The National Investigation Agency (NIA) is recreating the scene of the Pahalgam terror attack. NIA teams are questioning zipline operators, including one seen in a video saying 'Allah Hu Akbar' before gunshots were heard.
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00:00Good morning and welcome. You're watching India's Agenda. I'm Pooja Arshali. Thank you for tuning
00:15in this morning. Jammu and Kashmir is our top story. This bulletin first, the headlines.
00:23Behelgaam terrorists were trained Pakistani paracommandos, trained with the precision
00:28strikes that they inflicted on innocent Indians. High level of training, assault rifles,
00:35M4, AK-47 and more. We have details on that coming up.
00:43It's this, it's a rattled Pakistan, clearly with now showing what its military deployment
00:52already is happening, even though India hasn't even said anything on a military strike. Pakistan
00:58fears devastation, rushing to detect Indian airstripe, to move radar systems to the border.
01:09Horrific videos emerge from Behelgaam. This new viral video has sent shock waves across the country.
01:14For the first time, an aerial view of what was unfolding on the ground and people rushed to cover.
01:21The tourist unaware as he's in the air on a zip line about the massacre unfolding on the ground.
01:26Crucial evidence for investigators, but questions being raised as he's claiming that the operator
01:32of the zip line made a comment, a chant of Allah Akbar, even though he hadn't done it till the gunshots were fired.
01:44Sadly, till now, politicians who were all on the same page are starting to give bizarre statements.
01:49The Congress leadership distancing itself from Congress veteran Saifuddin Soz and other Congress
01:55MLAs as well from Maharashtra who've given out bizarre statements. A gag order has been issued.
02:00India making it very clear as the United Nations of what it has to say about Pakistan over Jammu Kishmi.
02:11India calls Pakistan a rogue state, that it fuels global terrorism, says Pakistan misuses international forums
02:18for lies and propaganda.
02:30A week since the Pahalgam terror carnage, N.I. investigation that is on as the teams have taken over the case files right now.
02:53And it is going to be a recreation in Baisaran.
02:57N.I. is questioning some of the zip line operators, especially one who has been seen in a video
03:05saying, Allah Akbar, before the zip line begins and after the gunshots can be heard.
03:10The zip line operator is under the lens he's been questioned as well.
03:14N.I. is also meanwhile gathering technical evidence from the attack video.
03:18And it's not just about one zip line operator or one tourist.
03:22The N.I. teams are consistently tracking as many eyewitness and survivor accounts as they can.
03:27Shreya Chatterjee joins me for the latest on that.
03:30Shreya, tell us what is the reason for the recreation?
03:34What is on agenda for the N.I.A. and why are they also questioning the zip line operators, the vendors, the shopkeepers who are present there?
03:47Well, you know, first and foremost, Pooja, this is also something that will be a part of a case that will be trying in the court.
03:53So that's the reason why the piecing together of evidence is extremely crucial for the National Investigative Agency.
03:59Also, remember during the first instance when they visited the crime scene, there is a possibility that you missed the gaps in between the chaos.
04:07So when you go in for recreating the scene, which is using your 3D mapping, your ballistic reports, even sometimes your laser things,
04:16there is expert, I mean, recreations that are done.
04:20So all these things are done to piece together evidence.
04:22Also, witness statements will be corroborated simultaneously with that.
04:26That's exactly what the news is trickling down, that this recreation of scenes started yesterday and it will be going on for some time now
04:33because they need to understand the vulnerable spots as well, where exactly and how this entire thing was carried out.
04:39So that is the reason why all these people will be questioned, including that zip line operator,
04:43because irrespective of the fact, what turns out, that's a very crucial piece of evidence that's finally surfaced.
04:48And the NIA will definitely try and get as much as they can a clarity based on both witness statements and also scientific recreation strategies
04:57to understand what exactly transpired, because this is not just going to help them in investigation,
05:02but also make a watertight case against the perpetrators of this crime.
05:07Remember that the country is looking at further investigations and the details to come out to, to really understand,
05:14despite this massive security grid, so much transformation in the valley, what happened?
05:18Shreya, tell me more about how they are looking at, of course the incident has happened, but to piece together in Baisaran,
05:25there are several teams of the NIA officials presently in the Kashmir Valley.
05:29And what will be specifically, do you think, their strategy?
05:33Are they looking at terrorists? Are they looking at sleeper cells?
05:37Are they looking at how to ensure, possibly, that this will not be repeated ever again in Kashmir?
05:47Well, that's exactly what is going to be the issue, because you know, once you understand the style of attack,
05:51because let's be clear that this was a very specific style of attack that was used to carry out to cause fear,
05:57cause terror amongst people and tourists, something that Kashmir hasn't seen really probably in long, long time.
06:03And that's exactly why the National Investigative Agency's first important thing would be to put the evidence together.
06:10As Pooja, you know, we've been hearing all the news trittled down.
06:13There are multiple witness accounts. There was a chaos that was carried out in Baisaran Valley
06:18when that terror attack was there. So witness statements also need to be corroborated with evidence.
06:24It cannot just be what the witnesses are saying.
06:26So that is the reason the recreation becomes extremely crucial.
06:30Simultaneously, once you identify the attack, it's also about how you can prevent them future.
06:35Because remember, we've also got understood about this fact that there are certain unguarded places in Kashmir,
06:40which will now be off the bound for tourists. But that's not going to be the case forever.
06:45So ensure that how these places need to be guarded, how the protection needs to be improved,
06:50that will also be depending largely on understanding this attack.
06:54And that's exactly what we are seeing the National Investigative Agency do right now.
06:58And we are not making any conjecture because this is the tourist who recorded the video.
07:08He has also raised a question. He's the one basically saying that there were,
07:13according to the video and according to him, that if the gunshots were heard,
07:16he was saying Allahu Akbar, which we later realized watching the video.
07:19And we also realized that he didn't say that before to our other family members who took the zipline.
07:25So how do you think possibly the NI is looking at the survivors as much as possibly who was present there on the spot?
07:33Because these are Pakistan terrorists sure, but there is been sadly the element of even if minuscule,
07:40but was there any local support?
07:46Pooja, you know Kashmir for all these years, we've covered the instances that has happened.
07:50It's impossible that such a kind of terror attack could have happened without local support.
07:55But that does not mean that you alienate an entire community.
07:58It's why putting the evidence on the perpetrators is extremely crucial.
08:03That is why our investigative agency is not just going on hearsay.
08:07They are going there, doing the hard work, recreating the scene.
