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The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Season 2 Episode 4

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00:00You scared? Don't get nervous.
00:03So high up.
00:07You're so cute.
00:09You make me so happy.
00:14I'm the luckiest guy. Set up from day one.
00:17Cameron's my boyfriend. He seriously is the best.
00:20Me and Cameron's connection is a lot different than me and my ex's
00:22because I feel like he genuinely sees me and cares for how I feel in every situation.
00:27And I'm just so grateful for him that he came into my life.
00:30This place is so cute.
00:32Soda, ice cream, shakes.
00:37That looks so good actually.
00:39Is that beer?
00:40Should I try it? First time?
00:41You should try it for the first time.
00:43I still can't believe you've never tried it once in your life.
00:45I've never tasted it.
00:46Cameron's dad is a bishop so his family is very strong in the church.
00:49Which makes him a bit conservative when it comes to certain things.
00:52I don't know. I'm not intrigued.
00:54You said you do have a freaking weed gummy.
00:56Well, I never said I would.
00:57You did.
00:58I said, like, if I'm going to try it, I'm not going to smoke.
01:01But if I was going to try it, I would do an edible and a smoky.
01:04I think we should try it.
01:06Alright, we'll see.
01:07And then you're going to get the munchies and it's so fun.
01:10Things are going really great with Cameron.
01:12I feel like our sex life is good, but I've still yet to experience an orgasm with a partner.
01:17That's something that I really want for myself, but something that's kind of ingrained in our church
01:22that you're not really supposed to enjoy sex until you're married.
01:25And I think that that put a constant shame in my head around sex in general.
01:29It's definitely something that I need to work on and work through.
01:32Dad being a bishop has so much responsibility in the church.
01:35That's just how I grew up.
01:36So much of everything that was against the church, like weed and drinking and stuff,
01:41we just never talked about it.
01:42It was just, don't do it.
01:43Or don't. Or do this. Or don't do this.
01:45I don't necessarily think Cameron's family has any hard feelings about me being in Mom Talk.
01:51But Cameron's only really dated very strong members of the church, girls that are very active.
01:56And I'm definitely the opposite of that.
01:58So maybe they have their reservations in some way.
02:00So your parents don't know that you, like, have sex and stuff?
02:04The significance of, like, having sex before you get married is obviously a big deal.
02:08So they'll figure it out eventually.
02:10Or if they ask me about it, like, I'd be open and tell them.
02:12Would you? You wouldn't, like, lie?
02:14Do you feel, like, pressure about me, like, in making me orgasm?
02:20Yeah, obviously, of course.
02:22Because it's like, well, yeah, of course I do.
02:24At this point, I'm going to die without having to live together.
02:50Bring it to your knees, baby, open and believe.
03:20Those boots are cute.
03:32Thanks.
03:34Today I'm grabbing brunch with Mikayla and Taylor, and I'm really excited to catch up.
03:36I know that Taylor has been going through a lot with her relationship with Dakota.
03:40And Mikayla has been on a journey with therapy.
03:42And so I'm really excited to get together with them and just chat.
03:44You going to take over?
03:46Yeah.
03:48Mikayla is considering everything that has happened with the Halloween party.
03:50I'm worried.
03:52Oh, my goodness, this is so nice.
03:54Maybe you should sit on the entee so that you can put him.
03:56Yeah.
04:00Thank you, Rachel.
04:02She's a name tag.
04:04Is that your new friend?
04:06Thank you, Rachel.
04:08Are you going to add her into the group chat, too?
04:10Shut up.
04:12I approve.
04:14I am, like, lagging today.
04:16Did you worry about him at all after the party?
04:18Yeah, I made sure he was okay.
04:20I was worried about that.
04:22I do worry about him.
04:24Obviously when you have a past like that, that's like life or death for people.
04:26So it's like I checked up on him.
04:28That's good.
04:30Since the Halloween party, Brandon and I are cordial.
04:32But Dakota and I are currently in a fight.
04:34Things are just getting worse and worse.
04:36And honestly, I do worry about Dakota's sobriety with recovering addicts.
04:38You never know.
04:40And so I think I'll always worry about that.
04:42My heart is closed at this point.
04:44But there's no question that I feel so strongly about him.
04:46I was like, you embarrassed us both.
04:48Oh, yeah.
04:50Chase, like, just pointing, like, literally so close to your face
04:52and so aggressively pointing at you,
04:54like, every husband probably would have lost it there.
04:56Well, I was like, the fact that they all saw it
04:58except you is, like, embarrassing.
05:00And Chase has done a lot more to you
05:02than he's done to any of us, too.
05:04He just, like, didn't want to hear it.
05:06But I'm like, I'm like, I don't know.
05:08I don't know.
05:10He just didn't want to hear it.
05:12But I'm like, I'm like, I'm just...
05:14I have nothing to say.
05:16There's no more words for it, honestly.
05:18I know, but you still talk, like, and fight like you're together.
05:22Yeah.
05:24It doesn't feel done unless it's, like,
05:26strictly, like, about ever.
05:28Like, hey, like, when are you picking him up?
05:30Just, like, separate and take care of your baby.
05:32I don't know.
05:34That's what I'm saying.
05:36I think you two have to work on yourselves
05:38to get this thing sort of done, to be honest.
05:40If he were to go on a date with someone, wouldn't you be pissed?
05:46If you're going on a date during all of this,
05:48you're not my person at all.
05:50Like, thank you.
05:52So you're still considering being together?
05:54I mean, I don't have, like, I just don't have words for it.
05:56I don't know.
05:58Like, I can't say, yes, I'm done with Dakota forever
06:00or I want to be with him right now.
06:02Like, I just don't, I don't know.
06:04Taylor and Dakota are in a really bad place right now.
06:06It is so toxic.
06:08It's like oil and water.
06:10I understand, like, you want to make it work
06:12with the person you have a baby with,
06:14but I just don't see it working out.
06:16I get confused.
06:18I guess what I'm saying is I'm not focusing on that.
06:20Like, I need to, I have so much work due.
06:22I have my kids to focus on.
06:24I need to be present with them.
06:26I need to go to therapy and heal, like, my inner issues
06:28because I'm also so, like, messed up.
06:30When everyone's like, let it go, let it go,
06:32or, like, do this, do that,
06:34I'm, like, fucked up.
