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00:02 - Hello and welcome to Kent on Climate live on KMTV.
00:20 I'm Sophia Akin and in this show,
00:22 we discuss all things related to environmental issues
00:25 in the county.
00:26 How's climate change impacting Kent?
00:28 What are communities in the county doing to tackle it?
00:30 And how can you help at home?
00:32 Each week, we'll be taking a deep dive
00:34 into a new environmental issue in the county
00:36 and I'll be joined by expert guests.
00:38 But first tonight, plans for a new village
00:40 on greenbelt land near Sevenoaks
00:42 might fit a spanner in the works.
00:44 National highways say the project is based
00:46 on the assumption that upgrades will happen
00:49 on the local road network.
00:50 However, say that this may never happen.
00:52 Ped and Place would see 2,500 new homes being built
00:57 as part of Sevenoaks District Council's local plan
01:00 proposals, it needs to triple its house building by 2040.
01:03 The local democracy reporting service
01:05 has been looking into why residents
01:07 are opposing the settlement plans.
01:09 A picturesque village with a history
01:12 dating back to Roman times.
01:15 Ainsford is located in the rolling hills
01:17 of the Darent Valley.
01:19 It's surrounded by this greenbelt land
01:22 designed to protect rural communities
01:24 from London's urban sprawl.
01:27 But that is now under threat.
01:29 This golf course has been earmarked
01:30 for thousands of new homes.
01:33 - There is a massive opposition,
01:35 particularly due to the traffic and the pollution as well.
01:38 And many other factors to do with the planning
01:40 that would be needed.
01:41 But the greenbelt is something
01:42 we really want to preserve here.
01:44 And that would stop the sprawl of London from swallowing.
01:48 And that feels very important, you know,
01:50 that this is a key piece of land
01:52 that really oversees a lot of really beautiful
01:56 little villages with lots of character
01:58 and historic interests.
02:00 - Ped and Place would be turned into a community
02:02 of 2,500 new homes, a high street,
02:05 sports facilities, and a school.
02:08 The proposals are part of Sevenoaks District Council's
02:11 local plan consultation, which closed recently.
02:15 But now National Highway say the project is built
02:18 on the assumption of roadworks that may never happen.
02:21 Sparking campaigners' hopes
02:24 that the proposals will never tee off.
02:27 - I think what we saw in their response
02:29 was a bit of frustration almost,
02:30 because they were suggesting that,
02:33 kind of already told you this,
02:34 and there is no way that you're going to be able
02:36 to amend junction three.
02:38 Therefore, you're going to be looking at the junction A20,
02:41 and who knows what they might put there.
02:44 Worst case, maybe stick some traffic lights there.
02:47 That's standstill.
02:48 And therefore people would be coming off
02:51 the M25 further back,
02:53 and coming through Amesford and Farningham,
02:55 and then trying to join up through Dartford
02:57 and back to the crossing there.
02:58 So it'd be just chaos.
03:00 - The parishes of Amesford and Farringham
03:02 are already close to Brands Hatch Racecourse
03:04 and the Dartford crossing.
03:06 Locals say it doesn't take much
03:08 for the small village roads to become congested.
03:11 The local parish council even did an online survey last year.
03:14 They found that 92% of people who took part
03:19 opposed the development plans.
03:22 A Sevenoaks District Council spokesperson said,
03:24 "We are currently considering all the comments
03:26 and representations made by local people and agencies."
03:30 And they say they're working with
03:31 National and Kent Highways
03:33 to share details of our plans as they develop.
03:36 A revised local plan is expected later this summer,
03:40 and a campaign group suggests the authority
03:42 should look to brownfield sites
03:44 before developing on this greenbelt land.
03:47 Gave her Morris, this one Lee.
03:49 - Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
03:51 Well, joining me now on the sofa
03:53 is local campaigner Sue Hewitt
03:55 and Farningham Parish Councillor Kevin McGough.
03:58 McGough, have I said that right?
03:59 - McGough, that's what I said.
04:00 - McGough, sorry about that.
04:02 Well, thanks both for joining us today.
04:04 So yeah, firstly, I wanted to ask you a little bit
04:06 about these proposals.
04:09 Seems to have kind of generated
04:10 a little bit of sort of controversy
04:12 about kind of the situation.
04:13 So Sue, let's start with you.