08:11Yes, there can be questions on a security failure, but now everyone in the system is working together
08:16to ensure that we actually try and solve this issue once and for all.
08:21That's why that recreation of scene is extremely crucial.
08:23Our investigative agencies don't just go on hearsay, they go on hard facts.
08:27That's exactly why we see the NIA toiling on the ground, putting the piece together with 3D mapping,
08:33with laser technology, with anchor recreations of scene.
08:36All these things will be done over the couple of days.
08:39And be rest assured, having covered the NIA, I can say that this is going to be a watertight case
08:43and an example will be set one last time for the perpetrators hiding behind in Pakistan.
08:48And I can tell you that in these NIA teams are senior experienced officials
08:54who know Jammu Kashmir very well and be rest assured that they'll be getting to the bottom of this
08:59with the probe and we'll find out who was involved and how.
09:03Shreya, thank you very much for now.
09:05Because remember the teams from NIA have been recording statements of the victims, the survivors, the eyewitnesses and suspects.
09:13The NIA seeks to piece together the sequence of events, gather more information and importantly evidence
09:19to have a timeline on what exactly happened.
09:22India today has accessed the line of questioning as much by the NIA and what are the eyewitnesses for example being asked,
09:29especially the tourists of course here.
09:31When did you travel to Kashmir? What time did you reach?
09:34These are basic, this is to understand the timeline.
09:36Most of these tourists remember were on the last phase, on the last day in fact of their visit
09:41and that's why many of them did not expect what was unfolding barely minutes into that incident.
09:47Where were you exactly when the terrorists arrived?
09:51And for example, if you're with your family, what language did the terrorists come and speak?
09:57This could be very crucial.
09:59Now understand that someone from other states may not pick up on the nuances,
10:03but the language, the tone, the dialect, the accent can be of crucial evidence
10:08if the eyewitnesses and survivors are able to point it out to the investigators.
10:12It will help them understand precisely what part of Pakistan or if there was a local support here with regard to terrorists.
10:19Did you notice any sort of specific marks?
10:22And it's important for the viewer watching this.
10:25These are, remember, otherwise may look very minuscule, unimportant details,
10:30but these details help investigators heavily when it comes to probe.
10:34Did you see any sort of mark on the face, any details?
10:38Did you see weapons they carried?
10:40What did they look like?
10:41What were they speaking to you?
10:43How did you respond?
10:44What did they ask?
10:45More facial features, appearance, clothes, details that can help piece together for investigations in this case.
10:52I reiterate here that as a responsible channel, we're not putting out any details that can hamper the probe,
10:58but also important ones to help you understand how investigations are proceeding.
11:03And God forbid you are ever in this situation to try and point out details that can help the cops piece it together.
11:10Meer Fareed is joining me from Srinagar for the latest on that.
11:13Fareed, in many ways, it will be like a needle in the haystack for the investigators.
11:19The fact is, a week later, terrorists are at large.
11:21A lot of responses have come in, including going after active terrorist properties.
11:25But to be able to put together the timeline, to be able to go after the terrorists, how is the NIA proceeding with it?
11:31Well, Pooja, you know, NIA has a different role in this.
11:39They have to unearth the complete conspiracy.
11:42And NIA has the experience of many such terror cases where they start from scratch.
11:47They have their own protocol.
11:48They have their own ways of going about investigation.
11:52And that, obviously, is painstaking.
11:54It will take a long time.
11:55Our sources say there's a big NIA team in Pahlgam.
11:58And every day, they are touching one aspect of this particular case.
12:03Be it the spot visit, as we've been saying, the crime scene, to get evidence from there.
12:08Or talk in detail and ensure that each one of the people who were there, the locals, the service providers, the ponywalas,
12:19everyone has been spoken to, their details gathered.
12:22And each day, new people are summoned for questioning.
12:25So it is going to be a long investigation.
12:28But as far as short-term goals are concerned, there are separate operations that are ongoing.
12:33So this has to be dissected in different ways, where NIA will take over the probe, has taken over the probe,
12:41and is going to unearth this complete conspiracy each and every angle of this.
12:46On the other hand, you have short-term goals of eliminating the Falcon Squad of TRF and against whom the forces,
12:53the security forces army, is on their hot trail.
12:56And then you have the third layer of local police, local investigators, trying to unearth the OGW networks,
13:03the people who may have provided logistics, help, and not only for Pehel Gham, but overall,
13:10if there are people in the system who are out but are acting as OGW's help support staff or support system for these Lashkar and Jayash Carter,
13:21so they also need to be taken care of.
13:23So it is happening at multiple levels.
13:25But as of now, NIA is a huge dream in Pehel Gham and trying to gather each and every aspect evidence of this case.
13:33And then you have the operational side where in Pehel Gham and the surrounding areas, the jungles, everything is being scanned,
13:43not a spot being left by the security agencies as they search and as they go on the hot trail of the Falcon Squad or the people who executed this attack.
13:52All right, Fareed, the very important responsibility on the shoulders of the NIA officers who are presently in Kashmir,
14:00who are tracking, piecing together what happened, to really find out, despite all the efforts,
14:05how did the Baisaran massacre happen on 22nd April.
14:09We'll be tracking that and leaving it to the agencies to decide what precisely is the reality on what happened on the ground.
14:16I have more news coming.
14:22For anyone who has any doubts, Pakistan is not stopping.
14:27But it's a responsibility of the government now to ensure that Pakistan's actions, its efforts to disturb Kashmir again should not be successful.
14:36Intelligence chatter is being picked up that there will be more surge.
14:40On the target could be the police personnel, the minority Kashmiri pundits who continued to be targeted.
14:48Remember, whether it was in the 1990s or even after the abrogation of Article 370, there was clear target for and against Kashmiri pundits.
14:56Non-locals, whether it was a banker, Vijay Kumar, whether it was a labourer from Uttar Pradesh, were targeted once they were identified as non-locals.
15:07Now, remember, this is not to sound alarming, I reiterate, but it is important to understand that Pakistan is not done with one massacre.
15:15They'll infiltrate more terrorists, they'll activate their sleeper cells to try and harm more people.
15:22Terrorists, there are small weapons already with some of the sleeper cells and terrorists on the ground.
15:28The plot will be to target other employees in the valley as well.
15:33So, do expect that there could be a heightened security, there could be restriction in movements as well.
15:40And please understand that it's at a time like this that the security forces will be on the job to ensure no such incident happens again in the Kashmir Valley.
