The Playboy Murders Season 1 Episode 4
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00:00Carol Gold was really a pioneer being one of the first Playboy bunnies.
00:06A bunny in the 1960s made great money.
00:12And we were like rock stars.
00:14Playboy can give you the taste of the high life, but that doesn't last forever.
00:21She just blew through all the money and one day woke up and realized there was nothing left.
00:27The champion said to Carol that if she didn't back him up, he was going to divorce her.
00:34She says she knew she was paying $75 a month into something, but didn't really know what.
00:41Just a few minutes into his conversation with detectives, he realizes, oh, wait a minute.
00:48This is about a murder.
00:52That was the beginning of my worst nightmare.
00:57Police get a call over the radio.
01:00A woman had called 911 saying her husband had been shot.
01:06So they rush over.
01:10They get there.
01:1151-year-old Chuck Gold was found dead and murdered inside his home.
01:1351-year-old Chuck Gold was found dead and murdered inside his home.
01:1451-year-old Chuck Gold was found dead and murdered inside his home.
01:18We have an apparent homicide.
01:19We have an apparent homicide.
01:23Mr. Gold expired from multiple gunshot wounds.
01:28We were told he'd been discovered by his wife Carol.
01:29We were told he'd been discovered by his wife Carol.
01:3051-year-old Chuck Gold expired from multiple gunshot wounds.
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01:52discovered by his wife, Carol.
01:59Carol Gold was 53 years old
02:01when her husband, Chuck, was found brutally murdered.
02:04It's a dramatic turn in the life of a woman
02:06who just decades ago was on a very different path.
02:10Working as a Playboy bunny,
02:12experiencing this glamorous lifestyle
02:14and making more money than she ever thought possible.
02:16Carol was involved with the Playboy company
02:18at a very early stage, in the early 60s.
02:22Back then, the magazine looked very homemade,
02:25cut and paste.
02:26It wasn't like the glossy, lavish thing
02:28that people saw in decades later.
02:33I have started Playboy when he was 27 years old.
02:36He started HMH Publishing at the same time.
02:39HMH Publishing is his favorite company.
02:42He's a big fan of HMH Publishing.
02:44HMH Publishing is his initials,
02:47Hugh Marston Hefner,
02:48and he just started that publishing company
02:50to do Playboy.
02:53The first issue came out in December of 1953.
02:57He didn't put a volume number on the first issue
03:00because he wasn't sure if there'd be a second one.
03:03The first nude pictorial in Playboy
03:05was a photo of Marilyn Monroe,
03:06and that feature would go on
03:07to become the centerfold feature.
03:09There really wasn't anything like Playboy at the time.
03:14There were nude magazines,
03:16but they were all pretty downscale,
03:18so he wanted to do something different.
03:21The Playboy lifestyle was supposed to be
03:24an aspirational, upscale, men's kind of fantasy lifestyle.
03:29Carol was from Chicago, and in 1955,
03:39she was a model in her teenage years.
03:43She did a lot of magazines and commercials
03:45and things like that.
03:47And so that's kind of how her life started
03:49in the public eye.
03:53And when Carol was only 15 years old,
03:56she had a friend who worked nearby HMH Publishing.
04:01And her friend thought,
04:02hey, Carol, maybe you can get a job there.
04:05Carol was in a Catholic school,
04:07and the Catholic priest had to approve anybody
04:09that wanted to work a job outside of school,
04:12and he approved it because it was just
04:14a publishing company.
04:16He didn't understand that HMH meant U.M. Hefner.
04:23Carol meets with an executive who really, really liked her
04:27at the time, and he hires her on the spot.
04:32The very first Playboy Club opened in Chicago
04:34on February 29th in 1960.
04:38It was an upscale place for men to go.
04:41It was a private club.
04:43You know, you could have lunch or dinner
04:45and see great entertainment,
04:47and, of course, the women were wearing the bunny costume,
04:50which became very famous.
