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00:00It is 93.3 WMMR in Philadelphia. I'm Pierre Robert, and we welcome you to our latest MMR Archive session.
00:07We're also very pleased to debut our brand new performance space here at the station.
00:12We have a live audience and an amazing group of musicians to help us break this room in properly.
00:18As you probably know, they hail from the fine village of New Orleans.
00:21They began their musical journey together back in 2007.
00:24Now the story's been told many times before of how Zach Feinberg met David Shaw.
00:29Zach was riding his bicycle home. He took an alternate route.
00:33He heard a guy playing guitar on his porch. He stopped to listen for a while.
00:37He went to talk to that guy. That guy was David, and that was the very beginning.
00:42Then with the addition of other extraordinary musicians, Ed, Rob, George, Andrew, Michael, and PJ,
00:48they are now a band, and they were off and running.
00:51In 2008, they released their first self-titled independent record.
00:55In 2010 came Vital Signs. That was followed in 2012 with City of Sound.
01:00Then it was the real breakthrough that came on a much larger level in 2015 when Men Amongst Mountains and the single Wish I Knew You arrived.
01:10Next in 2018 was Take Good Care featuring a wonderful song among many, but the song All My Friends was featured on that record.
01:18There were also a few visits to legendary Muscle Shoals Studios for recordings that were released in 2020 and then again last summer in 2022.
01:27They'll be at the Man Music Center on July 12th with A Head and the Heart, but now in 2023, they are back with a brand new record, Pour It Out Into the Night.
01:36It is out. It's in the record stores today, and it's a great pleasure to welcome back to Philadelphia and to WMMR, The Revivalists.
01:43It's good to be here, y'all.
01:50Cool.
01:52So we'll start with some questions, and then we'll go from there.
01:56So the first thing I wanted to know is the time that became known as COVID.
02:04And I think you just finished up the Muscle Shoals stuff in 2019, and it's going to be released or was released in January of 2020.
02:14And then there was a tour schedule for February of that year, and then COVID came along.
02:19And that put the brakes on everything.
02:22But I'm wondering what the vibe was.
02:24And, Ed, I heard you talking about it, and you said your first reaction was fear.
02:28Yeah, well, you know, you kind of devote your life to this.
02:32And, you know, I don't know if it was fear.
02:35It was kind of like fear of the unknown, like what's going to happen.
02:38Like there's definitely something that is about to change, at least for a little while.
02:43And really our livelihood is getting in front of people like we have here.
02:47This is what we really love to do is kind of, you know, play and see the reaction on your faces.
02:51And, you know, if that was going to be taken away, I was not going to be a fan.
02:55But so that was my first thing.
02:56But then, you know, you start to think about how much you appreciated just getting to do it at all.
03:02You know, so fear kind of turned into hope for, you know, to kind of get back what you had.
03:08And we did, which is great.
03:09You know, we're starting to tour again.
03:11This is the first big one for a while.
03:13So we're pretty pumped up and pretty hopeful for it.
03:16But speaking of touring, I think, David, you said you took the gigs for granted.
03:20And all of a sudden there's space where there was no space.
03:24From a band that's working all the time to all of a sudden the brakes are entirely on from full, you know, power to stop.
03:31Yeah.
03:32I think it's something, you know, it's just like, I think in 2020, it was, when it happened, I think probably one of the reasons why I said that or mentioned that, it was like, I think I desperately needed to get off the road.
03:46And then that kind of boom happened.
03:49But then that space and that time away gave us all, I think, just such a revitalized appreciation for the things that we do and the music that we make and, you know, the people, you know, that love what we do.
04:04And it was just like, it was, it was a terrible time for so many reasons, but it did, you know, there were some silver linings that I think, you know, we have to, you have to be able to find them, you know, in any dark situation, you've got to find those.
04:19Was that true for you, Zach, as well?
04:21Uh, 100%.
04:23Yeah.
04:24Um, I definitely felt like when, once we started getting in rooms together again and playing for audiences, it just felt so special.
04:30Like this is a precious thing that we get to do this.
04:33And we're so grateful that we get to live our dreams and play music for people.
04:36And it's more or less well-received.
04:38It's amazing.
04:39It's an incredible thing.
04:41Um, truly, um, at the same time, it was really nice in a lot of ways to have the longest amount of time stationary at home that we've ever had in our adult lives.