06:36When I go into therapy, I'm like, I feel crazy
06:38because it's the same thing.
06:40And she's like, it's not crazy
06:42because you're in, like, trauma and you have PTSD,
06:44so it doesn't matter.
06:46It's going to always be there until we fix it
06:48and rewire your brain.
06:50But it is possible, though.
06:52Yes, it's just work in progress.
06:54And I'm tired of everyone being like,
06:56and we're exhausted.
06:58Well, guess what, me too.
07:00So it's going to take a while to heal it.
07:02I feel like I'm losing my sense of self-worth.
07:04I felt like my real dad
07:06not wanting anything to do with me,
07:08my guilt for the swinging scandal.
07:10It makes me feel like trash.
07:12And now Dakota kind of brought it out
07:14and exploded it,
07:16but it's deeper than Dakota and what he did.
07:18When I am betrayed,
07:20it just confirms my beliefs about myself.
07:22I feel like you guys are never on the same page,
07:24and so I feel like you're both
07:26trying to validate your feelings to each other,
07:28but you can't do it.
07:30I think Taylor and Dakota's relationship
07:32is kind of already detrimental
07:34to Taylor's health and mental well-being.
07:36He's been deceitful and lying to you
07:38and gaslighting you for the last two years.
07:40But now that she has a baby,
07:42I understand that it adds a difficult dynamic.
07:44I just want her to be healthy,
07:46and I want her to have a healthy relationship.
07:48We were supposed to have therapy on Monday together,
07:50but I don't know if he'll show up.
07:52I'm going because she's my, like,
07:54psychiatrist regardless.
07:56But if he was supposed to be there,
07:58I don't know if he'll come, but I don't...
08:00I'll be there regardless.
08:02I don't know.
08:04All right, we can talk about something else.
08:06Yeah, well, expect...
08:08Ew! Nothing!
08:10What is that on my head?
08:12Get it out!
08:14Oh, my gosh!
08:16Well, it, like, is stuck to my head.
08:18Anyways...
08:20How are your marriages, guys?
08:22Perfect?
08:24No one's marriage is perfect.
08:26I forgot to tell you guys.
08:28I need to pull this up, actually.
08:30A few months ago, I got, like, two confessions
08:32on Sinner Sunday.
08:34Do you have PTSD?
08:36Well, I always get ones about you,
08:38but this is not what I'm talking about.
08:40But it said I slept with Denise's husband last year
08:42while she was away.
08:44Sinner Sunday is something
08:46that I started a couple years ago
08:48where I just wanted to have a little bit of fun.
08:50I have people write in anonymous confessions,
08:52and they're usually really juicy,
08:54and I put them on the story of that page for everyone to see.
08:56Yeah, that's not true.
08:58To me, it doesn't go a day away from Brett, so...
09:00Besides the girls' trip we did in June.
09:02Nothing would surprise me anymore.
09:04We have learned there is truth
09:06to the confessions on Sinner Sunday.
09:08There are.
09:10With the Dakota and Taylor situation,
09:12a lot of things ended up coming out that were true.
09:14Demi and Brett might have cracks
09:16that they don't share with everybody.
09:18No relationship is perfect.
09:20We can talk about Jen and Zach.
09:22We don't know.
09:24They were doing their trial living,
09:26and I talked to Jen, and she's like,
09:28oh my gosh, we're so much better.
09:30No, he's totally allowing me to be myself.
09:32Allowing you to be yourself.
09:34He's allowing me.
09:36I'm like, how thoughtful of him.
09:38He's grown so much.
09:40Uh-huh.
09:42♪
09:44♪
09:46♪
09:48♪
09:50Finding out
09:52that I'm pregnant was very stressful.
09:54I don't want to tell anyone
09:56that I'm pregnant just because
09:58there's still tension in the air.
10:00What's hard for me is
10:02Zach left med school
10:04so I can be part of mom talk.
10:06It's been very hard
10:08to talk to the girls
10:10about everything that I'm going through,
10:12and so it's been nice having Miranda.
10:14She's the only person right now
10:16that has validated me.
10:18Go outside and wait.
10:20Are they heading to
10:22Chase's?
10:24She's so cute.
10:26Is that hard?
10:28Like, co-parenting?
10:30It's definitely difficult,
10:32but there hasn't been a day
10:34where I've felt like it wasn't the right decision.
10:36Really?
10:38It hasn't been easy, but it's been easier
10:40than staying married was.
10:42♪
10:44When did it hit you
10:46that it was time to, like...
10:48Split?
10:50Yeah.
10:52I can't remember if it was an argument we had or something,
10:54and I was just like,
10:56I'm done.
10:58And then I just...
11:00It literally was like a switch flipped in my brain.
11:02And then I just remember feeling
11:04so much more calm.
11:06Yeah, I'm very much...
11:08Like, I'm so much happier now.
11:10But I was going to ask how you're doing.
11:12Oh, my gosh.
11:14It's okay right now.
11:16I'm, like, trying, like...
11:20So hard not to, like...
11:22I'm sorry.
11:24I hate crying.
11:26Don't be sorry.
11:28Don't be sorry.
11:30I'm so sorry.
11:32I just...
11:34Generally feel, like,
11:36so alone right now.
11:38My marriage and where I'm at
11:40with all the girls.
11:42I feel for Jen.
11:44I've been there,
11:46and it is rough.
11:48All of the things
11:50that Jen has gone through
11:52and where she's at now,
11:54I think she's kind of...
11:56She's hitting a breaking point.
11:58The more she opens up,
12:00the more I'm realizing
12:02that maybe she's not receiving
12:04the support that she needs.
12:06In mom talk right now,
12:08with Zach, I think there are some
12:10red flags for sure.
12:12And, yeah, it might be best for her to go.
12:14But if she doesn't feel like it's the best
12:16thing for her, she needs to be
12:18supported in that journey.
12:20I just feel like these girls,
12:22specifically Demi and Jessie,
12:24continue to put me in these, like, uncomfortable
12:26situations, and if I do struggle
12:28in my relationship, I feel like I can't
12:30go to them because I feel like
12:32they already have this, like, narrative in their head.
12:34It's like, well, I already told you you should leave him.
12:36Yeah, no, exactly.