15:50Arvind Oja, joining me for the latest on that. Arvind, these days, you are reporting on Kashmir Valley.
15:57How do you see this intel note?
16:00And the pattern of Pakistan, it will be further?
16:06How do agencies spoil it?
16:08How do agents file, help them?
16:09How do you see this attack?
16:11How do agents file?
16:12How do agents file?
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16:14Again, there is a copy of India Today.
16:15And the idea of India Today.
16:16This one has a copy of India Today.
16:17In April, it is a copy of India Today.
16:18For you recall, the fires of April.
16:19It is a terrorist government that the attack on the region.
16:20After the attack, a terrorist terrorist terrorist that has been tracked,
16:25it has a little arms.
16:27And it is non-locals.
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17:01The government of the police, this is the police, the police to be alerted for the police.
17:06In the case of advisory, you see that the military's house is now in the case of the IED.
17:15The terrorist's house will be exposed to target killing.
17:19In the case of the internet, India Today has access to ISI's intelligence agencies,
17:28In Jammu Kashmir, the non-Kashmiri, non-local police, CID, railway officer, the terrorist can make a small arm from small arms.
17:43That's why Pooja got alert.
17:58It's available to many, have actually done that in the past few years, so there will be more caution that we can expect.
18:05Senior officers in the Jammu Kashmir police, in the agencies, have revealed that the kind of massacre that was carried out is not simply by a young, radicalized terrorist who's possibly recently taken up guns.
18:31These were trained army commandos, or at least that so appears, with regard to the manner in which the strategy was carried out and the way people were butchered.
18:4223 Hindus, 2 Christians and 1 local Kashmiri Muslim too.
18:45Latest findings do reveal that terrorists by the name of Hashim Musa, as the details are emerging as the agencies believe, was not just a terrorist, so to say.
18:56He was a regular member of the Pakistan army and had training in combat.
19:01And that you see in the manner in which the carnage was carried out.
19:05He was trained to use M4 assault rifles, for example, clearly evading capture right now.
19:11Intel report reveals that Pakistan could be planning more attacks.
19:14They will want to activate more sleeper cells.
19:16Because why should there be peace and normalcy?
19:18Why should there be, not just tourists, but why would Kashmiris not be in chaos and commotion that Pakistan could misuse all these decades?
19:25How are Kashmiris going on about their life with peace, with normalcy and a good future?
19:31The valley becoming fortified again.
19:34Remember, there could be restriction on movements.
19:36There have been some tourist spots that have been immediately shut in the aftermath.
19:40And areas from where boots on the ground had reduced.
19:43But with that massacre realization that Pakistan is going to use any loophole.
19:47India, remember, also has deployed certain strike units, special forces as well, to combat any of these terror attacks.
19:54But you can expect a heightened security in the days to come.
19:58At the Dull Lake, Gulmark, Srinagar and more.
20:00Congress is charging at the government with posters, words and more.
20:13But did they think this through?
20:17There is a poster that they appear to be throwing as a jibe to Prime Minister Modi.
20:24Now, what is so odd about this poster?
20:27Observers are immediately pointing out that while the poster says Gaya, which is missing, absent, targeting Prime Minister Modi.
20:36But what is the most eerie sort of visual that comes to your mind?
20:41Look at the Pakistan diplomat who showed a Sar Tanse Juda slaughter gesture to the Indian protesters.
20:49The Congress party, without showing a face, only a body, says Gaya.
20:54Who are they referring to?
20:56Observers say it is a jibe at the top leadership of the government, that it's Gaya, it's missing.
21:02But many are asking, didn't the Congress party think this through?
21:06Isn't this a messaging of, with a headless body, basically meaning the Sar Tanse Juda, which we know radical extremists are known to not just say, but do.
21:16And as recently, as a Pakistan diplomat, made that.
21:20And BJP is charging already at the Congress party.
21:24BJP's supporters and workers are saying this is a dog whistle.
21:29Appeasement of politics.
21:30They are inciting violence.
21:32Congress says Prime Minister Modi failed to take responsibility.
21:35We are only pointing that out.
21:37BJP says, you are supporting Sar Tanse Juda.
21:40Joining me now, Aishwarya Palewal for the latest on that.
21:43Aishwarya, tell me more about this poster.
21:46What is the BJP saying?
21:47How is the Congress defending it?
21:49Well, you know, Pooja BFC, now the Congress party ultimately had to come out with a gag order.
21:57They are now asking their leaders not to speak anything.
22:00In fact, the CWC came out with an official statement.
22:03The Congress President, Malika Arjun Kargay, the leader of the opposition, Rahul Gandhi,
22:06they are now telling the leaders to make sure that you stick to the statement,
22:09the initial statement that came in from the Congress party.
22:12But we are seeing this finger pointing and the tug of war taking place between the BJP and the Congress.
22:17With regards to Congress's poster, the BJP now saying that this exactly has been what you have been doing.
22:23Your policies are always supporting Pakistan and supporting terrorism.
22:28So a big charge being made by the BJP, especially with regards to the posters that are coming in.
22:32And we are also seeing how some of the Congress leaders, in fact, are saying that if Pakistan says
22:36that they are not involved in the terror attack, then we should take their word for it.
22:40So with regards to that, Congress also internally now trying to make sure that they somehow
22:44stop their leaders from making these kind of statements.
22:47The BJP obviously picking on these statements.
22:49And now with regards to this poster, pointing fingers at the Congress and saying
22:52that you have always supported terrorism.
22:54Shwira, tell me more about this political bickering.
22:57Now, of course, there will be understandably, there will be questions posed to the government at the center.
23:01What happened? What is the strategy?
23:03And that the opposition can do.
23:05But when it comes to bizarre statements, even questioning the survivors,
23:08showing a headless body, saying gaya in the backdrop of a slaughter gesture by Pakistan diplomat.
23:15Tell us about the political bickering that started, which appeared for a week, was not happening.
23:24Well, you know, we did see, Pooja, how all the opposition parties were very, very measured.
23:29And we did see the opposition parties, especially, you know, giving out a very measured response,
23:34telling the government that we are standing behind you.
23:36And almost for a week, we have seen that happening.
23:39But now the biggest opposition parties of all, the Congress party, some of the leaders making these kind of statements,
23:43these kind of posters coming out.
23:45The government, Pooja, understands what has happened.
23:47And that's the reason why you are seeing the NIA now looking into it.
23:50And since the attack, we have seen how houses are being blown up.
23:54A list of terrorists has been made.
23:56The government making sure that they do everything in their power.
