Panayam kay Asec. Renato 'Aboy' Paraiso, DICT spokesperson, ukol sa anti-fake news initiatives ng DICT
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00:00At kaugnay ng Anti-Fake News Initiatives ng Department of Information and Communications Technology,
00:06makakasama natin para pag-usapan yan si Assistant Secretary Renato Aboy Paraiso,
00:11ang tagapagsalita ng DICT.
00:14Asik Aboy, magandang tanghali po.
00:16Magandang tanghali, Director Sheryl, Asik Dale, sa inyong mga tagapanood, tagasubaybay, tagapakinig,
00:20magandang hapon po sa ating lahat.
00:22Asik, unahin na po natin ang inilunsad na Joint Anti-Fake News Action Committee.
00:27Ano po ang papel ng DICT o CICC dito po?
00:31Ang DICT, particularly ang CICC, ang pangunahing trabaho niyan is to detect,
00:39hindi lang yung fake news, but rather more on yung mga deep fakes na tawag natin,
00:43manipulated videos, audios, kung sino-sino personalidad.
00:47Mahal niyo, baka kayo na yung next na i-manipulate na nagbebenta for fintech,
00:52especially now in the context of the upcoming elections,
00:55marami ho kami in-expect na maglalabasan yan.
00:58And consequently, dahil napag-uusapan na rin natin kanina,
01:02ay ngayon, kanina ho, in-announce na ni Chairman George Garcia
01:06ang launching ng Threat Monitoring Center ng COMELEC at CICC.
01:11This is the KKK Center together with the NBI, PNP,
01:15various civic organizations, as well as social media platforms
01:19para bantayan yung mga fake news, mga hacking na pwede mangyari ngayong eleksyon.
01:26Asik Apo, yung nabangkit mo yung nilaunch na center.
01:30Paano ba yung magiging mechanism nito?
01:34Paano niya babantayan?
01:36Pwede bang mag-sumbong ang tao pag may nakita?
01:40Two ways, tama ho.
01:42Asik Dela, maganda yung para maipalam na rin natin sa ating mga kababayan,
01:46Una is, actively kami mag-search.
01:49Meron kami mga systems, may pinoccur kami mga systems
01:54to actively scrub yung internet and the platforms
01:56for any signs of COMELEC rule violations at mga fake news po.
02:01Second, tama ho kayo.
02:02Pwede hong mag-sumbong ang mga kababayan natin dito sa action center na yan.
02:06Pwede hong yung contact ng COMELEC,
02:07or kaya, kinonvert na ho natin yung IRC natin, yung CICC action center natin.
02:13Yung hotline 1326, pwede na rin ho kayo mag-sumbong dyan.
02:16At diretso na ho doon sa monitoring center at maka-actionan ho kagad natin yan.
02:22Asik, pinalakas po ng DICT at Google ang pagkutulungan para labanan po ang fake news.
02:27Ano po ang mga hakbang na inyo pong ginawa kaugnay nito?
02:31Well, ano, unang-unang, kailangan natin magpasalamat sa mga kaibigan natin sa Google.
02:34Lalong-lalo na ho yung dalawa natin kaibigan, si Ives at si Bobby.
02:38Sa pagpapartner up with DICT, we came up with at isasign natin ang isang memorandum of agreement
02:46at saka covenant with regards to a lot of things.
02:50One is yung pag-tutulungan natin pag doon sa mga systems of government
02:55kasi marami sa atin gumagamit mga Google applications.
02:59And second, I think more importantly, when it comes to the platforms,
03:02kasi Google has YouTube, silang nagmamayari ng YouTube.
03:07So, a commitment, ito, nagpapasalamat ko tayo,
03:10a commitment against fake news and making the internet safe.
03:14Yun yung talagang kailangan, sabi nga ni Sec A, good vibes lang tayo sa internet.
03:18So, kailangan ito ang pinuposhoot talaga natin yung making the internet safe for everyone,
03:24especially yung mga anak natin.
03:26I'm coming from the perspective na magulang, mga anak ko, yung pag nag-i-internet,
03:32grabe yung oras na ginugugil nila dyan.
03:35So, we have to make it safe for our children.
03:37Nabanggit mo yung partnership with Google,
03:41kamakilan, hindi lang Google ang social media platform na available.
03:46Recently, may pahayag si Meta founder Mark Zuckerberg noon
03:50na may pagkakamali o pagkukulang sila para maiwasang magamit.
03:54Para makapaminsala ang social media tulad ng Facebook o Meta.
