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00:00:00Recently, I was contacted by a content creator who came across my films and liked how they
00:00:15looked.
00:00:16She asked if she could hire me for a day to shoot her going around New York City.
00:00:21I said yes, and asked if, in lieu of payment, I could later do a documentary on her, comprised
00:00:28of a sit-down interview in her bedroom.
00:00:31She agreed.
00:00:32This is that documentary.
00:00:34Here, just clap so that I have the audio.
00:00:41Okay, cool.
00:00:45So, who are you?
00:00:54Hi, I'm Rachel Hunger.
00:00:57I live now in New York, used to live in Albany, but I'm still getting used to it.
00:01:05Why are we here today?
00:01:06Well, we're, I guess, here to shoot a little documentary, since you were so kind and gracious
00:01:11in allowing me to film with you for my UGC.
00:01:14I really appreciate it.
00:01:16So, here we are.
00:01:17All right.
00:01:18So, what's it like being a content creator?
00:01:22Or is that what you call yourself?
00:01:24I don't want to assume.
00:01:25Yeah, because I do feel like influencer, it sounds so, like, uppity.
00:01:31So, yeah, I would say content creator.
00:01:33And I'm definitely not, like, I don't have a million followers.
00:01:36I'm not, like, Lele Pons.
00:01:37I'm just, like, just doing basic stuff, you know?
00:01:41Showing people around, basically taking them throughout my day in little bits and pieces
00:01:45with me, whether it's getting ready or going to lunch or trying out a new spot for a drink,
00:01:53that kind of stuff.
00:01:54And when did you get started doing this?
00:01:57How long have you been doing it?
00:01:58I've been doing it for the last, like, two years, I'd say, hardcore, but more seriously
00:02:03in this last year, trying to get actual payments for my jobs.
00:02:09So, where are you at in your career?
00:02:11Like, do you feel like you have a lot of followers?
00:02:15Do you feel like you still have room to grow?
00:02:19Like, how do you feel about your career as a content creator?
00:02:22Well, I mean, $23,000 is good, but I feel like I want to do better if I can, because
00:02:29I don't know.
00:02:30It seems to me that based on my experiences thus far, I've gotten a lot of, like, free
00:02:36deals and stuff, coupons even.
00:02:40When I first started, that was, like, the only thing I got in return for posting about
00:02:45something.
00:02:45Um, but yeah, I think, like, coupons, um, all that stuff is fine, but it really doesn't
00:02:53pay the bills.
00:02:54So, that's what I'm going for.
00:02:55I'm looking to hopefully get some brand endorsements that are legit, have a contract where, like,
00:03:02I post X amount for this amount of money, and it's guaranteed.
00:03:06Um, so yeah, that's my goal.
00:03:09Um, right now I'm getting there.
00:03:11I had, uh, a little $50 payment.
00:03:13That was something.
00:03:14It was like, oh, here's a little endorsement to our spot, but it wasn't actual money.
00:03:19It was still, like, to be received and tendered at their location.
00:03:25It was like a pizzeria, which sounds so corny, but, you know, it's something.
00:03:32Yeah, yeah.
00:03:33Gets me out there.
00:03:34So, where are you from?
00:03:36What's, what's your, what's your story?
00:03:38Well, I'm from a little outside of Albany, um, but in the area that I was in, it was
00:03:45very, like, the sticks, pretty much.
00:03:47So, a little farmy, you know, a lot of livestock, crops, but not that much.
00:03:55It was just really in that, like, area in my town, that specifically.
00:04:01And it was kind of, like, a little isolated, if you will, a little creepy.
00:04:07A little children of the corn.
00:04:08I prefer New York City.
00:04:10What do you like about New York City?
00:04:12Uh, I love the people.
00:04:14I feel like where I grew up, it was so quiet and desolate, if you will.
00:04:19Uh, kind of, like I said, children of the corn.
00:04:23Um, so it was nice to be able to get out and visit the city every once in a while as a
00:04:28teenager.
00:04:29Even as a kid, I would sometimes do it with my family, but.
00:04:32Have you seen children of the corn?
00:04:34Yeah, I have.
00:04:36And it's quite haunting, chilling, if you will.
00:04:38Yeah.
00:04:38There's a lot of those.
00:04:39I think there's, like, there might be, like, nine or ten different children of the corn
00:04:43movies at this point.
00:04:44Are there really?
00:04:45I think there are.
00:04:46Because when I was growing up, there was, like, a bunch of sequels that were, like, straight
00:04:50to video.
00:04:51Oh, yeah.
00:04:51And then I think they've done, like, a remake, maybe, and then, like, other ones or something.
00:04:57But I think there might be, like, nine or ten.
00:04:59Oh, wow.
00:05:00Oh, my God.
00:05:00Yeah.
00:05:01I've only seen maybe the first one and the second one, I think.
00:05:05Hmm.
00:05:05And what do you think?
00:05:06Like, I think, like, the premise is better than the actual movie.
00:05:11You know, it's one of those.
00:05:12Definitely.
00:05:13Yeah.
00:05:14There was, like, a kid pastor, right?
00:05:17Wasn't that, like, part of it?
00:05:18Oh, my God.
00:05:19He got, he gave me the creeps.