23:59The Prime Minister has been very, very clear that we will not let this go.
24:02On all the platforms, India is now pointing fingers at Pakistan,
24:05making sure that the global community now looks at Pakistan and asks Pakistan the question
24:10why they have become a safe haven for these kind of activities.
24:14So those things are being done by the BJP.
24:16But yes, the opposition, especially the Congress party, coming out with these kind of posters,
24:21it definitely is raising fingers.
24:22The BJP saying that you have always supported terrorism.
24:25And what you are doing now is also just a glimpse of your policies.
24:29Tell me more about this, Ashwarya, about this video that we are looking at.
24:32Because I'm trying to ascertain, is this by a state unit of Congress that has put out,
24:39what is the AICC saying about it?
24:42Was this officially approved by their social media chief
24:45to be able to put out?
24:47Because they say we are only asking Modi for a responsibility, accountability.
24:51He is missing in action.
24:52BJP says really a headless body at a time when the massacre has happened,
24:57where people were shot on the head and then a gesture of slaughter by park diplomats.
25:01So how is the AICC, the senior leadership of the Congress, responding to all of this?
25:06Well, Pooja, let me tell you, at the moment, the Congress party is mum.
25:13A gag order, obviously, has been placed.
25:16The Congress party believes that there is only one official statement.
25:18The statement that was discussed at the CWC, that's the official statement
25:22that Malika Arjun Kargay, the Congress president, came out with.
25:25But yes, these kind of posters, ill-timed, best to say.
25:28But some heads will definitely roll because the Congress understands what this means.
25:32And they have been very measured, standing behind the BJP.
25:35But we are seeing, at least for the past 24 hours,
25:38some of the Congress leaders have been making these kind of comments.
25:41If you remember, Pooja, Shashi Tharoor also gave out a very measured response.
25:44But within the Congress party also, some of the people were not happy
25:47with what Shashi Tharoor had said.
25:49So we are seeing those kind of tug-of wars taking place in the Congress party.
25:53Heads definitely will roll.
25:55Malika Arjun Kargay, the Congress president, LOP Rahul Gandhi,
25:58let me tell you from what we are understanding,
25:59very, very upset with these leaders, making these kind of loose comments
26:02because what has happened is very, very unfortunate.
26:04I say this, Aishwara, I can see, I can confirm,
26:06this was officially by the INC India handle,
26:09which is, remember the national unit,
26:11so it's not like a state unit or some supporter worker had put it out.
26:14This visual was officially put out by the party handle.
26:18And remember, like Aishwara is pointing out,
26:20Shashi Tharoor, Asad Udunawaisi of the AIMIM,
26:24staunch in opposition to Modi government,
26:27but made very measured statements when it came to, at least, the politics of India.
26:32However, in the backdrop of how Vijay Waditwar, the Congress MLA, has made a comment,
26:37Siddharth Amaya's minister and one of the leaders in Congress has made a very bizarre comment.
26:42Remember, you can question the government,
26:43but to be questioning the survivors,
26:46their trauma, their accounts,
26:49and placing that at a time with a poster of a headless body,
26:53was there enough research not done,
26:55at least in the background of how people have been shot in the head,
26:58literally, in front of their family members,
27:01and then put it out?
27:02Or is this fair game?
27:03Viewer, I leave it to decide.
27:05About, do you think that it's simply a poster pinning responsibility,
27:09or there were many ways possible,
27:11even the opposition to us,
27:12that what is the Modi government doing about it?
27:15Who will be held accountable?
27:16So, the BJP says,
27:18this is a deliberate attempt to throw a jibe.
27:22It's a throat-slitting gesture.
27:23It's a dog whistle for voting appeasement.
27:26Congress is inciting violence on Modi.
27:28Congress says,
27:30we are only asking Prime Minister Modi,
27:32who failed to take responsibility.
27:35We are also putting out for you,
27:37what Congress MLA, Vijay Waditwar, also said,
27:41and in many ways,
27:42remember,
27:43all of this has been quoted,
27:44even by Pakistan handles.
27:46A Pakistan leader endorsing Congress's Gaia post,
27:56not something that Pakistan leaders,
27:59that Congress would have liked right now.
28:02That a Pakistan leader,
28:03former minister,
28:04remember,
28:04this is not ordinary leader,
28:06Fawad Hussain has been a former minister in Pakistan,
28:09a senior minister,
28:10in fact.
28:10that he decides to repost on social media,
28:14reposting,
28:15basically also showing a certain endorsement.
28:18He then appreciates the naughty Congress.
28:22A jibe when the country is in mourning.
28:25Aishwarya,
28:26I bring you in here.
28:28Pakistan is clearly tracking,
28:30whether there are influencers,
28:33there are leaders,
28:33who are making some comment,
28:35that they are readily picking up on.
28:38And it's happened,
28:38Fawad Hussain,
28:39very active on social media,
28:40SITEX,
28:41picks on this.
28:42Do you think BJP is going to absolutely jump on this?
28:48Well,
28:49definitely,
28:49you know,
28:50we will see the Bharti Janta party,
28:51pointing fingers,
28:52and saying that these are exactly the kind of statements,
28:54that should not be coming from India.
28:56And see,
28:56Pakistan,
28:57Pooja,
28:57obviously,
28:57on all the global platforms.
28:59In fact,
28:59they went ahead and said,
29:01that you should be asking the army,
29:02where was the army?
29:03That is what Pakistan is saying,
29:04that you cannot be blaming us.
29:06Completely spooked,
29:07Pooja,
29:08if that's a word that I can use for Pakistan,
29:10at the moment,
29:10they are completely spooked.
29:12But yes,
29:12the one question,
29:13that we are seeing coming in from Pakistan,
29:15now that they are asking India,
29:17that if your own leaders are saying like this,
29:19then you need to look at what exactly is happening in India,
29:21because Pakistan does not want the global spotlight,
29:24to be on what's happening there.
29:27They are spooked,
29:27and we are seeing these kind of statements,
29:29coming in from the top leaders.
29:30They in fact are telling the world,
29:32that India might try to make sure,
29:34that somehow incursions happen.
29:36Internally also,
29:37Pakistani leaders have been making statements,
29:39telling the people,
29:39that it is India that is at fault,
29:41and saying that India should actually be asking questions,
29:44they should be looking at the loopholes,
29:46instead of pointing fingers at Pakistan.
29:48So this definitely is something,
29:49that the BJP does not want coming in,
29:51from any political party,
29:52from any leader,
29:53especially given the number of people,
29:55who were massacred on 22nd of April.
