This week Chris Deacy is joined by Vince Malple to discuss the films: Wayne's World, The Sparks Brothers, Planes, Trains and Automobiles, and The Blues Brothers.
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00:02 - Hello and welcome to Kent Film Club.
00:15 I'm Chris DC and each week I'll be joined by a guest
00:18 from Kent to dive deep into the impact
00:21 certain films have had on their life.
00:23 Each guest will reflect on the films
00:25 which have meant the most to them over the years.
00:28 And every week there will be a Kent Film Trivia
00:30 where we quiz you at home about a film
00:33 that has a connection to the county.
00:35 And now let me introduce you to my guest for this week.
00:39 When he isn't busy being the Labour and Cooperative Leader
00:42 of Medway Council, Chatham Central and Brompton Councillor,
00:46 or Chair South East Labour,
00:48 he likes to think of himself simply as Ned's dad.
00:51 He is Vince Maple.
00:53 - Hello Chris.
00:54 - Hi, good to meet you Vince.
00:56 - And I can't wait, now I know it was difficult
00:58 for you to whittle down this selection.
01:01 - I tell you, I've done many, many interviews
01:03 on this sofa, but this has been the most challenging
01:06 to prepare for.
01:07 I've come up with four, if you ask me next week
01:09 I might have a different four,
01:10 but I'm looking forward to going through them today.
01:12 - Well I can't wait 'cause I saw this one
01:14 when I was a university student and we saw this
01:16 and everyone was in laughter, you know,
01:19 hoots of laughter, you've gone for Wayne's World.
01:21 - I have, there'll be lots of reasons
01:23 why people pick films.
01:24 For me, part of this is sheer quantity of time seeing this.
01:27 I've seen this nine times at cinemas,
01:30 including most recently over in the States,
01:32 over in San Francisco when I was over there
01:35 with my partner.
01:36 We went to see it, there was a kind of 25th anniversary
01:39 showing I think it was.
01:41 This film should be on everybody's list.
01:43 It is the funniest film.
01:45 I can't tell you why I love it, I just love it.
01:46 I think part of the reason why I particularly enjoy it
01:49 is it breaks the fourth wall, which I think is a,
01:52 you know, if I think about things I've enjoyed
01:53 on television recently, so Fleabag, Miranda,
01:55 things like that, they're very good at doing that.
01:57 This film does this in a way which no other,
02:00 I think, does so brilliantly.
02:03 - Because when it came out in '92,
02:05 it felt really different precisely for those reasons,
02:08 but it was sort of like referencing pop culture
02:10 or the pop culture of the day,
02:12 and you'd have various cameos sort of coming in
02:14 from different stars, but there was just something
02:17 about it that came to sort of,
02:18 it sort of said something about that particular generation
02:22 of, quote, young people.
02:24 - Well, that's true, and at the time,
02:26 all the hype in cinemas was around
02:27 the new Addams Family film coming out, which was okay.
02:30 That's not in my top four, this definitely is.
02:32 And one of the trailers was kind of a parody
02:34 of the Addams Family, so the ability to poke fun
02:37 at cinema, poke fun at the kind of pop culture, as you say.
02:39 One of my favourite scenes is the scene around sponsorship
02:43 and how they won't sell out with big signs
02:45 of Pizza Hut and Pepsi, other Cokes
02:47 and pizza shops are available.
02:49 So yeah, it takes the ability to, I think,
02:51 just poke fun at lots of different aspects
02:54 of life in the early '90s.
02:56 It comes from the American comedy show Saturday Night Live.
02:59 That might not be the only time we talk
03:01 about that programme today, but certainly, let's say,
03:03 I think one of the things, as you say,
03:05 people like Alice Cooper and Meat Loaf
03:07 just randomly appearing in a film is pretty cool.
03:09 But, and it led to, I think, the renaissance in Queen
03:13 with that historic and iconic scene in the car.