00:05:20I didn't like him.
00:05:22Do you like horror movies?
00:05:24Um, I do a little, I dabble here and there.
00:05:27I'm trying to think of, like, what my favorite one might be.
00:05:31I have a hard time nowadays sitting through movies, like, all the way.
00:05:35If I'm honest, my attention span is just shot.
00:05:37But in general, if I had to pick a horror movie, I would say Saw.
00:05:43That was really good.
00:05:44Yeah, that was good.
00:05:45I love Saw.
00:05:46Yeah, the special effects are crazy.
00:05:48Like, I don't know how they do all that.
00:05:50I know a little bit, but not everything.
00:05:52Do you feel like that's something you would ever want to do?
00:05:54Like, just be in movies or anything like that?
00:05:57It's funny that you say that, because, yes, um, I considered going to, like, acting school
00:06:03when I first kind of moved out here, which was, like, just last month.
00:06:08In theory, I could save up for it.
00:06:10I could do it.
00:06:11Not sure how long film is going to, like, last.
00:06:15You know what I mean?
00:06:16Everyone's attention span is, like, shot to shit, frankly, just like mine.
00:06:19So I wonder about how long that will go on for.
00:06:26You know what I mean?
00:06:27Like, I think it's cool.
00:06:28Don't get me wrong.
00:06:28I love movies to a degree, but I just can't sit through them anymore.
00:06:34And I'd rather watch, like, something shorter if I could, because time is money.
00:06:39What do you mean by shorter?
00:06:40Like, how short?
00:06:41Like, I like watching, um, like, YouTube videos, even.
00:06:48I know that's, like, still kind of, like, old school.
00:06:50But I enjoy it, because, like, usually they're pretty short, and they don't need to be on
00:06:55for, like, 40 minutes.
00:06:56It can be, like, a quick 10-minute get ready with me, or go to Sephora with me.
00:07:01So you watch that stuff?
00:07:03Like, even, like, because, yeah, I know you make that stuff, but, like, you'll actually,
00:07:07like, watch somebody else doing that stuff?
00:07:09Oh, yeah, absolutely.
00:07:10I mean, I'm not bit-biting or anything, but I am kind of taking inspiration from stuff,
00:07:15because, you know, there's nothing new under the sun.
00:07:17Somebody said that, right?
00:07:18Um, and, yeah, I think it's good to get that inspiration, plus I low-key enjoy it, because
00:07:24it's, like, getting to spend time with another person without actually having to, like, do
00:07:29anything.
00:07:29You can just chill.
00:07:30That's interesting.
00:07:31I never would have thought that, like, content creators watch other content creators.
00:07:35Yeah, I see.
00:07:36Like, it just feels like it's a very, um, I don't know.
00:07:40It's, like, your own pursuit, and I would feel like it would be something that you would
00:07:45just, like, get sick of or something.
00:07:48I mean, the only thing that I get sick of sometimes is, like, trying to film.
00:07:53That's probably the hardest thing for me.
00:07:55Um, just because, like, it's not always opportune, and I'm usually by myself trying to do it,
00:08:03and I feel kind of ridiculous, like, trying to do, uh, oh, here's me in New York, and I
00:08:09have to be alone, like, on Chelsea Pier trying to get a photo with, like, my stand and all
00:08:16that.
00:08:16Oh, it's just awkward.
00:08:18Yeah.
00:08:19So, I think that's, like, the most annoying part about it, to be fair.
00:08:22Everything else is fine.
00:08:23Do you ever feel, like, silly, like, when you're in public and, like, you're shooting content,
00:08:27like, people are looking at you weird or anything, or?
00:08:30All the time.
00:08:31Yeah, and I, and you can't tell me they're not.
00:08:33I know they are.
00:08:33Plus, I've seen those videos on TikTok of people, like, oh, influencer in the wild, or things
00:08:40like that.
00:08:41Yeah.
00:08:41I just pray and hope that I'm never on it.
00:08:44What's something, like, embarrassing about you?
00:08:46Like, I don't mean, like, career ending, but just something, like, you know, like, cute,
00:08:53embarrassing, like, curious, you know, like, harmless embarrassing, like, just like a tidbit,
00:09:05you know, like a, I don't know.
00:09:07Um, harmless tidbit.
00:09:14Do you have any, like, guilty pleasures, entertainment-wise, or life-wise?
00:09:19Yes, definitely.
00:09:21Um, something pretty much no one knows is that, like, when I'm not watching other influencers
00:09:27talk about stuff, and products, whatever, I go and look at metal detectors online so I
00:09:35can, like, kind of see what they're doing and try to go to locations, because I, I asked
00:09:39for a metal detector two Christmases ago, and I've been using it intermittently here and
00:09:44there.
00:09:44I haven't found anything.
00:09:45You use a metal detector in New York City?
00:09:47Not in New York City, but, like, when I was still home, I could use it outside and just,
00:09:52like, go to random places, because honestly, there is a lot of history to New York, and,
00:09:57yeah, there's a lot of cool stuff.
00:10:00What have you found?
00:10:00Have you found anything cool?