29:57Alright,
29:57so this is what has come in,
29:59a Pakistan leader,
30:00also now appreciating,
30:02sharing these images,
30:03and this remember,
30:05is a realization in many ways,
30:09about how careful,
30:10some in the opposition,
30:12also have to be.
30:14So that is what has happened,
30:15and this remember,
30:17is at a time,
30:18when political bickering,
30:20is going on.
30:20Now,
30:21there is a gag order,
30:22remember though,
30:23to not make bizarre comments.
30:25Questioning Prime Minister Modi,
30:26or the Modi government,
30:27is an understandable opposition strategy,
30:29that will happen.
30:31But,
30:31can you really put out,
30:32a headless body at a time,
30:35when people have been shot in the head,
30:36when Sartan Seh Jooda,
30:38slaughter gestures are being thrown out,
30:40by Pakistan diplomats,
30:43no less,
30:43an army officer,
30:44no less,
30:44and where Pakistan,
30:45remember with its radical extremists,
30:47have been known,
30:48to target,
30:50individuals,
30:52innocent people,
30:53even soldiers,
30:54with regard,
30:55to these torture,
30:57that we have reported,
30:58in the past as well.
31:00So that is what has happened,
31:01we are staying on,
31:02with this big story.
31:03Tell me more about,
31:05what the BJP is saying,
31:06on this Aishwarya,
31:08because BJP,
31:09even though there has been,
31:10as like you are rightly pointing out,
31:12Rahul Gandhi,
31:13and Malika Arjun Khadgi,
31:14are not happy,
31:15with the comments,
31:15that are coming in,
31:17and with the bizarre statements,
31:18even questioning survivors,
31:19by some of the leaders,
31:20like Saifuddin Sos,
31:21and Vijay Waditwar.
31:22But despite all of this,
31:24some faux pas,
31:25comes at a time,
31:26from Congress.
31:27How do you think,
31:27the BJP will escalate that,
31:29especially?
31:34Well,
31:34BJP has always been,
31:36looking at Congress,
31:36and saying that,
31:37you should see,
31:38what happened,
31:38when you were ruling.
31:40We at the moment,
31:41are trying to make sure,
31:41that we minimize the damage,
31:43and also,
31:43we will give a befitting reply.
31:45If you remember,
31:45Prime Minister Narendra Modi,
31:47was in Bihar,
31:48he spoke in Hindi,
31:49and then especially,
31:49to give the world,
31:50a message,
31:51that India will not,
31:52let this go.
31:53Spoke in English,
31:54and said,
31:54that we will go,
31:55to the ends of the world,
31:56to find out,
31:57who did this,
31:57and this time,
31:58we will not leave,
31:59any single person.
32:00All the people,
32:01from the starting,
32:02of,
32:03you know,
32:03who began,
32:04with this,
32:05the people who were there,
32:06who killed them,
32:07everyone,
32:08will now be looked at,
32:09and that's the reason,
32:10why we are seeing,
32:10these kind of lists,
32:11also being made.
32:1214 of the people,
32:13now,
32:13at government target agencies,
32:15are closing in,
32:16so all those are the things,
32:17that the government,
32:18at the moment,
32:18is looking at,
32:19but when these kind of statements,
32:20these kind of pictures,
32:21come in from the Congress,
32:22it actually gives Pakistan,
32:24some kind of breathing space.
32:26They are now,
32:26picking it up,
32:27and saying,
32:28that we had seen,
32:29how Gadeke,
32:30sirse seeng gaya hai,
32:31but now,
32:32what we are seeing,
32:32and this is what,
32:33a Pakistani minister is saying,
32:34that now we are seeing,
32:35that it is Prime Minister Modi,
32:36whose face,
32:37whose bureau face,
32:38has been removed,
32:39by none other,
32:40than the Congress party,
32:41so this definitely,
32:42will be the beginning,
32:43of big war of wars,
32:44between the BJP,
32:45and the Congress,
32:45Congress yes,
32:46definitely will have to,
32:47find a way,
32:48to damage control this,
32:49the gag order,
32:50already in place,
32:51but now,
32:51without any statements,
32:52Pakistan leader,
32:54he has been a PTI leader,
32:56he was a former minister,
32:57as well in the government,
32:58and he has,
32:59made a very objectionable,
33:00statement though,
33:01a jibe,
33:02a joke,
33:03and then has given a hashtag,
33:04a naughty Congress,
33:07BJP is attacking,
33:08this post,
33:09by the INC India,
33:11social media handle,
33:12and BJP says,
33:14Congress neetahs,
33:15are like Pakistan's,
33:16sleeper cells,
33:18viewers,
33:18political bickering,
33:19has started for a week,
33:20all politicians,
33:21were all on the same page,
33:22but Congress and BJP,
33:23are at it this time,
33:24and it's not simply,
33:25about questioning,
33:26the government,
33:26it's taking turns,
33:28to a level,
33:29where perhaps,
33:29it's not only embarrassing,
33:31but Pakistan,
33:32is picking on this,
33:33the BJP,
33:34has now put out,
33:35that poster,
33:35in turn,
33:36BJP says,
33:37Congress neetahs,
33:38are acting like,
33:38Pakistan's sleeper cells,
33:39they are giving cover fire,
33:40for Pakistan terrorists,
33:42it's a new low,
33:43at a time when,
33:44remember,
33:44the country should be united,
33:46now what has happened is,
33:47look closely on the screen,
33:48what the BJP did,
33:49not wasting any time,
33:51has picked on the faces,
33:52from the Congress,
33:54whether Maharashtra,
33:55Jammu Kashmir,
33:56or including,
33:57from Karnataka,
33:58that they have made,
33:59bizarre comments,
33:59like questioning,
34:00survivor accounts,
34:01at least,
34:02two to three leaders said,
34:04including Vijay Vaditwar,
34:05and the one,
34:06from Karnataka,
34:08I don't believe,
34:09Hindu religion was asked,
34:10I don't think,
34:11the terrorists,
34:11have the time,
34:12to stand there,
34:13and ask for a religion,
34:14they were just simply,
34:16targeting,
34:17and simply,
34:17were firing,
34:18if it was simply,
34:19firing,
34:20remember,
34:21specifically,
34:2123 Hindus,
34:22and two Christians,
34:23wouldn't have died,
34:24survivors have maintained,
34:25that their religion was asked,
34:27then,
34:27Saifuddin Soz,
34:28who had said,
34:28if the Pakistan,
34:29as a nation,
34:30are saying,
34:31that they haven't done,
34:33this massacre,
34:33we should take the word for it,
34:34we should continue talks,
34:36that's why,
34:37the congress leadership saying,
34:38hold your horses,
34:40this is not the time,
34:41to be giving out the statements,
34:42all these faces now,
34:43Aishwarya,
34:44on a poster,
34:46saying PR agents,
34:47so BJP also,
34:48remember,
34:48BJP government,
34:49is also facing the heat,
34:50over what happened,
34:52in Pahlgaam,
34:52but it's the political,
34:53bickering between,
34:54congress and BJP,
34:55we are at it again,
