Graham and Dave discuss their favourite Oscar winners and
give us their views and reviews on the films they've seen this week
All of Us Strangers
Mean Girls
The Zone of Interest
The Holdovers
give us their views and reviews on the films they've seen this week
All of Us Strangers
Mean Girls
The Zone of Interest
The Holdovers
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00:00 (upbeat music)
00:02 - Hello and welcome back to
00:09 Not Everyone's a Film Critic,
00:11 a podcast where I can't be bothered to get dressed
00:13 and wear actual clothes.
00:14 I'm wearing an hoodie and I'm joined by my colleague
00:17 and potential friend, Dave.
00:19 How are you doing?
00:20 You all right?
00:21 - I'm doing very well.
00:22 I've actually got slippers on,
00:22 so I'm also letting the side down a wee bit.
00:25 - I didn't even do my hair for this week.
00:26 It's getting ridiculous.
00:27 Like-
00:28 - Your hair looks lovely.
00:29 Don't worry.
00:29 I'll be more with it.
00:30 (laughing)
00:33 - We'll come back to that.
00:34 (laughing)
00:35 So yeah, as you can see,
00:36 we will still be putting in the effort.
00:38 I just won't look like I have,
00:40 but I definitely will.
00:41 It's kind of within my nature.
00:42 Talk about films and filmy things.
00:45 The one thing I haven't put the effort into this week,
00:48 Dave, is the virtual surprise.
00:49 Nobody is actually going to see films.
00:51 - It's remarkable.
00:52 I don't know how you've avoided the cinema this week.
00:54 This has been, I think,
00:55 this is the best week at the cinema,
00:57 certainly since Barbie and Oppenheimer came out.
00:59 And I would argue that there's more good films
01:02 in the cinema right now
01:03 than there has been at any time
01:04 since the beginning of the pandemic.
01:06 I think it's that good for movies this week.
01:08 So shame on you for not going to cinema,
01:10 but yay, you've got lots of good stuff
01:11 to go and see next week.
01:12 - Yes.
01:15 If I-
01:17 - Can I convince you?
01:18 Can I convince you?
01:19 - I mean, it's not really your job.
01:22 It's cinema world and audience view and all that.
01:25 And the thing is, I've got really lazy.
01:27 Like I like films,
01:29 but I've got into like playing computer games again.
01:31 And I feel like a bit of an idiot
01:33 'cause now we might need to do a computer games podcast.
01:36 - We should be very boring,
01:37 so I only play Mario Kart and Pokemon.
01:39 - Strangers should mention that.
01:42 Now, films, that's what we're here for, films.
01:45 Okay, what have you seen, Dave?
01:47 - Well, can I just, for anyone out there,
01:49 firstly, all of us strangers,
01:51 which I've talked about a couple of times before.
01:53 I saw it quite a while ago
01:55 as part of the London Film Festival,
01:56 and it's just brilliant, so go and see it.
01:57 It will make you cry a lot.
01:59 I don't think I've talked to a single person
02:01 who's not wept a lot during the film,
02:03 and it's a really beautiful film.
02:04 So just a recommendation, all of us strangers,
02:07 which came out last week and is out now.
02:09 A couple of films, very different films.
02:12 We'll talk about the Iron Claw next week
02:14 'cause that doesn't get a release until the end next week.
02:16 I saw an advanced screening.
02:17 It's a really interesting film.
02:18 I think you'll enjoy it, Graham.
02:19 You'd be like a wrestling guy back in the day, were you?
02:22 I would expect that.
02:23 You would've been a wrestling guy back in the day.
02:25 - Absolutely not in any way, shape, or form.
02:27 - Really?
02:28 - I've never wrestled. - I've never wrestled yet.
02:29 - But I like, I've noticed I like any sort of sport,
02:33 if it's documented well or made, like, dramatized.
02:36 Like, I can get behind, like, the story of wrestlers.
02:40 - Yeah, well, I think you'll get something out of it.
02:42 I mean, it is a good film.
02:43 We will talk about it more.
02:44 I don't really want to spoil it for you
02:45 'cause it's a film that I went into knowing nothing,
02:47 and I think it benefits from that.
02:48 So we'll talk about that next week.
02:50 But-- - It's a good film, yeah.
02:51 It's just as good as wrestling.
02:52 I'm not gonna spoil it.
02:53 But a couple of very different films,
02:56 one funny, one less so.
02:57 One which I cannot believe you've not seen yet
02:59 is the remake of "Mean Girls,"
03:01 which is one of your favorite films of all time, isn't it?
03:03 Is it just that you don't fancy it being remade?
03:05 You just don't see the need for it, maybe?
03:08 - Well, I mean, I was told that it's not that different.
03:11 - It's funny 'cause it is and it isn't.
03:13 I mean, I think "Mean Girls,"
03:15 I can't believe it's 20 years old, for a start.
03:17 20 years old since "Mean Girls" was out.
03:19 I think it's an interesting one
03:20 'cause I think it is different enough
03:21 that it is its own film.
03:23 But it keeps all the bits about "Mean Girls,"
03:25 which you love, like it's got a lot of nods
03:27 to the characters.
03:29 And that film has got a couple of the same characters.
03:32 Tina Fey and Tim Meadows are back
03:34 as the teacher and the headmaster, respectively.
03:36 And actually, the casting's really clever.
03:38 Rennie Ratt plays Regina George,
03:41 which obviously Rachel McAdams in the old film.
03:43 She's really well cast.
03:44 She's fantastic.
03:45 She looks the part.
03:46 She's a great singer.
03:47 And it is a musical, which is obviously
03:48 the main kind of difference
03:49 between the old one and the new one.
03:51 It is a proper musical.
03:52 It was a stage show before.
03:54 It's got lovely songs.
03:55 It all works really well.
03:56 Anguri Rice plays Katie.
03:58 She's just perfect in the role, really, really good.
04:00 And your favorite, Damien, is played by a guy
04:04 called Jekyll Spivey, who I'd never really heard of before.
04:08 And he's absolutely brilliant in the role.
04:09 Just works really, really well.
04:10 So the casting's great, great songs, and it just works.
04:13 It's just fun, you know?
04:14 It's a bit of fluff.
04:15 It isn't as good as the original,
04:16 but I don't think anyone thought
04:18 it was gonna be as good as the original.
04:19 But it's just a really good, fun time at the cinema.
04:22 It's only an hour and 30 minutes long,
04:24 and it's just a giggle.