00:10:01I can show you if you want. These are some of my beautiful coins. This is probably a
00:10:08quarter, more than likely. Um, what else do I have here? This one looks like a dime, but
00:10:15very, very severely weathered and worn, as is this one. These are all from the beach.
00:10:23Um, I went to Rockaway, like, two months ago, and, yeah, these are, uh, these are them.
00:10:28So you've never, you've never shown this on, like, with content or anything? You've never,
00:10:32like, metal detected?
00:10:34No.
00:10:35Why?
00:10:35Because, like, I don't know. I think it would, it's not really my brand, per se.
00:10:41People would, I think that would be cool.
00:10:44You think so?
00:10:44I would watch some, like, metal detecting. I, I, I'm just now hearing of, like, metal
00:10:50detecting as, like, a category of video. I never even heard of that.
00:10:54No, yeah, it's really fun. Um, a lot of people do it, and it, for the most part, is uneventful,
00:11:00just, like, the real thing, because it's just walking around, waiting to find a spot. But
00:11:04when they do, it's really fun, and I'm, like, ah, I'm craving that. Like, just give me something
00:11:08cool. Old Victorian object or something. However, I don't film that only because, um,
00:11:15I don't know. I, I don't think the image that I've cultivated in my, like, online presence
00:11:23would translate well with that content. Like, I don't even speak in my videos, let alone, like,
00:11:32show my day-to-day really, like.
00:11:34Yeah, it's weird. Like, um, is it, does it feel weird being seen talking?
00:11:42A little bit.
00:11:44Well, you're not right now, because we're literally just seeing your pants and the coins,
00:11:48but we, we just shot stuff where you were, like, you were straight up talking to the camera.
00:11:53I was, like, was that weird?
00:11:55Yeah, I was just trying to focus on you. I was, like, okay, I just, I'm talking to a person.
00:12:00Yeah. All right, I'm going to cut, and we can talk more about, like, what that's like.
00:12:05Yeah, yeah.
00:12:06All right, so here you are staring at the camera and talking, and that's something you don't
00:12:13normally do, so let's talk about that. Um, why don't you talk in your content? What's,
00:12:19what's that about when you're your persona or your character? I don't know what to call
00:12:24it, but, um, why don't you talk in your content?
00:12:27Um, well, honestly, it does make me kind of nervous, and that sounds silly, right,
00:12:36because, like, I film videos, and that's, like, what I'm trying to do for a living,
00:12:40um, but, like, yeah, it's really hard. I think the medium I work best in is visual,
00:12:46and that translates really well to, like, the audience that I want, um, so, yeah, that's,
00:12:52that's why I mainly don't do it, and also because I, I don't feel like I have the best voice in the
00:12:57world, so there's that, too. You have a nice voice. You have a good voice. Thank you. When I hear
00:13:04myself after I've tried to record something with audio, I'm like, who the fuck is that? Like,
00:13:10I don't know who that is. Ah! So not only are people hearing you talk, they just heard you curse.
00:13:17Shit.
00:13:19No, I'm just teasing. This is family-friendly.
00:13:21It's whatever. It's out there in the ether now. I'm cool in. Hopefully I don't speak too freely.
00:13:28You definitely have, like, faces that you knew when you do your content.
00:13:33Um, yeah. Ah, you've noticed.
00:13:37Well, yeah, I mean, that's part of your character, so it's like, I, I'm just noticing when I'm seeing you,
00:13:43because I'm, I haven't really watched too many of your videos, um, to be honest, but just seeing a
00:13:48couple, you have, like, certain faces, and, like, I can see, like, when you're talking as your actual
00:13:54human self, like, you don't really make the same faces. No, yeah, I mean, yeah. I typically am very
00:14:01animated, because I understand that, like, it's much like silent film acting in a way, because, like,
00:14:07I'm doing this, like, visual representation of an experience, a product, uh,
00:14:14and it's, there's no sound needed. It's just simply, like, visually stimulating, so, yeah.
00:14:22Yeah. Can you cycle through a couple of your faces right now? Um, or is it,
00:14:27is it hard to do if you're not, like, actually doing the video? I think, like, I can do, like, um,
00:14:42sometimes I'll mouth things, but that's different, like, yeah, yeah.
00:14:52Does it feel silly when you're doing it, or? Because, like, obviously this is, like, outside
00:14:57of the context of you doing it, doing it. Yeah, um, yeah, it does feel a little bit weird. I feel
00:15:04like a sin. All right, well, I'm going to cut and we'll, we'll talk about something else or figure it
00:15:12out. Okay. Okay, so you have very prominent lips. Thank you. What's it like having really big lips?
00:15:28Uh, I mean, I, it's fine. Um, I do get comments sometimes that are sometimes less than nice,
00:15:36uh, a little bit indecent, if you will. Oh, okay. I was, like, I was, I was thinking, like,
00:15:44people were just, like, screw you, you have big lips or something, but. Oh, no, no, yeah,
00:15:49I mean, for the most part, it's just, like, thirsty guys trying to. Yeah. Flirt.
00:15:55So, yeah. Um. You've, I guess you've had them your whole life. I feel like people with big lips,
00:16:03it's just kind of, like, I guess they're just born with them. Yeah, I mean, you would think so,
00:16:10right? Because, like. Do they come in later? Is it, like, puberty? Is it, like, breasts? Do they, like.
