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Em entrevista ao podcast "Fala AE" o jornalista e apresentar Péricles Souza relembrou momentos marcantes enquanto atuava como reporter mais próximos dos clubes. Desde histórias engraçadas como entrevistas em vestiário com jogadores nus, até histórias tristes, como o falecimento de Beteto de Freitas.

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00:00 Wait, now you, I'm not calling you old, just a little more experienced than me.
00:05 You come from a time when journalists had much more access to players, to the field, to the locker room door.
00:13 I've already caught a time when we don't have that freedom to access all places, the Minas, the training center.
00:23 Have you ever had a situation like that? A curious one? In that sense, to have to catch a player in an unusual situation, in the locker room, people taking a shower.
00:36 I've been interviewing Badalo.
00:38 Have you ever eaten?
00:40 No, I haven't eaten.
00:42 Ailton, for example, asked me if I was going to give an interview. I said yes, and then he turned his back to me.
00:50 Tell us about that.
00:52 It was really cool. Serginho Araújo, for example.
00:55 Serginho was here recently.
00:57 We were friends as players. Nothing that interfered with our day-to-day life.
01:01 But if you stopped to drink some water, you could interview.
01:06 So, the coach, when you were a bit desperate, would come to the coach and say, "I have to do an interview. Wait, I'll open a window for you."
01:13 You would stop training, you would go there and interview.
01:16 "Who do you want to interview?" "That guy."
01:18 "You can leave. Dida, you can leave and give an interview. Then you can come back to train. I'll train with someone else here."
01:24 It was really cool for everyone.
01:27 It was a differential.
01:29 It was like I said at the beginning.
01:31 You did three interviews in three clubs.
01:33 On the same day.
01:34 Yes, at the same time. You could do everything.
01:36 It was really interesting.
01:38 When we already had the advisory part, because the advisory starts to limit.
01:45 The press advisory, the press facilitator.
01:47 In some cases.
01:49 Yes, in some cases.
01:50 It depends on the team's moment. It depends on a lot of things.
01:52 You must remember this case. Diogo Mucuri.
01:54 I remember Diogo.
01:56 We were at the crossroads. Me and Gilmar Alves.
01:59 Tonhão.
02:01 We arrived at the CT.
02:03 We positioned the camera. Diogo passed by us, greeted us, played with me, played with Tonhão.
02:07 He left. I said, "Gilmar, take a picture of him for me."
02:11 And Gilmar took a picture of him, who was the first to enter the field.
02:14 Poof! The guy fell.
02:16 I said, "Wait a minute. The guy fell. What's going on?"
02:19 I wasn't going to enter the field, but he fell on the edge.
02:23 Some players were coming. He fell and ran.
02:26 Then Marconi Barbosa came, the press adviser.
02:29 Or the American Star.
02:31 It's good you didn't film it. It was Marconi.
02:33 There are only people here.
02:35 As a document for you.
02:37 I ran out to call Dr. Tassilio.
02:39 Is it Tassilio? I think it was Tassilio.
02:41 I called him. He wasn't the doctor at the time.
02:43 I went out to get the doctor.
02:45 The doctor came. There was all that confusion.
02:48 Do you know who was at the CT, following the training?
02:51 Who was it?
02:52 The father of Diogo Mucuri.
02:54 He got up. Marconi said, "That's his father. Talk to him, please.
02:59 Otherwise, he'll go crazy."
03:01 I got there and asked, "Mr. Noé, how are you?"
03:04 "I'm fine."
03:05 "What happened?"
03:06 "A player fell, but he's fine."
03:08 "Is there anything?"
03:09 "Who is it?"
03:10 "I don't know. I think it's one of those less expressive ones."
03:13 He didn't get the subject.
03:15 I called Samu.
03:17 That's crazy.
03:19 I called the firefighter. Samu showed up.
03:23 I don't remember the name now.
03:25 I think there's a connection with other stations.
03:28 It's a source.
03:30 He ran and ran. I held Marconi.
03:32 Marconi helped me. The doctor helped me.
03:35 At a certain point, the ambulance arrived.
03:38 When the ambulance arrived, it was fast.
03:40 "Everyone, touch the player. He's not well."
03:43 When the ambulance arrived, he got up and saw that it was his son.
03:47 It was harder to control.
03:49 To hold Mr. Noé.
03:51 "It's Diogo. Let him in."
03:53 He went in, put the stretcher on, and took us with him.
03:57 I followed this case closely.
03:59 It was exclusively us.
04:01 There were only us there.
04:02 Diogo had a heart problem.
04:04 He stopped playing football.
04:06 My wife's uncle lived in Mucuri.
04:09 His name is Diogo Mucuri.
04:11 He's from Mucuri.
04:13 I went to the Mucuri series.
04:15 Mucuri Bahia?