12:38You being a part of, like,
12:40mom talk, but also I know it's
12:42like really, really hard for Zach, and I feel like
12:44it's hurting our marriage.
12:46You should not have to feel like that.
12:48I'm very
12:50worried and stressed out because
12:52bringing in another human
12:54into this life
12:56is
12:58a lot. I feel like
13:00I'm definitely
13:02in the midst of
13:04spiritual warfare, where
13:06I'm just doubting everything,
13:08and I feel like lost.
13:10I'm not sure if I want
13:12to be in the marriage anymore,
13:14and I definitely think
13:16that it is
13:18a wake-up call for me to really
13:20figure out what I want
13:22for this baby.
13:24What's really conflicting right now is
13:26since
13:28Vegas and everything, I feel like I've
13:30distanced myself from,
13:32like, church.
13:34I feel like I've kind of, like,
13:36also distanced myself from God,
13:38and it's made it, like,
13:40really hard for me
13:42to, like, know what's best for me,
13:44and
13:46it's just hard
13:48because, like, my relationship with God
13:50is, like, everything,
13:52and I, like, feel like He's, like,
13:54quiet right now.
13:56I'm just, like,
13:58praying to God. I'm, like,
14:00just lead me to, like, what I need to do.
14:02Like, I want to do what's best for me
14:04and my kids.
14:06And, like, my marriage.
14:10In order to have this
14:12child right now,
14:14there's a lot of things I know I need to
14:16work through. I don't even know what I
14:18believe in
14:20and what I'm...
14:24what my
14:26current
14:28purpose is.
14:32Suspect only carries credit cards as a cheap style bottom.
14:34Suspect is
14:36looking for a girl half his age.
14:40There he is.
14:42What's up, boys?
14:44Yeah. Oh, wait, Brett, don't.
14:46Hold on.
14:52Brett, that's where the balls come out.
14:54Oh, I'm so reminds me of
14:56your father.
14:58Yeah, my father's
15:00Brett, that's where the balls come out.
15:01OK.
15:02OK.
15:08You guys are still young enough, you don't need a stretch, huh?
15:12So today I invited Jordan and Brett to go golfing.
15:15Just wanted to talk to them after what
15:17happened at the Halloween party, and kind
15:19of the role in the Chippendales dancing,
15:22and just confront them for what happened.
15:27Should we do a little long drive?
15:29Yeah, you guys want to do some betting?
15:31I'm just kidding.
15:33Hey, too soon, man.
15:36I hate to interrupt the golfing.
15:39I did want to come here today and just talk
15:41to you guys about some stuff.
15:42Yeah.
15:43I just wanted to talk to you guys about the Halloween
15:45situation.
15:46I've already sat down with Demi and Jesse,
15:48and I kind of told them where I was at with respecting
15:51our relationship.
15:52And they've chosen not to, but that is what it is.
15:55I have hope that moving forward, I
15:57can have a good relationship with these guys.
15:59At the end of the day, I have nothing against them.
16:01I think they're great guys.
16:03I think they're great husbands.
16:04I know you guys didn't have any bad intent,
16:07but I still think it was a little bit disrespectful,
16:10but mostly just insensitive.
16:12Man to man, if you guys did respect me,
16:15or you guys did support my relationship,
16:17you guys could have let me know.
16:21Jordan, I feel like we're pretty close.
16:23And I feel like Brett, I've expressed to you
16:26that I look up to you.
16:27I mean, clearly, you guys knew.
16:29It's not like it just slipped your mind.
16:32I'm super traditional.
16:33It's just who I am.
16:3510 minutes earlier, you guys were both out
16:37almost physically assaulting someone over them physically
16:41assaulting his wife.
16:42Yeah, for sure.
16:43And I stand by that.
16:45I'll never walk away from that in my entire life,
16:47because the way I was raised is you don't ever
16:49put a hand on a woman.
16:50You just did the same thing right after.
16:52So hear me out.
16:53I didn't touch Jen.
16:56OK, if you want to be petty, I can be petty with you.
16:58I'm doing this in a respectful way.
17:00I watched the whole situation.
17:02What Chase did is he went up to me
17:03and touched her without consent in a condescending way.
17:06What you guys did was touch my wife without consent
17:09in a condescending way.
17:10Same thing.
17:14The thing that I have a tough time with
17:16is that Jen was warned what the whole bit was.
17:21And she was also told that you could be included,
17:24and she didn't choose to tell you that.
17:26And honestly, there needs to be accountability on Jen's end
17:29for not putting you in the know, because it was said
17:31that there was going to be surprises.
17:36That doesn't mean that I shouldn't have reached out
17:38and definitely try to include you or invite you into that.
17:41I agree with that.
17:42I was under the impression that you were in the know.
17:44That is something Jen and I have to hash out.
17:46And if it later comes out that she didn't tell me the truth,
17:49that's going to suck.
17:50Jen has, again, sworn on our children's life.
17:53This is her story.
17:54I'm going to have to believe her,
17:56and I'm going to let her hash that out with Jesse and Demi.
17:58And whatever comes out or if it doesn't, it is what it is.
18:01I just wanted to come to you guys
18:02because I still would have wished you guys would have told
18:05me I talked to you that morning.
18:07This all comes down to two things, intent
18:10and communication.
18:12At the center of it, Jen might be
18:14a little bit of a moving target, depending upon the situation
18:19and how she might be feeling and how she might be feeling.
18:21You might react at certain times.
18:24Her message might change a little bit.
18:25There may be some nuances that change a little bit.
18:27So I'm just asking you to be open to that.
18:29Yeah, yeah, yeah.
18:30And not draw such hard lines.
18:32And he said this, she said this.
18:34This is definitive because there is a lot of moving nuance.
18:36Nothing's definitive, and it's going to be in the gray area.
18:38And I'm just trying to handle it the best I can
18:40and still show up for my wife and be a good husband.
18:43Because I'm telling you, man to man,
18:44had I thought for even one millisecond
18:47that this was going to cause any kind of issue
18:49whatsoever in your marriage, it never would have happened.
18:53Jen and I have been through a ton in this last year.
18:56A lot of these tough situations could
18:58have been avoided through maybe better understanding on my part,
19:02but maybe a little bit more honest and straightforward
19:05communication on Jen's part.