34:56what is the need of the hour,
35:03that's something,
35:03that all the political parties,
35:04should be asking,
35:05the need of the hour,
35:06is to make sure,
35:07that we stand behind,
35:08India,
35:09that we stand behind,
35:10what the government,
35:11is doing,
35:11because the idea,
35:12is very very clear,
35:13to give a befitting reply,
35:14to Pakistan,
35:15everyone knows,
35:16in our country,
35:17globally,
35:17everyone knows,
35:18that it is Pakistan,
35:19that's the state,
35:20that is behind,
35:20this terror attack,
35:21that has taken place,
35:2226 innocent people,
35:24who were out there,
35:25they were killed,
35:26because of terrorism,
35:27they were singled out,
35:29Hindus were being,
35:30looked at,
35:30they were being asked,
35:31to recite the Kalmas,
35:32all these things,
35:33this is the need of the hour,
35:35but these kind of posters,
35:36these kind of statements,
35:37actually show,
35:38that India is not united,
35:39and this is exactly,
35:40Pooja,
35:40what Pakistan also,
35:41at the moment,
35:42is looking at,
35:42that's why you are seeing,
35:44Favad Khan,
35:44so quick at picking it up,
35:46congress handle,
35:47and retweeting about it,
35:48and saying,
35:49that you know,
35:49we have seen a lot of things,
35:51but seeing this,
35:51for the first time,
35:52Prime Minister Modi's face,
35:54has been removed,
35:55by the Congress party,
35:55the BJP,
35:56let me tell you,
35:57will not let this go,
35:57but also,
35:58this points fingers,
36:00at the opposition parties,
36:02they need to be measured,
36:03in their response,
36:03they need to be quiet,
36:04at the moment,
36:05and seek answers,
36:06yes,
36:07definitely seek answers,
36:08but at the appropriate time,
36:09at the moment,
36:10the focus,
36:10should be to make sure,
36:11that each and every perpetrator,
36:13is killed,
36:13and justice,
36:14is given to those 28 families.
36:16It's not just about,
36:17Fawad Hussain Chaudhary,
36:18it's also about,
36:19all Pakistan leaders,
36:20and Pakistan social media,
36:22on online,
36:24social media handles,
36:25are indulging,
36:25in a misinformation warfare,
36:27and I say that,
36:28because viewer,
36:29Pakistan has nothing better to do,
36:31they are tracking,
36:32how Indians are reacting,
36:34so,
36:34if there are,
36:35certain objectionable statements,
36:37that are coming in,
36:38Pakistan is amplifying it,
36:40to say,
36:41look,
36:41India did it,
36:42look,
36:42India is lying,
36:43look,
36:44Indians are lying,
36:45look,
36:45Modi government,
36:45has done this,
36:46and therefore,
36:47perhaps,
36:48it's very pertinent,
36:49that there may be,
36:50political question,
36:51and answers,
36:52and accountability,
36:52that will be asked,
36:54but,
36:55do the netas,
36:56at least,
36:56have to be a little more sensitive,
36:58when you're talking about,
36:59people,
37:00who were shot in the head,
37:02women and children,
37:02who watched their fathers,
37:04who watched their family members,
37:06butchered in front of them,
37:08I leave this to you,
37:09to the viewer,
37:10to decide,
37:11is this an apt image,
37:12about,
37:13referring to,
37:14as clearly it appears,
37:15the top leadership of the government,
37:17a headless body,
37:18saying missing,
37:20and then BJP comes in,
37:21with congress is equal to,
37:23Pakistan's PR agents,
37:32and why this is concerning,
37:34remember,
37:34this isn't just about,
37:35a headless body,
37:36there's a lot of background,
37:38a pattern to it,
37:39not only about,
37:40the gory details,
37:41of the massacre on the ground,
37:43but also,
37:43with a Pakistan diplomat,
37:46holding,
37:47one of our officers images,
37:49and then to the Indian protesters,
37:52out on the streets,
37:53outside Pakistan commission,
37:54this is from London,
37:56gestures of clothes,
37:57written,
37:58gestures of slaughter,
38:00remember,
38:01there is a certain,
38:02dignity that comes,
38:03with a diplomatic position,
38:05especially when you're,
38:06from the army,
38:07irrespective,
38:07even Pakistan army,
38:08or Indian army,
38:10there is a dignity,
38:10that comes,
38:11to individuals,
38:12of that stature,
38:13but,
38:16when you can,
38:17show a slaughter,
38:18a gesture like that,
38:19and then a poster,
38:20like this comes in,
38:22it begs a question,
38:24are those,
38:24in social media team,
38:26of Congress party,
38:27not thinking this through,
38:29Sardar,
38:29R.P. Singh is joining me,
38:30from the BJP,
38:31on the phone line,
38:33R.P. Singh,
38:33let me ask you this,
38:35what is wrong,
38:35with this poster,
38:36asking that,
38:38your leadership is missing,
38:39is Gaya,
38:40that's why,
38:41the Congress party,
38:41has put out this poster,
38:42asking questions,
38:43to the Modi government,
38:44well,
38:46this clearly shows,
38:47their intent,
38:48that they are supporting,
38:49a particular community,
38:50Sartan Sajoda community,
38:51which chanted,
38:52the slogan of Sartan Sajoda,
38:53and they are trying to,
38:55send a message to them,
38:57that we are with you,
38:58and also,
38:59that one hand,
39:00they say that,
39:00we are with the government,
39:01in the meeting,
39:02they categorically,
39:03said they are with the government,
39:03another hand,
39:04the leaders,
39:05come and openly,
39:06support Pakistan,
39:07so for them shows,
39:08so for them shows,
39:09this is a important thing,
39:10that let's accept,
39:11the version of the Pakistan,
39:14if they are saying,
39:14that they are not involved,
39:16let's accept,
39:16that they are not involved,
39:17other leaders,
39:18Siddhar Ramayya,
39:19and others are raising questions,
39:21one of the leaders,
39:21from Himachal,
39:23is saying that,
39:24this is all being,
39:26done with,
39:27mutual understanding,
39:30so this clearly shows,
39:31that what is the real intent,
39:33I mean,
39:33they are,
39:34the supporters of Pakistan,
39:35they are people,
39:36who do double speak,
39:38one hand they say that,
39:39we are with the government of India,
39:40on the other hand,
39:41they hold the dagger at the back,
39:42and then,
39:43whenever the instructions come,
39:44they hit the,
39:46the government of India,
39:47or they hit the,
39:47the intent of the government,
39:50Siddhar Ramayya,
39:50he is saying the,
39:51party president,
39:52Malika Arjun Khadge,
39:54LOP Rahul Gandhi,
39:55seem to be reportedly upset,
39:57with these bizarre comments,
39:58that are coming in,
39:59they say that,
40:00it is clearly not,
40:01what the congress party,
40:02is saying,
40:03officially,
40:03then what do you think,
40:04is happening?
