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00:02 - Good evening and welcome to Kent on Climate
00:17 live on KMTV.
00:18 I'm Abbey Hook and in this show we discuss
00:20 all things related to environmental issues in the county.
00:23 How is climate change impacting Kent?
00:26 What are communities in the county doing to tackle it?
00:28 And how can you help at home?
00:30 Each week we take a deep dive into a new environmental issue
00:33 in the county and I'm joined by expert guests.
00:36 But first tonight, residents in Medway are calling
00:39 on the council to do more to tackle the problem of potholes
00:42 as temperatures plummet in the county
00:44 over the winter period.
00:46 It comes after the AA warned that October was the worst
00:48 month for pothole breakdowns in their history.
00:51 One mechanic has told KMTV that the issue will only get
00:54 worse as winters get colder.
00:57 Oliver Leder de Sacks, join me in the studio
00:59 to explain why potholes, what the connection potholes have
01:03 to the environment.
01:04 But first let's take a look at his report.
01:07 - For two days here in Gillingham,
01:08 window cleaner Roger Hogg couldn't work.
01:11 The reason, potholes.
01:14 Back in April, his van hit a hole big enough
01:16 to snap his drive shaft, causing 350 pounds of damage.
01:21 But when he put a damages claim in with Medway council,
01:24 they took until late July to respond
01:26 and then reject his claim.
01:28 For Roger, this felt like a betrayal.
01:30 - It's the Medway council responsibility to upkeep
01:34 the highway for the residents of Medway.
01:36 I felt that, you know, they haven't kept up
01:40 their responsibility to help out the residents.
01:43 Always say, you know, we're here to help
01:45 the residents of Medway.
01:46 That obviously hasn't done by keeping the highway
01:49 up to standards.
01:50 - Roger's experience here on Burnt Oak Avenue
01:53 happened many moons ago, but it's clear the problem
01:56 is still here.
01:57 Just look at this massive piece of gravel
02:00 that came from the pothole just over my shoulder.
02:03 It's clear more work needs to be done.
02:07 - Looking at that pothole over there,
02:09 that's not just a week or two hole.
02:10 That's been there for a good couple of months.
02:13 Nothing's been done about it.
02:15 - We put Roger's concerns to the leader of Medway council.
02:18 This was his response.
02:20 - I completely understand the frustrations of people
02:22 like Roger and others where they have those circumstances.
02:25 We as a new administration, we will do everything we can,
02:28 but I absolutely recognise we are inheriting
02:31 a highway system which is not particularly fit for purposes
02:35 in parts of Medway, and there's always more to be done.
02:38 - The AA reported that October was the worst month
02:40 of pothole-related breakdowns in their history,
02:43 with more than 50,000 breakdowns.
02:46 The Department for Transport has announced £12 million
02:49 to address potholes in Medway over the next 10 years,
02:53 but Medway council said a government announcement
02:55 won't fill in residents' concerns.
02:57 - We're getting £400,000 this year,
03:00 £400,000 next year, and then a vague promise
03:03 of the rest of £12 million, with no clear timeline
03:07 as to when that will be here.
03:08 So it's really difficult for highways professionals to plan
03:12 and us as elected representatives to plan the strategy ahead
03:16 if we've got no idea when that funding is coming forward.
03:19 - Agha Khan has been fixing cars in Medway for 30 years.
03:23 He says potholes will only get worse
03:25 as temperatures continue to drop.
03:27 - If you drive down any road down Medway
03:30 or anywhere around this area,
03:32 you'll be able to see quite a few potholes,
03:35 and some of them quite bad, really.
03:37 And I think coming to winter now,
03:39 it can only get worse, really,
03:41 'cause the rain will wash out some of the roads and that,
03:43 and the potholes will get bigger.
03:45 - We reached out to the Department of Transport for comment.
03:48 This was their response.
03:50 "We are investing a record amount of funding
03:53 "into tackling potholes and resurfacing roads,
03:56 "which will see highway maintenance funding
03:58 "to local authorities increase
03:59 "by around two thirds over the next decade.
04:02 "With a yellow weather warning being issued,
04:05 "this problem could get a whole lot worse."
04:08 Oliver Leeds of the SACs reporting for KMTV.
04:12 - So Oliver, are Kent's road users
04:14 just going to be seeing more and more potholes?
04:17 - Well, Abby, we've already seen the impacts
04:19 that potholes like this on Burn Oak Terrace
04:21 are having on residents around Medway.