04:50You know, like several months.
04:52That was, that was really great.
04:53I'm, you know, there were a lot of young, um, baby raising notes happening for a lot of families here that they really got to, you know, be there for that.
05:01So I was able to be home for the entirety of, of my, uh, fiance's twin pregnancy.
05:06So that I'm, I'm grateful for that as well.
05:09Um, so all, we're just happy of all of it, looking on the bright side and super, uh, grateful that we, that we get to do this.
05:17You know, you can't keep the music down.
05:19And one of the things that happened during this time, uh, some cities did drive-in shows and we did a couple of those that first summer.
05:26We did one too in New Orleans.
05:27I read about that because we had the struts and we've been friends with them for a long time.
05:31And Luke Spiller, the front man is very energetic and engaging guy.
05:35And he jumps into the audience as you often will, you know, and he'll get the left side where he gets the right side and everybody jumping up and down.
05:41And we had a parking lot in the sports complex and big screens.
05:45And you had to sit in your car and tune into a frequency, maybe stand outside your car.
05:49And for a band or for an audience, that's a whole different dynamic.
05:53And I said to Luke, you're not going to be able to do the jump up.
05:55And he goes, oh, well, maybe I'll have them flash their lights or honk their horns.
06:00We actually did that too during a celebration.
06:06We didn't, we figure out what most of the horns honked in, like the note.
06:11Come on.
06:12And I think we B flat and we like, I think we changed, like we went into that note and we were like, now honk your horn.
06:19I forget exactly how it happened.
06:20The song has a natural key change that we already do a key change from A to B flat.
06:24So we're like, we got to do it after we do the key change.
06:27Otherwise it would be very dissonant.
06:29We didn't want that.
06:30We wanted it to be, we wanted the honking to be in, yeah, we wanted it to be in key.
06:34A harmonious honk.
06:35Yeah, when you get 125 car horns honking at once, you want it to sound nice.
06:40Are you going to say something?
06:41Sounds like a choir.
06:43Yeah, it's cool.
06:44I mean, but you can't keep the music down.
06:45Nope.
06:46Now, the final thing about the pandemic I want to ask you is every city was affected differently, but New Orleans is so vibrant and alive.
06:54I cannot picture that city still.
06:57What was it like?
06:57I'll tell you, the craziest part about it is you're right.
07:00A lot of the cities, you're out on the street, you're with a lot of people, you're eating, you're drinking, you're doing all these things.
07:06And a lot of places had to adapt.
07:09You know, just like everybody in that situation, they started putting chairs outside.
07:13They started doing delivery, doing all these things.
07:15I mean, New Orleans still had that soul to it, but a lot of that vibrancy is missing.
07:20Yeah, it was rough on New Orleans.
07:22It's not there.
07:23It's a tourism economy and stuff.
07:25The city took a hit from COVID.
07:26And it was also the epicenter at the beginning.
07:29It was one of the major, major places that got hit because we had just had Mardi Gras.
07:34So it was just like everybody came down right about March.
07:38Exactly.
07:38So it was just like, it really hit the city hard.
07:42I would take bike rides and runs, and I would run through the French Quarter.
07:46It was a ghost town.
07:48And so many restaurants that you love that just didn't make it.
07:51You know what I mean?
07:51They just couldn't.
07:53The turnover in the restaurant business down there, which is a huge part of New Orleans, has been crazy.
07:58Is it back now, would you say?
07:59We're starting to come back now.
08:01And, you know, like a lot of the staples that I love are still there.
08:04But, you know, just like everywhere else in the whole world, everybody's trying to build back, you know, the thing that they had.
08:11You know, so hopefully, you know, we'll get there.
08:13The city's definitely growing in that aspect.
08:16It's 93.3 WMMR, if you just joined us.
08:19We're speaking with The Revivalists, and we have a brand new record out.
08:22It's Pour It Out Into the Night.
08:24And it's so cool to have a new record.
08:26At the top of your Twitter page, I like how it's phrased, in order, new song under that, new album under that, new era.
08:34And it's a great new record.
08:37And I love it.
08:38The first song we've been playing is Kid.
08:40There's also an acoustic version of it.
08:41But tell us about Kid.
08:45Anybody?
08:45Yeah, I got you.
08:47I can start it out for sure.