19:07But as far as fighting for our marriage,
19:09absolutely, there's no question that it's worth fighting for.
19:12And I think we're putting in the work,
19:14and it's just going to be a long process.
19:16At the end of the day, I'd love to continue to golf, have fun.
19:19We'd love to have you come to the dad talk stuff.
19:22Yeah.
19:22Can I hear you?
19:23Yeah.
19:27Bring it in.
19:27So should we get back to hitting some golf balls after that?
19:30I'm going to have to re-stretch.
19:44I think I have everything.
19:46Shut the door here.
19:47I can't.
19:54The last couple of weeks have been really hard,
19:56but I'm just thankful that Dakota
19:58came to our therapy session.
19:59It was a lot about the Halloween party
20:01because it was so triggering.
20:02When you see Chase treating me this way,
20:06that's when you step in as a man and be like,
20:08you do not talk to her that way.
20:10Back the fuck up.
20:12That's what I would want my man to do for me.
20:14I'm the mother of your child.
20:15Tell him to back the fuck up.
20:17He said one remark to one of my friends,
20:19and the husband immediately was like, you go
20:20fucking apologize to my wife.
20:22If you ever acted like you wanted anything to do with me.
20:26My ex would have defended me in that situation.
20:30OK, I know.
20:31We're gone.
20:32I feel like the last few years have actually
20:35been the hardest.
20:37I feel like I've been insecure with Dakota.
20:40Him thinking certain things and saying things.
20:42And my family saying, you didn't respect yourself.
20:44I think it just added.
20:45And ever since then, it's just been hard to pick back up
20:48and feel confident again.
20:50We had a family dinner we went to.
20:52My mom, she was like, everyone is
20:53exhausted of hearing the same things.
20:55What is going on?
20:56And my dad was like, well, I don't
20:58know why you expected better when you jumped
21:00into bed with him so fast.
21:03I feel just anger.
21:09In our therapy session, Dakota finally took a step back
21:12and was processing.
21:14And I feel like for the first time,
21:15he was not only hearing me, but he was listening to me.
21:18I don't actually have an issue with you
21:22trying to process these things and you struggling.
21:25I'm still here.
21:27I think the only thing I've ever actually wanted is forgiveness.
21:33And that's all I need to where I can actually show up for you
21:38and work on those things that you need
21:40me to show you and give you that can help you
21:45work through these things too.
21:48And I'm sorry I failed you.
21:49I really am.
21:52I do feel like we finally had this mini breakthrough.
21:55I feel like I saw the soft side of Dakota
21:57that I initially fell for.
21:59Healing is really hard because I think it gets really ugly
22:02before it gets pretty.
22:03There's so many great things I love about him and vice versa.
22:06That's why we won't let each other go
22:08because it's so good when it's good.
22:11And he's upset me.
22:13He's hurt me.
22:14But I don't think he's failed me.
22:16I think failing is when it's over and you're done trying.
22:19The whole party thing just sucks.
22:21That really hurts me because I feel like the one thing I've
22:25always actually been really good at throughout my whole life
22:28is just having people's back and I do anything.
22:33And so, yeah, I just feel like I screwed that up and that sucks.
22:43So where do we go?
22:45Where do we go from here?
23:04Laila's definitely gone through some changes
23:06from going through a divorce to getting her boobs done.
23:10But one thing that remains is that she has yet
23:12to have an orgasm with a partner.
23:15Jazzy and I kind of want to take the pressure off
23:16and maybe inform her on how to achieve that.
23:20So we thought of a cute idea to throw her a sex party.
23:23Hello.
23:24Hello.
23:25Erica?
23:26Yes.
23:27So nice to meet you.
23:28Nice to meet you as well.
23:29Do you need help?
23:30Is this heavy?
23:31No, it's great.
23:32Are you sure?
23:33Yeah.
23:34Where would you like me to put it?
23:35In this room.
23:36OK.
23:37This is where everyone will be.
23:38Awesome.
23:39I love it.
23:40It's beautiful.
23:41I think there's definitely some shame that comes along
23:42with being a member of the Church of Jesus Christ
23:43of Latter-day Saints.
23:44Unfortunately, there's a lot of shame that comes along
23:45with being a member of the Church of Jesus Christ
23:46of Latter-day Saints.
23:47And I think it's really important
23:48that we get to know each other.
23:49And I think it's really important
23:50that we get to know each other.
23:51I'm a member of the Church of Jesus Christ
23:52of Latter-day Saints.
23:53Unfortunately, sex is a very under-talked-about topic.
23:56And so I think everyone's excited to learn more
23:59and, you know, support Laila.
24:01Jesse and I found this sex expert, Erica.
24:04And I am hoping that she's able to remove the taboo around sex.
24:09Demi?
24:10This is the guest of honor.
24:12Oh, my goodness.
24:13OK.
24:14Hi.
24:15Hello.
24:16Welcome, Mama.
24:17How are you?
24:18Love, Demi.
24:19It's so cute.
24:20Erica.
24:21Hi.
24:22Nice to meet you.
24:23Nice to meet you.
24:24Introduce and give all your certifications.
24:25She's incredible.
24:26So my official title, Certified Sex and Relationship Coach
24:29and Forward Certified Clinical Sexologist.
24:31Amazing.
24:32Oh, my gosh.
24:33I'm so excited.
24:34This is all for you.
24:35I love it.
24:36Cameron wants me to feel good when we're having sex.
24:38And I do feel like the girls are being supportive right now
24:41and trying to help me feel loved and cared for.
24:43That's really something that I appreciate about this group.
24:46Having sex before I was married, getting pregnant before I was
24:49married, I just have always felt shame.
24:51It's just something that has always been kind of a cloud
24:54over my head when it comes to sex.
24:56Oh, is that a vagina?
24:57So this is a vulva.
24:58Yeah, we'll talk about this.
24:59This is a vulva puppet.
25:01She's pretty, right?
25:02She's cute.
25:03So we have a wide range of women coming tonight.
25:07OK.
25:08From very experienced, like swinging with multiple partners
25:13experience.
25:14OK.
25:15Hi.
25:16Oh, my gosh.
25:17You look so hot.
25:18Oh, my gosh.
25:19You look so hot.
25:20And then very conservative.
25:24I'm like, huddle.
25:25There's dog shit right there.