00:16:15I mean, sure. In some cases, sure. Um, but yeah, I mean, this is totally off the record, but
00:16:25if I'm honest with you and myself, I did go ahead and take that leap. I got swindled and totally,
00:16:33I just, I fell into the hole. I fell into that pitfall of
00:16:39doing what everybody else is doing, and I definitely got lip filler.
00:16:43Oh, okay. I didn't even know that. It looks, like, natural. Like, it doesn't look like,
00:16:50I don't know. Oh, thank you. I hope. Yeah, I mean, I was glad that it didn't go terribly. There was one
00:16:57time when it did. Um, it was just not cute. I feel like, okay, so what is it? Is it, like,
00:17:04does it, like, wear off and you get more, or what's the deal with it? So, like, it basically,
00:17:10there's a lot of debate on this, scientifically speaking, according to, like, the research. Um,
00:17:17somebody did, like, an MRI of someone's face after they had filler and it had supposedly dissolved
00:17:24because it wasn't where it was when they initially, like, injected it. What is it that they put in there?
00:17:29I think it's hyaluronic acid. What's that? It's, like, it's basically collagen, just, like, extra,
00:17:42and it's, like, an interesting, like, viscous fluid, if you will. Okay. I guess that's the right,
00:17:46I don't know if that's right, but I haven't done it in a while, so it's likely that maybe they have
00:17:51decreased in size. I mean, they're still huge lips. Thank you. But they're fake. Unfortunately,
00:18:00I don't think. Spoiler. Yeah, but it's okay. I mean, I always had a good bottom lip, so that is
00:18:05truly mine. So your bottom lip's yours. Mm-hmm. Top lip is fake. Yeah, for the most part. So what do
00:18:11your lips feel like to you right now? They feel like my regular lips. So I'm looking in the mirror,
00:18:19like, are they still there? They are. But yeah, they're just kind of there. Sometimes it's weird,
00:18:27like, kissing people is weird, because it's like, I don't know what my top lip is entirely doing the
00:18:33whole time. I'm just trying to make sure it's acting right. All right. So yeah, it's a little weird,
00:18:40weird. But sorry, that was so extra share. It's interesting. Yeah, I guess so. I guess so. But
00:18:51I don't know. I feel like it's something that it's sort of a secret, if I'm honest. But yeah,
00:19:01we've been having such a cool conversation. I was just like, let me spout out and share.
00:19:06Well, that's the point of a documentary is you get people being natural, you know? Yeah, yeah.
00:19:15Yeah, I suppose. Is there any chance you might be willing to kind of cut that part
00:19:23and make it a little bit more ambiguous? Are you serious? Yeah, if you could. I mean,
00:19:28I know that sounds extra and like, you know, it's silly. I should probably be okay with the fact that
00:19:34I did something like that. But I what I'm not sure I'm okay with upon reflecting is my audience
00:19:43knowing that because. All right, let me cut and we can talk about it. Like, talk about it. Talk about
00:19:49it. Okay. Okay. I always have like a natural aversion to like, cutting things that work. And I feel like
00:19:56it was such an interesting conversation. Totally. I totally understand. And it is your documentary.
00:20:05I just, you know, I wonder if maybe it's possible that I could have a little bit more say in like,
00:20:11what's included and what's not. I would just want you to look at the finished product and then decide,
00:20:17like, how you feel about it. And then let me know. Okay. Because like, at the end of the day,
00:20:22like you signed a release, and it's my footage, and I can do with it, whatever I want. But, you know,
00:20:29I'll show you a cut of it. And then maybe if you see a cut of it, you might feel like, oh, that actually
00:20:34works. You know what I mean? Yeah, sure. Yeah.
00:20:37Yeah. I feel like you're angry with me now. No, no, no. I'm just, um, uh, pensive.
00:20:46No, I just mean like, like, let me take a crack at it, basically. Like, let me try and make my version
00:20:52of the best movie I can make. And if that's in there, that's in there. And if it's not in there,
00:20:57it's not in there. And then you look at it with fresh eyes. Because like, what feels weird in the
00:21:02moment isn't necessarily what's going to feel weird when you look at it, like incorporated into
00:21:07a full piece. Does that make sense? No, yeah, yeah, sure. And, okay. All right.
00:21:20Well, what else is there to talk about? I don't know. What can we talk about?
00:21:24All right. So here is my room. Behind me, I have my calendar, because it's always good to stay on time.
00:21:31Here I've got my little pencil case, some beautiful Cracker Barrel pens. Two dollars total steal.
00:21:38Go to Cracker Barrel. Oh, I have these cute little testers from Caroline Herrera. These were only 35
00:21:44paired together at the store. I was like, that's tea. I'm getting it. What does tea mean by the way?
00:21:49Oh, tea? It's like, oh, that's tea. Like, that's, that's a deal. Like, that's the secret that I'd
00:21:56need to know. Oh, right. Oh, like, oh, that's the tea right there. Like, okay.