08:49It was the first tune that me and Zach, actually, it was the first time we got together to write, I think,
08:54back from the pandemic when we were kind of, you know, all separated.
08:58It's a really special song for us.
09:01And, you know, just speaking to a little bit to what it's about, because honestly, I think a lot of times we don't really know where these things come from a lot of times, you know.
09:10But I will say that I think the heart of the song revolves around, there's a lyric in the song, living for the spirit now, you know.
09:19And that is really what it, that's the heart of the song.
09:22There's so many things that can grab your attention.
09:25We have a supercomputer in our pocket.
09:28You know, there's a lot of negativity.
09:29There's also a lot of positivity, but, you know, so I think it's really about not letting these things steal your joy.
09:35You know, seeing the good things, seeing the hope, and living in the moment.
09:41It's so important.
09:42Present time.
09:42There's so many great songs on here.
09:44We don't have time to go over all of them.
09:45I think the next single is going to be Good Old Days.
09:48Can you tell us about that?
09:50That's another doozy.
09:52That's a fun one.
09:54He called it a doozy.
09:56A double doozy.
09:57Dave and I wrote that one.
10:01We started writing the music after Mardi Gras Day 2018.
10:06We had a beautiful day.
10:06Had like 5 a.m.
10:08Yeah, and, you know, we were out having fun all day.
10:11Sounds like a healthy day.
10:12Yeah, exactly.
10:14And we were just kind of having like a jam session at his house after our girlfriends were hanging out, you know, like falling asleep.
10:22And we were messing with, he got this new synth, like a synth.
10:26And we dialed in a fun sound and just started jamming, putting the music together.
10:30And then when I finally did go home that night in bed, and I'm like still kind of flying a little bit.
10:35And I just have, you know, the chorus lyric, you know, came into my head.
10:39These are the Good Old Days.
10:40They're headed behind.
10:41I was like, is that cheesy?
10:42Maybe a little bit, you know, I don't know, but I like it.
10:44And I shared it with him.
10:45He was like, that's cool.
10:46No, let's go with that.
10:47Yeah.
10:47That's cool.
10:48And then we wrote the tin.
10:48And also like, Don't Look Back.
10:51Tell me about that.
10:53Oh, man.
10:55This is a, this, that was a, that was one that came across.
10:57I will say that tune, we, we, I feel like we like really nailed that one in the studio.
11:04It was, we had, we had just, you know, it was at the end of a day.
11:08We were all just dead.
11:09The last day, I think.
11:10Maybe it was the last day.
11:11It was the last thing we recorded in Vermont.
11:13The last thing we recorded, yeah.
11:14For the whole album.
11:15For the whole album.
11:16And it needed that wool on it.
11:19It needed that gruff.
11:20It needed that like, oh, God.
11:23You know, because it's a tune, you can't, you can't, kind of can't be dead for it.
11:27But like it had, it just, I don't know, it kind of re-energized us a little bit.
11:31We kind of thought we were done recording live, like, we, like, there was a no pressure
11:35situation.
11:36Yeah.
11:36They were working on like a piano ballad for a couple hours and we were like, the band
11:39was like, all right, I think we're done.
11:41We're probably, we're probably not tracking anything else full band here.
11:44And then the producer was like, you guys have another rock one you want to do, right?
11:47And we were like, oh yeah, hell yeah.
11:48Let's, let's do that.
11:49So we just hammered out three takes of it.
11:51He was like, you got to use whatever, whatever's up right now.
11:53We don't have time to set up.
11:54And this producer was like, spend hours dialing in sounds and stuff.
11:58And he was like, you just got to roll with whatever you got.
12:00And it was like, all right.
12:01And it was really like, great.
12:03Let's just go in and play.
12:04Oftentimes the raw is the best.
12:06Exactly.
12:06Exactly.
12:07It's the same.
12:08Like sometimes our, our, our, our best shows are like what we're the most tired and we
12:11don't know what's going on.
12:12And it just kind of happens and you're just not thinking about it and just kind of magic
12:16clicks out of nowhere.
12:17And, you know, I feel like we had one of those moments.
12:19Yeah.
12:19So it's very important to get production right and get like all the pieces together and get
12:23your monitoring correct.
12:24But like, for example, like when we played Bonnaroo for the first time, like we rolled
12:27up to the stage, like 25 minutes before our set and there was just using the house sound
12:31guy.