04:24 And it does look like it's going to get worse.
04:27 I mean, to fill in a hole in your knowledge
04:29 when it comes to potholes,
04:30 they're usually formed when water sinks
04:33 into small holes in the road and freezes.
04:36 Liquids expand when they freeze, and that's what happens.
04:39 The water expands, more water comes in,
04:41 expands more, damages the road.
04:44 And this could get worse.
04:46 According to the Met Office,
04:47 the last decade was 9% wetter than 1961 to 1990.
04:52 Six of the 10 wettest years across the UK
04:56 have occurred since 1998.
04:59 Combined with balance of below average temperatures,
05:01 like we saw when temperatures dropped recently
05:04 'cause of the Arctic cold front,
05:06 this can lead to the process for potholes occurring
05:08 happening more rapidly.
05:10 Alongside more frequent heavier rainfall,
05:13 this can lead to greater soil moisture,
05:15 leading to the ground soil sagging beneath the road,
05:18 leading to potentially structural integrity being lost.
05:22 With the UK getting more erratic weather,
05:24 it wouldn't be much to assume
05:27 that potholes could be getting worse here in the county.
05:30 - And very similar to the issue Sophia reported on
05:33 just yesterday, with a big sinkhole
05:35 appearing in Maidstone too.
05:36 So it seems to be a common problem in the county
05:39 and one the local council will be looking to solve quickly.
05:42 Oliver, thank you for those details.
05:45 And now, do you want to stay warm this Christmas
05:47 while staying environmentally conscious too?
05:50 Well, Romney Marsh wool may just have you covered.
05:53 The business started back in 2008
05:55 and it produces renewable and sustainable wool
05:58 from their farm right here in the county.
06:00 Well, here to talk a little bit more about it
06:01 is the co-founder, Christina Borden.
06:03 Christina, thank you very much for joining us.
06:05 You joined us in Kent tonight.
06:08 We had a whistle-stop tour of your business,
06:10 but now we've got all of your produce out on display here.
06:13 And it's actually incredible to see
06:15 how much you can create from wool.
06:18 So take us through it.
06:19 You have, Sadekha, you have some sort of
06:20 Christmas decorations here that we were talking about
06:23 that you can felt with, some wool of course.
06:26 And then you also have hand and body lotion.
06:28 How does that happen?
06:29 - So yeah, most people always associate wool
06:32 with just a woolly jumper or yarn,
06:35 but actually so much more,
06:36 because you actually do have sheep-produced lanolin,
06:39 which is the natural oil in the wool,
06:42 and it's what waterproofs them.
06:44 Now, interestingly, with lanolin,
06:46 it is actually one of the closest matches to our skin tone.
06:49 And what it does, it hydrates,
06:51 but it also barriers our skin.
06:53 And this is one of the reasons they always say
06:55 that sheep shearers and spinners
06:58 have incredibly soft hands
07:00 because they're working with that wool.
07:02 And then you extract that oil during the washing process.
07:07 And after that, you're left with a wool
07:11 that's got no lanolin, but that is nice and clean.
07:14 So if you look at the raw fibres here,
07:17 for example, you can feel the oil in the raw wool.
07:21 And then once it's been washed and effectively combed,
07:25 you've got this incredibly clean fibre.
07:29 Now, the actual wool is very clever
07:33 in the fact that it will,
07:35 if you look at it under a microscope,
07:39 it's got scales.
07:41 And so when you actually pull and tease the fibre,
07:45 those scales interlock.
07:47 It's a bit like when you felt
07:49 and you get the interlocking of the fibres.
07:52 And effectively, when you spin and then re-twist it,
07:56 it's how you create the yarn.
07:58 And then from the yarn, you can obviously,
08:01 you can knit or you can weave with it
08:04 and produce a whole array of different products
08:08 from the wool itself.
08:09 - Amazing.
08:10 And the sheep you have there,
08:11 they're native to the Romney Marsh as well.
08:13 That's a really key thing about keeping sort of this
08:15 circular and sustainable produce going.
08:17 - Absolutely.
08:18 So the Romneys are indigenous to the marsh.
08:21 They date right back to about the 13th century.
08:24 And they're incredibly hardy.
08:27 If you think about the marsh,
08:28 it can be a beautiful, sunny place,
08:32 but it can also be extreme in the fact
08:34 that you can have the rain that drives sideways.