00:21:59Little known secret. Little life hack. What else is over here? I mean,
00:22:03I have room spray. This was something that I actually got from, uh, Tacit Paris. I never knew
00:22:11how to learn the name, but, uh, yeah, they gave this to me to try. So yeah, you've probably seen it
00:22:18on my whole Instagram page. And then this is my Sarah Jessica Parker perfume. I really do love Sex
00:22:25in the City. That's like one of my favorite shows. Does it smell like paradise?
00:22:31I can't smell it from over here. Don't, like, spray more of it just in case I hate it.
00:22:36Okay, pass it to me and I'll just sniff it.
00:22:43Is this what Sarah Jessica Parker smells like? That's what I would think. I would think so, right?
00:22:48And it's pretty magical. I love it. It's like, I was expecting to hate it, but I kind of like it.
00:22:54Yeah, it's not bad, right? It has almost like a cigarette-y
00:22:58scents to it. Or like a hookah. It almost smells like a hookah.
00:23:02Have you ever done hookah? No, I've never done hookah. Okay. This kind of,
00:23:06it has like a hookah-ness. I wonder if Sarah Jessica Parker does hookah.
00:23:13It would not surprise me because she smokes a whole lot in that show.
00:23:16Ah, yeah, that's true. I forgot about that. Um, what else? This is like my little
00:23:24everything bin right now, but when it's not everything, it's mainly just my hair stuff.
00:23:30And then over here, this is just like everything else. This is like a three-tiered system.
00:23:35Makeup. Nails and body. More nails and body. So basically the same thing.
00:23:45You have like a statue of big lips. Oh, yes, I do. One could say I manifested that as well.
00:23:53Um, but we're not allowed to talk about your big lips.
00:23:56Yeah. Um, then I also have this lovely turtle. I got this from TJ Maxx.
00:24:02Mm-hmm. Literally $15. All right. I like the cat poster.
00:24:06Oh, yeah. Thank you. I don't know if you saw the, uh, the picture of my actual cat, but.
00:24:12Yes, I did. I like to think of that painting as an homage.
00:24:16Mm-hmm. I like to be really organized. So I've got like summer tops here, summer pants here,
00:24:21and then this is all my like really nicer type stuff. Um, got some of this. This is actually really,
00:24:29really cool. This is a high ticket item. I got this from a brand based in Greece.
00:24:36They sent it to me in the mail. All I had to do was like shoot a video in it. It was really cute.
00:24:40Also got this from a little brand deal. This is like an independent boutique brand called Spencer's
00:24:45Closet. And they gave this to me to wear during, uh, fashion week last year. Ooh, this was my fit for
00:24:54Barbie. I made a whole reel about it going to the Barbie movie and like going in my hot pink. Me and
00:25:01my friends went all together. Did you like Barbie? I do. Yeah. And I, I did like her as like a toy or
00:25:08like in the movie. Did you like the movie? I did like the movie. I mean, I fell asleep a little bit,
00:25:14but. Yeah. Is that, is that, do we have to cut that out that you fell asleep? No, it's fine. I can
00:25:20admit that. But yeah, I have this as well. This is like my favorite. What is this from? Divided.
00:25:28Yeah. I didn't get a deal with them, but I did really like their dress. I think it's like urban
00:25:32outfitters that I did a shopping with me trip to urban outfitters and this is what I got.
00:25:38So nice. Okay. Yeah. Um,
00:25:43but yeah, that's, that's mainly it. I mean, I could, uh, I could try some on for you if you want.
00:25:48We could do like a little, Ooh, get ready with me. Or maybe even like for transitions
00:25:53in between things when we're like talking about stuff, we can like, Oh, look at her in this outfit
00:25:58and then changing subject in this outfit, you know, that kind of vibe. Okay. Yeah. That'd be cool.
00:26:05Yeah. All right. Cool. Cool. So yeah. Okay. I guess with that in there, wait, what?
00:26:12I was going to say, I guess with that in there, um, maybe we can cut out some of the more sensitive
00:26:19subjects that we were talking about earlier. Oh my God. Like really? Yeah. I mean, yeah.
00:26:26Wait, what, what do you mean? I mean, like, you know, maybe we can substitute like
00:26:32it's up to what for what? Lip filler for clothes. What's clothes? What does clothes mean?
00:26:42Like outfits? Like, Oh, check this out. I'm really cute. I can explain where I got it and
00:26:50what a good deal I got on it. Even if I didn't. Well, that's not as interesting.
00:26:54I mean, one could say that. Like if you're just putting on a jacket and talking about a jacket,
00:27:02that's not as interesting as you talking about the fact that you have lip fillers and giving an honest,
00:27:06like down to earth, uh, statement on that, you know, like, I, I just feel like you're,
00:27:14this is almost like you're turning this documentary into kind of like what your content is.
00:27:20Unintentionally. I wouldn't have agreed to shooting, um,
00:27:28your content for you around New York city. If I thought that like the documentary was literally
00:27:34just going to be more content of you like trying on stuff or whatever. Oh, so like, honestly, like,
00:27:42I feel like, um, the documentary
00:27:49like can be just us disagreeing about what the documentary is like this shot that I have on you
00:27:58right now. Like, I just like the shot of just you sitting and just being like a person and we're just
00:28:04having a conversation. Like to me, that's compelling. Like I'm not a young person who watches content.
