,
01:15 it means that person is either a talent,
01:17 or a very resourceful and rich investor emigrant.
01:21 Therefore, the more people emigrate overseas,
01:24 it means that not only is our country losing human resources,
01:27 but also some economic interests and opportunities.
01:30 Zhang Jingwei used medical personnel emigration as an example.
01:33 He emphasized that the emigration of talents from Malaysia will lead to a lack of human resources in the domestic market,
01:38 and will bring uncertainty to some of our country's key jobs.
01:42 According to the information of the Malaysian talent agency Talent Corp,
01:45 from 2011 to now,
01:47 there are only 10,000 Malaysian talents who applied for return service through the talent emigration program.
01:53 Of these, 6,800 people received approval.
01:56 The two experts pointed out that it is not easy to attract talent emigration.
02:00 Ling Fuyuan described that talents who have good development abroad
02:04 are like big birds,
02:06 which need a wide sky to have a space for their development.
02:10 And Malaysia is too small.
02:13 Even if the talent comes back, it may not have a good platform.
02:17 Zhang Jingwei pointed out that although our country has always introduced some measures to try to attract talent emigration,
02:23 he emphasized that for individuals,
02:25 in addition to job opportunities and salary considerations,
02:28 these talents come back to their country,
02:30 they consider more levels,
02:32 including whether they can adapt to the life here after returning,
02:36 and whether the next generation can get good education opportunities here, etc.
02:41 He said that in the current situation of China and our country,
02:44 perhaps it can only be driven by patriotic spirit.
02:47 The chances of these talents returning to their country will be higher.
02:51 So there will be a situation in Malaysia.
02:54 I still feel that it is difficult to integrate into their circle of British people.
02:58 If I didn't come out, I wouldn't know.
03:00 Because Malaysia is less crowded than I imagined.
03:03 Can't accommodate each other's body, can't accommodate each other's soul.
03:06 The reason for the separation is to fit the distance.
03:09 The distance is higher.
03:11 But you know that the exchange rate is three times lower.
03:13 It's really a foreign moon.
03:15 If it's farther than home,
03:17 after making this choice, it may not go back.
03:19 The talent emigration to Malaysia is a good thing for individuals,
03:26 but it is a great loss from a national level.
03:31 Professor Lin Fuyan and financial commentator Zhang Jingwei of Peking University said that
03:35 the talent emigration is not a loss for the talent.
03:39 Because the emigrants can obtain the citizenship rights of other countries.
03:42 Either they are top talents,
03:44 or they are investment immigrants,
03:46 and have a lot of resources.
03:48 Therefore, if the talent leaves,
03:49 economic interests and opportunities will also be lost.
03:52 In foreign countries, especially advanced countries,
03:54 those who can become citizens there are all talents.
03:56 So it's not easy for ordinary people to become their citizens.
04:00 Even if they are not talents,
04:01 they are also people with a lot of resources.
04:04 For example, rich people, very rich people,
04:06 they use the so-called investment immigrants to become citizens there.
04:10 So we are looking for talents.
04:11 And most of the talents, because they have other resources,
04:14 so other resources are also lost.
04:16 When talent is lost,
04:18 it may add to the lack of talent in key areas.
04:22 For example, we see some news about the lack of medical personnel
04:26 or the lack of interns and doctors in the newspaper.
04:29 But at the same time, we also see that
04:31 more and more medical personnel are working abroad.
04:35 The UK is one of the places.
04:37 If this trend continues,
04:39 then the outflow of talent will bring uncertainty to some of our industries.
04:44 Another point is that when Denmark invests in education,
04:48 we hope to see that we can train more and more talents.
04:52 But if these talents are trained and they all work abroad,
04:56 then basically our final benefit is that foreign countries are more than Denmark.
05:00 So in terms of investment,
05:02 we may not get the return we deserve.
05:04 And there are some top Danish experts or Danish businessmen.
05:09 If they immigrate,
05:10 then we will lose some economic benefits and opportunities.
05:14 There are only a few people in our country who have left and returned.
05:20 Lin Vuyen described that the potential provided by the workplace environment in our country is limited.
05:23 Overseas talents are like big-winged birds.
05:25 It takes a big pool to show its high flight and play.
05:29 But the pool in Malaysia is too small for a big-winged bird to fly.
05:32 Zhang Jinwei also pointed out that
05:34 because our country is a developing country,
05:36 it is difficult to compare the salary with that of a developed country.
05:38 In addition, after the return of talent,
05:40 there may not be a fair competition platform.
05:42 Therefore, unless we use the patriotic spirit of the children,
05:45 it may not be easy to get foreign talent to return.
05:48 They are not used to the working environment in Malaysia.
05:52 The pool is too small for them to play.
05:54 So they need a harder environment for them to fly.
05:57 It's like a bird.
05:59 It's big, but it can't fly at will.
06:01 It has to wait for the wind to blow.
06:03 When the time comes, it will fly to the sky.
06:05 The small sparrows laugh at the big-winged birds.
06:07 "I can fly if I want to, I can fly if I want to."
06:09 "What are you waiting for?"