04:14 We heard from you a little bit in the piece there,
04:16 but what's your kind of general stance on this situation?
04:20 - I'm feeling really worried, actually,
04:22 that this is going to potentially have a big impact
04:25 on our villages and losing greenbelts
04:28 in such a key area would be sort of devastating for the area.
04:32 I'm really worried about the Durranth Valley River,
04:34 for example, and the impact that it could have
04:37 and any other implications of the development.
04:40 It's such a big development and, you know,
04:43 something that really isn't welcome with the local area.
04:46 We want the greenbelt there, really.
04:48 - And Kevin, you're a parish councillor in the area.
04:51 What's kind of been the general,
04:53 I guess, the general opinion of most of the people
04:56 that you've been talking to about this situation?
04:58 - I mean, everyone understands
05:00 that Seven Oaks needs new housing.
05:02 We need to grow.
05:03 Everyone understands it's very restricted
05:05 in terms of having a lot of greenbelt land.
05:07 However, we are blessed with 15 stations.
05:10 We could be a very sustainable district
05:12 if we concentrate our development
05:13 and brownfield sites in the right place
05:16 next to existing services.
05:18 I think all of us are against building in the greenbelt,
05:20 not just for people in our villages
05:21 or in Seven Oaks District,
05:23 but everyone from the whole region, from across Kent,
05:25 love the Durranth Valley, love walking in the Durranth Valley.
05:28 It's the most beautiful part of the county,
05:30 or one of the most beautiful parts of the county,
05:31 so let's protect it together.
05:32 That's our mantra.
05:35 - And I guess the council would say
05:37 that they have to, you know, meet their targets
05:39 as part of their local plan, don't they?
05:40 So what's kind of, I guess, how can we get around this?
05:43 Because the council has plans to meet,
05:44 but the people in the area don't want it
05:47 on this greenbelt land.
05:48 So how can we get around this and come to a decision?
05:51 - Well, one of the most fundamental things
05:53 that's changed in the last few months
05:55 is the National Planning Policy Framework,
05:56 which is a national policy that's led Seven Oaks
05:58 to say they need this number of homes, has changed.
06:01 They've said strictly that the target
06:03 is no longer a mandatory target, but it's a starting point.
06:06 And in certain situations, like Seven Oaks,
06:08 where there's so much greenbelt,
06:10 that should be discussed of whether or not
06:11 they can deliver less homes
06:13 and some be built in other locations,
06:16 or whether they can build more dense housing
06:18 around Seven Oaks Station and other places like that.
06:21 But the council are continuing to progress with the plan
06:24 as they had before this change in policy,
06:26 rather than taking a breath at this point and saying,
06:28 how can we do this better for our people
06:30 with the new policy in place?
06:33 - And how's it been going sort of with the campaign so far?
06:35 We could see quite a few people kind of out and about,
06:38 and I'm sure this is kind of just a few of the people.
06:40 Yeah, what are you hoping to change with this campaign?
06:45 - We are hoping that we can change the view
06:48 on using greenbelt like this.
06:50 This is a really a standalone settlement here
06:52 would go against any climate change interests at all.
06:55 And hopefully we will preserve the villages
06:58 and the historic monuments that are nearby
07:00 in a way that isn't going to be detrimental
07:03 to everybody that lives there and enjoys the area now.
07:07 I think there is a lot more that could be done
07:09 in terms of brownfield sites.
07:10 And actually, you know, Dartford have highlighted
07:13 on their survey response that, you know,
07:16 Sevenoaks could have investigated
07:18 and perhaps have investigated a bit passively.
07:20 And it would be interesting to see
07:23 how we could make a difference by, you know,
07:25 campaigning against this greenbelt being used.
07:28 It would be very good.
07:29 - And you mentioned about the Darent Valley.
07:31 What's the kind of ecology like in that sort of area
07:34 for someone who perhaps doesn't know that area too well?
07:36 What's the ecology like in that area?
07:38 - Wow, it's a greenbelt.
07:40 It's part of the Kent Downs National Landscape.
07:43 We've got a site of scientific interest.
07:45 We've got a national heritage monuments on the site.
07:49 It's a chalk landscape.
07:51 So it's a chalk down landscape, which is very rare.
07:54 The River Darent is a chalk stream,
07:56 which again is very rare.
07:57 We have huge numbers of badgers nesting.