03:59Kasama na rin daw po dito yung fake news, hate speech at iba pa.
04:03Ano ang masasabi ng DICT patungkol dito?
04:06At ano yung maaaring gawin ng pamahalaan para maiwasan ito?
04:09Well, at siguro ito, allow me to speak directly to the founder of Meta, Mr. Zuckerberg.
04:17There was a recognition, sir, of the mistakes of Meta before
04:22that you weren't able to see and put guidelines in place in order to protect the internet.
04:30Especially your platforms from fake news, from online harms, from hate speech.
04:36But it shouldn't end there.
04:39What Meta did afterward was take out their fact-checkers
04:42and it made a statement that it should go back to promoting freedom of expression.
04:50I'm a firm believer, ASIC and Director, that we are all entitled to our own opinions.
04:56A free exchange of opinions is good for any democracy.
04:58Even if we differ from our opinions, I would fight tooth and nail to fight for your right to express those opinions.
05:07But we are not entitled to our own facts, Mr. Zuckerberg.
05:13Yes, it is important to protect freedom of speech, freedom of expression.
05:19But it is equally important to fight for the freedom of information of our citizens.
05:23And those informations must be grounded on facts, not fake news.
05:29ASIC ito naman po, ilang beses na rin napapag-usapan.
05:32Pero, papaano po ba malalaman o machi-check kung legit po ang isang online site or profile?
05:40Ay, madali ho. Kasi kami pinopromote natin yung ano eh, pakipagtulungan natin dito sa mga social media platforms eh.
05:46Magpa-verify ho tayo, lalong-lalo na yung mga kagayan nyo, yung mga sikat,
05:49kailangan yung mga ano, kailangan verified yung mga ano.
05:53At pinadali na ng mga social media platforms ang pag-verify ng mga accounts natin, ng mga sites hoon natin.
06:00Lalong-lalo na for those who, I think it's mandated for those who are running for public office,
06:04na kailangan verified yung sites hoon natin.
06:07So, I think that's one. And second ho, pag halimbawa ho, medyo, titignan natin, medyo dubious.
06:14If one, if a personality or group is promoting something different from their advocacy or talangan different from their character,
06:22magduda na ho tayo. Madali naman ho yan. We can, ano eh.
06:25Kasi madalas ho, ang pinagbabasihan natin yung feeds natin eh.
06:29So, kung ano lang yung dumating sa atin, kaya tumada tayo mag-verify.
06:32So, yun lang din siguro ang pakiusap ko sa ating mga kababayan.
06:35Para naman ho, bawasan natin yung mabawasan natin yung mabiktima tayo,
06:39i-verify ho natin madali naman po yan.
06:41Asikaboy, ano po ba yung online safeguards?
06:44At ano po yung mga ginagawang hakbang ng DICT para mapalakas naman yung protection ng online users?
06:50Ito na ho. Unang-unang araw pa lang sa trabaho ni Sec. Henry Aguda,
06:56unang-unang yung pinungtahan, meta, to discuss about making the internet safe.
07:02Kasi we have to recognize and we have to accept the fact that ito ho talaga mga social media platforms.
07:07Ang talagang primary platforms nung pag nag-i-internet na tayo.
07:10This is where we get our information.
07:12Minsan nga, hindi na information pag chismis. Diyan na rin natin kinukuha.
07:16So, we have to make it safe.
07:17And, you know, a partnership with these organizations has to be in place.
07:21But, on our part, we do our own. We secure certain applications and certain systems to scrub the internet from online harms.
07:32Hindi lang ho yung itong fake news, eh.
07:34But, yung online scams, illegal gambling, yung mga hacking, dyan, dyan, no?
07:41So, DICT, through its procurement, ito na ho yung binabantayan ho natin.
07:47And, with the shift of direction ng bago administrasyon ng DICT, mas nagiging mas mabilis at malinis yung procurement process natin.
07:54In fact, I think we're the only ones now that yung mga bids and awards sa meetings namin streamed online.
08:02So, yun ang gagawin natin.
08:04Asak sa panig naman po ng CICC, maglulunsad po ng isang rapid response channel para sa pababantay sa online content.
08:12Can you tell us more about this?
08:13Yes, opo. Yun yung pinag-usapan natin kanina. Meron ho tayong IARC na siguro, kung sa maraming mga kababayan natin hindi nakakaalam,
08:22ito yung CICC Action Center kung saan pwede ho tayong magsumbong.
08:25Ito yung ho yung hotline 13262 natin kung saan ho yung mga online scams, online fake news, yung mga ano.