03:17 Most of us in our teenage years would have been in a car
03:20 with the stereo too loud playing something,
03:22 in this case, of course, Bohemian Rhapsody.
03:25 - Yeah, and there was also that moment, of course,
03:27 maybe it was in the sequel, when they go to a drive-in
03:29 and they garble up the order, thinking that apparently
03:33 that they would get a free burger or something
03:35 if they do that, but it still interprets correctly
03:37 what they want, so you know, that they're trying
03:38 to sort of cheat the whole capitalist culture sort of thing,
03:41 but it sort of rebounds on them.
03:43 And it just sort of, lots of sly, in-joke references,
03:46 but I'm fascinated that you saw this
03:49 at the cinema many times.
03:50 Was that the first time that you saw it?
03:52 - Yeah, absolutely.
03:53 So I saw it at Chatham Odeon, so we're here in Chatham.
03:56 Chatham Odeon, which now, like so many other cinemas
03:58 across the county, in that case, is a block of flats.
04:01 But also, you know, it was the ability to go
04:03 and enjoy a film.
04:04 I think, I can't recall whether it was a 12 or 15 rating
04:06 at the time, so I think I was just about allowed
04:08 to go and watch it, which was great.
04:10 And yeah, seeing it, certainly, at the Prince Charles Theatre
04:13 in London, which does loads of great showings,
04:15 and of course, as I say, managed to see it
04:17 when I was in San Francisco.
04:18 So we'd always take up the opportunity to see this,
04:21 absolutely, in my view, iconic film.
04:23 - And when you watched it in the cinema
04:25 on different occasions in different countries,
04:27 different continents, with different audiences,
04:29 have you got a different response to the film?
04:31 Have people laughed in places
04:33 where maybe they haven't laughed before?
04:35 - I think, certainly, what was interesting
04:37 was watching it in the States, I think,
04:38 because some of it is quite American pop culture
04:40 in particular.
04:42 So I think, perhaps, there were additional reactions
04:45 that perhaps the UK audience didn't necessarily
04:47 pick up on.
04:49 Certainly, there's one or two references
04:50 to US adverts in there, specifically.
04:54 So I think that was picked up, perhaps,
04:55 in a way that the audience here in Chatham
04:57 wouldn't have seen it.
04:58 But I think, actually, even those minor differences,
05:01 you know, every audience watching it was enjoying it
05:03 and laughing a lot.
05:04 It's got a lot of laugh-out-loud moments.
05:07 But also, I say, it's got a pretty amazing soundtrack
05:10 as well.
05:11 If I think about some of the best films of all time,
05:15 one of the things that I think makes a good film
05:17 a good film is a great soundtrack.
05:19 And this has got an outstanding soundtrack.
05:21 Even if you've never seen it, go onto your Spotify,
05:23 Apple Music, whatever, listen to the Wayneswold soundtrack.
05:26 - And as well as the Queen one,
05:27 what would also stand out on the soundtrack for you?
05:30 - Part of the storyline is that there is a band in the film
05:33 and they do a really brilliant, actually, cover version
05:36 of "Ballroom Blitz" by The Sweet.
05:37 So, absolutely, Tia Carrera is fantastic in there.
05:40 A really good singing voice, so it's her vocals,
05:43 unlike other films in the past where someone's overdubbed
05:45 a famous actress.
05:46 So, yeah, listen to the soundtrack.
05:48 Watch the film and then listen to the soundtrack.
05:50 - I am absolutely gonna watch this film again,
05:52 and I mean that because you've just brought
05:54 my whole 90s back to me.
05:55 - There you go. - So brilliant.
05:56 Okay, well, let's move on to your second chosen film, Vince,
05:59 and you've gone for, and I don't know if I know this,
06:02 The Sparks Brothers.
06:03 - So, when I first got the invite to come on,
06:05 one of the things in my head immediately was,
06:08 I've definitely gotta pick a documentary.