08:01 We have migrating birds.
08:02 Skylarks are just arriving at the minute.
08:04 Kingfishers in my garden today.
08:06 It's rich and anyone who from the region,
08:09 from London who comes to visit just is amazed
08:13 at how fantastic the Darent Valley is.
08:15 The proposal on this site is at the highest point
08:18 of the Kent Downs.
08:20 Anyone knows the junction of the M3 to the M20,
08:23 M25 junction three.
08:25 It's the high point.
08:26 They're proposing two and a half thousand homes
08:28 at the highest point of the Darent Valley
08:30 and a 28,000 seat stadium.
08:33 It would be a horrific blot on the landscape.
08:35 It would take a bite out of the green belt
08:37 and one of the most important places to protect it.
08:40 It's really environmental vandalism, really.
08:43 - And what would you say to those,
08:44 there's got to be some people within this campaign
08:46 that would accuse you of a bit of NIMBYism,
08:49 sort of saying not in my backyard.
08:50 I guess, what would you kind of respond to that?
08:53 - I don't agree I'm a NIMBY at all.
08:55 I think, you know, I'm all for housing
08:57 and I do believe there is a shortage of affordable housing.
09:00 I don't think that the affordable housing
09:02 would be achievable on this site.
09:04 I certainly am campaigning for the green belt to be saved.
09:07 I'm not a NIMBY.
09:08 I think this is an outrageous idea
09:11 and it really is just too big to cope with that area
09:14 and there's nothing sustainable about it at all.
09:15 If we are going to free up green belt,
09:17 setting a precedent like this in legal terms
09:20 really worries me, how they could then destroy quite a lot.
09:23 And one of the main purposes this plot does,
09:26 sitting outside the M25, is stop the sprawl.
09:29 And it's just key in that.
09:31 If we start saying that that's okay,
09:33 then, you know, there's no protection of the green belt
09:36 that will be released.
09:37 And that's really worrying.
09:39 - Yeah, and I guess as well,
09:43 the problem people often raise with these situations
09:46 where they're having a huge kind of number of houses
09:49 built in that area is whether their facilities can cope,
09:51 their GP surgeries, their schools.
09:53 Do you think that the facilities in the area could cope
09:56 with this volume of homes potentially being built here?
09:59 - Yeah, I mean, Penrhyn Place doesn't quite know what it is.
10:01 So the council are portraying it
10:02 as a new standalone settlement.
10:04 It's not big enough to be a standalone settlement.
10:06 It's so close to Farnagar, Mainsford and Swanley,
10:08 it effectively creates one big urban sprawl.
10:11 So it's not distinct, nor would it be big enough
10:13 for 2,500 homes to be distinct.
10:15 So it will have to have its own facilities.
10:17 And obviously that's really environmentally unsustainable.
10:20 You're much better to locate new development
10:23 in existing facilities, existing roads,
10:25 existing rail infrastructure.
10:27 From the responses to the consultation,
10:30 Kent County Council, the Highways Agency,
10:33 Environment England are saying,
10:34 "You know, you haven't thought this through.
10:35 "You don't build a new settlement
10:38 "at the most accessible point by car
10:40 "because people are going to drive
10:41 "rather than go by public transport."
10:43 This is almost, if you looked across the district
10:45 at the most unsustainable location
10:47 to build a new settlement, this would be it.
10:49 - We don't have long left, but Innerline,
10:51 what's next for your campaign in Innerline?
10:54 We really don't have much time.
10:55 What's next?
10:56 - To focus on how to best get this message out there,
10:59 really, for everybody to hear.
11:01 This is our main aim at the moment,
11:03 just to let people know what the problems are
11:05 and get that out there.
11:07 - We say protect our green belt,
11:08 but let's protect your green belt
11:10 because this is just one bit of green belt
11:11 that Sevenoaks are trying to take away from people.
11:13 Everyone who loves the environment in Kent
11:16 and from London News in Kent,
11:17 come together and protect it together.
11:20 - Well, of course, got to say as well,
11:21 the Sevenoaks District Council
11:22 aren't here to defend themselves,
11:24 but in Gabriel's report there,
11:25 we heard from the council too.
11:27 But thank you to both of you for joining us today
11:30 to discuss this a bit further.
11:32 Really appreciate your time.
11:33 And I'm sure we'll kind of keep up to date
11:35 with how this progresses as well.