04:26 It's a good family film.
04:27 I can't believe that anyone would go and see it
04:28 and not enjoy it.
04:29 It's just one of those films.
04:30 It is a crowd pleaser.
04:32 - Is there anything in the world better than "Mean Girls"?
04:36 - Well, it's funny, because I remember
04:39 when it first came out,
04:40 I didn't really think that much of it.
04:42 I thought it was just a kind of disposable
04:45 school, high school teen film.
04:48 But no, you're absolutely right.
04:49 It is an absolutely fantastic film.
04:50 But I don't think many people thought
04:52 it was gonna be such a iconic film
04:55 when it first came out.
04:56 And it's aged really well.
04:57 And watching it again, it just hasn't aged a second.
05:01 It's just one of these timeless, timeless,
05:03 wonderful, funny films,
05:04 where they got the casting right,
05:06 the stories right, everything just seemed
05:08 to be right with it.
05:09 And it just made me want to watch the original again.
05:11 But I think that it works.
05:12 I don't think it ruins the original.
05:13 I think it adds a little bit to it,
05:15 mainly 'cause it's a musical.
05:17 Make a musical of something.
05:19 Pop some songs in and it's fun, you know?
05:20 So it's just a fun film, a fun film.
05:23 - I'm not a musical person.
05:24 You see, for me, if it's, like, I like Wonka.
05:27 I like La La Land, which means it's a good musical.
05:29 I like Bloody Horror, which means a good musical.
05:31 In general, if someone goes,
05:33 "Ooh, this is gonna burst into song in a minute,"
05:35 like, my head goes, "What's the point?"
05:38 - I do agree with you.
05:39 But in Mean Girls, I think it works
05:41 because it isn't one of these things
05:43 where there's singing dialogue, if you know what I mean.
05:45 That's sometimes quite hard to get to grips with.
05:47 But all the songs kind of work
05:48 'cause they are kind of performers anyway
05:51 within the school context.
05:52 And I don't know, it just works really well.
05:54 And they've updated, you know,
05:55 they're doing TikTok and stuff like that.
05:58 So it's quite modern.
05:58 It's brought it up to date.
05:59 I know we don't like TikTok 'cause we're old men.
06:01 - No, I don't mind TikTok,
06:03 but I don't need it in Mean Girls.
06:04 It adds nothing.
06:06 - Fair enough.
06:07 I don't think that's gonna convince you.
06:08 And I think that's fair enough.
06:09 I think you should just watch the old film again.
06:10 But it's a bit of a giggle,
06:12 unlike The Zone of Interest, which is-
06:16 - Before we go into it, before we leave completely,
06:18 what's your favorite line in Mean Girls original?
06:22 - Oh, I don't even know.
06:23 That's dreadful, isn't it?
06:25 - You should know.
06:25 There's lots of quotable lines.
06:27 - He doesn't even go here, probably.
06:29 She doesn't even go here.
06:30 - She doesn't even go here.
06:31 It's followed by potentially,
06:33 nice haircut, Janet.
06:38 - Yes.
06:39 - Who cut it or something like that.
06:41 And it's your mom's chest hair.
06:43 Very good.
06:44 - It is very quotable.
06:45 It's a very quotable film.
06:46 - And also on 3rd of October,
06:48 he asked me what day it was.
06:49 It's October 3rd.
06:50 - See when you will watch this film,
06:55 I guarantee you is if you're on a plane
06:57 and it's on the entertainment system,
06:59 I bet you watch it when you're on a plane
07:00 and I bet you enjoy it then.
07:02 'Cause it's that sort of film that if it's there,
07:03 you go, "Oh, I'll give it a shot."
07:04 And you'll just enjoy it
07:05 'cause it's just a bit of disposable pap,
07:07 but good fun for it.
07:08 So Zone of Interest,
07:10 which I presume you are gonna go and see?
07:13 - Yeah, but I've heard people are really getting affected
07:16 by it and don't get me wrong,
07:17 I'm not saying films shouldn't be moving
07:19 and obviously the subject matter is not exactly
07:22 something that you can't be moved by as far as I'm aware,
07:25 but I like going to cinema to have a good time.
07:28 So if I'm going to see something
07:30 that might affect me emotionally,
07:32 I have to literally be in the right headspace.
07:35 - Yeah, and I think--
07:36 - Spoiler alert here, Dave,
07:38 I don't know if I'm in the right headspace this month.
07:40 If the Udi didn't give it away
07:42 and the blonde hair didn't give it away in "Midlife Crisis,"
07:44 I don't know what did.
07:46 - Well, I would say that you might have an issue
07:48 with Zone of Interest.
07:49 And for those who don't know,
07:50 it's by the English director, Jonathan Glazer,
07:54 who incredibly has only made four films in 25 years.
07:57 He made "The Magnificent Sexy Beast,"
07:59 "Birth," which is a kind of unusual film,
08:02 but looking back, it's kind of aged quite well.
08:04 - How would I not know that?
08:05 'Cause that's about me, isn't it?
08:06 - It is, it is very much so.
08:09 And then "Under the Skin," which we talked about before,
08:11 that we both love.
08:12 So he's one of these directors who only does things
08:14 that are passion projects.
08:15 He's in no rush to make a new movie.
08:17 He's not really interested in money, by all accounts.
08:20 And this film, "Zone of Interest,"
08:21 has taken him 10 years to make.
08:22 And it's obviously-- - That's why!
08:24 (laughing)
08:25 - And it is obviously something
08:26 which is a passion project for him.
08:27 It's kind of based on the Martin Amis novel of the same name,
08:30 but it only takes the idea,
08:33 the kernel of an idea from that book,
08:35 and then goes completely on its own way with it,
08:37 a bit like "Under the Skin" as well.
08:40 Michel Faber's book is very different from the film.
08:42 So it's about Rudolf Hess, who is a chap
08:45 who was the commandant of Auschwitz,
08:46 a very, very evil man.
08:49 And it's about him and his wife and his five kids.
08:51 And they live in this beautiful house
08:53 with a gorgeous garden, lovely countryside,
08:56 rivers and lakes and streams.
08:59 And their kids live this fantastic existence
09:01 where they want for nothing.
09:03 The only thing is that the garden wall backs onto Auschwitz.
09:07 So they are feet away from where hundreds
09:10 of thousands of people were murdered.
09:13 And it's the cliched thing that everyone's saying about it.
09:16 It is the banality of evil.