12:31And we're like, all right, boom, boom, boom.
12:33And you just rock it.
12:34And that's kind of the vibe that we brought to this track.
12:35I'll never forget that.
12:36Yeah.
12:37Yeah.
12:37And the, and the, and the tent was pumping that night for sure.
12:41So many other great songs, uh, Only You, Alive.
12:44I don't know.
12:44Are there any songs on the record?
12:46Um, and people are just learning it now that jump out to you that a song in particular
12:51you want to speak about or that you love?
12:55It's okay if you don't have one because they're all your children in a way.
12:58We can talk about anyone, you know, just, Oh, yeah.
13:02You want to talk about it?
13:02Andrew wants to talk about Wait for the Sun.
13:04Here, I got you.
13:04I got you.
13:05Here, he's got you.
13:06Andrew wants to speak about.
13:07Well, there's a song called Wait for the Sun that we, uh, have tried to put on a number
13:12of our records.
13:12Zach and Dave actually wrote this song in maybe 2007 or eight.
13:15It's, we've played it, you know, a number, we played it at Red Rocks.
13:18We played it a number of times and it never made its way onto a record.
13:21And, um, sometimes ideas just sort of marinate until it's their time.
13:27And, and, and the song was always really good, but I think that maybe coming out of what we
13:31were coming out of when we were making this record, it kind of like, it became time for
13:35that song to be on the record.
13:37And I'm really happy that it finally found a home on a record.
13:40Also, I think we like delivered the performance like better than we had ever before.
13:45On, on this time.
13:46So it was also like, all right, we got it now.
13:48We kept trying.
13:49Yeah.
13:49We kept trying and we never got it.
13:50But yeah.
13:51That was also the first song that George came up with an original baseline for.
13:55I remember like the first one that we, cause we wrote it so early on and like we were,
13:59we, you came up with a lot of that line.
14:00I was like, that's great.
14:01Yeah.
14:02Yeah.
14:02Awesome.
14:03I wanted to talk about the way fans can get the record.
14:08And I love that you love vinyl and there's so many different packages.
14:13There's the King collection, the diamond collection, the angel collection, and there's a number of
14:17colored vinyl pieces that you can get.
14:20First of all, which I love, but, and the CD, and you can obviously download it.
14:23But to me, a three-dimensional experience of holding a CD or an album while you're listening
14:30to it brings it alive to you because music is not one-dimensional.
14:34So if you just download it, as many young people do today, I think they miss something, including
14:38quality of sound to a certain degree.
14:40But seeing the artwork and taking, opening the record and seeing who's playing on it and
14:46seeing whatever thoughts the band might include in that album, tell the story.
14:50And, um, like the album artwork, I don't quite understand what you have in mind for that,
14:55but what, what is your thinking behind the album artwork?
14:58So it's a, it's an artist named Lou Beach, who's been around forever and he's got a lot
15:02of like classic, um, album covers that he's done from Bill Withers to, um, did he do a Madonna
15:09one?
15:09Was that right?
15:10He's done a lot.
15:10He's done a lot.
15:11I don't know exactly.
15:13Yeah.
15:13Um, he's been around since the seventies and, um, we were just looking, we like, like what
15:18he did a lot and, um, saw this piece and really liked it and wanted to use it.
15:23Cool.
15:23There's another thing that you can get that fans can get a lot of things, but there's
15:27what's called a graffiti color changing UV t-shirt.
15:31And, um, first of all, is that one of those?
15:34Yeah.
15:34Wait a minute.
15:35Hold on.
15:35Is that news to you?
15:36Is it for real?
15:37Does it work?
15:38Thank you for you put the handprint on it.
15:41Merch packages.
15:42Please call today.
15:43Yeah.
15:44Don't sit there.
15:45Please call 1-800.
15:47If you order right now, you also get to, um, I don't know, hang out with me.
15:53It's going very fast, ladies and gentlemen.
15:56Somebody could get that on camera there.
15:57That's official.
15:58So you don't know if this, uh, color changing t-shirt is even for real.
16:03Well, obviously it is for real, but the question is.
16:05If it isn't, it is now.
16:07I don't know.
16:07It sounds mythical to me.
16:08That's pretty cool.
16:09We shall find out.
16:10Um, so I also wanted to, um, talk about the fact that this band has been blessed now
16:16with, uh, on the last three major albums, three number ones.