11:37 Thank you very much.
11:38 - Thank you.
11:39 - Time for a quick break now,
11:44 but coming up, we've got much more climate news coming up.
11:47 We'll be joined by another guest as well,
11:49 straight after the break,
11:51 looking at different species of Kent wildlife as well.
11:54 See you in a few minutes.
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15:05 - Hello and welcome back to Kenton Climate Live on KMTV.
15:12 Now a landslip on the train line near Newington
15:15 means no trains will run between Gillingham
15:17 and Sittingbourne for the next week.
15:19 Rail replacement will run until the 4th of March
15:22 while Network Rail make repairs
15:23 and puts in place equipment to monitor
15:26 for future landslips.
15:27 Network Rail say that the landslip
15:29 was a result of heavy rainfall
15:30 resulting from climate change,
15:32 while commuters are worried about it
15:34 taking longer to get to work.
15:35 Oliver Leader de Sacks reports.
15:38 - One landslip, a week of travel chaos.
15:41 Last Friday, Network Rail discovered
15:44 a 40 meter long crack near Newington
15:47 after material slipped away from the rail embankment
15:50 resulting in both lines in the area
15:52 being closed for safety reasons.
15:55 With repairs taking place this week
15:57 with plans to install noise and vibration sensors,
16:00 the line between Sittingbourne and Gillingham
16:02 is facing serious disruption.
16:05 As you can see over my shoulder,
16:06 lots of buses, lots of rail replacement
16:09 here at Gillingham station.
16:12 But just because there's rail replacement
16:14 doesn't mean there isn't disruption
16:16 with commuters I've spoken to being frustrated
16:19 at the longer journeys.
16:21 - It is a nightmare.
16:23 I have to leave out of it because of it.
16:25 Yeah, because I have to re-correct at least two.
16:28 And I leave one.
16:31 Might not have to leave 12.
16:33 - Yeah, well, my friend was coming from London
16:37 and obviously on Friday there was this landslip
16:39 and we checked the trains to get her home back to London.
16:43 And so we live in Faversham
16:45 and we had to come from Faversham here
16:48 'cause so she could get the train.
16:49 - I mean, I get the train every single day.
16:50 I work weekends as well.
16:52 So it can be a hassle,
16:54 but for the most part it just adds time to the journeys.
16:57 And I mean, I've only missed one train because of it overall.
17:01 - Network Rail says there's a clear culprit for the delays.
17:05 - Let's just look at the reason for this.
17:07 The reason for this is actually climate change.
17:09 We've just had the wettest February since I believe 1766.
17:13 It was reported over the weekend.
17:15 So we've had so much rainfall
17:18 and that has had an impact on the railway infrastructure
17:21 and not just in Kent, but across the country.
17:24 And that's why we do need to make these urgent repairs.
17:29 - With train services aiming to resume next Monday,
17:32 Medway commuters will have a week to wait for normality.
17:36 But with extreme weather on track to get worse,
17:39 train disruption will be something that Kent commuters
17:43 will have to get used to railing against.
17:45 Oliver Leeders of SAC reporting for KMTV.
17:48 - And now with spring on the horizon,
17:51 you may be wondering how to get into the habits of herbs,
17:53 plants and everything in between
17:55 without hurting the planet.
17:57 Well, Faversham based garden centre
17:58 and nursery edible culture are trying to help people
18:01 do just that, focusing on being as eco-friendly
18:04 and plastic free as possible.
18:05 Joining me from edible culture is Chris Williams.
18:08 Thanks so much for joining us.
18:09 So first of all, there'll be people at home wondering
18:11 what edible culture is.
18:13 And I was just asking you as well.
18:14 So can you just briefly explain what that is first of all?
18:17 - Okay, so edible culture is a horticultural business
18:20 like any other, but we specialise in edible growing.
18:23 So fruits, vegetables, herbs,
18:25 but one of the big things that we are very well known for,
18:28 in fact, we pride ourself on is how sustainable we are
18:31 as a business.
18:32 And so, we do horticulture well, we grow plants well,
18:36 but we have a low impact on the planet as well.
18:39 - And why is that so important,
18:41 kind of having that lower impact
18:42 and being so eco-friendly in that way?
18:44 - I think we're all aware that there's quite a severe
18:47 climate crisis.