08:37 And of course, the sheep are wonderful
08:40 in the fact that they're out there,
08:41 they're managing the landscape.
08:43 They've got this incredible lustrous fleece
08:46 that basically keeps them warm and dry
08:48 with the land linen in it as well.
08:50 But one of the things I think a lot of people don't realise
08:52 is the sheep are really important for our landscape
08:55 because they say they're grazing clover-rich pastures,
08:58 but actually their fleeces are also drawing in CO2.
09:02 So they're very good for the environment.
09:04 And naturally, they're putting goodness
09:06 back into the fields as well.
09:07 - I suppose it's that difference from cows
09:09 that are infamous for being bad for the environment
09:13 with methane.
09:14 So I suppose it's dispelling some of those misconceptions.
09:17 Is that quite important?
09:18 - It is.
09:19 I think it's just all about understanding nature
09:21 and the countryside a little bit more.
09:23 And actually, as I say,
09:24 sheep are really good for our environment.
09:28 - And talking about the scale of the operation,
09:29 we can see on the screen now.
09:31 Explain to us what's going on there
09:33 'cause I'm not even gonna start to try and guess.
09:35 Tell us what that process is.
09:36 - Okay, so that's at one of our mills.
09:39 And this is where I say
09:41 they will actually take that raw fleece.
09:44 And the first thing they'll do is they'll wash it.
09:46 And then once it's washed, it goes through a carding machine
09:50 which effectively is like having two brushes
09:53 where you're combing in two opposite directions.
09:55 That gets rid of a lot of the organic matter
09:57 and it aligns the fibres.
09:59 And then after that, I think on the actual video,
10:03 you had a chopper that got it into wool balls.
10:08 So those wool balls you can then use for stuffing.
10:11 Wool, as I say, has just got so many benefits.
10:16 Because of the scales, it's naturally hypoallergenic.
10:18 So anyone that basically suffers from allergies,
10:21 wool is incredibly good to have in your home.
10:24 It's also a natural fire retardant as well.
10:27 So again, another benefit.
10:30 The scales also, when you put wool against your skin,
10:33 they kind of open up pockets
10:34 and they trap little bubble heats
10:36 and that's what warms you up.
10:37 But adversely, the fibres can also cool you down
10:41 because it draws about 30% of its own moisture.
10:44 So it can do this temperature control.
10:46 And that's why a lot of people are now starting to use it
10:49 even in like packaging as well for food.
10:51 - It's incredible to think
10:53 something that's been around for so long.
10:55 Your farm dates back, what was it, 140 years?
10:58 - 140 years.
10:59 - And to think that something that dates back 140 years,
11:03 we're only just now, we've gone through those phases
11:06 of actually going through, I suppose,
11:08 technology advancements and going,
11:10 actually, this works really well.
11:12 - I know.
11:13 I think it's one of those things,
11:14 it's always been around,
11:15 but it's been forgotten a little bit.
11:17 And I mean, if you look throughout history,
11:19 wool's always been there.
11:21 But then of course, man-made fibres became attainable
11:23 and it was much cheaper.
11:24 But at the time, nobody realised
11:26 that actually it's not very good for us.
11:29 And it was really damaging for the environment as well.
11:32 And by just looking back at those sort of ancient materials
11:36 we've always had, it's such an amazing alternative.
11:41 And really now understanding the science behind it,
11:45 it's just opened up an endless opportunity
11:49 for doing all these different products.
11:52 - Amazing, Christina.
11:53 Thank you so much for coming in
11:54 and explaining all of that.
11:55 Really incredible.
11:56 That's all we've got time for.
11:57 I'll see you in a few minutes.
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15:04 - Hello and welcome back to Kent Tonight live on KMTV.
15:11 Now, the future of an eco-unfriendly leisure centre
15:14 in Maidstone is uncertain.
15:16 That's according to an opposition borough councillor
15:18 who argues a clear decision needs to be made
15:21 following skyrocketing running costs
15:23 due to poor energy efficiency.
15:25 It comes as the council voted earlier this year
15:28 to invest two million pounds
15:29 into the short-term future of the site.
15:32 One gymnastics group says the facilities offered
15:34 at the centre are vital to their survival,
15:37 as Bartholomew Hall reports.
15:39 - Often described as Maidstone's most polluting building
15:42 due to poor energy efficiency,
15:44 the cost to run Maidstone Leisure Centre
15:46 has skyrocketed by one million pounds in the last year.
