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The Shadow Defence Minister has called on the public to sign a petition to stop Northern Ireland veterans being subjected to “an endless cycle of investigations”.Speaking on GB News, Mark Francois said: “In a nutshell, Labour are trying to change the law because they say the Legacy Act is incompatible with certain parts of the sacred Human Rights Act.“So this government of human rights lawyers is trying to change the law, which would have two effects.“One, it would reopen our Northern Ireland veterans to this endless cycle of investigation and re-investigation, whilst at the same time making it easier for Gerry Adams to sue the British taxpayer.“There are politicians like me who are very annoyed about this, but the veterans who fought in Northern Ireland and other veterans are extremely annoyed, so they put together a petition.“It is up to nearly 40,000 signatures in just over four days, which is pretty good going. If it gets to 100,000 we have to debate it in Parliament. We're trying to show the Labour government the strength of feeling against doing this.“In a number of the court cases, the government could have appealed to higher courts. But because they're a government of human rights lawyers from the PM downwards, they haven't done that.“They regard paying homage to the Human Rights Act as more important than defending the soldiers who upheld the rule of law in Northern Ireland. We think that is abhorrent.“All soldiers had to operate under the rule of law. They had to comply with, in most cases, with something that was called the yellow card, which laid down when they could and could not open fire.“Of course, every soldier would believe that the law should be upheld; they were there to uphold law and order in Northern Ireland. But nearly all of these cases were investigated at the time, in some cases, 50 years ago.“Sinn Fein and their allies, who want to rewrite history, are often constantly trying to revive these cases to pursue those veterans for their own ends.“Dennis Hutchings was arrested, who subsequently died in the middle of a trial. The PSNI sent 11 officers to arrest a man in his mid 70s who was dying of cancer. I don't know what they thought he was going to do.“So the bottom line is this is two tier justice. It's one justice for our Northern Ireland veterans. It's a completely different form of justice from Gerry Adams and some of his friends who were given so called letters of comfort by Tony Blair.”Discussing the UK-EU summit next week, Francois said: “To [align with the EU] would be utterly contrary to the principles of the 2016 referendum, which said that we should take back control of our laws. The risk is not just about fish, although that is definitely one.“They're probably going to go for what's called dynamic alignment on veterinary measures and food standards. It sounds a fancy term, but what it means is, if the EU change their rules, we automatically comply with them. They dynamically move, and we follow, even if Parliament doesn't want to. So we become a passive rule taker.“That is totally against the spirit of the referendum, that is, in effect, a surrender of our sovereignty. Therefore, if we came into government, and they're mad enough to do it, and we still hope they won't, we would then feel obliged to overturn it.“This summit on Monday, we're calling the surrender Summit, because they're going to surrender some of our powers to the European Union.”WATCH ABOVE.

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00:00Mark, thank you very much for coming in.
00:03What are you trying to achieve with this petition?
00:05Well, it's the veterans who've put it together.
00:08In a nutshell, Labour are trying to change the law
00:12because they say the Legacy Act is incompatible
00:15with certain parts of the Sacred Human Rights Act.
00:19And so this government of human rights lawyers is trying to change the law,
00:24which would have two effects.
00:25One, it would reopen our Northern Ireland veterans
00:29to this endless cycle of investigation and reinvestigation,
00:33whilst at the same time making it easier for Gerry Adams
00:37to sue the British taxpayer.
00:40Now, there are politicians like me who are very annoyed about this,
00:43but the veterans who fought in Northern Ireland
00:45and other veterans are extremely annoyed,
00:48so they've put together a petition.
00:50Just before we came on out,
00:52it was up to nearly 40,000 signatures in just over four days,
00:57which is pretty good going.
00:59If it gets to 100,000, we have to debate it in Parliament.
01:02And we're trying to show the Labour government
01:04the strength of feeling against doing this.
01:07And it's the courts, isn't it,
01:09that have said that parts of the Act that we passed
01:12is against the European Convention on Human Rights,
01:16and the Irish government is strongly opposed to this Act as well.
01:20Yes, but in a number of the court cases,
01:23the government could have appealed to higher courts,
01:26but because they're a government of human rights lawyers
01:28from the PM downwards, they haven't done that.
01:32They regard paying homage to the Human Rights Act
01:35as more important than defending the soldiers
01:38who upheld the rule of law in Northern Ireland.
01:40We think that is abhorrent.
01:42And that's absolutely key, isn't it,
01:44that the British have always had very high standards
01:46for their armed forces,
01:47and have taken the view that if people commit crimes
01:50when serving the Queen, as it then was,
01:53they should be prosecuted for them.
01:54You agree with that.
01:56So isn't it only right that any allegations are investigated
02:00to see whether or not laws were broken?
02:02Well, all soldiers had to operate under the rule of law.
02:06They had to comply, in most cases,
02:08with something that was called the Yellow Card,
02:10which laid down when they could and could not open fire.
02:14Of course, every soldier would believe that the law should be upheld,
02:21that they were there to uphold law and order in Northern Ireland.
02:25But nearly all of these cases were investigated at the time,
02:30in some cases 50 years ago.
02:33And Sinn Féin and their allies who want to rewrite history
02:38are often constantly trying to revive these cases,
02:43often through coronial inquests,
02:45to pursue those veterans for their own ends.
02:48And some of these veterans are 80,
02:50and they've been arrested early in the morning,
02:53as if they were really dangerous.
02:55When Dennis Hutchings was arrested,
02:57who subsequently died in the middle of a trial,
03:00the PSNI sent 11 officers to arrest a man in his mid-70s
03:06who was dying of cancer.
03:07I don't know what they thought he was going to do to them.
03:10And who had been investigated in the early 1970s.
03:13Correct.
03:13So at the bottom line,
03:15this is two-tier justice.
03:17It's one justice for our Northern Ireland veterans.
03:20It's a completely different form of justice from Gerry Adams
03:23and some of his friends who were given
03:25so-called letters of comfort by Tony Blair.
03:28Well, thank you for bringing this to the attention of GB News.
03:31I also want to ask you,
03:32because you've been very busy in the House of Commons today,
03:34with an important opposition day debate,
03:37where the Conservatives said something quite bold,
03:39that if Keir Starmer gives way on Brexit freedoms
03:44in the reset negotiations,
03:46an incoming Conservative government would cancel them.
03:48So if Hugh does an agreement to give fish away for 10 years
03:51and we get in in 2029, it'll just go on day one.
03:54Yes, because to do that would be utterly contrary
03:57to the principles of the 2016 referendum,
04:01which said that we should take back control of our laws.
04:05The risk is not just about fish,
04:07although that is definitely one.
04:09They're probably going to go for what's called
04:12dynamic alignment on veterinary measures and food standards.
04:16It sounds a fancy term,
04:19but what it means is if the EU change their rules,
04:24we automatically comply with them.
04:26They dynamically move and we follow,
04:29even if Parliament doesn't want to.
04:32So we become a passive rule taker.
04:35That is totally against the spirit of the referendum.
04:38That is, in effect, a surrender of our sovereignty.
04:41And therefore, if we came into government
04:44and they're mad enough to do it,
04:45and we still hope they won't,
04:47we would then feel obliged to overturn it.
04:50This summit on Monday,
04:51we're calling the Surrender Summit
04:53because they're going to surrender
04:54some of our powers to the European Union.
04:57We'll see you next time.

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