18:48 And I think as gardeners and as growers of plants,
18:51 I think we're at the forefront of seeing the effects
18:54 of climate change, but I think we also have a way
18:56 of actually helping to tackle climate change
18:58 and also biodiversity loss as well.
19:01 So I think I owe it to the planet
19:05 to grow things sustainably and make sure
19:07 that what we sell is responsible
19:09 and hopefully inspire gardeners at home
19:12 to do things more responsibly as well.
19:14 - And what are some of these plants
19:16 that you've brought with you today?
19:18 Just explain these a little bit more,
19:19 making the studio smell very lovely.
19:21 - Yeah, so there is some plants here that aren't edible,
19:24 so we'll admit.
19:25 - We won't try them then.
19:26 - But it's just that this summer year,
19:27 some things don't always look so good.
19:29 But I mean, this is a rhubarb,
19:31 so that is definitely edible,
19:32 but there's some daffodils and crocus.
19:34 These are the native ones, so they're more sustainable.
19:37 One's good for wildlife.
19:38 So yeah, we do diversify slightly
19:41 because obviously at bleak times of the year,
19:43 you need some colour in the garden.
19:44 - Oh, absolutely, yeah.
19:45 Spring, it's always a lovely time of year
19:47 'cause it's when all the flowers start to bloom.
19:50 It's always such a lovely time, isn't it?
19:51 So being environmentally conscious,
19:54 it must kind of come with some challenges.
19:56 So do you find that sort of difficult
19:58 balancing those responsibilities?
20:00 - It can be, yeah.
20:01 I think there's a balance between us physically
20:04 doing something to make a change,
20:06 but also getting that across to our customers
20:08 and the wider community.
20:10 Some things probably wouldn't look viable,
20:13 potentially make a lot of business sense,
20:16 but we feel, as I feel passionately about,
20:19 it's the right thing to do.
20:20 So there's things that we've done and implemented
20:23 that kind of create another sort of process to what we do,
20:27 which probably for most businesses
20:29 would find that really difficult
20:31 because it costs money, it's labour intensive.
20:34 But what that does do is it does allow us
20:36 to provide a product that we know is as sustainable
20:39 as we can do that,
20:40 because there's a lot of things within horticulture
20:43 that is quite damaging to the environment,
20:47 plastics, chemicals, you know, peat extraction.
20:50 And there are lots of things you can do
20:51 to remove those out of the process.
20:54 And that's what we're trying to do.
20:56 - Is it kind of about educating yourself?
20:58 'Cause some people may not know
20:59 about those different things.
21:01 I mean, I'm sure we all know about plastic,
21:02 the damage of plastic,
21:03 but maybe some parts of horticulture
21:05 that people don't really know is damaging.
21:07 So do you think there's enough kind of education around it
21:09 or do you just need to do your own research?
21:11 - I think it's becoming more apparent.
21:14 I think people are finding out a lot more through,
21:17 there's, you know, there's organisations,
21:19 well-known organisations, there's TV programmes
21:21 that make, are putting it more at the forefront.
21:24 I think there are less obvious things.
21:26 I think people see buying a bag of compost
21:29 and putting it on a plant,
21:30 thinking that that is really positive,
21:31 but not necessarily knowing the ingredients
21:33 and where that compost may have come from,
21:35 where that plant might've been grown,
21:37 what's been added to that plant.
21:39 There's probably not so much transparencies
21:42 there should be in the industry, which is a problem.
21:46 But I think that's probably a broader thing
21:48 with across a lot of different industries as well anyway.
21:50 So, but yeah, I think it is becoming much more
21:54 to the forefront of people's minds
21:57 than it perhaps used to be.
21:59 - And you've brought this with you as well.
22:01 Could you explain what this is?
22:03 - Yeah, so this is just an example
22:05 of an alternative product.
22:06 So this is a sheep's wool
22:09 that is basically made into a mat
22:12 that you can use to line hanging baskets.
22:14 You can use to put round pots as a mulch
22:17 and round trees as well.
22:19 So it's just an example of something
22:21 that we've found working with a company
22:24 that actually creates something out of a waste product
22:28 that's natural, it will biodegrade,
22:31 rather than using plastics or other synthetic materials,
22:34 which obviously just ends up shredding into the soil
22:37 and damaging the environment.
