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00:00Do you think, Amjad, we can ever program our way around malevolent use of intelligent AI?
00:12No. And the reason is because if you think about the geopolitics of it, I mean, in the same way that you couldn't sort of control nuclear,
00:22I know some AI safety folks, they will point to nuclear as a successful sort of controllable technology.
00:32And I think the thing that made it so that we're not destroying ourselves is a mutually assured destruction.
00:39North Korea has nuclear bombs. There's all this discussion on Iran.
00:44There's countries that have nuclear bombs, like Israel, that don't want to say that they have nuclear bombs.
00:49And so I think that, you know, when you think about the geopolitics, it is it is anarchy and you can't really control the, you know,
00:58the UN doesn't have a way to enforce these things.
01:02So ultimately, you know, for better or worse, you know, countries will be able to do whatever they want with this technology.
01:10And I think it's going to be it's going to be sort of offensive versus defensive AI.