16:19Uh, when you think about it, all my friends, uh, in 2018, wish I knew you in 2016 and now
16:25kid in 2023.
16:27Um, you have to think it does a band good, but what goes through your heads when you have
16:32that happen on each album?
16:33Um, you get a number one on various, uh, billboard charts.
16:37It's, it's really cool.
16:38It's, it's very flattering and it's, it's a nice little boost, you know?
16:42Um, I don't think it, it, I don't think it changes like the way we do things, you know,
16:48but it is, it is really nice and it's really special.
16:51And it really just means to us that it's connecting, you know, with the people.
16:54So that really feels good.
16:57When you've, I assume you've been road testing some of the new songs cause you have been back
17:01out on the road, um, fans, your fans, particularly rev heads are so dedicated.
17:07Um, but when you're on stage, you get a view of what the audience is perceiving.
17:11And if you're, you know, introducing them to a brand new song, you've got to be curious
17:15how they're receiving it and how they're vibing to it.
17:18What's your take on their take on the new music you've played thus far?
17:22It seems like it's connecting really nicely.
17:24So we, we definitely look at the reaction we're in tune with, with the audience and they're,
17:29they're into the new material, which is incredibly gratifying.
17:31And we're super happy about that.
17:33That's excellent.
17:34It's gotta be gratifying.
17:35Yeah.
17:36Um, you're also on this tour is the head and the heart on the entire tour coming this summer.
17:40The first leg, we have a leg with the head and the heart.
17:43We're doing a bunch of dates with them.
17:44And then we have another leg with the great, the band of horses.
17:48Um, so we have several shows with them.
17:50I think that that leg is a little more Northwest and westerly, I believe.
17:54And there's also this band, the heavy, heavy, which is great.
17:56Actually, you know what?
17:57No, some of it's in the Northeast too.
17:58I'm sorry.
17:58Yeah, yeah, yeah.
18:00I'm sorry.
18:00I don't know.
18:01I don't know where I'm going.
18:02Sorry.
18:04We're excited to get out on the road.
18:05You should show up and dance, baby.
18:06Yeah.
18:07Well, you know, I mean, again, after all the space, when you had your first gig back after
18:12COVID, the first real gig, not a drive-in was, were you actually, you know, prior to taking
18:17the stage in whatever it was, a club, a theater, arena, whatever it might've been, were you
18:22nervous?
18:23And then all of what you had missed is all of a sudden back.
18:26What was that like?
18:27You know, I don't know if it's nervousness and like excitement and nervousness are kind
18:32of intertwined a lot.
18:34You know what I mean?
18:35At least for me, they're kind of that butterfly feeling is you almost can't tell if it's
18:39nervous or excitement.
18:41And I think we kind of always feel that for big shows, but that definitely felt like,
18:45okay, well, you know, we're back.
18:47We're doing this.
18:47It's like, we're not, we don't have to spread everybody out a hundred feet and kind of do
18:51all this crazy stuff.
18:53We're doing a real show.
18:54And it was definitely optimistic was my first thought.
18:57And also, I remember the first time that we just got together and played music again,
19:00because we had several months where we didn't get in a room with each other, you know, in
19:05those early days when people didn't know what was going on and stuff and people were getting
19:08really sick.
19:09Like we, we had like five months where we didn't even play music together.
19:12And when we got together to rehearse and played criminal, it felt like we were flying.
19:15It felt so good.
19:16So there was a lot of excitement and like kind of being in the cloud brought us back to,
19:19you know, back in the day, how we, how we felt, I think kind of like, you know, everybody
19:23kind of hit a reset button.
19:24Then you keep going, you know, and you get it back and it feels great.
19:27On 93.3 WMMR, we're speaking with the revivalists here in this MMR Archive session.
19:33Just a few more questions for you.
19:34I wanted to cover a couple of things.
19:36Guys, when last you were with us, we talked about covers and I think you, the last song
19:41you played in the session we did at the club with an audience was a cover of Hey Jude.
19:46David, I think you got up on stage recently with Goose and played No Rain from Blind Melon.
19:52And you guys can pull any song and have pulled many songs out of your collective musical hats.
19:58What about a cover makes it, or a song that's out there makes it something you want to bring
20:03to the surface and put your guys' touch on?
20:05You mentioned Hey Jude.
20:07I would just like to interject that I named my son Jude.