09:18 So it's him and his wife.
09:19 His wife's this kind of Lady Macbeth figure
09:22 who's very ambitious and loves her house,
09:24 loves her material possessions,
09:26 and essentially blocks out the screams
09:29 and the gunfire from feet away,
09:31 as well as the ash clouds,
09:33 which basically, coming through the window,
09:35 ruin the washing, which is hung up.
09:38 And just these horrible indicators of what is happening.
09:40 They know what's happening.
09:41 They block it out.
09:42 They've got cognitive dissonance there.
09:44 And it's a remarkable film.
09:46 It's got very little in the way of the plot, really.
09:49 Hess is called to Berlin to work on the final solution
09:53 and essentially make it more efficient
09:54 to kill more Jewish people,
09:56 which he does with great success.
09:59 A lot of it is filmed from funny angles.
10:03 So it almost looks like a reality TV program
10:05 in that you're seeing them do their day-to-day life.
10:08 And it's just normal stuff, a lot of it,
10:09 but then you see something, you hear something.
10:11 What you see and what you hear is very different.
10:13 So you're watching this normal family existence
10:16 while you're hearing what is going on inside the camp.
10:20 You never see inside the camp,
10:21 apart from one very clever section at the end,
10:23 which I will not spoil,
10:24 but you hear this thing
10:26 and you see this completely different thing.
10:28 And then there's little hints throughout it
10:30 about what's happening.
10:32 They get given clothes, where are the clothes coming from?
10:34 They're coming from the camp.
10:35 They get given jewelry.
10:37 They get special treatment about,
10:39 which comes from the murder of innocents.
10:41 And I mean, to say it's a tough watch
10:44 is a massive understatement.
10:46 It made me feel genuinely sick.
10:48 And I didn't cry because it's too much to cry.
10:52 It's one of these films where
10:53 it's just too emotionally devastating to cry.
10:57 You just feel gutted by it.
10:58 And just to see how these people acted.
11:02 And I don't necessarily believe in evil,
11:04 but it's quite hard to argue anything other
11:07 than these people were true evil.
11:09 And you see all the people, not just the family,
11:12 their friends, you know,
11:13 her mother comes to stay and she's the one character
11:16 who seems to be unable to cope with what's happening
11:19 around her daughter's house.
11:21 And that's one brief little moment
11:23 where you think maybe they can see what's going on.
11:26 Maybe there are people who wouldn't turn a blind eye to it.
11:29 But even she just reacts by leaving.
11:31 She doesn't actually do anything about it.
11:33 So it's a very important film.
11:35 There's no doubt about that.
11:37 You're absolutely right, Graham.
11:38 I'm not sure.
11:39 It certainly isn't entertaining,
11:41 but it is beautifully made.
11:43 I think Jonathan Glaser should win best director
11:45 of the Oscar by a country mile.
11:46 I don't think he should necessarily win best film,
11:48 but I think he should win best director
11:50 'cause it's the most impressive film directorially
11:53 that I can think of.
11:54 He took 10 years to do it.
11:55 He actually recreated the house next Auschwitz.
11:58 He got the permission of the Auschwitz Trust,
12:02 the people who run Auschwitz
12:03 and basically keep it for posterity.
12:05 And as a warning to future generations,
12:07 he actually built it outside there.
12:09 So he's worked with them.
12:10 So there's nothing in it which feels
12:12 like he's taking advantage of the story or anything.
12:15 It genuinely feels like he wants to communicate something
12:18 which is a warning to us.
12:19 And what's going on in the world right now,
12:21 it seems like a very timely film as well
12:23 'cause it shows how these things can happen
12:24 and how seemingly normal people can do horrific things.
12:29 - Without, weirdly enough actually,
12:31 that maybe would convince me to see it
12:34 because I don't know if you've been,
12:37 I imagine you have,
12:38 and obviously this is not a history podcast,
12:42 but whilst on the subject of the film,
12:43 I have been to Auschwitz
12:45 with the worst flu I've ever had in my life.
12:49 Like I had this really bad flu,
12:50 but we booked to go, me and my brother at the time.
12:52 And then obviously they show you where Hess lived
12:55 and stuff like that.
12:56 And I remember specifically,
12:58 it was the granddaughter of someone
13:03 who unfortunately was murdered at Auschwitz.
13:06 And she was shown the close proximity between his home
13:09 and like the things, like the horror that we'd seen.
13:12 And obviously they still show you around,
13:14 how do I put this right?
13:17 The possessions that were kept.
13:21 And you see that and you kind of like take them back.
13:24 I mean, you can't even describe that, I suppose,
13:26 because it feels almost unreal in many ways,
13:29 because you can't imagine anyone doing that.
13:31 And then you see the close proximity
13:32 with like Rudolf Hess's houses.
13:36 So actually, I wouldn't say I'm interested
13:40 'cause that's not the right word,
13:41 but I have been there, I have seen it.
13:43 I do know the close proximity.
13:44 And I suppose the idea of him just living there
13:47 with his family and being a big evil tyrant
13:50 before going home for his Yorkshire puddings or whatever,
13:53 is kind of a weird case study in its own way.
13:57 And as you say, probably a huge warning to people,
13:59 especially without going too political on a film show
14:02 of exactly what can happen
14:04 if you don't keep your eye on the ball.
14:06 And I thought "Under the Skin" was amazing.
14:09 Obviously completely different.
14:11 Although you could say quite similar in the sense
14:13 that it's alien versus human,
14:15 depending on how you wanna describe the likes of-
14:17 - Yeah, very much so.
14:19 - But that was an amazing film.
14:20 And filmed in Glasgow, if anyone hasn't seen it.
14:23 - It was, yeah, absolutely.
14:24 - Scarlett Johansson just hanging about
14:25 at the Becoming Galleries.
14:27 Oh, and I wasn't there to say hi, damn.
14:29 - No, he is like an absolute phenomenal director.
14:32 And he always does kind of different things.
14:34 He never makes normal films.
14:35 His films are always interesting.
14:37 And he spends, I mean, 10 years to make a film.
14:39 I don't know how anyone can do that.
14:40 I would be, I don't know, I would just be going mad,
14:43 I think, taking 10 years to make a film.
14:45 - I'm lying to you.
14:46 I have seen stuff at the film, the cinema.
14:48 I have, I'm talking absolute rubbish.
14:50 I can't believe you've lied to me already.
14:51 - I know, we just did,
14:53 it's because we did the show earlier last week
14:55 because of the Oscars,
14:56 which is what we're gonna speak about today.