25:26Oh.
25:27Sexy.
25:28Sexy.
25:29Hello.
25:30Oh.
25:31Looks like nipples everywhere.
25:34So I walk into Demi's Remove the Taboo Party,
25:37and I'm a little shocked.
25:39There's collars, chains, whips, butt plugs, dildos.
25:43I'm like, where am I?
25:44Like, this is like a sex shop.
25:46This was like, remove the stigma of sex.
25:48Like, but this seems like a full-on orgy party.
25:52I just want to know what you guys all think
25:54is like the most shocking of all of these.
25:56I mean, like, I feel like I've seen them all.
25:58But like, ooh.
26:00However, it wouldn't be a mom talk party
26:03without some kind of drama.
26:04So I just feel something brewing in the air.
26:07Oh, my goodness.
26:09Look at you.
26:10You went all out.
26:11Like, I'm here, Taylor.
26:13I love this.
26:14Oh, my goodness.
26:16All right, someone bend over.
26:18My delivery's here.
26:20I forgot it.
26:23No!
26:24I forgot it at home.
26:25So I had to see how Jace bring it.
26:27It looks just like me.
26:28No!
26:29It's an ass.
26:30Do you know that your BFF thinks
26:33that was a mold of her ass?
26:35Is that true?
26:36Macy?
26:37Yeah.
26:38Who in mom talk has the best ass?
26:39Of course, that's me.
26:40Just genetics.
26:41She actually used my ass as inspo for her cake.
26:44Oh, please.
26:45I don't have enough cake to mold Macy's ass.
26:48What's the flavor?
26:50Ass.
26:51Funfetti?
26:52I'm just kidding.
26:53The flavor is butthole.
26:54Hello.
26:55Hello.
26:56Look at you.
26:57You look great.
26:59So do you.
27:00Hello.
27:01Because I had black hair.
27:02I had black hair.
27:03That's why my hands are literally freezing.
27:05Do you ever think you'd be back at a mom talk sex party?
27:09Oh, my gosh.
27:11No, I did not think I would ever be at a sex party with Miranda.
27:16But here we are together.
27:17Surprise.
27:18Who is the kids tonight?
27:19Oh, yeah.
27:20Dakota, dad talk?
27:21Yes.
27:22Yes, he is.
27:23Jordan's like, I'm really hoping Dakota can lead this
27:25because he's like a TikTok expert.
27:27What is he doing?
27:28They're just making TikTok.
27:29They're making TikTok.
27:30I mean, I didn't ask him much about it.
27:32Jordan's like, I don't know how to use TikTok.
27:34I'm like, ask Dakota.
27:35OK.
27:36Hang on.
27:37You're in the middle.
27:38Dakota, you're in the middle.
27:39OK.
27:40Click.
27:43So head to the left.
27:44Right.
27:45Because this is just a practice.
27:46Get ready.
27:47Ready?
27:48Click.
27:49Left.
27:50Left.
27:51Shit, left.
27:52Sorry.
27:53OK.
27:54F that.
27:55OK.
27:56Here we go.
27:57Are you guys ready?
27:58Yeah.
27:59OK.
28:00Here we go.
28:01We got this.
28:02The click.
28:03Oh, shit.
28:04Fuck.
28:05How do they get the positioning?
28:06Is it just because they're small?
28:08Here we go.
28:09Got it.
28:10OK.
28:11You're ready.
28:12Thanks, dude.
28:13Click.
28:14Click.
28:15That's it.
28:16That talk has been established.
28:17Yes!
28:18We cannot admit to the girls how hard this is.
28:19No.
28:20Never.
28:21Promise.
28:22This was the easiest I've ever had.
28:23Promise this stays here.
28:24I'm crying.
28:25We should all grab the one that looks the most like us.
28:26I also need some cheese.
28:27Oh, wow.
28:28Are you guys good now?
28:29I don't know.
28:30I don't know.
28:31I don't know.
28:32I don't know.
28:33I don't know.
28:34I don't know.
28:35I don't know.
28:36I don't know.
28:37I don't know.
28:38I don't know.
28:39I don't know.
28:40I appreciate her thanking me.
28:41I think we're to a place where our friendship is a little...
28:44Our friendship is better for me.
28:45I guess coming from my perspective, it's better.
28:47I just, like, don't have answers.
28:48Like, he isn't been, like, I haven't lived with him for, like, over a month now.
28:52Oh, I didn't know that.
28:53Yeah.
28:54Where is he?
28:55Uh, apartment.
28:56Good.
28:57Good.
28:58Is Jen here yet or no?
28:59Oh, I forgot Jen was coming.
29:00I think she should be here any minute.
29:01She better be walking in with just full lingerie.
29:04Yeah.
29:05No.
29:06No.
29:07Zach won't allow that.
29:08Is he going to go talk?
29:09No.
29:10Zach?
29:11I don't think so.
29:12Does anyone know what's going on with them?
29:13No.
29:14Have you learned?
29:15She came over a couple days ago.
29:18Um, we talked and I think she's just been...
29:22She was asking a lot of questions about my divorce.
29:24Oh.
29:25Interesting.
29:26Like, she was inquiring for herself almost?
29:29Kind of.
29:30Oh, no.
29:31Jen and I's relationship used to be really great, but now that Jen has isolated herself,
29:36we never hear from her.
29:37It's really sad to me to see how it's fallen because we did have a really close relationship
29:41at one point.
29:42Anyone know how she's feeling about the Chippendales situation?
29:44No.
29:45Did you talk to her about it?
29:46Uh-huh.
29:47Oh, what did she say?
29:48What did she say?
29:49Yeah, she wasn't, like, thrilled about it.
29:50She did say, she was like, I know that Demi, like, brought it up.
29:51She's like, I just wish that I would have known, like, the length of, like, the plan.
29:55The length?
29:56Rather than, she didn't know that there was going to be other people involved and she
29:59didn't know it was going to be people dancing on her.
30:02Yeah.
30:03It was supposed to be a surprise.
30:04Yeah.
30:06Honestly, me even giving her a heads up was just like, hey, I just want to make sure if
30:09this is off the table at all.
30:10Yeah.
30:11Like, I know this was a heavy time for you.
30:12Yeah.
30:13If it's off the table at all, and she was all for it.