00:28:12That's not compelling for me. I'm somebody who watches like documentaries where people are being
00:28:16real with each other. Um, but I think a way for us to meet halfway is the fact that like,
00:28:24you know, in the context of us disagreeing, there's a documentary there. Um, does that make sense? Is
00:28:30that something you would be more comfortable with? I do like the idea of it being more focused on us
00:28:36disagreeing about like what the point of the documentary is or like what any point to any
00:28:42documentary is really. Well, cause that's real. Like that's what we're, if, if that's what's
00:28:46happening between us or disagreement, I feel like that disagreement becomes the documentary that like,
00:28:53for me, documentaries and film in general should be always chasing like what's real and like what's
00:28:59happening right now. And what's happening right now is we're disagreeing about what this is,
00:29:04you know? Yeah. So can we, is that something you feel safe capturing? Cause I, I, I'm just worried
00:29:10now that we're going to go down that path and then you're going to be like, all right, we'll cut all
00:29:14the stuff about us disagreeing and just keep all the stuff about me talking about clothes and stuff,
00:29:20you know? Oh no. Yeah. I mean, you can, you can totally keep the, the disagreement in there.
00:29:25I think that honestly, I really, really like your idea there because like
00:29:32that is really compelling. I like things that have like, you know,
00:29:39a story I don't think is interesting unless there's resistance in some way,
00:29:42shape or form. Sorry, I'm just figuring out the shot a bit better.
00:29:44No word. But yeah, I, um, I definitely think like we don't have to get along and that can be part of
00:29:52the, the interestingness of what we're doing, you know? Cause we're, you know, we're two different
00:29:59people. Like I come from a very different world from you and you come from a very different world
00:30:05for me. Like I don't get why people make content. I think it's stupid. Like I'm fine admitting that to
00:30:10you. And I'm sure you get that from people in your life. Oh sure. Yeah. I don't dislike you as a
00:30:17person. I'm just saying like, I, I don't understand why people make this kind of shit. Like I like
00:30:23with this same equipment, like a fucking camera, you can make like an actual like fucking movie
00:30:30and not just like worship these brands and, uh, make your whole life about chasing these little
00:30:37fucking morsels of shit that they fucking throw your way. Whether it be a fucking coupon or some
00:30:43fucking shit that they throw you. And then you're constantly chasing this fucking carrot. That's like
00:30:49dangling in front of your face. Like that's fucked up too. So it's like us talking about that shit.
00:30:55And that's fine. I'm sure there's shit that you think like it's fucked up about me. I'm sure you
00:30:58think like, oh, this pretentious asshole that's like shitting on what I'm doing right now. You know,
00:31:03I'm sure you have shit that you would want to say to me and that can be kind of if, if we're rolling
00:31:08while that's happening, then that's fucking compelling. So I think that's interesting.
00:31:14Okay. I mean, like say something to me, like say, I'm not trying to force it because then that would
00:31:19be fake, but like, how are you feeling about me shitting on what you do? Does that feel, does that feel
00:31:27good? Does that feel uncomfortable? It feels
00:31:36pedantic. Pedantic? Okay. Because like, I mean, I kind of got the gist of it when I first like
00:31:45approached you and we had a little chat, you know, over the phone about what we do and what we're into.
00:31:51And yeah, I mean, I got the gist of it from there. So like, I do know that I'm aware
00:31:59that you feel that way. And I do respect it to a degree, even though I disagree.
00:32:07Yeah. I'd say content creation in general at this moment in time is much more lucrative
00:32:15than trying to work in film. I have no doubt that it's more lucrative. And also,
00:32:20I'm not trying to work in film. I'm just trying to make stuff that I like, like, you know, that
00:32:24you've seen some of my stuff, you wouldn't have contacted me if you didn't like kind of what I'm
00:32:29doing, which is just doing my own thing. Oh, no, yeah, you know, I'm not what I mean is like,
00:32:35I'm different also from people on my side, making art and chasing being in Hollywood and all that
00:32:41shit. Like I'm doing my own thing there. So, you know, I'm not chasing that shit in general,
00:32:48is what I'm trying to say.
00:32:49Hmm. So you don't want to make like, high budget movies?
00:32:54No, not at all. Really? If I'm not doing shit like this, like even though this day is not going
00:33:01great because we're disagreeing on what this documentary should be like this small footprint
00:33:06type shit, I fucking love. And I'm sure the small footprint in this of making content is what makes
00:33:13it tolerable for you to be showing for these fucking brands is the fact that you can just go out and do
00:33:18it yourself rather than like you being part of some fucking if you worked at some network or you
00:33:25worked at some TV station or whatever or you were, you know, on some red carpet interviewing people or
00:33:33whatever, like there's that path and you didn't take that path. So there's some acknowledgement there
00:33:38of like you like the fact that you can just get out there with a fucking camera or your phone
00:33:43and you can make something. So like we're kind of cut from the same cloth in a certain sense.