15:50 Previously, proposals have been made to build a new centre
15:53 or to carry out a major refurbishment.
15:56 Instead, the borough council has voted
15:58 to invest two million pounds to keep the site maintained.
16:02 Opposition councillor Paul Harper says a decision
16:04 needs to be made on the leisure centre's long-term future,
16:07 or the 1970s-built site may be forced to close.
16:12 - Like any building from the '70s,
16:13 it needs to be either replaced or refurbished,
16:17 and it's coming to the time
16:19 where big decisions need to be made.
16:21 I know the council says it doesn't intend closing it,
16:24 but if you don't actually decide
16:25 either to spend money to refurbish it and update it
16:29 or build a new building and replace this one,
16:32 then there has to be a danger at some point in the future,
16:36 you know, five, 10, 15 years,
16:38 that building can't remain open.
16:40 It's just beyond its life.
16:41 So decisions do need to be made
16:44 and to give assurity to the community
16:46 that we want a leisure centre in Maidstone
16:48 for the next 20, 30 years.
16:50 - Tamsin runs Dharma Gym for All,
16:52 which uses Maidstone Leisure Centre
16:54 to run its weekly trampolining sessions.
16:57 She says the leisure centre is vital
16:59 for her club to keep running.
17:01 - Well, it's one of our main venues.
17:03 We have two venues, but this is one of our main venues,
17:05 and it's one of the few venues that we've got
17:08 that have got the correct height
17:09 because we need so much height, we need minimum 10 metres,
17:12 and it's one of the few buildings that can facilitate us.
17:15 So it's kind of crucial, really.
17:17 Without that, we can't run.
17:20 - Maidstone Leisure Centre is run by contractors
17:23 on the borough's behalf.
17:24 That contract is set to expire in 2024,
17:27 but is currently in negotiations to be expanded to 2031.
17:31 Councillor Claudine Russell says the intermediate plan
17:34 is a better use of council finances
17:36 than a complete refurbishment or replacement.
17:39 - I mean, if your house is fundamentally structurally sound,
17:42 but you don't like the interior,
17:45 at the moment it's not the most up-to-date,
17:46 you don't just call in the diggers, do you?
17:48 So I think we have to be very prudent with our budget,
17:53 that we have to look at the budget in the round.
17:55 I'm hoping that people will be able to see
17:58 that the money will be spent wisely
18:00 to improve the facility that they currently use
18:02 and hopefully love, that's why they keep coming back.
18:05 So just know that there are plans going on in the background
18:09 for revitalising that facility.
18:11 We're not going to lose it.
18:12 Strategic health and wellbeing
18:14 is one of our major priorities for the borough.
18:16 - In a statement, the borough council has told us
18:19 there are no plans to close Maidstone Leisure Centre.
18:21 As with any council facility,
18:23 its condition is regularly monitored
18:25 to ensure it is safe and fit for purpose.
18:28 A recent structural survey confirms
18:30 the building is structurally sound
18:31 and is not only being kept in good condition,
18:34 the council also agreed to invest £2 million
18:37 in improvements to the leisure centre earlier this year.
18:40 Bartholomew Hall for KMTV in Maidstone.
18:43 - Residents in Folkestone are worried
18:46 litter will pile on their streets
18:48 as council plans to cut bins.
18:51 Folkestone and Hythe District Council
18:53 currently provide more than 900 bins
18:55 across the two towns and surrounding area,
18:57 but are planning to cut back to save costs.
19:00 Proposals show bins could be cut down to 775,
19:04 which one resident says will have a knock-on effect.
19:07 The Green Party-run council say they're working hard
19:10 and that it will allow them to target the areas
19:12 that need the bins the most.
19:14 Now, to a heartwarming rescue in Deal yesterday.
19:19 Medics from the British Divers Marine Life Rescue
19:22 were called out to save a newborn seal
19:24 who was just a few days old
19:26 when he was found on a beach earlier on Tuesday.
19:29 The white coat pup was found with a damaged flipper
19:33 and was too skinny to survive alone, but there he is.
19:36 The seal has now been taken to Mallee Dams Woods RSPCA
19:41 for treatment and recovery over the festive season.
19:44 Well, we hope he gets better very soon.
19:46 And from string and bows to glue and sparkles,
19:49 a lot of paper and plastic is used at Christmas,
19:52 but how much of it is wasted?
19:54 Well, if you take all the wrapping paper
19:56 that ends up in the bin and lay it out,
19:58 it would stretch to nearly 240,000 miles,
20:02 the distance to the moon.