04:53The Playboy Bunnies were the hostesses and waitresses
04:56that worked at the Playboy Club,
04:58and they wore the very famous skimpy outfit,
05:02which is basically just a corset with tights.
05:08The bunny costume was based on the Playboy mascot,
05:12which is a rabbit.
05:16When Hef first started the magazine,
05:17he decided on the rabbit as a symbol and a logo,
05:22because rabbits are very playful animals,
05:24and they have a lot of sex.
05:29This is my Playboy Bunny picture.
05:31This is from Chicago.
05:34That was a really great job.
05:36Definition of a bunny in the 1960s
05:39was the girl next door,
05:41but somebody that was sexy and beautiful.
05:44A bunny in the 1960s made great money,
05:49and we were like rock stars.
05:51The money we made definitely was life-changing.
05:54In Chicago, we made more money.
05:56There was more celebrities that came to the Chicago Club.
05:59We met everybody,
06:01and usually would have them sign our cuffs.
06:04Carol started off as a switchboard operator
06:07in Playboy's first offices.
06:09They used Carol as a fit bunny
06:13in order to design the original costume
06:16that the girls wore in the 1960s
06:18when the club opened.
06:20And then, she became a bunny after that.
06:25And she was really a pioneer,
06:27being one of the first bunnies.
06:29This would have been a very unique experience for anyone,
06:32but for somebody who was coming
06:34from a Catholic school background,
06:36that just must have been something completely different
06:39because at the time,
06:40there was nothing like the Playboy Club.
06:43Carol helped supervise other bunnies
06:45and private parties,
06:47and she was always kind.
06:49She was easy to work for,
06:51and if you stepped offline, she told you.
06:55She was supervising a get-together.
06:59Frank Sinatra and some of his friends were there.
07:02And Mr. Sinatra asked her,
07:06well, who are you?
07:07And she said, may I get you something?
07:09And he goes, well, no.
07:11I just want to know who you are.
07:12You can sit and talk to me.
07:13And she said, Mr. Sinatra, I'd absolutely love to,
07:17and I think you're amazing,
07:18but I have to take care of everything here.
07:22The club was definitely an introduction to the good life for Carol
07:30and showed her what was possible.
07:32You know, you have all these wealthy clients coming in.
07:35I think Carol probably got used to the money and the lifestyle.
07:38It's a very easy thing to get used to
07:40and want for the rest of your life.
07:43While Carol was working as a Playboy bunny,
07:46she also put herself through school.
07:48She became a teacher and taught eighth grade at a Catholic school.
07:52It's so crazy that she was a Catholic school teacher by day
07:55and a Playboy bunny at night.
07:57During this time, she met an engineering student
07:59named Kenny Cattini, and they got married.
08:02Carol's at the Playboy club for five years
08:06before she and Kenny end up moving to Lake Geneva, Wisconsin,
08:10where they work at horse stables.
08:15That's when tragedy struck.
08:17Kenny died shortly after a riding accident.
08:29I believe he was running barrels at a horse show,
08:34and he slipped his spell out of his saddle
08:37and never regained consciousness.
08:42Kenny's passing not only left Carol as a widow,
08:46but she was taking care of their daughter
08:48and their newborn son, who was born in that same year.
08:59Carol was busy working at the stable
09:01and raising two kids
09:02when she reconnected with a childhood friend, Chuck Gold.
09:05Like Carol, Chuck also had two kids.
09:10My relationship with my dad in my earlier years
09:13was sporadic.
09:15My parents were divorced before I was two.
09:18They were separated.
09:19My mother and I lived with her parents, my grandparents.
09:25Chuck and Carol start dating, and that was in 1977.
09:30About a year later,
09:31they were off to Las Vegas to get married.
09:33She used her Playboy connections
09:35to get them set up at the Lake Geneva Playboy Resort.
09:38The Lake Geneva Playboy Resort was the very first Playboy Resort,
09:47an offshoot of the Playboy Club,
09:49kind of a bigger, better experience.
09:51And it was a very modern establishment.
09:54They had ski trails, they had golf courses,
09:58they had stables.