00:33:48It's just that like I'm looking for honesty and you're kind of, I don't know, it's almost like
00:33:55a brainwashing thing where like you're so fucking close to just like making something that's like
00:34:00honest and cool. But oh, these fucking brands call you and say like, go visit here or like a store
00:34:08calls you and says like, come check out our thing and make content about it. It's like
00:34:13I don't know. It's just, it's, it's a different place that I come from
00:34:17with. So it's hard for me to relate. It's not entirely dishonest, the type of content that I
00:34:26make. I mean, I can understand why I might seem that way because not everything is included. For
00:34:31instance, my voice, I don't include that. So that element of reality was lost. I don't have any
00:34:36problem with that. I think that's cool. That's fine that you don't talk and your stuff. Cool.
00:34:40No. Yeah. Yeah. But like, I'm just saying it, it seems like you think that I'm like
00:34:46Dick writing these brands and I'm definitely not. I'm just showing the best part that they have to
00:34:53offer, whether it be a product or an experience and I'm showing the best aspect. You wouldn't do it
00:35:00if they weren't. I mean, actually I should phrase that as a question. Would you do this kind of stuff
00:35:05if they weren't asking you to do it? I mean, cause I mean, I can get like, when you're starting out,
00:35:12you could just go and do stuff to show that you can do it. Yeah. But like, you know, I don't know.
00:35:18Some of the stuff would you even do?
00:35:22I mean,
00:35:26like, okay, let me put it this way. Let me put it this way. These are the best years of your life,
00:35:30right? You're young. You're beautiful. You're in New York City, right? Why aren't you a
00:35:36fucking artist? Like, let's, let's be real. Let's get real with this fucking documentary. Like,
00:35:41why aren't you making art? Like, what's the fucking, what are you getting out of what you're
00:35:47doing? That's so much better than like, if you were to tell a fucking compelling story, like,
00:35:53what is the fucking problem? Why isn't, well, it's something else, right? It's commercialism and it's
00:36:01the commercial area of things and it's advertising and it's to an extent it's propaganda. But that it's
00:36:07still like in and of itself, like a lot of commercials, let's say the, the Campbell's soup
00:36:12can commercial where it hops off the shelf and follows a kid home. That's like, there's a storyline
00:36:22there. Like there's a point to that and it's still art, you know what I mean? Even though they're trying
00:36:28to get you to buy a product at the end of the day, that still doesn't take away the aspect of
00:36:33artistry that goes into that. Like it's still beautiful. I think of that as like a short film.
00:36:40No. Yeah. Look, commercial art can be some of the best art and there's been really influential
00:36:46commercial art. I would have more respect for you if you were actually making stuff that could be held
00:36:52to that regard or could be in a museum one day, but you're not, you're like literally,
00:36:56you're just being used as a fucking pawn, dude. Like for real.
00:36:59I wouldn't say a pawn because like at the end of the day, there is benefits to the job.
00:37:04And I guess it depends on what your expectation is when you go into that. Like if you're expecting
00:37:10to be paid a million dollars the first time you get a brand deal, like you're not going to get that.
00:37:14But you will get a good experience. You will get to go places you haven't gone before.
00:37:20And you find that compelling?
00:37:21I mean, I think it is incredibly compelling. It's another way to connect with people. I think
00:37:26that's integral to art as a, as a whole. So I, I'd say like, okay, I agree to disagree with you
00:37:36in terms of like, oh, content creation isn't art because I'm like sold out or whatever.
00:37:41I haven't even like gotten that much money from it. I mean, I've gotten vouchers basically.
00:37:46So I wouldn't say I'm selling out in that regard, but I would say that I'm taking the opportunity
00:37:53that I have to use my assets and make some money for myself and broaden my social connection.
00:38:03So that was good. Like a little bit of that. That was like interesting.
00:38:07Are you comfortable with that being in there? Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. I think that's good.
00:38:11All right. Okay. So like, what, what would the clothing be?
00:38:17Um, I mean, we can go with a variety of different outfits. I mean,
00:38:23But like, what would it be? Like, what's, when you're, when you say trying on clothes,
00:38:27is it like, like, what's, what does trying on clothes mean?
00:38:32Oh, I mean, like, you know, little outfit reveals, like we find a way to,
00:38:36at least how I do it when I'm doing like a TikTok. I try to find like a walkway to go down,
00:38:44whether it be a hallway or like even just my bedroom door.
00:38:48Walk in in one outfit and then walk in in another one, cut to walk in in another one.
00:38:53And then it's like a runway, like me doing a runway show by myself.
00:38:57So then it's not actually like trying on clothes. It's not like putting on clothes. It's like
00:39:02like finished product, like here's me in clothes, right?
00:39:06Yeah, yeah, pretty much.
00:39:08Um, look around my show.
00:39:10Yeah, I don't know. It just sounds a little content-y to me. If it was you trying on,
00:39:16like literally putting on, taking off clothes, that would be more interesting,
00:39:22because that's not something that you would normally see you do.
00:39:25Yeah, it'd be more like something you'd see an OnlyFans model do.
00:39:32Right. But I'm just trying to, I'm just trying to give an example of like the fact that like,
00:39:39there's just no real reason to do like, here's me in this outfit and then cut to,
00:39:44I'm in another outfit, cut to, I'm in another, like, that's just not
00:39:48the kind of thing I'm going for. Like, I would rather just talk to you
00:39:51um, and ask you more questions about what it's like to be you and stuff. Like,
00:39:57it just doesn't seem useful to grab that kind of footage unless there's something about it that's
00:40:02different than what normally would be there.