14:57 We're gonna speak about our best Oscar film ever
15:00 of all time that was won, and also actor and actress.
15:05 But I did see "The Holdovers".
15:08 - Ah, yes, which is a great film, isn't it?
15:10 I bet you enjoyed that.
15:11 - Just nice, yeah.
15:12 I think I went to the VIP screening with Ashley
15:16 and our mutual best friend, Lydia,
15:20 and she kind of went in without reading too much about it
15:22 and have any expectations.
15:23 And by the end of it, you're like, "Ah, that was nice."
15:26 Like, and it's not like the most groundbreaking film ever,
15:29 but I suppose when you have so many films that you see
15:34 and you can say, "Oh, this was amazing, that was amazing.
15:36 I didn't really enjoy that, or that was a bit, eh."
15:38 That film's like a solid eight.
15:40 - It is, and it's just funny.
15:41 It's just a nice, funny, old-fashioned film.
15:43 It's not trying to reinvent the wheel.
15:45 I mean, it isn't doing a zone of interest thing.
15:47 It's not saying it's hugely important.
15:49 It's a genuinely entertaining and fun night at the cinema
15:52 with great acting performances,
15:54 something to say about the world, well-directed.
15:56 I love the old-fashioned feel of everything.
15:58 I mean, that's quite clever, the way they've done that,
16:00 how all of it, I don't even know how they make it look
16:03 like a film that was basically made in the 1980s,
16:05 but they do it very, very well.
16:07 - It's like grim and a bit grimy in parts.
16:09 - Yeah, it is.
16:10 - But I really liked it.
16:11 I think it's been out, obviously, a while now,
16:12 but if you haven't seen it and you're thinking,
16:14 "Do I wanna go see a heavy movie like 'Zone of Interest'?"
16:16 It sounds like that would be the right thing to do.
16:18 If you just want a nice movie
16:20 that's got a good little message
16:21 and really, really, really good acting performances,
16:24 please don't take that away from the fact
16:26 that I'm saying it doesn't have a huge message
16:27 outside the tiny little one that is what it is.
16:29 Brilliant acting performances.
16:32 It's a really good movie just for a lovely Saturday night,
16:34 which is when we've seen it, really, you know.
16:37 But we're gonna go into Oscars
16:38 because we've got ages to do Oscars stuff,
16:40 and that's what we're gonna do
16:41 because we're kind of two saddos who actually care about it.
16:44 - Absolutely.
16:45 No one else likes what you do.
16:46 - Where else would Will Smith and Chris Rock
16:49 have an argument on stage
16:50 and create one of the most memeable things
16:52 you've ever seen in your life
16:54 after Will Smith has already created
16:56 a little bit of a meme of himself prior to that?
16:58 But you know what is really weird?
17:01 I was looking through who would won over the years,
17:05 and I was like, "Bloomin' heck,
17:08 a lot of these, I don't really rate."
17:11 - I completely agree.
17:11 So we're gonna talk about the best actors, aren't we?
17:13 We're gonna pick our favorite best actor winners.
17:17 And I was gonna say exactly the same thing,
17:20 that you look through it,
17:22 and I don't have much of an argument
17:24 with the actors who've won,
17:25 but the films they've won it for
17:27 are just absolutely bizarre.
17:29 And there's so few that have actually gone back
17:31 to and revisited, so many are my favorite films.
17:34 It seems to be that a lot of people,
17:35 particularly in the last 20 or 30 years,
17:38 have won for portraying real people
17:40 in slightly underwhelming biopics.
17:42 So people like Jamie Foxx for "Ray,"
17:44 Rami Malek for "A Bohemian Rhapsody,"
17:45 Gary Oldsman for "Darkest Hour."
17:47 And I'm not saying they're bad performances,
17:49 they're pretty good performances,
17:50 but the films themselves are kind of all right.
17:54 And then you get the actors who are brilliant actors
17:57 who the Academy has said it's time for them to win an Oscar.
18:01 And so they give it,
18:01 and we've talked about Leonardo DiCaprio many times before,
18:05 but for him to win for, what was it called?
18:09 "The Revenant." - "The Revenant."
18:10 - Which, I mean, all anyone remembers about "The Revenant"
18:13 is the bit with the bear,
18:14 which is quite funny, I think, instead of being traumatic.
18:18 I remember having a giggle in the cinema about it.
18:20 But like, it's probably his worst film, you know?
18:23 And then Al Pacino for "Scent of a Woman,"
18:25 which, again, it's not a bad film,
18:27 it's not a bad performance,
18:28 but he's done so many better films.
18:30 Or Denzel Washington, one for "Training Day,"
18:33 which is, again, not a bad film.
18:35 It's a bit of fun.
18:36 It's something to go and see on a Saturday night.
18:38 But I mean, that is not even in the top 20 performances.
18:41 So I find it genuinely hard
18:43 to pick out three best acting Oscars
18:46 that I genuinely massively rate.
18:48 - I got four that I rate.
18:50 One of them stood out like a sore thumb.
18:52 - I know which one it is for you, yes.
18:54 - And then the other performances I really liked,
18:57 and it's funny, there's only one of them
18:59 that's like a real-life character,
19:02 and that's probably my favorite.
19:04 Let's play a game.
19:06 - Let's play a game, not like a jigsaw game,
19:08 just a normal one.
19:09 (laughing)
19:10 - I was about to say,
19:11 I don't want to do that on a Saturday afternoon.
19:13 (laughing)
19:15 - Who do you think is my favorite?
19:18 I looked at it very quickly.
19:19 I don't like to think about these things too much
19:20 because there's no point in me going in depth
19:22 and then doing analysis.
19:23 I'm just gonna snap my fingers.
19:24 - I think your favorite is Joaquin Phoenix.
19:29 - He's in the list, but it's not.
19:30 No, I thought, and I know people were kind of like,
19:33 he's ledger's better and stuff like that,
19:34 but I'm a huge fan of the character itself,
19:37 all incarnations of it,
19:39 and I'm a huge fan of Joaquin Phoenix.
19:43 I like almost everything that he's done.
19:45 I mean, if I don't like what he's done,
19:46 I like him in it probably.
19:48 I just think he's got an interesting face.
19:50 I love him.
19:50 I'd probably kiss him if he allowed me to,
19:52 which he might.
19:55 If you listen to Joaquin, we can,
19:57 I mean, if you don't tell anyone,
19:58 and you just want to keep it a secret, I'm fine with that.