04:17 Yes, there's Mucuri Bahia.
04:19 Next to Nova Viçosa.
04:21 I was a friend of him.
04:24 We remembered each other.
04:26 Does he live there today?
04:27 I don't know.
04:28 I don't know how Mr. Noé is doing.
04:30 Mr. Noé was a very funny guy.
04:32 You have to see it.
04:33 But it's good that in the end everything worked out.
04:35 He was making jokes.
04:37 Like us.
04:38 We're a little scared in the newsroom.
04:40 In our jokes.
04:42 We're the ones who save the newsroom.
04:45 We call the loudest when there's a problem.
04:47 But it's good that everything worked out in Diogo's case.
04:50 It wasn't as tragic as Serginho's situation.
04:54 São Caetano, for example.
04:56 Yes.
04:57 From then on, the tension with the defibrillator changed the story.
05:02 It helped a lot.
05:04 This was a very remarkable case.
05:06 It was a case that really moved me.
05:09 It was very cool.
05:10 It was a case that really moved me.
05:12 I think it's a big challenge for us not to focus only on the professional side
05:20 and forget the human side.
05:22 We have to have this concern.
05:24 You had this concern with Diogo's father.
05:26 We can't take away the sensitivity.
05:30 Take away the sensitivity and say, "From now on, I'm just a professional."
05:33 It's impossible.
05:34 When I got the phone...
05:35 Journalists have to have this vision.
05:37 When I got the phone, I called Leo.
05:39 I said, "Leo, we have an exclusive here.
05:41 Diogo died."
05:43 Because, Lauro, imagine a leaf...
05:45 Did you think he was dead?
05:46 I thought he was dead.
05:47 I said, "Diogo died."
05:48 Because they gave him that shock.
05:49 He looked like a leaf.
05:50 He did this.
05:51 I said, "Damn, Pepe."
05:53 Then there was also the one from Atlético.
05:56 Adilson.
05:58 No, the one who died at CT.
06:00 It's Bruno, right?
06:02 No, you're talking about Bebeto.
06:05 Bebeto.
06:06 Bebeto Freitas.
06:07 Bebeto, man.
06:09 We were there.
06:11 And, Lauro, it's an impressive thing.
06:14 For you who are at home, listening to me...
06:16 But Bebeto wasn't in front of the press.
06:19 It was in the hotel, up there, if I'm not mistaken.
06:21 But that's where it is.
06:23 And what I'm going to say now.
06:24 It's important to have a good relationship with your work.
06:28 The whole press was there when the news came out that someone had been ill.
06:33 The guy who was in the office, we had a little soda,
06:37 he had a snack for us.
06:39 He ran out.
06:41 I knew him very well.
06:42 We talked.
06:43 He ran out.
06:44 He got a stretcher.
06:46 He ran, ran, ran.
06:48 Suddenly, he came back.
06:50 He stopped.
06:52 Then I got to him.
06:54 He ran out of here.
06:55 What happened?
06:56 Do you know who told me?
06:58 "Bebeto Freitas just died."
07:00 I said, "What do you mean?"
07:02 He said, "I'm not telling anyone, I'm just telling you."
07:04 He passed away.
07:05 He was lying on the floor.
07:06 The doctor came and said there was no way.
07:09 We ran there.
07:11 There was no way.
07:12 We tried to give him a massage, but he said there was no way.
07:13 He died.
07:14 How did I hear that?
07:16 I called the newsroom.
07:17 I think I talked to Leo.
07:18 "Leo, are you sure? Give me the news."
07:21 I said, "I can't give you the news that he died."
07:23 I know he died because...
07:25 It was an official confirmation.
07:26 It was an official confirmation.
07:27 I know.
07:28 The reporters were all there.
07:31 "There was Bebeto."
07:33 The helicopter came down.
07:34 When the helicopter came down, I said, "Dude, the helicopter is coming."
07:38 "No wonder."
07:39 "It's already here. I'm telling you."
07:41 He was already dead.
07:42 I think it was Rodrigo from Globo.
07:47 He was there doing the news.
07:49 "Bebeto died."
07:50 "What? How do you know?"
07:52 "I can't tell you."
07:54 "You cancel your flash. Wait a little longer. Don't say you didn't feel well."
07:57 I waited. Then the news came.
07:59 You can be careful to say you didn't feel well.
08:02 It's a very complicated situation.
08:04 Very delicate.
08:05 Without actually confirming.
08:06 But you already had the information.
08:08 It's like, you get anxious.
08:10 You don't know.
08:11 I think the big responsibility, which I see a lot of mistakes in some people,
08:17 is to be more concerned with agility than with the quality of the information.
08:23 Or with accuracy.
08:24 The internet brought this world.
08:27 A lot of mediatism.
08:28 (electronic beeping)

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