20:04 And to stick it all down, 40 million rolls of sellotape
20:07 are used to wrap presents each year in the UK.
20:09 Well, Sophia Akin has been finding a way
20:11 to stay sustainable and feel festive at the same time.
20:15 Christmas has certainly made its way to Kent,
20:17 with shoppers lining the streets,
20:19 getting their last-minute shopping done.
20:21 But just how sustainably are they wrapping their gifts?
20:24 UK consumers use approximately 227,000 miles
20:28 of wrapping paper each year, and often this isn't recyclable,
20:32 contributing more than 100,000 tonnes of plastic packaging
20:36 to landfills rather than being recycled.
20:38 Well, we're just a few days away from Christmas now,
20:41 but I bet there are still a few
20:42 that haven't wrapped their Christmas presents yet.
20:44 I know I certainly haven't.
20:46 So I'm going to go and take a look in Chatham High Street
20:48 and see if there's a way I can wrap my presents this year
20:51 in a sustainable way.
20:53 Now, I discovered there are many more
20:54 sustainable wrapping options than I might have thought,
20:57 and most of the recyclable wrapping paper,
20:59 ribbons and bows, I actually prefer
21:02 to the non-recyclable products.
21:04 Just better for the environment,
21:06 easier to recycle and make more stuff.
21:08 Have you found that quite a lot of people
21:10 are using environmentally friendly?
21:12 Yeah, definitely.
21:13 They're all asking for it, and if they don't,
21:15 if it has the plastic on, some people are like,
21:17 "No, I'm not going to buy them."
21:19 So I've got not one, but two bags of gift wrap,
21:22 sellotape, bows, ribbons to show members of the public,
21:25 and I'm going to ask if they can tell the difference.
21:27 Which ones are recyclable and which ones aren't recyclable?
21:30 Have you finished your Christmas shopping
21:31 and have you done your wrapping of the presents yet?
21:34 Yeah, I finished my Christmas shopping.
21:36 I got a lot of things, a lot of goodies,
21:38 and you can use wrapping paper as long as you like.
21:41 You can use it for next year, the whole pack.
21:44 I have used bags that people gave me gifts in last year,
21:48 so I actually haven't bought any wrapping paper myself.
21:51 Which one's recyclable, which one isn't?
21:53 I would say that one's recyclable.
21:56 You're right.
21:57 This one is the recyclable one.
21:58 And which do you think is nicer?
22:01 That one.
22:02 That one's nicer, isn't it?
22:03 I think that's nicer.
22:04 And you can see, this one is a little bit more expensive,
22:07 but it's only about 30p more expensive.
22:10 So we have two different kinds of bows here.
22:13 Which do you think is recyclable,
22:14 which do you think isn't recyclable?
22:16 I'm gonna say that one's recyclable.
22:18 I'll say that one.
22:19 This one?
22:19 Yeah, I'm gonna say that one.
22:20 So it's actually this one that isn't recyclable.
22:23 As you can see, it's quite sparkly.
22:24 It's already getting all over my hands.
22:26 And this one's actually recyclable.
22:28 Which do you think is recyclable?
22:29 The Peppa Pig one.
22:30 Which do you think is recyclable?
22:32 Yeah?
22:33 Well, these are actually both recyclable, which is good.
22:35 Are you a Peppa Pig fan?
22:37 Do you wanna take this one home today?
22:39 Yeah?
22:40 Yay!
22:41 There you go, you can wrap your Christmas presents in that.
22:42 Can you tell out of these which is recyclable
22:45 and which isn't?
22:45 Oh yeah, they'd be recyclable, wouldn't they?
22:47 I think.
22:48 What do you think?
22:50 I don't think that is, but that might be,
22:52 but I'm not sure with it being tape.
22:54 So this one isn't recyclable.
22:56 This one actually is recyclable, which is good.
22:59 Now, I haven't finished all my Christmas shopping,
23:02 so I thought I'd put it to the test
23:03 and see how the wrapping items compare.
23:06 Well, in my opinion, the recyclable wrapping paper
23:08 actually looked better,
23:10 but it's safe to say the one wrapped
23:11 in non-recyclable paper went down pretty well too.
23:15 The items that perhaps aren't recyclable
23:17 can be reused each year instead.
23:19 The bows, ribbon, even the paper.
23:22 So why don't you give it a go yourself this year?