09:59It was just this amazing, huge retreat.
10:03Carol loved horses, and she and Chuck went on to open their own stable
10:10at the Playboy Club, Lake Geneva.
10:12It was a huge deal.
10:14I mean, if you're gonna run a horse stable,
10:16what better place than at a luxury resort
10:19with all these wealthy customers?
10:25Carol was very good for my father.
10:27They had a really great dynamic.
10:29They worked well together.
10:31They would ride together,
10:33they would do all kinds of things together.
10:35By the summer of 82,
10:38my father and Carol knew that they were gonna leave Lake Geneva.
10:42The main reason for the move was
10:44the winters were just too much for everybody,
10:47and they decided that Arizona was where they wanted to be.
10:50Carol and Chuck moved to Arizona
10:53with Carol's children,
10:55her daughter Allison and her son Ashton.
10:57The family settled into running the stables
10:59at Point Hilton Resort at Tapatio Cliffs.
11:02Chuck Gold had a business
11:08where they would do gunfight reenactments
11:11at some of the high-end hotels
11:14here in the Valley at the time.
11:16He was known to a lot of people as Black Bart.
11:19The original Black Bart was a gunslinger
11:22from, like, the 1880s.
11:24My dad is the personality.
11:27My dad would bring people in
11:29and he'd be dressed as Black Bart
11:31and people would just get a kick out of it.
11:36And Carol was the person
11:39responsible for all of the accounting
11:41and paying the bills and doing all of that stuff.
11:44That was Carol's role.
11:45By 1992,
11:47cash flow was not an issue at that stable.
11:50They had a going business
11:51and that was without Chuck.
11:53And I can imagine
11:54when you add in the gunfight shows
11:56and the things that he did,
11:58they were doing quite well.
12:00They had this idyllic lifestyle.
12:06You know, it could have been a fairytale life.
12:09But it all changed on the night of October 20th.
12:14Dan and Carol were married in December of 78.
12:28They would have been married 14 years in December of 92,
12:32when he was killed.
12:33On October 20th, 1992,
12:44Carol Gold had been at dinner with her daughter, Alison.
12:48And from there,
12:49they ended up going back to Alison's house
12:51where they watched some movies.
12:53Chuck Gold was supposed to be at a conference.
12:56And at some point,
12:58he had called and said that he was on his way home.
13:03And then Carol decided to go home.
13:06And when she came home around 10.30,
13:09she walked into their house
13:11and found Chuck shot dead in their kitchen.
13:14That's when she called 911.
13:22Got a phone call.
13:23And it was Richard Feingold
13:25on the other end of the call.
13:29Richard was my dad's friend.
13:32He goes, your dad's dead.
13:36And I made him repeat it three times,
13:41and I went, I don't understand.
13:46And he said, your dad was shot tonight,
13:49and that's all I know.
13:52And I just lost it.
13:58That was the beginning of my worst nightmare.
14:00Chuck Gold was bleeding from the head
14:15with eight .22 caliber bullet casings
14:18surrounding his body.
14:23I was assigned to the crime scene.
14:28The scene is processed.
14:31The front door was locked.
14:34There was no sign of a break-in.
14:38I walked around
14:39and looked at different things,
14:40and I discovered that
14:42one of the back doors is unlocked.
14:49The back door should be locked,
14:51and it's not.
14:56Your first thought is, is that,
14:58well, maybe it's a virgin.
14:59Maybe it's a burglary gone bad.
15:05If that's the case,
15:07you will normally see things disturbed,
15:13but none of that appeared to be the case.
15:16The lead detective pulls Carol outside,
15:22starts kind of asking her about everything.
15:26Carol tells detectives that they had
15:29a really good relationship,
15:30that things were going well for them.
15:32Carol indicated that, in the past,
15:34Chuck had engaged in extramarital contact,
15:44but that they had gotten past it.
15:48It must have been really difficult for Carol,
15:50because, you know, she was a playboy bunny.