30:14She was like, I love it.
30:15Yeah.
30:16That's the whole thing for her.
30:17That's incredible.
30:18She's like, that's the best idea ever.
30:19Yeah.
30:20Brett is going to come in, like, normal costume, rip it off his leg of Chippendales.
30:23I love that.
30:24And then...
30:25I can't believe Jen knew about it beforehand.
30:27I think it's absurd for Jen to now say that the prank wasn't okay, especially now that
30:30we know for a fact that she told Jesse and Demi that she was completely on board.
30:34The more I hear about Jen recently, the less I'm starting to believe anything that she
30:37says.
30:38She made it sound like it was like this great idea, so I hope she just isn't harboring more
30:43feelings because she tends to do that.
30:44And she did say that she was like, I did appreciate that Demi brought it up to me at all.
30:47I think she was just like, oh, I just wish that I would have known a little bit more
30:50extent of it.
30:52My life is definitely in chaos right now after the Chippendales prank and with Demi and Jesse
31:01interfering with mine and Zach's relationship.
31:04It's definitely caused more conflict between us and finding out that I'm pregnant as well
31:10as having a bit of a, an identity and faith crisis.
31:14I feel really lost and I'm hoping showing up tonight can show them that I'm really trying
31:23to put in that effort and hopefully there's no more drama.
31:35Let me be explicit, see this ring you want to kiss, a sip of champagne from the bottle,
31:40wanna stick my finger in it.
31:42Tomorrow's gonna be good, I swear it's gonna be good.
31:52Welcome.
31:54You know, I was considering wearing my Jermies.
31:57As much as I want to talk to Jen tonight and I do want to clear the air, I'm looking around
32:02and we've got the sex expert who has prepared a whole night for us and everyone's excited
32:07to support Layla and tonight is obviously about Layla so that conversation's unfortunately
32:12gonna have to wait.
32:13Thank you for coming everyone, you all look stunning, sexy, beautiful.
32:18I'd like to introduce you to Erica, she is a sex coach, essentially she is here to break
32:24the taboo.
32:26This remove the taboo party is a little edgy for Mormons I will say, however, Mormons are
32:31a little bit freaky, like in marriage.
32:35So there are a plethora of items over here ladies.
32:38If you've been to a sex shop, you know there's so much more available, right?
32:42Okay, hey ladies, I have a question for each one of you, so I want you each to answer this,
32:49okay?
32:50Taylor, I'm gonna start with you.
32:51What arouses you?
32:54The most?
32:56I love like a scenario in my head.
32:59Okay, so some fantasy play.
33:01Yes.
33:02Okay, that's awesome.
33:03How about for you?
33:04I like dirty talk.
33:05Dirty talk.
33:06That's nasty.
33:07I hate dirty talk.
33:08She's nasty.
33:09I know.
33:10What arouses you, Mikayla?
33:11Oh, I love massage and also smell, I feel like smell is, not like sex smell, but like
33:18deodorant and perfume.
33:19Yeah, like breath.
33:20Like the smell.
33:21So you're a sensual, you're a sensual gal.
33:23Yeah, you know, I'm on my own sexual traumas next to them.
33:27Layla, how about for you?
33:30I'm not really feeling something, I don't know.
33:33I like seeing like my partner, like connection, yeah, when like he's enjoying it, then I like
33:39enjoy it.
33:40Yeah, yeah.
33:41What about for you do you enjoy?
33:42What do you mean?
33:43Like what about it for you that has nothing to do with him?
33:46What about you like feels good?
33:47Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure.
33:51I'm like, I don't know, I don't know.
33:53I think the fact that I'm not able to answer the question on what turns me on is kind of
33:57a big revelation for me.
33:58The fact that I can't even pinpoint what makes me aroused in a situation I think is a really
34:03big red flag.
34:05I think that's honestly maybe contributing to why I'm not able to enjoy sex fully is
34:09because I don't know what I like and don't like.
34:11We're our first sexual partners.
34:13So if we're not exploring our own bodies to kind of figure out what we like, what pleases
34:18us and what doesn't, then how are we to express that to our partners, right?
34:22We're going to do a little sensation play.
34:24So if you would pair up, please.
34:27I'm at a swinger party right now.
34:29Woo!
34:30I'm kidding.
34:31So I want you to think about the most soft touch that you can give your partner and then
34:35let her give you feedback on what feels good.
34:38Okay.
34:39Do you want it harder?
34:40Softer?
34:41Whatever.
34:42Whatever.
34:43I mean, but I, sure, anything.
34:46So ladies, so what I'm doing is I'm asking Taylor if she wants it harder or softer.
34:51Ew, I hate this.
34:53I don't like this at all.
34:54Do you want to be scratched with it?
34:56Oh, I like that.
34:57Okay.
34:58So she likes to be scratched with it.
34:59Me!
35:00You guys!
35:01We would hate that.
35:02I know.
35:03This is a little too intimate.
35:04McKayla, are you ready to really bond?
35:05It's your intention.
35:06No, I don't like that.
35:07It feels like there's something crawling on my face.
35:10I think when we get in a group, I think we truly have no boundaries.
35:14I think Macy needs to work on her feathering techniques, though, because it wasn't really
35:18doing anything for me.
35:19Having to feather, feather my friend, that sounds so weird.
35:24Having to feather someone being like, how does that feel?
35:26Ew, I did not like that one bit.
35:28The one thing that happened today that I never want to think about again was definitely Miranda
35:32whipping me with a whip.
35:35It was definitely a little awkward for sure.
35:38I'm so straight, it's scary.
35:40Me too.
35:41It's scary.
35:42This is not about being straight.
35:45It's like just enjoying the feeling of it.
35:48You've kissed girls.
35:49I've never kissed a girl.
35:50Yeah, but I am so straight, too.
35:51I mean, I did not enjoy it, but it wasn't a turn on.
35:55I just did it.
35:56It was just fine because you were drunk.
35:57Okay.
35:58Yeah.
35:59Yeah.
36:00It's not that bad.
36:01I mean, Miranda's a great kisser.
36:02I've kissed a lot of girls, actually, in my life, and Miranda is a good kisser.
36:05But I do feel like Demi makes things like judgmental jokes where it's like an underlying
36:10message to you, and it's kind of like a light jab, but yeah, I do feel like she does that.