06:10 I love a good documentary.
06:11 It's probably my favourite sort of film genre, if you will.
06:14 So, I went through Bowling for Columbine,
06:16 Searching for Sugar Man, both brilliant documentaries.
06:19 I ended up with The Sparks Brothers,
06:21 in part because it's a very watchable film,
06:24 directed by Edgar Wright, of course, famous for Hot Fuzz.
06:28 Sparks, as the trailer says,
06:30 Sparks are your favourite band's favourite band,
06:33 and there's always been this bit of mystique about them,
06:35 but this takes that kind of boring,
06:38 kind of musical biopic, which we've had dozens of,
06:42 and you can get on every streaming service
06:43 you like these days.
06:44 This is far beyond that.
06:46 This is a proper documentary with the story of them
06:50 from their kind of very late 60s, actually,
06:53 when they first started making music.
06:54 Their successes, their absolute failures in the 80s as well.
06:59 And for me, it does a couple of things.
07:01 It's a great documentary.
07:02 The format of documentary sometimes doesn't work
07:08 when it comes to telling stories,
07:09 kind of the human element of stories.
07:11 This absolutely does here.
07:13 It's done with good humour,
07:14 and I think at the heart of it is the ability
07:17 for two brothers to come through
07:20 almost half a century of making music,
07:23 and actually having an absolute renaissance,
07:25 in part because they're producing great music,
07:27 and actually in part because of this documentary.
07:30 They played at the Royal Albert Hall in 2023,
07:33 and Edgar Wright came on at the end of the show
07:36 and took a picture of the whole audience.
07:37 They sold out the Royal Albert Hall for two nights,
07:40 and they made it clear, actually,
07:41 part of the reason lots of people were in the audience
07:43 were because of this documentary.
07:45 - And I've got a friend who is also a religious studies person
07:49 who lived in South Wales, and he is,
07:53 well, I was about to say the biggest sparks,
07:55 although actually, you have to be careful what I say.
07:57 But I mean, this whole intergenerational thing,
07:59 I mean, what was that big song in the 70s,
08:01 "This town ain't big enough for the two of us"?
08:03 - "For the both of us", yeah.
08:05 - I mean, all of that, but really kind of counter,
08:08 I can't even say counter-cultural,
08:10 because they're so bespoke.
08:11 They're so idiosyncratic, and yet, of course,
08:14 everything that they do sounds so different,
08:16 and they appear on the soundtrack
08:17 of lots of different films.
08:19 - Well, that's true, and of course,
08:21 they've been recently nominated for Oscars as well,
08:23 were unfortunately unsuccessful.
08:25 So from that perspective,
08:27 I think they've always had a cinema element
08:30 to their kind of artistic output.
08:32 That's always been part of their vision.
08:33 So again, I think the documentary format
08:35 for them telling their story,
08:37 working with such a trusted director as well,
08:39 and I think that's what brought other talking heads,
08:42 which is often the way some of these things work.
08:44 The fact that Edgar Wright was there
08:45 was a kind of seal of approval to say,
08:47 "This is a band that you probably love,
08:49 "and if you don't love them yet,
08:50 "you will do by the end of this documentary."
08:52 And for, yeah, you're right to say,
08:54 actually, people will come forward.
08:55 One of the lines in the film is,
08:57 "There are bands who don't even know
08:59 "that their lineage probably goes back to Sparks,"
09:01 but actually, it is the case.
09:02 And I think if you look particularly through their impact
09:05 in the late 70s and early 80s,
09:08 things like the number one song, "In Heaven,"
09:11 which is an amazing piece of electro-pop,
09:13 there are dozens of bands that probably
09:17 can take their history back to that sort of song.
09:20 - And do you think there's something
09:21 about the documentary format?
09:23 This is the first documentary
09:24 that I think we've had on Kent Film.
09:26 - Oh, there we go.
09:27 - But is it-- - Creating history.