20:03 He's not listening, is he?
20:04 No, but I know some people thought it was kind of boring
20:08 and didn't have much substance,
20:10 but one of my favorite film scenes of all time
20:12 is when he's in the bathroom.
20:13 And I kind of liked it.
20:17 And I know some people said it was,
20:18 oh, it just was a bad portrayal of mental health
20:22 and things like that and whatnot.
20:24 I really liked it.
20:27 And it's up there, but it's not my favorite.
20:28 I think there's one, maybe two performances.
20:32 I've picked four in total.
20:33 And Joaquin Phoenix was like level
20:36 with last year's winner for me.
20:37 I thought Brendan Fraser in "The Whale" was,
20:40 I won't swear, but incredible.
20:43 And I put a swear word ahead of that
20:44 just to emphasize if I could.
20:46 Then of course, I think naturally,
20:50 you have to include him for this,
20:51 but Daniel Day-Lewis in "There Will Be Blood,"
20:54 like it's Daniel Day-Lewis.
20:56 I don't really need to say much more.
20:58 But I think looking through the list quickly, I will say,
21:01 but giving it a good thought process,
21:03 what is my favorite performance from an actor
21:06 that has won a Best Actor award?
21:09 And whenever it's on the telly,
21:10 I literally cancel what I'm doing and sit and watch it.
21:12 Matthew McConaughey in "Dallas Buyers Club."
21:15 - Yeah, that is a great performance.
21:17 - Just phenomenal.
21:18 And I think it changed people's perception of McConaughey.
21:22 - Definitely.
21:23 - I forgot it was Matthew McConaughey,
21:25 and I realized it was this kind of like slightly,
21:28 well, very homophobic man that was promiscuous,
21:33 that picked up AIDS and was his whole transition.
21:36 And I know we absolutely grief him all of the time
21:40 for his recent horrendous acting performances,
21:43 but I also support an act that year of Jared Leto
21:46 was his best performance he'll ever do.
21:48 - I mean, what has he done with his life?
21:50 (laughing)
21:52 Going around the world, pretending to be a rock star
21:54 and doing ridiculous performances and ridiculous films.
21:58 And how good was he in that?
21:59 - Oh, he's brilliant in it.
22:01 He won the supporting actor Oscar, didn't he, for that?
22:03 Yeah, yeah, and deservedly so.
22:06 Oh, it's interesting, I'm actually similar.
22:08 I've got a similar one.
22:09 Well, actually my thought process is very similar to yours.
22:12 I mean, I think Nicolas Cage leaving Las Vegas
22:16 is probably my favorite best actor performance
22:19 for a number of reasons.
22:20 One, the film is incredible and it still is incredible.
22:23 I watch it probably once a year and he's brilliant
22:27 because everyone laughs by Nicolas Cage
22:29 and he does, he acts like Nicolas Cage.
22:31 But the weird thing about leaving Las Vegas is--
22:33 - I love Nicolas Cage.
22:35 I'm just remembering the bit in "Dream Scenario"
22:39 when he farts.
22:40 - Yes.
22:41 - And whenever someone says Nicolas Cage now,
22:42 I'm thinking of it because it's still recent in my mind
22:44 and it still makes me giggle.
22:45 I laughed in the cinema for about 15 minutes
22:48 to the point where people started doing that.
22:50 (laughing)
22:52 - Well, you see, he can do anything.
22:53 That's the thing about Nicolas Cage,
22:54 he can do anything.
22:55 He can do an Oscar-winning role
22:56 where he goes to Las Vegas to drink himself to death
22:59 or he can make you laugh for 15 minutes by farting.
23:02 He is a man who's got a film for everyone
23:05 and people take the mickey out of him.
23:07 But the really interesting thing about leaving Las Vegas
23:09 is that he still acts like Nicolas Cage.
23:11 He still has a very unusual acting style in it,
23:14 but it absolutely works and he just completely nails it.
23:18 And I love that he won the Oscar.
23:19 I'm so pleased he won the Oscar
23:21 'cause sometimes performances like that
23:22 don't get recognized and often the Oscars,
23:25 they aren't, you see the people who lost
23:27 when certain people won and you go,
23:29 it's just very sad that Oscar
23:30 didn't recognize that performance instead
23:32 because it would make the Oscars more interesting,
23:35 you know, body of work, the people who've won them.
23:38 So Nicolas Cage is my top,
23:40 but also Roberto Benigni for me for "Life is Beautiful,"
23:43 which was very much around
23:45 when I was just getting into films.
23:47 And the wonderful thing about his win
23:49 is that it was a proper surprise.
23:50 You don't really get surprises in the Oscars anymore,
23:53 particularly not in the big categories.
23:55 It's usually the favorite or the second favorites.
23:57 Roberto Benigni that year was up against Tom Hanks,
24:00 Ian McKellen, Nick Nolte, and Edward Norton.
24:04 Edward Norton for "American History X."
24:05 Had he won, he would have been one of my favorite
24:07 best actor winners as well.
24:09 - Never won an Oscar.
24:10 - Never won an Oscar.
24:11 And "American History X" is just a staggeringly good film.
24:13 But Roberto Benigni did not think he was gonna win.
24:16 And it was one of these lovely moments of the Oscars
24:18 where he clearly didn't think he was gonna win.
24:21 And he danced up the stage and he was lovely.
24:23 And it's a lovely film as well.
24:24 And he seems like a lovely, lovely man.
24:26 He's done very little since, really, Roberto Benigni.
24:29 He's certainly not threatening any more Oscar wins.
24:33 But it was just nice to have a proper surprise.
24:35 I loved that film so much when it came out
24:37 and I was just delighted that he won.
24:39 And then I think the classic, proper, big Oscar acting win
24:44 has got to be Robert De Niro for "Raging Bull."
24:48 And the reason I'm pointing here is,
24:50 I think no matter when that came out,
24:52 if that film was to come out this year
24:54 with that performance, it would win the Best Actor Oscar.
24:57 I don't think anything could beat that film
24:59 'cause it is an Oscar-y role.
25:01 You know, he kind of transforms his body a wee bit.
25:03 It's a very committed performance in a really good film.
25:06 It's very physical.
25:07 Oscar seems to like that kind of physical performance.
25:10 And it's just a great film, "Raging Bull," you know?
25:13 I think Robert De Niro could have won
25:14 for six or seven films.