20:10Wow.
20:11And he's almost two, and like we listen to the song and he's always like, he'll just be
20:15singing Hey Jude.
20:16He like knows the lyrics of the verse now, right?
20:18He kind of like, he had a whole thing.
20:20Yeah.
20:20A little bit, yeah.
20:21That is very cool.
20:22Another thing you spoke about when we were last together is the fact that on Halloween,
20:27the band used to gather and dress up.
20:29I don't know if you've done it recently or not, but I think we've seen you in everything
20:34from Nine Inch Nails to Prince to The Who, and even the famous Red Hot Chili Peppers performance
20:41with one of you wearing a sock on your-
20:43Guess who it was.
20:45I can't take a wild guess.
20:46And I believe, David, your mother was in the audience at that particular time, was she
20:51not?
20:51No, is that true?
20:53Was your mom in the audience?
20:54No way.
20:55Someone's mother was.
20:56I don't think that much.
20:58Have you done the Halloween shows lately, or are there plans to do it again?
21:04I think we'll, I'm sure we'll do it again.
21:06I don't know exactly when it's going to happen, but I'm sure we'll do it again.
21:09It's really fun.
21:10It sounds just like a gas.
21:13Last thing is Rev Causes, a little foundation that you have set up to help other situations
21:20in need.
21:21Tell us about it and how it's been satisfying to you in terms of what it's been able to
21:26accomplish.
21:28I mean, it's just like we're in a position now to where we can give back.
21:34And I think that, you know, there were so many years where we were just, you know, scratching
21:38by.
21:38And, you know, when we finally got a little success, it was just like, all right, yeah,
21:43we're going to, we're going to use this arm to reach out to the things and, you know,
21:47the things that we believe in.
21:48And so we, yeah, thank you.
21:51Appreciate that.
21:52You know, so we, we, every, every ticket, every, there's a dollar from every ticket that's
21:56that's sold goes to various organizations.
21:59We pick them each year.
22:00They always change and yeah, we're just, we're, we're stoked to do it and it makes us feel
22:05good.
22:05And, you know, I think we're going to continue it for sure.
22:10Well, it's what you do.
22:11I mean, it's part of what you do.
22:12I think music is so powerful and it brings people of all dimensions together.
22:16And my final question is if you've, you probably all have various stories about it, but if
22:23you could recite a moment where you, perhaps a fan has come to you and said, your music
22:28has helped me through this because music does that.
22:31It gets you through, you know, it's such a powerful and positive force.
22:35If any examples come to mind of just something that has changed somebody's life or kept them
22:41going when they needed to be kept going.
22:43There's, we got a lot of messages like that and I almost feel bad that like, I don't take
22:47the time personally to respond to all these messages of people saying like how our, our
22:51music has gotten them through a really difficult period or something like that.
22:54But it's very heartening to, to get these sometimes.
22:56Cause to me, if like, if somebody tells, we got a message on occasion, like, I just want
23:00you to know that I'm still breathing because of your music.
23:03That's incredible.
23:04It makes like, even, even if we don't have any chart success or anything like that, the
23:08fact that, that music has the power to do this and that our music can, can, can be this
23:14meaningful for some people is, it makes it all worth it.
23:17Yeah.
23:17It's amazing.
23:18We will see this band on July 12th at the Man Music Center.
23:21We'd like to also thank the Concord Music Group, C3 Management, Bowder Audio and Newman
23:27Video and our wonderful engineers here at MMR who worked well late into the night to get
23:31this performance space ready to go for this amazing band.
23:35We're so grateful that you've taken the time to come here and play for us.
23:39So we thank you for that.
23:40And if you're ready, we'll invite you to do the performance portion of our afternoon now.
23:45Ladies and gentlemen, once again, the revivalists.
23:51Yeah.
23:53We'll be back.
23:54Yeah.
23:55We'll be back.
23:56Well, just to make sure you're my very sweet hotel rooms are not fair.
23:58We'll be looking at the coffee left and we're going to enjoy it.
24:00Yeah.
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24:05Yeah.
24:05Well that's well.
24:09But then I think the quality of our authority is not fair, the pitch.
24:12I'm on the bottom right now.
24:14Okay.
24:15Well that's not fair.
24:16Use the� raspberry sits on land.
24:17I'm in the water here.
24:18I'm on the top left.