09:27 - Absolutely, but do you think that there's something
09:29 about the documentary that does something
09:33 that a live-action film is not able to do?
09:36 - Well, I think there's a couple of things.
09:39 There's something about, you know,
09:40 so lots of films are telling stories, ultimately.
09:42 All films are telling a story of one form or another.
09:46 This is around, I guess, in part,
09:48 the ability for someone to say,
09:50 "Well, we're not gonna use the tools
09:51 "of the cinema trade, if you will.
09:53 "We're gonna tell the story
09:54 "in a more kind of straightforward, factual way,"
09:56 perhaps some would say.
09:57 But if, yeah, if you think around everything
09:59 from the kind of David Attenborough-type stuff in the world,
10:02 and there's been good examples of that historically
10:05 over the last couple of decades,
10:06 to, like, say, someone like Michael Moore,
10:08 who is pretty polemic, you know,
10:09 so you'll either agree with him or you won't.
10:11 So again, I think the form of documentary,
10:14 in a cinema in particular, seeing it on the big screen,
10:16 can quite often have a big, powerful impact,
10:18 or indeed, introduce you to something
10:20 that you never knew that you loved.
10:21 - Because the thing that really stands out for Sparks
10:24 is that they've kind of always been,
10:26 that they're something very eccentric,
10:28 but they've kind of stayed true to form,
10:32 and that's kind of worked for them over the decades.
10:35 And I don't know whether in the documentary
10:36 you kind of feel or want to feel
10:39 that you can learn anything more about them,
10:41 or do you sort of just watch them
10:42 as something quite enigmatic?
10:45 - Well, I think the point you make, Chris,
10:47 is an interesting one.
10:48 That whole kind of, they've produced more than 25 albums.
10:53 Most people watching this show probably know one song,
10:57 but they've managed to survive.
10:58 Now, again, there's been some pretty,
11:00 and the documentary doesn't shy away from the fact
11:03 that actually, again, particularly in the '80s,
11:05 they made some pretty poor decisions,
11:07 but they've come through it.
11:08 And again, it's about that kind of hope over adversity,
11:11 you know, which lots of films which are not documentaries
11:15 kind of base their view upon.
11:17 So yeah, look, I think if people haven't watched it,
11:20 if you're not a fan of documentaries,
11:21 make sure you go and watch the Sparks Brothers.
11:23 I'd highly recommend it.
11:24 - Will do, that's two out of two so far.
11:26 So that's about all the time we have
11:28 for this first half of the show.
11:30 However, before we go to the break,
11:31 we have a Kent Film Trivia question for you at home.
11:34 Which film transformed the historic dockyard
11:38 into the exterior to the Bethnal Green laundry,
11:42 a factory and prison cell?
11:44 Was it A, Suffragette, B, Our World War,
11:48 or C, Les Miserables?
11:51 We'll reveal the answer right after this break.
11:53 Don't go away.
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11:57 Hello and welcome back to Kent Film Club.
12:08 Just before the ad break,
12:09 we asked you at home a Kent Film Trivia question.
12:13 Which film transformed the historic dockyard
12:17 into the exterior to the Bethnal Green laundry,
12:20 a factory and prison cell?
12:22 I asked, was it A, Suffragette, B, Our World War,
12:26 or C, Les Miserables?
12:28 And now I can reveal to you that the answer
12:30 was in fact A, Suffragette.
12:33 Suffragette is a powerful film about the foot soldiers
12:36 of the Suffragette movement
12:37 in late 19th and early 20th century Britain.
12:40 Did you get the answer right?
12:43 Well, it's time now, Vince,
12:44 to move on to your next chosen film.
12:47 And oh, what an '80s classic,
12:49 Planes, Trains and Automobiles.
12:52 It is, it's another great film
12:55 which has the ability to make me laugh very loudly
12:59 and almost certainly cry every time I watch it.
13:02 I'm not afraid to admit that on Kent Film Club.