22:38 So, I mean, that's an example of something
22:41 that perhaps is a challenge because it is more expensive
22:44 and it's not widely available,
22:45 but you kind of need to get the ball rolling
22:48 in order for these things to become more mainstream.
22:50 So yeah, that's an example of what we do,
22:53 one of the things we do.
22:54 - And I'll just ask you as well,
22:55 what advice would you give
22:56 for those who are looking to start growing things,
22:58 perhaps being a bit more sustainable
23:00 and mindful about being environmentally friendly?
23:03 - I think it's,
23:04 it's, as you mentioned earlier,
23:07 about being a bit, doing a bit of research,
23:09 is having, is asking the questions
23:11 and researching what you're buying.
23:14 So if you're going into a nursery or garden centre,
23:16 you know, ask those questions, you know,
23:18 what is this compost, has it got peat in it?
23:21 Are these plants organic?
23:22 You know, what can I eat, what can I not eat?
23:26 And what would be best for growing
23:28 in these different situations,
23:29 particularly with, you know, summer,
23:31 potentially summer droughts and cold weather, et cetera.
23:34 So I think it's asking questions
23:36 and doing a bit of research does make a lot of difference.
23:39 - Great, Chris, thank you so much for joining us.
23:40 Really interesting for bringing some of your plants
23:42 in as well, thank you.
23:44 And on the topic of growing plants here in Kent,
23:46 this time last year, our reporter, Abbey Hook,
23:48 was taking a look into floristry in the county.
23:51 As always, you can find more climate stories like this
23:54 at our website, kmtv.co.uk.
23:57 While working as a journalist,
24:02 Jennifer Stewart-Smith dug deeper into floristry.
24:06 She says she found too many flowers were being imported
24:09 from across the world and sold in supermarkets.
24:12 In fact, imported flowers produced 19 times
24:15 more carbon emissions than those produced locally.
24:18 So sustainability became the bedrock of her business.
24:23 - I'd say 99.9% of the flowers we use are grown by us.
24:27 And then occasionally at this time of year,
24:29 we might get a few Cornish flowers
24:31 from a lovely flower grower in Cornwall.
24:32 He's also a third generation grower.
24:35 Growing them ourselves,
24:36 we know that they're grown without chemicals.
24:38 We've put the care and attention into growing them
24:40 so we know how it's been done.
24:42 - Jen even showed me how they keep their crops
24:45 chemical free.
24:46 - So although it's not very pretty at this time of year,
24:49 this mypex basically suppresses the weeds.
24:52 So we use it instead of weed killer.
24:54 We don't use any chemicals or pesticides on the plot.
24:57 So we suppress the weeds with this.
24:58 And then in the spring or when we want to plant into it,
25:01 we'll just whip the plastic off
25:02 and we will reuse it year after year.
25:05 - So seeing as the sun's come out for us,
25:07 we thought we'd come out to the patch
25:09 and pick some of the foliage
25:10 that's used in some of the bouquets.
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25:15 - With plants picked, we headed to the drying room
25:18 to see another side to the business.
25:21 - We love to dry any flowers
25:24 that we haven't used as fresh flowers.
25:26 So we have a drying room here.
25:28 And so we're offering a dried flower bouquet
25:31 for Valentine's day.
25:32 So they're local flowers, they're chemical free.
25:35 And without being too doom and gloom,
25:38 the general Valentine's offering tend to be red roses
25:41 that come in from places like Columbia, Central America.
25:45 They are covered in chemicals
25:47 and wrapped in lots and lots of plastic.
25:49 And by the time you receive them,
25:50 they're probably two or three weeks old.
25:52 Just extends our season a little bit.
25:54 So we offer some dried flower workshops as well
25:57 in the sort of autumn and spring months
26:00 when we don't have a lot of flowers.
26:02 - So now that we've seen the bouquets in the drying room
26:05 and how great they look,
26:06 I'm going to attempt to put one together myself.
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26:14 Each bouquet will last all year round,
26:20 making it more cost effective and kind to the climate.
26:24 Abbey Hook for KMTV.
26:26 That's all we've got time for
26:28 on this week's episode of Kent on Climate.
26:31 We'll be back next week with another episode
26:33 discussing more matters relevant
26:34 to environmental issues in Kent.
26:36 In the meantime, please do check out
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26:45 I'll see you at the same time next week,
26:47 but goodbye for now.
26:49 Thank you.
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