40:06Well,
40:07as I said,
40:08they have,
40:09one side,
40:10they say,
40:11they are supporting the government,
40:13and other side,
40:13people like Sos,
40:14say that,
40:15let's accept the version of the Pakistan,
40:17as,
40:17he has a proper brief from Pakistan,
40:20on what is happening,
40:22and this,
40:22and this,
40:23poster of their,
40:24or this tweet of their,
40:26clearly shows that,
40:27what they intend to do,
40:29when they,
40:29are being quoted,
40:31this tweet has been quoted,
40:32by the politicians,
40:34and the people,
40:35in social media,
40:35in Pakistan,
40:36their leader's statement,
40:38has been quoted,
40:39by the leaders in Pakistan,
40:40I remember,
40:41after,
40:42the abrogation of C-77,
40:43the next day,
40:44Mr. Raul Gandhi,
40:46went on record,
40:46and said that,
40:47there's bloodbath,
40:47which is happening in Kashmir,
40:49and the same was quoted,
40:50by Imran Khan,
40:51in the UN Assembly,
40:52so,
40:53this is their,
40:54ongoing habit,
40:55I mean,
40:56they,
40:56one hand,
40:57one hand,
40:58they would say,
40:58that we support the government,
40:59of India,
41:00or we support the India,
41:00another hand,
41:01they speak the language,
41:02of Pakistan,
41:03I mean,
41:03they are holding dagger,
41:04at their back.
41:05All right,
41:06R.P. Singh,
41:06BJP spokesperson,
41:08thank you,
41:08for your views,
41:10remember,
41:10it's one aspect,
41:11to question the government,
41:13or the ruling party,
41:14another to question,
41:14survivors who are in trauma,
41:16and to Vijay Vaditwar's point,
41:18there are,
41:19literally,
41:20from Pune,
41:21from Maharashtra,
41:22the survivors,
41:23who have said,
41:25that there was,
41:26religion asked,
41:27karma was asked,
41:27to be recited,
41:28Islamic verses,
41:29and when,
41:30of course,
41:30the victims could not,
41:32they were shot dead,
41:32what is happening,
41:33with some of our leaders,
41:34what is with this insensitivity,
41:37listen in now though,
41:38to what senior leaders,
41:39of the congress party,
41:40are saying right now,
41:41we are going to be,
42:13There is now a demand that has come in from the Congress party to have a special parliament session
42:40where solidarity, unity, collective voice can come in and a discussion on what happened in Pahlga.
42:48But two Congress leaders, in fact I would say three, have led to a lot of headache for the senior leadership.
42:55Remarks have triggered an uproar in political circles.
42:58Senior Congress leader from Jammu Kashmir, who is literally a Congress veteran, Saifuddin Sos,
43:02appears to say that if Pakistan claims they have no role, we should take their word for it.
43:07Then there is Vijay Vaditwar, who is even questioning the survivor accounts of that,
43:13that there was clearly communal overtone here.
43:16Sources are telling us that the senior leadership, Malikar Junkhargay Party President, LOP Rahul Gandhi,
43:22have given out a gag order, also adding that CWC resolution has been cleared,
43:27that's only party's official stand and to not make these bizarre objectionable comments.
43:31Malikar Junkhargay even responded to questions on Congress' patriotism being questioned by the BJP.
43:37He said Indira and Rajiv Gandhi have sacrificed their life for India.
43:42Congress doesn't have to elaborate on patriotism.
44:01As we know the╨░╤В╨╡╨╗╨╕ of the war, we have to maintain the support of the army as well.
44:11Now we are from a long time alone.
44:14Congress does not have to elaborate on the rights of this issue.