36:16Hey, so now, anyone wanting to be handcuffed with your ankles and your wrists?
36:22I'll do it, yeah.
36:23Sure.
36:24Where do you buy this?
36:25Can you buy it on Amazon?
36:26Nope.
36:27You can buy everything on Amazon.
36:28I'm like, send me the link.
36:30Didn't think the first time I was getting tied up would be from a woman, but you know.
36:34Taylor's face when she's like...
36:37I'm just learning new things.
36:39There we go.
36:40Okay.
36:41You're gonna let me know how that feels, okay?
36:43Are you close to orgasming?
36:46Are you okay if I just hit you very lightly?
36:48No.
36:49Okay.
36:50Oh.
36:51And then you're gonna tell me if you want me to go a little harder or a little softer.
36:55Give it to me, daddy.
36:57I feel like you need to be the one on here right now.
37:00Close your eyes.
37:01Close your eyes, sweetheart.
37:02Harder or softer?
37:05Harder.
37:06Harder.
37:07Do you like to be whipped?
37:08Yeah.
37:09I think something I took from the sex party is that I like it hard and rough moving forward.
37:15I'm gonna be more open about trying things in sex and experimenting and just being more
37:19open and communicating when I'm having sex.
37:22I do feel hopeful that an orgasm is around the corner.
37:25Fingers crossed that it can happen soon.
37:27Are we gonna eat the ass?
37:29Oh, yes.
37:30It's good luck.
37:33Yeah.
37:34Yeah, I like that.
37:35Oh, I like that.
37:36Sensual.
37:37Now that we've got the sex lesson out of the way, I think it's the perfect time to talk to Jen.
37:43I definitely want to talk to her about the whole Chip and Dale situation.
37:46I want to clear things up and just talk to her and figure out what went wrong.
37:49How are you and Zach?
37:51Jen?
37:52Jen?
37:53What?
37:54How are you and Zach doing?
37:55We're doing better as of right now, as of today.
37:59Good.
38:00How's it feel?
38:01Has it been like a long road?
38:02Yeah.
38:03Yeah, it's been a lot.
38:04I mean, yeah, it's been a lot.
38:07I do feel like, to me, she likes to talk a lot about projection, which is very funny
38:12because it's like when you're crying and kind of going at somebody, it's like a projection thing.
38:17So when she brings up Jen and Zach's relationship, you have to ask, like, what is it?
38:21Why do you care about theirs?
38:22I'd love to have a conversation with all of you, but I'm just trying to figure it out.
38:28Yeah.
38:29So as of right now, I'm just keeping it between Zach and I, and that's what it is.
38:35At this point, I think Jen needs to be held accountable for all of the lies that are coming out.
38:40We know that they are not related to Ben Affleck.
38:42They're putting Chippendales on me and Demi.
38:44I think her feet need to be held to the fire, and she needs to own up to what she's lied about,
38:48take accountability so we can all move on.
39:06Everybody catch my fire.
39:14Oh, look, there's little name tags.
39:16Weren't you in charge of the seating thing?
39:18This is not going to work?
39:19What's wrong?
39:20Me across from Whitney?
39:21How would that not work?
39:23My two best friends.
39:24No.
39:26Tonight, I have invited all the girls out to dinner because I have super exciting news.
39:30I got a book deal less than a year ago.
39:33I launched Baby Mama, and it was an amazing experience.
39:36And now my book is about my life story because it is very traumatic, crazy, and unconventional,
39:43especially for a Mormon.
39:44This has been a goal of mine since 2015, and I just wanted to use my voice to help other women.
39:49And what makes MomTalk great is that we have been able to inspire other women
39:52and bring them together in a form of community.
39:54And so for me, this book means so much more to me than anything that I've ever done
39:58or any goal that I've ever hit.
40:00It means the most.
40:01So I'm excited to tell the girls it's finally happening.
40:03I like to be next to me.
40:05I like Taylor here.
40:06Tensions in MomTalk have been really high.
40:09So I have to make sure that I'm seating everyone in the right spot so that a fight doesn't break out.
40:13No, don't switch with Jen.
40:14Switch Jen and Jessie.
40:16How about that?
40:17Like Taylor gets along with everyone, so.
40:19I put Macy in charge of the seating arrangements because she knows the situation
40:22and relationships with everyone, but clearly she didn't do a good enough job.
40:25So I'm taking it upon myself to fix her seating disaster.
40:31It's impossible to seat these people for some reason.
40:34Hello!
40:35How cute!
40:37It's so beautiful.
40:39This dress was it.
40:41Do we have name cards?
40:43Yes.
40:44So if you don't like where you're sitting, you better change it ASAP before people come.
40:48I'm gonna swap this real quick.
40:50Taylor and Miranda are crossing each other.
40:51And Whitney, so like they can talk.
40:53These four love each other.
40:54I invited Whitney out to dinner with all the girls to celebrate as well
40:57because I know she's been wanting to get back into MomTalk
40:59and I think having Whitney around the group more is a good test
41:02to see how she gets along with everyone in a group setting.
41:05Hi!
41:06This is so cool!
41:07I'm rooting for Whitney because I want her to like show like,
41:10yes, I've changed, I want to come in the group, I want to work on these relationships.
41:13And I think everyone deserves a second chance at the end of the day.
41:16Welcome in!
41:17Hi!
41:18Just literally three days postpartum.
41:20I truly believe that when a group of women come together like this,
41:23there's nothing more powerful.
41:25But with Whitney, we're a little nervous that she's kind of coming back around
41:28and trying to hang out with us again.
41:30I think there's a lot of us questioning her intentions.
41:32We're not sure if she's trying to be back in MomTalk for clout
41:35or if her intentions are sincere.
41:37And look at your titties, they're huge.
41:39No, seriously, like if I leave during this.
41:41They're popping out.
41:42Don't be surprised.
41:43I'm so happy to be here at Macy's dinner.
41:45I'm so happy to see that we're rekindling that relationship.
41:48I heard about Layla's Remove the Taboo party from Jen
41:51and I was a little surprised to hear that I wasn't invited.
41:55I'd like to think maybe it's because I just had baby Billy,
41:58but I think that, like, I'm just not there yet, maybe.
42:02I didn't know that I was going to be like this.
42:04This is cute.