06:11 When the wind blows,
06:13 it will fly to the sky.
06:15 The sparrow can never fly to the sky.
06:17 Those talents feel that the environment is not good.
06:19 Because different industries require different skills,
06:22 not all foreign skills can be used.
06:26 But from a macro perspective,
06:28 the new development direction of Malaysia
06:31 is green economy, big data,
06:34 digital transformation.
06:37 These directions are the global trend.
06:40 So in many developed countries,
06:42 if Malaysians in the relevant industries
06:44 bring their skills back,
06:47 they will have a chance to make a difference.
06:49 But I personally think that
06:51 from the perspective of returning from Malaysia,
06:53 we should not only look at these guest houses.
06:56 After they return,
06:58 can we give them a fair competition platform
07:00 so that they can have a place to stay?
07:02 Or from the perspective of employment,
07:04 can companies provide them
07:06 with a competitive salary?
07:09 And in terms of education,
07:11 can their children provide their children
07:13 with a better educational opportunity
07:15 in the future in Malaysia?
07:17 These are the conditions that we need to meet
07:20 before we can welcome them back.
07:22 In terms of salary,
07:24 because we are a developing country,
07:26 it is difficult for us to compare with other developed countries.
07:28 If we want to attract Malaysians back,
07:30 I think more importantly,
07:32 we hope to use their patriotic spirit.
07:35 From that perspective,
07:37 the chances of them returning are higher.
07:39 Zhang Jinwei pointed out that
07:42 in order to attract talent to return,
07:44 the government did not work hard.
07:46 They also launched a special return plan,
07:48 the Returning Expert Programme,
07:50 which aims to reduce the tax on foreign talent.
07:52 It helps them to connect with companies
07:54 and attract foreign Malaysians to return.
07:56 But for foreign talent,
07:58 these measures may not be enough.
08:00 Lin Fuyan also believes that
08:02 in order to attract overseas talent to return,
08:04 our country must transform
08:06 in politics, society and economy.
08:08 But he emphasized that
08:10 our country must overcome reforms
08:12 and not achieve them in a day.
08:14 It is like a sick person
08:16 who cannot be fully recovered in one move.
08:18 Whether it is enough or not
08:20 is a matter of wider consideration.
08:22 For a foreign talent to return,
08:24 he has to consider not only
08:26 his wealth and career,
08:28 but also how he can
08:30 adapt to a new life.
08:32 From a life perspective,
08:34 he has to consider social factors.
08:36 He often compares
08:38 the current social environment
08:40 in Malaysia to that in other countries.
08:42 For example,
08:44 in Malaysian society,
08:46 whether the current situation
08:48 or racism is serious
08:50 or whether there is corruption,
08:52 these are all considered.
08:54 So if we want to do this well,
08:56 it is actually related
08:58 to the overall transformation of the country.
09:00 Because we need to
09:02 improve our politics, economy and society.
09:04 It is not something
09:06 that can be done in a short time.
09:08 I believe that the current government
09:10 has seen that it has been making
09:12 many different reforms.
09:14 One of the things we need to know
09:16 is that when foreign investors
09:18 come to our country,
09:20 not only will money come in,
09:22 but also talents.
09:24 So if we attract
09:26 excellent foreign talent,
09:28 including those in research projects,
09:30 they will attract talents.
09:32 When there are talents,
09:34 the environment will improve.
09:36 Because our country is not well-off,
09:38 the government cannot
09:40 make such a big change.
09:42 We need to take things slowly.
09:44 It's like someone who has too many illnesses.
09:46 He cannot tell the doctor,
09:48 "You have to do the surgery once,
09:50 and then do the surgery on your head,
09:52 heart, legs and hands."
09:54 He has to take things slowly.
09:56 We have to decide which one to do first.
09:58 Because time will change everything.
10:00 As long as we are determined
10:02 to move towards the right direction,
10:04 we will definitely achieve it one day.
10:06 But this will take at least 5 to 10 years.
10:10 As a person who has lived in Australia for many years,
10:12 Zhang Jingwei, a financial commentator,
10:14 said that the so-called "talent outflow"
10:16 refers to the outflow of some talents.
10:18 In Malaysia,
10:20 there are many elites and talents.
10:22 He believes that every country
10:24 has its strengths and weaknesses.
10:26 Malaysia has a certain advantage
10:28 in terms of entrepreneurship and business.
10:30 So he said,
10:32 while our country is undergoing economic transformation,
10:34 we can still focus on
10:36 developing our strengths,
10:38 and we can attract talents to return to their country.
10:40 This includes investment,
10:42 and it helps them promote economic development
10:44 and pave the way for more overseas talents to return to their country.
10:46 Professor Ling Fu,
10:48 a professor of economics at Peking University,
10:50 also believes that although some talents
10:52 are no longer citizens of Malaysia after immigration,
10:54 children who grew up in Malaysia
10:56 still have a certain emotional foundation for this land.
10:58 He believes that as long as the government
11:00 implements good policies,
11:02 some immigrants are still willing to
11:04 bring foreign investment into Malaysia
11:06 and return to their country.
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