25:16 Arguably, he should have won for "Taxi Driver" instead,
25:18 maybe, but I mean, "Raging Bull"
25:20 is probably a close second to that.
25:21 So I think for a classic actor,
25:24 that was when they got it right.
25:25 They got the actor with the film probably right then
25:28 when really they often don't when it comes down to it.
25:31 So yeah, I think those are my three,
25:33 but it is remarkable that in the last 20 years,
25:37 a good 10 of them are films
25:39 that I probably wouldn't watch again.
25:41 - Yeah, like I look through the list
25:46 and I feel quite bad 'cause obviously "Raging Bull,"
25:47 like technically I haven't included in my list either,
25:50 but like it's a great movie for obvious reasons.
25:53 But like a lot of the movies I was like, "Oh yeah, oh well."
25:58 And people go, "Well, you like "Joker."
26:00 Yeah, I do.
26:01 What's your point?
26:02 - But that is definitely a great performance.
26:04 I mean, I do agree that he almost certainly deserves it
26:08 for his performance.
26:09 I would put it into the category of,
26:10 I mean, I think he's done better films
26:12 and I understand that's because I'm ambivalent about "Joker."
26:15 I certainly didn't hate it, but I do think-
26:18 - I fully agree.
26:19 - "Joker," when we're talking about his zone of interest,
26:21 I find it kind of similarly hard work.
26:23 I wasn't very much entertained by it.
26:25 I just came out of the cinema feeling a bit glum
26:27 about the world and going,
26:28 "Yeah, that kind of is what the world's like, isn't it?"
26:30 And I find that a bit depressing.
26:32 And it didn't really have any light in it.
26:33 It didn't have any hope in it, "Joker" particularly, did it?
26:35 It was just, "The world is awful.
26:37 "It's gonna continue to get worse."
26:40 - I kinda like that.
26:41 - Well, it's your nihilism thing, yeah.
26:43 - Oh, I mean-
26:45 - You love your nihilism, don't you?
26:47 - Probably am one.
26:48 In terms of the film, yeah, I felt like,
26:52 I kinda like the fact that it left without a story,
26:54 but I'm really interested to see how Barak Yogan does "Joker,"
26:57 which is now confirmed as.
26:59 - Yeah.
27:00 - I think it would be really interesting
27:01 because, look, he's beautiful, but he looks a bit funny.
27:04 - Yes, and it is interesting that that is kind of
27:06 the superhero, superhero films don't win acting awards,
27:10 but I think Jack Nicholson was nominated
27:12 for the original "Batman."
27:14 - Yeah.
27:15 - And then-
27:16 - Heath.
27:17 - Heath Ledger won Best Supporting Actor.
27:20 - He did.
27:21 - Joaquin Phoenix has won Best Actor.
27:23 - Best Actor.
27:24 - Yeah, so I mean, it is one of these roles that proper-
27:28 - It's a really interesting character.
27:29 - They get into it.
27:30 It is an interesting character.
27:32 - I think Paul Dano's amazing,
27:33 and I thought Paul Dano was amazing as the Red Lady,
27:35 he's one of my favorite actors of all time,
27:37 but then when you look at, like,
27:38 Barry Keoghan's tiny cameo
27:40 where you couldn't even see his face,
27:41 that was more of a talking point than he was,
27:43 and I think that's just character.
27:44 I think people are just more interested in "Joker"
27:46 than anyone else in "Batman."
27:47 - Yeah, and I think more actors want to play him.
27:49 I mean, it's interesting, have you seen Barry Keoghan's
27:52 audition tape for "Joker," for playing the Joker?
27:57 Look it up on the internet after this,
27:59 and he made it himself,
28:01 so he made it himself on an iPhone, I think,
28:03 and he sent it in, and it's absolutely staggering,
28:06 and you can see why the producers or whoever looked at it
28:09 just went, "That is our Joker,"
28:11 and it shows how, I mean,
28:12 I think he just basically sent it in
28:13 without even being invited to actually audition,
28:16 but I think people want to play the Joker.
28:18 I think very few actors would actually turn up
28:21 the opportunity to get their teeth into the role,
28:23 'cause it is such an interesting antihero.
28:25 - I don't want to go on a massive "Joker" rant,
28:27 but I'm gonna go on a small one,
28:30 'cause we've mentioned him in the pod already.
28:32 Jared Leto's idea of making the Joker edgy
28:34 was to get a chest tattoo.
28:36 - How did he mess up that role?
28:39 So there you go, so everyone else does amazing things
28:42 with the Joker, apart from Jared Leto,
28:44 who just absolutely ruins the character.
28:46 I'd actually forgotten he actually did the Joker.
28:49 I've managed to blank it out of my memory.
28:51 - Interesting as well, staying on this,
28:54 the next "Joker" is gonna be a musical.
28:57 - Yes.
28:58 - And it has Lady Gaga as Harley Quinn,
29:02 which I'm really excited about.
29:03 I think Lady Gaga-
29:04 - Looks like it'll be very good.
29:05 - Well, I think if Lady Gaga, like, look, she could like,
29:08 how do I put this in the right way?
29:11 Everything she touches turns to gold.
29:13 She's just multi-talented across music.
29:15 - She is super, yeah, she's absolutely super.
29:17 - Visionary, like people comparing her
29:19 with Madonna and stuff like that,
29:20 Madonna couldn't touch the woman.
29:22 - No, I would agree, certainly not for acting.
29:24 I mean, Lady Gaga's a tremendous actress.
29:27 Whereas Madonna with-
29:29 - Better singer, better visionary, better artist,
29:32 better actor, better all around.
29:35 - I'm not gonna disagree with you.
29:36 I'm not gonna disagree with you.
29:37 - Lady Gaga, I'm a big fan of.
29:39 We've only got six minutes left, ooh.
29:42 So let's do best actress.
29:44 For me, three very different performances,
29:47 but they're all stood out quite a bit.
29:49 I think one of them you might be shocked at.
29:52 Let's play a little game again, Dave.
29:53 Who do you think, I think, is the best actress performance?
29:56 - You're tricky with best actresses.
29:59 I'm just gonna have a wee, I think you're gonna go for,
30:03 I don't know, I think you might go for Emma Stone.
30:09 I know you like Emma Stone, no?
30:11 - I do like Emma Stone.
30:13 - Hmm.
30:14 Are you gonna go for, I don't know.
30:19 This is very, very tricky.
30:21 I don't think I can guess.