15:52She was one of the people to usher in the sexual revolution,
15:56and then to be married later in life,
15:58and your partner's unfaithful,
16:00it must have been hard.
16:02The detectives went on their search for information
16:08by going and talking to everybody
16:10that would have had some knowledge
16:13of what was going on in the Gold household
16:17or the business.
16:19One of the first people the detectives reach out to
16:22is Chuck's close friend, Richard Feingold.
16:26Mr. Feingold indicated that Chuck could be hard
16:29to get along with, and he might have a lot of enemies.
16:34Richard also tells the detective
16:37that a number of years ago,
16:39Chuck had been in a relationship
16:41with a woman who worked at the horse stables named Linda,
16:44and the two were very happy together.
16:47The story was that Chuck was going to divorce Carol,
16:51and live with or marry Linda when the divorce was final.
16:57There's information that Linda lived in the house
17:00at some period of time,
17:02but for whatever reason, Chuck ended the relationship.
17:09This was around October of 91.
17:14I knew that my father had affairs.
17:17I knew that Carol knew about him.
17:21I believe Carol had affairs,
17:23and I'm sure that my father knew about him.
17:27I don't necessarily know that I would call it unfaithful,
17:31because I think they knew,
17:33because that was just their dynamic.
17:35Detectives go on to interview other employees
17:44at the horse stables, and one of them has a story
17:48that Carol had a 14-year-old grandson named Ronnie.
17:53That was Allison's son.
17:56And at some point, Ronnie was staying with Chuck and Carol,
17:59because Carol's daughter, Allison, was out of town.
18:02Chuck expected Ronnie to do work at the stables.
18:09Ronnie didn't want to.
18:10He wanted to go hang out with his girlfriend.
18:12He had no plans of going to the stables.
18:15He allegedly told Chuck,
18:17well, I'm going to be at my girlfriend's house.
18:19And Chuck said, get to the stables,
18:22and he didn't get there.
18:24And that made Chuck really angry.
18:27And Chuck went off.
18:29And he told him that he wanted him gone.
18:32He didn't want Ronnie at the house anymore.
18:37Stablehands at the resort said
18:38they saw Chuck and Ronnie arguing loudly over the incident.
18:44As a result, Ronnie ran away.
18:49And this all took place just a week before Chuck's murder.
18:52There's some information that Carol Gold's grandson, Ronnie,
19:08had had prior run-ins or contacts with the police department.
19:12Ronnie was known for having a bit of a temper.
19:17Ultimately, investigators find out that Ronnie was with his girlfriend
19:22at the time that Chuck was murdered.
19:24And he was at school the next day.
19:26And he didn't even know that Chuck was killed
19:28until he was pulled out of school.
19:34Detectives also learn that in the weeks leading up to Chuck Gold's murder,
19:38he was in a real duke-out with another guy,
19:42and that happens to be Ashton, Carol's son.
19:48Ashton was 20 and lived with my dad and Carol.
19:52He was always very quiet.
19:57I think he was also very resentful
19:58because he resented having to do any of the work at the stables.
20:02We found out that Ashton had a history of using hard drugs.
20:09Ashton apparently got hooked on an opioid
20:13and owed people money for drugs that he allegedly bought.
20:18Ashton was addicted to a drug called Nubane.
20:22And he was taking it, I guess, to work out.
20:25And it was some sort of steroid that helped him pump up.
20:29And dad told me that Ashton had got caught smoking weed at the stables.
20:36I think that was the final straw for my dad and really pissed him off.
20:41He was livid because it was their livelihood.
20:44And marijuana wasn't legal then.
20:47So the thought that they could have lost their contract with the resort
20:53was first and forefront in his mind.
20:56One of my last conversations with my dad,
21:01we talked about Ashton and that things were getting complicated
21:06and that he didn't know how much longer
21:09he was going to be able to stay the way things were.
21:12Chuck had reached his breaking point with Ashton
21:16and decided it would be best if he just kicked him out of the house.
21:20Knowing this information that Ashton and Chuck had had this big disagreement,
21:31detectives go and question Ashton,
21:34who tells them that they had smoothed things over.