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44:41рдХреЙрдВрдЧреНрд░реЗрд╕ рдХреЗ рдХреБрдЫ рдиреЗрддрд╛ рддреЛ рдЖрдИрдПрд╕рд╛рдИ рдХреЗ рд╕рд╛рде рдЦрдбрд╝реЗрдВ рдЪреАрди рдХреЗ рд╕рд╛рде рдЦрдбрд╝реЗрдВ рдФрд░ рдЪреАрди рдкрд╛рдХрд┐рд╕реНрддрд╛рди рдХреЗ рд╕рд╛рде рдЦрдбрд╝рд╛ рд╣реИ рдпреЗ рджреБрд░рднрд╛рдЧ рдЧрдпрд╛ рдЗрд╕ рд▓реЛрдЧрдд рдЕрдВрддрд░рдХрд╛
44:51рдЗрд╕реА рд╕реНрдерд┐рддреА рдореЗрдВ рдиреЗрддрд╛рдУрдВ рд╕реЗ рдкреНрд░рд╛рд░реНрдердирд╛ рд╣реИ рдХрд┐ рдХрдо рд╕реЗ рдХрдо рд░рд╛рдЬрдиреЗрддрд┐рдХ рдмрдпрд╛рди рдордд рджреАрдЬрд┐рдП рдЕрднреА рд╕рдорд┐рдХреНрд╖рд╛ рдХрд╛ рд╡рдХреНрдд рдирд╣реАрдВ рд╣реИ рдЕрднреА рдкреАрдбрд┐рдд рдкрд░рд┐рд╡рд╛рд░ рдХреЗ рд╕рд╛рде рдЦрдбрд╝рд╛ рд░рд╣рдирд╛ рдФрд░ рджреЗрд╢ рдХреА рдЬрдирддрд╛ рдХреА рдЬреЛ рдЙрдореАрдж рд╣реИ рдХрд┐ рдкрд░рддрд┐рдХрд╛рд░ рд╣реЛ рдЬрд┐рди рд▓реЛрдЧреЛрдВ рдиреЗ рдРрд╕реА рджреБрд╢рд╛рд╕рд┐рдХ рдШрдЯрдирд╛ рдХреА рд╣реИ рдЙрд╕рдХреЛ рдЬрдо
45:21рд╣рдо рдирд╣реАрдВ рдЙрддрд╛рд░рддреЗ рд╣реИрдВ рд╣рдорд╛рд░рд╛ рдХреЛрдИ рд░рд╡рдпрд╛ рдЖрдЬ рддрдХ рдХрд╛рдВрдЧреНрд░реЗрд╕ рдкрд╛рд░реНрдЯреА рдХрд╛ рд░рд╛рд╖реНрдЯрд░ рдХреЗ рд╣реАрдд рдореЗрдВ рдХрднреА рднреА рд╕реМрдкреНрдЯ рдЕрдкреНрд░реЛрдЪ рдирд╣реАрдВ рд░рд╣рд╛ рд╡реЛрдИ рдХрд╛рдВрдЧреНрд░реЗрд╕ рдкрд╛рд░реНрдЯреА рдХреА рдкреНрд░рдзрд╛рди рдордВрддрд░реА рдереА рдЗрдВрджрд┐рд░рд╛рдЬреА рдЬрд┐рд╕рдиреЗ рдкрд╛рдХрд┐рд╕реНрддрд╛рди рдХреЗ рджреЛ рдЯреБрдХрдбреЗ рдХрд░ рджрд┐рдпреЗ рдкрд░ рдЙрд╕рдХреЗ рдирд╛рдо рдкреЗ рдлреМрдЬ рдХреА рдмрд╛
45:51рдЯрд┐рдпреЗ рдЧреНрд▓реА рдЯреЗрдХреНрдЯреА рдХрд╛ рд╡рд╕реЗ рдХрд╛рдВрдЧреНрд░реЗрд╕ рдлрдЪреНрдЯреА рдХрд╛ рдбрд╛рд╕ рд▓рд┐рдП рдЭрд╛рд▓рдВрд╡рд╛ рдмрд╛рдЪрд╛рдВрдЧреНрд░реЗрд╕ рд╡рд┐рдбрд╝рд╛рдЧреНрд░рдорд╛рд┐рди рдкрд╛рд░реНрдЯреА рдХрд╛ рдЪреАрдВрдЯреВ рдкрд░ рд▓реЗрдп рдЪреМрдХрд╛ рдпреВрдЬ рдХрдШрдЬрдореЗрдВрд╡рд╛рд░ рд╕реЗ рд▓рд┐рдП рдкреА рдЭрд╛рд▓рдиреА рдбрд┐рдХрд╛ рд▓рд┐рдд рдЕрд░ рдЯреЛрд░реНрдЯреА рдХрд╛ рдХреА рдмрд╛рдиреЗ рдЗрддред
46:16It's not even been a week since Pakistani terrorists killed 26 tourists in Kashmir's
46:24Pahlgaam.
46:25Every survivor had the same horror story to tell.
46:32Non-Hindus were specifically targeted.
46:35But some congressnetas still choose to believe that this hunting of Hindus by terrorists
47:01couldn't be possible.
47:31Then there was veteran congress leader Saifuddin Sos who was more worried about the fate of
47:45Pakistan.
47:46Whatever the condition, whatever the situation on surface, dialogue and discussion has to
47:55take place.
47:56So many countries of the world can help us.
48:00Even the United Nations, they will help us to open the dialogue and discussion.
48:05Pakistan can be told clearly that you can't have it both ways.
48:13Karnataka chief minister also triggered outrage.
48:16Karnataka chief minister also triggered outrage.
48:20The back-to-back statements by congress leaders provided fresh ammunition to the BJP.
48:41The back-to-back statements by congress leaders provided fresh ammunition to the BJP.
48:48The back-to-back statements by the
49:18qq.
49:19The back-to-back statements by the
49:47The Congress has distanced itself from the controversial comments of its netas.
50:09What we have said, there have been security lapses, there have been intelligence failures.
50:15However, we need unity, we need solidarity, we need a collective will, we need a collective
50:22response and we need constant communication between the government and the opposition.
50:31At a time when India is seething and demanding action against Pakistan and its terror proxies,
50:38shouldn't the country's politicians unite?
50:43Bureau Report, India Today.
50:55No Supreme Court relief for the former Gujarat top cop.
50:58The Supreme Court denied bail to former IPS officer Sanjeev Bhatt.
51:02Sanjeev Bhatt has been serving a life term in a 1990 custody death case.
51:08Supreme Court though has expedited Bhatt's plea against the life term.
51:12Also, so this remember has, and this is not just simply an ordinary case, this has had
51:18political overtones.
51:20Also, while it was a very serious case of custody death in 1990 and in the past few years since
51:28the arrest there have been bails that have been denied for the former IPS officer.
51:34But it had been, especially with regard to BJP and opposition, political bickering on this
51:42as well.
51:43A legal correspondent Anisha Mathur joins me for the latest on that.
51:46Anisha, go ahead, what is the reasoning this time, give us details.
51:54The court has declined to grant bail or suspend the life sentence that was imposed on a former
52:11IPS officer Sanjeev Bhatt.
52:13So, remember this is a custodial death case that dates back to 1990 when he was the additional
52:20assistant superintendent to police in Jamnagar, where about 140 odd people had been taken
52:26into custody when riots had broken out in Jamnagar after L.K. Advani's Yatra.
52:32Now, one of these persons who was taken into custody, Prabhuda Vaishnani, he succumbed to his
52:39injuries.
52:40He allegedly was injured due to assault in the jail while in police custody and he died
52:47about 18 days after he was arrested.
52:51Following that, an FIR was registered against Sanjeev Bhatt and several other police personnel
52:57and in 2024, the Gujarat High Court had upheld the life sentence against Sanjeev Bhatt and other
53:06police personnel.
53:07Today, after almost a year of hearing, the Supreme Court has declined bail but has said
53:12that the appeal against her conviction will be heard in an expeditious manner.
53:17Anisha will be tracking all the latest on that.
53:19I think.
53:20I think.
53:21I think that I do think it's a good thing.
53:22I think it's a good thing.
53:23I think that that's going to be a good thing.
53:24I think that's I agree with you.