23:24 Sophia Akin for KMTV.
23:26 Well, I've learnt one thing.
23:29 I'm definitely better at wrapping than Sophia is.
23:32 Well, as we count down to those final days
23:34 till Christmas, five to go,
23:35 are you being more mindful this festive season?
23:37 Well, Daisy Page joins me in the studio now
23:39 with some advice on small changes we can make
23:42 to help the environment.
23:43 So what are some of the tips
23:45 you've brought some things in with us?
23:46 Take us through some of the tips
23:48 to sort of feel festive, but stay sustainable.
23:52 Yeah, so one of the first things
23:53 is when you're buying presents.
23:55 So one in five presents will actually end up
23:57 in landfill this Christmas, which is a high percentage.
24:00 So when you go out shopping,
24:01 keep in mind the person you're shopping for,
24:03 but also the environment,
24:04 and that should hopefully reduce
24:06 the unwanted gifts you will be buying.
24:08 Presents also don't always have to be expensive.
24:10 I think that's one thing we forget
24:11 when it comes to Christmas time.
24:13 You can either try a handmade gift,
24:15 maybe shopping locally,
24:16 or even go into a charity shop as well.
24:19 Currently, I know there's lots of fairs around,
24:21 Christmas fairs around,
24:23 and you can find lots of unique gifts there as well.
24:25 What are some of the things people could possibly get
24:27 from a charity shop, or I suppose,
24:29 get something and then reimagine it, revamp it maybe?
24:32 Yep, so a good thing to revamp is always clothes.
24:35 You don't necessarily need to sew nowadays.
24:37 You have Wonderweb, which is a great thing.
24:39 I love it.
24:39 You just need to add a little bit of heat,
24:41 and then it's create something brand new.
24:42 And another thing is either books
24:44 or board games, and these are also great
24:47 because you can always regift them as well.
24:50 And half the time, I'm sure at home,
24:52 you probably have these in your cupboard.
24:55 So you can actually just regift them
24:56 without going out and buying them,
24:57 because I know at home I've got loads of untouched books
24:59 or untouched board games that I buy each year.
25:02 And coming from a big family myself,
25:04 this has also helped me keep the expenses down
25:06 over the years too.
25:07 We spoke to some people earlier this week on Kent Tonight,
25:10 and we asked people in the high street
25:12 if they would buy something secondhand,
25:14 and the majority of them did say yes.
25:16 So I think it's becoming more of sort of a trend.
25:19 Take us through some of the things you've brought in,
25:22 because this isn't wrapping paper.
25:24 No, so it is not wrapping paper.
25:26 It's in fact a tea towel.
25:27 And whilst we've got wrapping paper here,
25:29 so around, as we heard previously,
25:32 240 miles of wrapping paper is wasted each year.
25:36 So instead of going for the plasticky looking paper,
25:40 which is actually a plastic foil that can't be recycled,
25:42 either go for like a brown paper like this,
25:44 or tea towel and scarf.
25:45 You can get loads of them in nice patterns,
25:47 like this one's got penguins on.
25:49 And it also adds as a nice added gift too,
25:51 which is always great fun.
25:52 Yeah, except a tea towel, wrap a bit of string around it,
25:54 or sort of the ribbon that you've got there.
25:56 Yeah.
25:57 And then it's a perfect, I haven't thought of that before.
25:59 That's a really good idea.
26:00 And then tree decorations, very quickly.
26:03 You've got a little ornament there,
26:04 but also these sort of paper baubles.
26:06 Very quickly, explain those to us.
26:08 So paper baubles, these I will keep every year.
26:11 I think everyone's got a box that they drag out the attic.
26:14 And a good thing to do is buy things
26:16 with a nice memory to them,
26:17 so when you're getting them out,
26:18 you can just re-put them up.
26:20 And another thing is look at LED lights,
26:22 because these can save up to 90% less energy as well.
26:26 Amazing, thank you for the tips, Daisy,
26:28 and for keeping us sustainable this Christmas as well.
26:31 A few days to go yet.
26:32 I'm sure people are running around
26:34 and finishing off wrapping their presents.
26:35 I know I am.
26:36 But better than Sophia did hers.
26:38 I might do that with a tea towel.
26:40 Daisy, thank you very much.
26:41 Well, that's all we've got time for
26:42 on this week's episode of Kent on Climate.
26:45 Have a wonderful Christmas.
26:47 See you again soon, bye-bye.
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