21:36It wasn't that big of a deal.
21:38Everything was fine.
21:40Ashton had an alibi for that night.
21:42He was with his girlfriend somewhere in public.
21:46And there were other people that verified it.
21:54But detectives got a call from a family member
21:57who said that Ashton was out looking at new Cadillacs.
22:01And the family member found something wrong with that.
22:05Chuck has been dead, you know, two weeks.
22:08And now Carol's son is out there looking at new cars.
22:18So two weeks after the murder on November 5th of 92,
22:23the detective goes back and questions Carol.
22:27When detectives brought up Ashton and supposedly this fight,
22:32she talked about the fact that Ashton had been abusing some drugs.
22:40Chuck said to Carol that if she didn't back him up
22:44and get rid of Ashton from the house,
22:47he was going to divorce her.
22:52But she believed that Ashton and Chuck
22:56had worked out whatever upset him
22:59and that everything was good between Ashton and Chuck.
23:05When asked about owing people money for drugs,
23:09Carol said that they discovered
23:12that he owed about $1,200 to somebody
23:15and they just decided to pay it for him.
23:19And it was supposed to be the end of it.
23:21At some point during the investigation,
23:30detectives got a call from the insurance company,
23:33which is not uncommon.
23:35Insurance companies will often call investigators
23:39on questionable deaths.
23:41And their question is,
23:43is anybody in the family involved?
23:46Because there's this $150,000 accidental death insurance.
23:57I can't imagine Carol wanting him dead for money
24:00for the simple fact that he was the one
24:02who helped make the money.
24:04It doesn't make sense.
24:06One of the stories that Carol had told me
24:12was that when her husband Kenny died,
24:14there was money and that she just kind of
24:19blew through all the money.
24:21And she just one day woke up and realized
24:25there was nothing left.
24:27So she pretty much had to start over.
24:30A lot of bunnies talk about how the job paid so much more
24:36just from tips than they would have made
24:38any other job that would have been available to them
24:40in the early 60s.
24:43I think it would have been really difficult for someone
24:45like Carol, who at such a young age
24:47had such financial freedom.
24:49And that's a very hard lifestyle to transition out of.
24:52When I went to Phoenix after the funeral,
25:05I looked at Ashton, and at that moment,
25:09I realized that Ashton was wearing a ring
25:12and a bracelet that were my grandfather's.
25:18So I walked over to Carol, and I went,
25:21I noticed that Ashton was wearing grandpa's ring.
25:26And she looked at me, and she said,
25:28well, yeah, dad said he could have them.
25:33And I said, you're mistaken,
25:37because dad and I talked about it
25:39last time I was here,
25:41that whatever was grandpa's would go to me.
25:43So he would never have let Ashton
25:45wear grandpa's ring and bracelet.
25:47Well, Steffi, he did.
25:48Well, no, Carol, he didn't.
25:50I think that's the first time I really thought about it
25:55and really went, oh, my God.
25:59Are they both involved?
26:02Are they both involved?
26:04Are they both involved?
26:09Who are you?
26:22Who are you?
26:23It does not take long
26:24before the answer to that question becomes complex.
26:27When I was 25, I could answer that,
26:31Carol, or Miss Cotini. I am the eighth grade teacher, or good evening, I'm your bunny Carol.
26:40Can you imagine my eighth graders telling their parents that their teacher was a playboy bunny?
26:46Neither could I.
26:47The detective ends up confronting Carol about that accidental death policy, something that she hadn't talked about at all in that first interview.
27:04And she says to the detective that she didn't know about it until after Chuck died, that Chuck was the one that organized this.
27:11She knew she was paying $75 a month into something, but didn't really know what, and that's what that was.
27:20Every time detectives find something that undermines what she said before, she has to modify her story.
27:28And she does that.
27:31The one thing about doing police investigations is that if you've got somebody that's telling you the truth, it doesn't change.
27:40But there isn't anything that detectives found at that point that shows that Carol actually did it.