30:23 - So I'm not too sure on the order yet,
30:26 but I think I'm gonna decide here and now.
30:29 Frances McDormand.
30:31 - Ah, yeah, that's a good call.
30:32 - Numerous wins, but mine would be for "Three Billboards."
30:36 - Yeah.
30:37 - Because the long story short was,
30:39 I really believed she was a grieving mother,
30:41 which is what she played.
30:43 - Yeah.
30:43 - She played the pain, the anguish, the stress,
30:47 the unhappiness with life and doing something about it
30:50 to make herself feel happier, even though it's horrific.
30:53 And it'll never ever be,
30:54 and obviously it's a true story, I believe, as well,
30:56 isn't it, "Three Billboards?"
30:57 She just portrayed it really well.
30:58 And I imagine, I don't know if the woman
31:00 who actually had lived through
31:02 that incredibly hard situation would have watched the film,
31:06 but I imagine if she did, she went, "Pfft, she got that."
31:09 And that's hard.
31:10 - No, it's a good performance.
31:12 I also liked her in "Nomadland."
31:14 She was great in "Nomadland" as well,
31:15 which was her other best actress win.
31:18 - She's won three.
31:19 - She won three?
31:20 I thought it was just two, but yeah.
31:21 - She won, I'm sure she won another one.
31:23 I could be wrong on that.
31:25 But she, oh, she won it for "Fargo."
31:29 - Maybe.
31:31 - She won it for "Fargo."
31:32 - Might have.
31:33 - I could be wrong, but I'm sure she won for "Fargo" as well.
31:35 However, I'm really disappointed she never won an award
31:37 for "Burn After Reading" because she's hilarious in that.
31:42 Like, so funny.
31:43 Great film, which people don't see
31:46 the rates highly as I do, but there you go.
31:48 I think my second, and I think this will shock you a bit,
31:52 because it's a film that people probably don't see
31:55 as deeply as I do, but I thought it was a really good movie,
31:57 and I thought this was another film
31:58 that I thought summed up mental health, anxiety,
32:01 and everything that goes with it really, really well.
32:04 Jennifer Lawrence in "Silver Lions Playbook."
32:07 - Yeah, I'm a big fan of her.
32:09 I'm not such a big fan of that film, I have to say.
32:12 - I love it.
32:13 - Yeah, I just didn't quite get it.
32:14 Like, I thought it was funny,
32:16 but not funny enough to be a really good comedy,
32:18 and I didn't think it was dramatic enough
32:20 to be a good drama.
32:21 It just fell somewhere in the middle for me.
32:23 - Oh, I love it.
32:24 - But I understand that most people love it.
32:25 - 'Cause I thought it was a good, like, romantic movie,
32:27 but I think it had a good element
32:28 of how tricky romance can be when you've got, like,
32:31 I don't wanna say mental health issues,
32:33 but, like, stuff that affects your life.
32:36 And, like, he's obviously dealing with that divorce,
32:38 and he's almost, like, not wanting to get
32:39 with Jennifer Lawrence in the movie
32:41 because it's actually not his ex-wife, which is,
32:44 I don't know, it spoke to me.
32:46 There we are.
32:47 And my third one probably shouldn't be a massive surprise.
32:51 An iconic performance.
32:52 The film was released on Valentine's Day,
32:54 so I think, personally, it's a love story.
32:56 It was always intended to be.
32:58 Jodie Foster in "Silence of the Lambs."
33:00 - Yeah, which was obviously that one,
33:03 that won the big four awards, didn't it?
33:05 Which is amazing for a horror film.
33:08 I don't think that would happen now, but-
33:09 - It's a romance, it's a romance.
33:11 - It is a romance, it's a beautiful romance.
33:14 Boy meets girl, and boy kills lots of people
33:17 and eats their faces.
33:18 - Yeah.
33:19 (laughing)
33:21 - Well, my three, I have not prepared this,
33:24 so I'm just having a wee look.
33:25 That's why I'm anxiously looking down.
33:26 But again, again, it's kind of one of these things.
33:31 You see a lot of people who've won for,
33:33 and there's some genuinely awful ones.
33:35 I mean, Gwyneth Paltrow for "Shakespeare in Love."
33:37 How did she win Best Actress for that?
33:39 That is absolutely mental.
33:40 My best memory of seeing somebody win Best Actress Oscar
33:46 was Natalie Portman for "Black Swan,"
33:48 again, a horror film, really.
33:50 And we love horrors, and it's nice to see horror recognized.
33:53 I think she's absolutely brilliant in it.
33:55 I think she's always brilliant in everything.
33:57 But I thought that was a very unusual performance,
33:58 and unusual to see that kind of performance winning an Oscar.
34:01 So I was really, really happy about that.
34:04 - I forgot that Mila Kunis was in that.
34:07 - Yeah, she was in it too, and she was brilliant in it too.
34:09 I don't think she even got a Best Supporting Actress
34:12 nomination, but she probably should have done.
34:14 And then I would go for,
34:18 I don't know, Jodie Foster's up there.
34:21 Kathy Bates for "Misery."
34:22 It's all kind of going for the horror ones again,
34:24 but again, that's an amazingly gruesome role.
34:27 Again, horror often recognized, and she is terrifying.
34:30 She's properly, properly terrifying in it.
34:33 One of the great movie monsters.
34:35 So I go for her just for that scene
34:37 where she goes at his ankles with a sledgehammer.
34:41 That's just, I remember replaying that on video
34:43 again and again and again,
34:44 watching it time and time again.
34:47 So definitely go for that.
34:49 And then I think my last one,
34:51 oh, it's tricky.
34:54 There's so many slightly poorer ones.
34:55 I'm gonna go for Diane Keaton in "Annie Hall,"
34:58 which is one of my favorite films of all time.
35:01 And I just think she's wonderful in it.
35:03 I think it's a film that, again,
35:04 I could watch again and again and again.
35:06 And I just think she's very deserving of it.
35:09 Eva Lowe, she didn't have, she beat,
35:12 I think she beat "City Spacek" for Carrie,
35:14 which is upsetting.
35:16 But-
35:17 - Yeah, it's quite upsetting.
35:19 - She didn't win for Carrie.
35:20 But yeah, I've kind of gone horror-y for two of them.
35:22 'Cause I like seeing horror actors recognized
35:25 'cause they don't get recognized enough.
35:26 - I don't think that's as surprising as it should be
35:28 because I do think that, like with horror,
35:31 it has to work harder to get recognized.