13:05 One of the often made mistakes in this country
13:08 is we think it's a Christmas movie.
13:10 Of course it's not.
13:11 They're trying to get home for Thanksgiving.
13:13 And yeah, as someone who doesn't drive,
13:16 the wonders of trying to deal with public transport.
13:19 I think I have, part of the reason I love this film
13:21 is the personal empathy with being that person
13:23 at the booking station
13:25 or the kind of conversation you're having
13:27 with the hardworking member of staff
13:29 who is stressed out themselves.
13:31 It is fantastic.
13:32 And it hasn't dated, I don't think, particularly.
13:35 You know, I think you could, you know,
13:37 there's been lots of talk of potential remakes
13:39 with people like Chris Rock and Will Smith
13:42 and indeed Drew Barrymore and Adam Sandler.
13:45 But it's one of those, I hope, I hope
13:47 they don't go and revisit because Steve Martin
13:50 and in particular John Candy, much missed,
13:54 you know, absolutely fantastic performances.
13:57 Well known for that particular scene in the hotel room
14:02 and those aren't pillows, but much, much more than that.
14:05 And again, it's that,
14:07 people talk about a buddy movie.
14:10 There's an element of that,
14:11 the ability to kind of look on and go,
14:14 yeah, I've felt pain like that myself in the past.
14:17 So yeah, brilliant.
14:18 And the way it, yeah, hits the fields, as they say,
14:23 the emotions in it,
14:24 they say there are points of absolute hilarity,
14:26 but also the end, I won't give it away
14:28 in case people want to watch it,
14:30 but have a box of tissues ready.
14:32 - Because you've got these two mismatched people
14:34 who of course are forced,
14:36 a bit like, I suppose, when Harry met Sally as well,
14:38 which is not that dissimilar,
14:39 both in terms of when it was made,
14:40 but in terms of being the road trip.
14:42 And the road trip is such an important,
14:44 perhaps particularly in American culture,
14:46 that sort of sense that it brings people together
14:49 who may not be together because they're forced to be there.
14:52 And it's that rite of passage that the film yields.
14:55 - That's right.
14:56 And I think, yeah, certainly again,
14:59 another bit of American culture, which again,
15:03 if they were to film a British version
15:06 of "Planes, Trains and Automobiles",
15:07 it probably would just be me stood at Chatham station
15:10 waiting for a special bus service.
15:12 The director's cut wouldn't be worth watching.
15:13 But actually, again, I think it's a film which,
15:17 if you've never seen either of these two main performers
15:20 as well, I think it's in both cases,
15:22 some of their finest work.
15:23 They've done other films, of course,
15:25 which people will know in both cases.
15:27 But I think for me, the fact that actually
15:30 their chemistry on screen really does work.
15:32 Again, the kind of characters they're playing,
15:35 of course, should probably never be in the same room
15:37 together in the rest of reality.
15:39 But the fact that they're on this multi-day long journey
15:43 through a lot of difficult circumstances
15:46 just makes a great film.
15:47 - And you just made me think, as you were saying that,
15:49 I was thinking, of course, "Roxanne" was the same year,
15:51 "Dirty Rotten Scoundrels" was one of my favourites,
15:53 but also with John Candy as well, "Home Alone",
15:55 of course, it's come out of the Christmas period.
15:57 So there's something, and when you're watching these films,
15:59 you're aware that there's something very iconic,
16:01 that they're channelling something about what it was
16:04 to be in America at a very specific time.
16:07 - Yeah, and again, that's where I think the conversation
16:10 about potential remakes, I do worry a bit about that.
16:15 You know, would trains, planes and automobiles work as well
16:19 if everyone was just looking at their apps
16:20 to find out when the next plane is?
16:22 Probably not.
16:23 So again, I'm not against a remake principally,
16:26 but I hope they leave this one alone.
16:28 - Yeah, and is there something, I mean,
16:30 what is it that stands out for you
16:32 in terms of particular scenes?