27:56In early November, detectives went back and made a second contact with Ashton.
28:05It's possible that that drug problem is connecting to the murder.
28:10The detective comes up with this plan to confront Ashton and kind of makes up the fact that he knows a drug dealer that Ashton knows is involved in this murder.
28:22He doesn't actually know that for sure, but he thinks if he brings that up to Ashton, he might get more information out of him.
28:27The trouble with lying to suspects or investigative leads is that if you guess wrong, then they know you're just fishing.
28:36The detective says, you know, it'd be really helpful if you could give us a name of any of these drug dealers that you're associated with or have worked with.
28:49And Ashton panicked a little bit, and then he gives up Bob Pryor.
28:58Bob Pryor was Ashton's drug dealer, and that's where he got his new bane from.
29:05Bob was also a physical trainer at a gym, which Ashton joined.
29:11Bob Pryor is one of those guys that if you work certain assignments, his name probably would have come up.
29:18He would have been known to the Phoenix Police Department.
29:21The detectives are very familiar with Bob Pryor and his rap sheet.
29:27They have an informant who knows about Bob Pryor.
29:32September of 1993, the detective is able to get in contact with Dan Goddard, who is the CI.
29:41The CI is confidential informant.
29:44The detective asks Goddard if he knows Ashton, and Goddard tells the officer he had met Ashton once.
29:54And there was a conversation relayed to Dan Goddard that Ashton had told Pryor that he hated his stepdad so much, he was willing to pay to get him killed.
30:04The detective asks Goddard if he knows where Bob Pryor was on October 20, 1992.
30:17And Goddard says, yeah, I was with him.
30:21Goddard was driving Bob Pryor around, and he tells the detective they stopped at a gas station, which was conveniently right around the corner from the Gold's house.
30:31He said that Pryor was wearing a heavy jacket, he's got a gun.
30:39Mr. Goddard talked about it being a small caliber pistol or gun, probably a .22, and he talks about a silencer.
30:52Bob Pryor got out of the car with a .22 caliber gun under his jacket.
30:57That gun matches the casings that were found around Chuck Gold's body.
31:10Dan Goddard tells the detective Bob Pryor disappeared for a period of time, and he didn't know where he went.
31:16And suddenly Bob Pryor and Ashton moved from investigative lead to the suspect column on your police report.
31:28When detectives start looking into Bob Pryor, they find out in an unrelated case, police took $9,000 in cash and a bunch of weapons from his house.
31:45Bob Pryor had been complaining that he wants that stuff back, so this is the perfect ruse to get him into the police department.
31:53The decision was to give him a call, tell him we're giving his guns back, just have him come on down, and he came down, and he didn't get his guns back, but he did get interviewed by detectives.
32:08But just a few minutes into his conversation with detectives, he realizes, oh, wait a minute, this is about a murder.
32:20Now that detectives have the attention of Bob Pryor, it's their chance to say to him,
32:26so, Bob, just how much were you paid to carry out a hit on Chuck Gold?
32:31And eventually, he starts to crack.
32:36Bob Pryor tells them it was $9,000, and the police had seized that when they took his guns and drugs.
32:47Bob pretty much gives himself up almost immediately and admits that he was involved in this plan,
32:53but he's got a lot more to tell the detectives when he says Carol Gold was really the mastermind.
33:10Carol Gold had it all when she was a Playboy Bunny, and she lost that.
33:15She has this thriving business with Chuck, and there was probably the fear of losing that, too.
33:20She wasn't going to go through losing it all again.
33:23Faced with the threat of Chuck divorcing her, Carol was probably scared and angry.
33:36During his interview with detectives, Bob Pryor gave some statements that implicated Carol and Ashton
33:44as being the people that had hired him for $9,000 to kill Mr. Gold.
33:53He'd also implicated them in a prior separate murder attempt on Chuck, where Carol and Ashton put rat poison in his dinner.
34:09With this new information, the detective heads back over to the horse stables and arrests both Ashton and Carol for murder and conspiracy to commit murder on Chuck Gold.