35:33 - Yeah.
35:34 - 'Cause people think people who like horror
35:35 all look like me, and that's true.
35:37 (laughing)
35:38 Like little gothy weirdos that chat too much
35:43 and go, "Way horror."
35:44 But actually, horror's a really good genre.
35:46 - It's interesting that they don't get recognized so much.
35:48 They did used to that.
35:49 I mean, I think Mia Goth should have been up for an Oscar,
35:51 you know?
35:52 And she's not.
35:53 But I think maybe 20 years ago,
35:55 yeah, maybe she would have done.
35:56 'Cause I mean, her performance in "Pearl"
35:58 is absolutely spectacular.
36:00 And well worthy of being recognized,
36:01 but Oscar doesn't seem to do genre films anymore.
36:04 Whereas actually, you look back and they used to.
36:07 - Yeah, I do think it still, to this day,
36:10 needs to work harder.
36:11 I think people think like "Silence of the Lambs"
36:12 was like a movie that sort of broke that stigma
36:15 against horror, but horror doesn't win much still.
36:20 - It doesn't, no.
36:21 It's sad.
36:22 - And there's no reason why it shouldn't.
36:23 - No, it's massively popular, makes lots of money,
36:24 and great performances, great directorial stuff.
36:27 So it's just, yeah, absolutely should be recognized more.
36:30 - We say massively popular.
36:31 It's the most popular genre, I think,
36:33 or a fanatical genre.
36:35 You don't see like drama con, do you,
36:37 where all the people in dramas and thrillers
36:39 come up and turn up.
36:39 And they're like, "Ooh, there you go."
36:40 You get horror cons all over the world.
36:42 So yeah, that's my defensive horror.
36:45 We'll do a quick one before we go.
36:47 We've got a few more minutes.
36:48 Let's go for best film,
36:50 because I think this one was a bit easier for me.
36:52 But again, there's a lot of films on the list.
36:54 That one best picture that I was like, "All right."
36:57 - Like, have you got a top three?
37:00 - I will give you my top three now.
37:02 - Okay.
37:04 I'll let you go first on this one.
37:05 - So I'm gonna have a wee look at the list.
37:08 Let's have a wee look here.
37:13 - Do you know what mine is?
37:14 - See, again, there's a lot of not great films in there
37:19 when it comes to exit.
37:20 There's no doubt about that.
37:21 There's a lot of like real filler films.
37:24 - English or-
37:25 - I am gonna go, "The English Patient"
37:27 is just not a good film.
37:28 It's a genuinely bad film.
37:31 "Green Book" should not have won, you know?
37:33 Well, I mean, so my favorite is definitely "Parasite."
37:38 "Parasite" for me is heads and shoulders
37:40 above any other film that's won best picture,
37:42 because I genuinely think that it's the only year
37:45 where they've actually given it to the best film.
37:47 And I think it's the only year
37:48 where they give it to the best film
37:49 that most people agree was the best film.
37:50 It was at the top of almost every critics'
37:52 end of year list.
37:53 Not that critics know more than everyone else,
37:55 but it's kind of nice that it all came together.
37:57 So "Parasite" for me,
37:58 it's one of my favorite films of all time.
38:00 - Just to point out, film critics know less than us.
38:03 That's why we are not everyone's film critics.
38:06 - That's right, absolutely right.
38:08 And then, I don't know,
38:11 I'm gonna go for "No Country for Old Men."
38:15 - Ah, brilliant movie.
38:16 - Which I think was a kind of unexpected winner as well.
38:18 It's a properly kind of bleak, kind of nasty film.
38:22 But I just was delighted that that won.
38:25 And it beats a couple of it,
38:26 it beats "Atonement" and "There Will Be Bloods."
38:29 I think "There Will Be Bloods"
38:30 was probably favorite for that.
38:31 So I think it was a slight surprise that,
38:33 which is nice as well.
38:34 And then I am going to go for,
38:38 gonna go for "Amadeus,"
38:40 which again is one of my favorite films of all time.
38:43 Great performances.
38:44 And a film that again, it does interesting things.
38:48 It's not a normal film.
38:49 It is a biopic.
38:50 We're just talking about the kind of average biopics
38:52 that you tend to get at Oscar.
38:54 It's anything but that.
38:55 It's a huge colorful celebration of film.
38:57 And again, it's a film that I can watch year in, year out
39:00 and always enjoy it.
39:01 - I'll give you my "Dead Easy."
39:04 My favorite's probably "The Departed."
39:06 Like I think "The Departed" is great.
39:09 Like I think it's borderline untouchable.
39:12 I absolutely love it.
39:14 I don't think there's a bad performance in it.
39:15 It's one of those films
39:16 where there's loads of really good actors in it,
39:18 but actually that normally makes the film cack.
39:21 But it's not cack.
39:22 It's very good and I really like it.
39:24 Outside of that, I would put it up there
39:28 'cause I really enjoyed it last year's winner.
39:30 Everything everywhere all at once.
39:31 I thought it was really good.
39:33 - Yeah, it's a good film.
39:34 - I think it was deserving of the win last year.
39:37 So I put it in.
39:38 We've reviewed the film on here before.
39:40 I went to see it twice at the cinema.
39:41 I don't really normally do that.
39:42 Really liked it.
39:43 Yada, yada, yada.
39:44 And then outside of that,
39:47 this is gonna be a boring way to finish it off,
39:51 but "Silence of the Lambs".
39:53 (laughing)
39:55 - Well, it's one of the classic films.
39:58 It is a classic film.
39:58 Won everything for good reason.
40:01 - The scene in Hannibal though,
40:04 where Ray Liotta is getting his brain cut out,
40:09 really weirds me out.
40:11 - Yeah, that's not an easy scene to watch, is it?
40:14 - No, 'cause it's Ray Liotta.
40:16 Like, just punch him.
40:17 You're a gangster, mate.
40:19 Like, don't let him do what he's doing.
40:20 But anyway, Dave, thanks for joining us always.
40:24 We've gone well over time, as we normally do.
40:27 Go see movies.
40:28 Do what I don't do, evidently.
40:30 Just go see some films.
40:31 But thanks for joining us.
40:33 You can subscribe.
40:34 I don't know what you can do with this.
40:35 Just watch it again if you want.
40:36 Or watch the previous episodes.
40:37 Do what you like.
40:38 Enjoy your weekend.
40:39 See you next week.
40:40 Bye.
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