42:06Hey, guys!
42:07Wow.
42:08I wasn't sure if I was supposed to knock or what.
42:10Hello!
42:11This place is so cute.
42:14You're welcome.
42:15Okay.
42:16You guys want to hear why we're all here?
42:18Yes!
42:19We're dying.
42:20I wanted to celebrate with you guys because I got a book deal.
42:25It's like officially, like, your publisher?
42:28Yes.
42:29So I'm super excited.
42:30I've been working on this for so long.
42:32And I feel like I'm going to shit.
42:34It means so much to you.
42:37The reason why I'm running a book.
42:40God.
42:42I don't want snot coming out of my nose.
42:44Macy, it's fine.
42:46So when I was first pregnant,
42:47I didn't know what I was doing with my life.
42:49So I came into my room, and he handed this to me.
42:51And he said, write everything down, the good, the bad, the ugly,
42:54when you're mad, when you're sad, when you hate us, when you love us,
42:57and maybe one day you can use it to help somebody else.
43:00And so I did, and I wrote, like, the darkest times of my life in here.
43:04And that was, like, one day I'm going to write a book.
43:07And so now it's happening.
43:09So, like, I feel like it's just a big full-circle moment.
43:11And so I'm just really excited
43:13because it's probably the biggest goal I've ever had.
43:16I am so excited for Macy
43:18that she has this opportunity to tell her story in a book.
43:21I know it's something she's always wanted to do.
43:24People can be like, oh, my gosh, like, I'm going through the same thing.
43:27That's, like, what we're about in Mom Talk
43:29is sharing all of your things out to the world.
43:32That is seriously so amazing.
43:35Like, that is so cool.
43:36Thank you so much.
43:37I'm really excited, as you can tell, it's emotional
43:39because it's just, like, all my trauma.
43:41No, your story is insane,
43:42and I'm excited to have your shot to, like, tell you.
43:44That is so cool.
43:45Thank you, guys.
43:46So thanks for coming and celebrating and watching me cry.
43:50Demi seems a little maybe jealous, but she's trying to hide it.
43:54Demi likes to put this up front
43:56that she's, like, this confident, put-together woman.
44:00But to be honest, I feel like she has more insecurities than anyone.
44:04And she's really good at hiding it.
44:06Can't wait to see who'll be a best-selling author, babe.
44:08That's the goal, you guys!
44:10I'm putting up my vision board, so it's gonna happen.
44:13Woo!
44:16You guys, I have something else exciting going on.
44:18I am hosting a celebrity pickleball tournament in Arizona.
44:23What does that mean?
44:24Celebrity pickleball?
44:25I guess they're inviting different, like, kind of, like, celebrities,
44:27and they're playing a pickleball tournament.
44:29That's kind of a big deal.
44:30Are you playing in it?
44:31So are we all playing?
44:32You guys should come.
44:34If you want to come.
44:36Absolutely.
44:37Girls trade!
44:38That would be fun.
44:39That'd be fun.
44:40Yeah.
44:41I am co-hosting the USA Pickleball Celebrity Match in Arizona,
44:44and I am so excited.
44:45And I thought, what a better way to get the girls together
44:48and do a little girls' trip.
44:49I'm already there.
44:50Our last girls' trip went pretty badly.
44:52A girls' trip.
44:53No boyfriend, no wife, and no husband.
44:55I did nothing wrong in this situation.
44:59So this will be a good way to do a do-over,
45:02get everyone together, and hopefully mend friendships.
45:05It's a horrible idea.
45:07Okay, you guys ready?
45:09We're playing a game.
45:11I'm confessing everything in this book,
45:14so now it's time for you guys to confess.
45:16It could be spicy, it could be about yourself,
45:18it could be something that you've held in that you've never told people,
45:20but tell us something of your truth.
45:22So it's a truth box.
45:23It's not the truth box.
45:24Do we have to guess who wrote it or no?
45:26It all could be anonymous.
45:28Oh, I bet it will.
45:29Just like the truth box was supposed to be.
45:33This is full 100% honesty tonight, okay?
45:36Honestly, yeah, a lot of what she does is trashy.
45:38Did I say that?
45:39You're being a bitch.
45:40I'm not the one that's going around trying to seduce other people's husbands.
45:43I'm just hoping that this is a little bit more lighthearted
45:46and it doesn't end in tears.
45:48Are you ready for this, Miranda?
45:49Is this my initiation?
45:50This is the initiation, exactly.
45:52Welcome to MomTalk.
45:55I feel like I'm the only one that has a brain anymore.
45:58You should have it be something that no one knows publicly.
46:01This is probably not the best idea.
46:04I mean, it could be lighthearted if you wanted it to be,
46:06but also it could stir up some stuff.
46:09So many secrets.
46:10I was just going to stir up more shit that I'm going to have to deal with.
46:15Okay, you guys ready?
46:16You start.
46:17This is your night.
46:18I am trying to get pregnant.
46:22It's Whitney or Taylor for sure.
46:23It better not be Taylor.
46:25I once had a man suck on my toes.
46:27Then I immediately left.
46:30I've had sex in five high school parking lots.
46:33Holy shit.
46:35Why would you look at me?
46:36She's like every high school I could think of.
46:38The first time I swallowed, I threw up immediately after.
46:43My favorite place to do it is in the swimming pool slash hot tub.
46:46Hashtag yummy.
46:47UTI.
46:49I'm like hashtag UTI.
46:53Oh no.
46:54I'm scared.
46:56I think Jen is fake.
47:07Maybe I'm fake.
47:08Okay, well this escalated quickly.
47:09I think the comment is either from Demi, Kayla or Layla.
47:14Where are you in Dakota right now?
47:16We're not living together.
47:17So are you guys having sex?
47:18Um...
47:20It's kind of hard to make your own self-esteem.
47:22Every time I open the internet, somebody's making blatantly explicit videos about me.
47:26If I want to make videos about you, I can do that.
47:28Because you're not my friend.
47:31Jen's my new Whitney.
47:32So it's like at what point are you just not going to look like a liar?
47:35Like it's bad.
47:36If they have an issue with me, I would like to confront them.
47:39Some things went down in Italy.
47:41She was literally playing truth or dare with a ton of single men.
47:44If you ask her about the confession that Macy got with her...