34:31Detectives bring Carol back in.
34:38Detectives bring Carol back in.
34:39They've got more questions for her.
34:41This time, she clams up.
34:44Carol wants a lawyer.
34:46Carol's released.
34:48Carol's released.
34:49There was no physical tie to Carol.
34:53But they charged Ashton and Pryor with conspiracy to commit first-degree murder and first-degree murder.
35:02After Carol was released, the detective goes to talk to John and Sharon Novoselki, who were good friends of Carol and Chuck's.
35:18He had talked to them before, but he wanted to go back just to see if he could find out any other information that could help.
35:27The Novoselkis end up giving the detective a piece of information that gets him one step closer to solving the case.
35:35John and Sharon indicated that it was a really, really bad time in Chuck and Carol's marriage.
35:48But probably the biggest piece of information they tell the detective is that they know Chuck did not know about any kind of insurance policy.
35:58Chuck had been denied insurance, I'm assuming life insurance, because of health issues.
36:08The detective was able to obtain handwriting samples for Chuck and other family members.
36:17But the handwriting analysts told him that Chuck did not sign the application for the insurance.
36:28And that, in fact, his signature was done by Carol.
36:36The application was fraudulent.
36:41And I later found out that Carol hired an attorney to get the money, and the police were trying to not release the money,
36:53because they still hadn't cleared her from being a suspect.
36:58But they didn't have enough to hold the insurance company from not paying it.
37:03In December of 1994, the trial starts for Ashton and Bob Pryor.
37:17But it's a deadlocked jury in the end, and eventually it's declared a mistrial in 1995.
37:25They got a hung jury, and that's probably because they couldn't connect the dots.
37:31If I was having trouble with it sitting in the gallery, I'm sure the jury was too.
37:35Not long after Bob's mistrial, he manages to get himself into big trouble on unrelated charges,
37:49federal charges having to do with drug distribution.
37:51So what he decides to do is plead down his sentence by promising to testify in future trials against Ashton and his mom, Carol.
38:05In 1995, on 2nd of August, Ashton and Carol are rearrested for the murder and conspiracy of Chuck.
38:14I've covered so many of these murder-for-hire cases, and it's usually spouse-on-spouse.
38:21And the spouse killers think they're so clever, but they always make a stupid mistake.
38:29Document scientists determined that Chuck hadn't filled out the insurance paperwork that Carol had,
38:36which undermined her story that she didn't have any information about the life insurance or how much it was for.
38:49It would be pretty hard to explain that away.
38:56After Carol's second arrest, the detective is hoping she's going to come forward with anything more than she did the first time.
39:04So they pull her into a room to interrogate her one more time.
39:08In the final interview, Carol makes statements admitting involvement in the case and makes a statement,
39:18you're on the right track, but the wrong train.
39:25And she never clarifies what she means by that.
39:28I believe that they conspired together, Ashton and Carol, with a third party that was the trigger man.
39:37From the day that she was arrested in 93, I never heard from her again.
39:48Not a single person in the family ever heard from her again.
39:52She never called to say, it's not true.
39:56I'll take care of it. I'll explain it all.
39:58Not once.
40:05There's no betrayal worse than that.
40:07August 4th of 1997, the trial of Ashton and Carol started.
40:24During the course of the trial, Ashton pleads guilty to conspiracy
40:29and is later sentenced to 18 years in prison.
40:37And the trial proceeds against his mother.
40:40At the end of the trial, the jury comes back with guilty on two counts, conspiracy and murder one.
40:48She's sentenced to 25 to life with the possibility of receiving parole.
40:59Thanks to that deal that Bob Pryor had cut, he was only sentenced to 20 years in a medium security prison.
41:06I felt my dad got the justice he deserved.
41:16I felt my dad got the justice he deserved.
41:21If I don't know, I felt my dad was sentenced to TBN withoutBy penis.
41:36I felt his deathé through abortion.
41:38Abillery can formulate his advice as a scientific response.
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