08:34This is one of the safeguards na ipopromote ho natin. At kailangan ho natin palakasin.
08:39I think one of the problems with the CICC before and this particular response mechanism is,
08:45yung mga kababayan natin naghihiyang magsumbong na pag na-scam sila or nabibiktima sila.
08:51So, kailangan ho natin palakasin yung hotline 1326 at saka yung response entry natin na,
08:57unang-una, meron hung ganyan.
08:59Kailangan pa alam natin sa kababayan natin, mga kababayan natin,
09:02na meron hung hotline na matatakbuhan kayo.
09:04At second, may gagawin ang hotline na yun.
09:06So, merong response mechanism tayong ilalagay na pag nagsumbong kayo doon at nag-report kayo doon,
09:13we make sure that you have a feedback on status,
09:16ano yung huwing actions na tinik ng CICC, whether it's referred to another agency.
09:20So, kailangan nung ganun.
09:21We have to build trust again.
09:23Kasi kung wala yung trust, hindi magsusumbong sa atin yung mga kababayan natin,
09:25hindi magre-report.
09:26Even nga yung mga, ini-encourage nga natin, even mga hindi na-biktima eh.
09:29Yung tinatry lang mga biktima, i-report nyo para ma-block natin yung number na yan.
09:33Hindi naman kapang biktima ng ibang tao.
09:35And we have certain data from it na magkakapag-formulate tayo ng policies
09:39para paggandahin ang servisyo ng DICT at ng CICC sa ating mga kababayan.
09:44Pero siguro, as a cowboy, yung pagdating doon sa pagre-report,
09:50siguro one concern din among Filipinos is yung security.
09:53Kasi minsan, di ba, kapag ka lalamang biktima ka ng scam,
09:56minsan, ikaw pa yung ibabash.
09:58Siguro, how do we protect the privacy of these people?
10:02Eh, yun ho, importante sa amin.
10:03Kasi CICC and NPC are in one big family, the DICT family ho.
10:09Kami ho, nakakaya naman.
10:10So mga kapatid natin sa NPC, sa National Privacy Commission,
10:13kung kami mismo, i-violate natin yung trust na ibigay sa atin ng mga kababayan natin.
10:17We value yung trust.
10:19And that is what we want to build upon din eh.
10:22Na magtiwala ho sa atin yung ating mga kababayan.
10:24Na mag-report sa atin, na may gagawin ho tayo.
10:26At hindi ho namin ipagkakaluno yung tiwalang ibinigay niyo ho sa amin.
10:33I think it's important that we build the trust again
10:37para kung magkaroon ng mas maso po natin itong mga online scams na to
10:41at saka yung mga online harms na to.
10:42So, you know, to answer your question directly, Asik Dale,
10:47hindi ho, we have safeguards in place and being data custodians,
10:50we would not disclose and divulge any information that would be reported to the hotline 1326.
10:58Sinusulong din, Asik Abay ng DICT, yung digital bayanihan sa buong bansa.
11:02Pwede ka po bang mag-share ng ibang detalye patungkol dito?
11:05At ano po yung magiging role ng communities dito sa digital bayanihan?
11:10Well, it's very important ho, yung role ng communities.
11:13At saka itong promotion ho natin ng digital bayanihan.
11:15Eh kasi alam nyo naman ho, si Sir Henry, galing ano to eh, private sector to, galing pisa ko to eh.
11:20So, talagang pinupush forward natin na para to solve yung problema ho ng ating bansa,
11:25it's not only a whole-of-government approach, it's a whole-of-nation approach.
11:29So, we encourage participation and collaboration and cooperation with the private sectors.
11:34Kaya nga, kailangan, again, para ma-solve talaga yung problema ng buong bansa,
11:38not only in the digital sphere, but many of our problems.
11:42It's encouraging citizen participation, government services should be citizen-centric,
11:50kailangan yung collaboration and cooperation with other private entities
11:54para naman ho, pareho-pareho naman ho yung goal natin.
11:57And we move towards that goal.
11:59Asik, mensahin nyo na lang po o paalala sa ating mga kababayan?
12:03Ako, maraming maraming salamat ho sa inyo.
12:06At asahan nyo, ang tuto ko ng inyong bagong DICT is to make the internet safe for everyone.
12:13Kailangan good vibes lang ho.
12:16Alright, maraming salamat po sa inyong oras.
12:19DICT Spokesperson Assistant Secretary Renato Aboy Paraiso.
12:23Salamat din po.