16:33 You mentioned at the end that you're not gonna give away,
16:35 but it is a rite of passage movie,
16:38 but along the way, as with all journeys,
16:40 there's the destination,
16:41 there's also what happens along the way.
16:43 And this is a film where it's what happens
16:45 along the way, isn't it?
16:46 - I mean, there's a couple of, again,
16:47 people who have seen it will have their own choices.
16:49 For me, certainly the driving the wrong way down the highway
16:53 and where there's a massive, you know,
16:55 a couple of minutes, which again,
16:57 I won't go into too much detail,
16:59 but certainly seeing John Candy as the devil,
17:01 which is a snapshot within that, is very, very funny.
17:05 And say the hotel room scene,
17:07 and also perhaps the scene on the bus
17:10 where you have the collective singing
17:12 and Steve Martin's character attempts
17:15 to break into three coins in a fountain.
17:18 And then John Candy gets the whole bus singing
17:20 to meet the Flintstones, which was very, very funny.
17:23 - But there's something in there about comedy.
17:26 So you mentioned that it's a film
17:28 that can reduce you to tears,
17:29 but what is it about comedy that can really hit us?
17:33 Because we're laughing, we're crying,
17:35 often in equal measure.
17:36 So what is it that can make a comedy stir the emotions
17:41 in a way that other genres perhaps don't do?
17:43 - I think something in around the kind of the U-turn,
17:48 the spin, the moment.
17:50 And again, without spoiling this,
17:51 'cause I want people who are watching today
17:53 to go and watch this when they get an opportunity.
17:57 I think sometimes it's around that kind of,
18:02 you've been taken again, cliche,
18:03 you've been taken on a journey with these characters
18:07 and then a moment, an incident, something happens
18:11 and I guess you're emotionally vulnerable
18:15 'cause you've been on this kind of positive, funny journey
18:18 and then you hear something and it's like, oh my goodness.
18:20 So I think good comedy almost lulls you
18:24 into a full sense of security
18:26 and then can hit you with a bit of emotional dynamite,
18:30 in this case, towards the end of the film.
18:32 - Absolutely.
18:32 I can't wait to see what your final chosen film is
18:36 and we will see that it's another comedy
18:41 but also a comedy that people,
18:43 that this often appears in so many people's
18:45 best film ever lists, "The Blues Brothers".
18:49 - So in the first half, we had something about brothers
18:52 and we had something from "Saturday Night Live"
18:54 with Wayne's World.
18:55 This combines both of them.
18:58 This has, I think, the best soundtrack
19:01 of any film ever made.
19:03 It also at the point had, I'm not a big fan of car crashes
19:07 but the most cars wrecked in a film
19:09 at the time it was made.
19:11 It's iconic.
19:12 It has, you know, in the two lead characters,
19:17 you know, people who, you know, bring a sense of fun
19:22 in a quite challenging and at points, you know,
19:25 madcap film where you've got ex-lovers, nuns
19:30 and Nazis all chasing after the Blues Brothers
19:35 along with a quite angry country and Western band.
19:40 That just is ridiculous, but it absolutely works.
19:43 And I think part of the reason it's on everyone's list
19:48 and is on so many lists is the fact of that soundtrack.
19:52 And we spoke earlier on about kind of cameo roles.
19:57 So the fact you've got Aretha Franklin just breaking out,
20:00 you've got, of course, James Brown in that iconic scene
20:04 as the pastor, you know, absolute icons of blues
20:09 and soul music being part of this film.
20:13 And in Dan Aykroyd and John Belushi,
20:15 you say two individuals who could do what they were doing
20:19 but also pull on, you know,
20:21 pretty impressive performances in the film.
20:24 - And of course the connection between the films
20:27 you've chosen so far, there's a comedy element,
20:29 but a real sense of poignancy as well
20:31 and an important role for music,
20:33 not least in your choice of the Sparks documentary.
20:37 So the Blues Brothers for you,
20:38 would you say it has the perfect combination?
20:40 - I think it brings it all together.
20:41 And it's amazing who loves this film.
20:44 So the Catholic Church at the time said,
20:47 this is a great example of positive Catholicism
20:51 'cause of course they're raising funds for the nunnery
20:56 and the school attached to it.
20:58 So yeah, the fact that, you know,
21:00 I'm in agreement with the Catholic Church
21:01 on the Blues Brothers shows that this is really something
21:04 which appeals to absolutely everybody.
21:06 - Yeah, and do you think that it's the music
21:08 that guides this?
21:08 You mentioned the acting and of course,
21:10 John Belushi sadly died not too long
21:13 after this film was made.
21:14 So what do you think is the secret
21:18 to why this has really stood the test of time?
21:20 - So I do think it's the soundtrack.
21:22 I mean, I do think it's the soundtrack.
21:24 It's iconic.
21:25 Of course they made Blues Brothers 2000,
21:28 which actually in my view, isn't a bad film,
21:31 but it's a bit like comparing a well-known
21:33 high street hamburger with a posh steak.
21:36 This is the posh steak.
21:38 So actually I'll always try and defend Blues Brothers 2000
21:42 to say it's not as bad as everybody thinks.
21:44 But when you're comparing it against an iconic movie
21:46 such as the original, there is no comparison.
21:50 - And I have to ask,
21:51 'cause we started when we were looking at Wayne's World
21:53 at how you saw that on the big screen.
21:55 Is that the case with the Blues Brothers as well?
21:57 Have you ever seen this in the cinema?
21:59 - I haven't.
22:00 This is one of those films which I would love to see
22:02 on the big screen.
22:03 And again, certainly I've had many gatherings at my house
22:06 with lots of people enjoying it.
22:08 I've done a combined showing of Blues Brothers 1 and 2.
22:11 Some people had to leave after the first one.
22:13 I understand that.
22:14 - Yeah.
22:15 Is it the sort of film that you think
22:16 doesn't work for everybody?
22:17 Do you have to be in a particular sort of mindset?
22:20 Because it was made, what, over 40 years ago now.
22:22 So is there something about that that kind of works
22:24 if you get a particular aspect of pop culture?
22:27 - I think with particularly lots of films
22:31 of that kind of early to mid '80s,
22:34 they are quite Marmite.
22:35 So some people will love them, some people absolutely not.
22:40 And that's fine.
22:41 That's the wonder of film, isn't it?
22:43 That one person's Blues Brothers
22:44 can be someone else's Blues Brothers 2000.
22:47 That's fine.
22:48 And that's why programs like this,
22:50 the ability to talk about these great films
22:52 is a great thing too.
22:53 - Yeah.
22:53 And what about particular scenes,
22:55 other than the ones that you mentioned so far,
22:57 that stand out?
22:58 The sort of ones that you can go back to over again
23:00 and never fail to have it really impact you?
23:03 - Well, I think, again,
23:05 there is the scene where they're singing "Rawhide."
23:08 They end up playing that
23:09 and they've been booked into this venue,
23:11 which is not really one for the blues.
23:15 And yeah, you see the bottles flying
23:17 and they're actually singing within a caged area.
23:19 But again, the iconic scenes with all the car crashes,
23:22 I'm not a big fan of car crash movies,
23:25 but it does play quite an integral role to this.
23:27 And it is, you know, even I'll enjoy those ones for sure.
23:30 - Fantastic.
23:31 Well, thank you, Vince.
23:32 And I'm afraid that that's all the time we have for today.
23:35 Many thanks to Vince Maple for joining us
23:37 and being such a brilliant guest.
23:39 And many thanks to you all for tuning in.
23:41 Be sure to come back and join us again
23:43 at the same time next week.
23:45 Until then, that's all from us.
23:47 Goodbye.
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