00:40:05But watching me undressed seems useful.
00:40:12I mean, I didn't feel like you're pinpointing upon that, but well, yes, to, you know, I'll argue
00:40:18from the position you're putting me in. But yeah, it would be, it would be useful. It would be
00:40:23interesting. It would be entertaining. It would be beautiful because I would shoot it beautifully.
00:40:31Would you consider
00:40:36well-directed porn art?
00:40:39I would consider poorly directed porn art. I think porn is a genre. I think, um, I would defend any art
00:40:47that is art and art is art and that's all that art is. And so I'm not trying to make porn here. So I,
00:40:55I kind of like, I know what you're getting at. Um, and I don't appreciate it. Um, but yeah, I would,
00:41:02of course I would defend any art.
00:41:04No. Yeah. I just, I think it's interesting that, um,
00:41:10seeing me in the outfits isn't useful, but watching me get to that point is.
00:41:14Yeah, because that's normally what we would not see. So if we're seeing you putting on or taking off
00:41:21clothes, that's something we wouldn't normally see. Again, this is the purpose of a documentary is to
00:41:27give people a glimpse of you behind what they would normally see of you. You're a beautiful woman.
00:41:34Who wouldn't want to see a beautiful woman putting on or taking off clothes?
00:41:39That's like what people have painted since paint existed. You know, you can go into a museum and see
00:41:46paintings of like women washing their legs and shit, you know?
00:41:50This isn't porn. This isn't me being a creep. This is me being an artist. Like, welcome to
00:41:56fucking models and artists and the oldest fucking relationship in the history of art.
00:42:02A woman is beautiful. A painter or a sculptor, uh, captures them, you know?
00:42:08Right.
00:42:14What was the eye roll there? I saw the fucking eye roll. What do you mean?
00:42:17So I reckon that's the reason why you picked me for your little documentary then?
00:42:21That you're beautiful? Is this the first time you've been told that? Yes, you're beautiful.
00:42:26It's not the first time, not to toot my own horn, but...
00:42:30No, what I mean is like, yeah, okay, so, you know, you wanted me to shoot content of you. Great.
00:42:38I was like, let me do a documentary. Yeah, because you're beautiful is probably part of why
00:42:43I chose to do that deal rather than just get paid or something. Because I was like, this chick's
00:42:49gorgeous. Like, why can't I just do a documentary? That would be dope. That would be priceless. Art is
00:42:55always priceless, right? I guess, sure. But I mean...
00:43:03Don't you think it's kind of voyeuristic to deem watching someone undress, which is usually a private
00:43:10moment for most people? Yes, art is about private moments. It's about like you talking about your
00:43:15lip filler. It's like what they say about free speech. Free speech isn't there to protect
00:43:19speech that you love. It's there to protect speech that you hate. That's the only possible purpose. The
00:43:24only possible purpose of art is moments that you wouldn't normally see or you wouldn't normally
00:43:27appreciate. We see women walking down the street fully clothed all the time. We don't always see
00:43:32women in states of undress unless we have some sort of intimate relationship with them. But art provides
00:43:37us a glimpse into intimacy and into connecting with other people and being allowed into their world.
00:43:43You know, you allowed me into your world with this documentary. And so I fucking went down that
00:43:50path with you. And the second we started revealing things about yourself that are actually about
00:43:55yourself, you fucking back off. And that's fucked up. Is it fucked up?
00:44:00Yeah, it is. Because we were so close to fucking creating a piece of art here. You know?
00:44:06I think what we're doing right now is art. Is it not? Having a dialogue?
00:44:10Yes, I'm fine with this. This is good. This is all usable.
00:44:14Right. I just think you don't have to necessarily have a naked woman in your
00:44:20finished product to make it interesting or to make it art.
00:44:22I don't necessarily need to have a naked woman in my art for it to be art. I'm just saying you
00:44:26you were talking about putting on clothes and taking off clothes. The only way that I would
00:44:30want to do that is if you were actually like we saw you in your underwear, which honestly like
00:44:36fucking dude, like I've seen your fucking content. You've been on beaches. You've been in fucking
00:44:41bikinis and shit on the fucking beach. So what's the big deal about you and like a bra and panties?
00:44:47It's the same fucking attire. It's just that you're on the beach or you're in a fucking bedroom.
00:44:53So it's like you're playing this like moral high ground thing. Excuse me. You're playing this like
00:44:59moral high ground thing. But like, you know, what, what is the problem? Like, why, why do you care?
00:45:05Like what, who gives a shit? Did you like forget to shave your legs today or something? Like what's
00:45:10the fucking problem? But the point is like, you're the one who brought up fucking taking on or putting
00:45:14off clothes. Like I've never brought that up once during this whole fucking thing.
00:45:18You don't have to curse at me. Thank you. I curse when I talk. I'm not cursing at you. I'm
00:45:23expressing myself as like a human being. I'm using, uh, all parts of the buffalo and some of the parts
00:45:29of the buffalo is me fucking cursing, dude. I don't, I'm not angry with you. I'm, this is like
00:45:35intellectual discussion, right? Yeah, but I bet you'll cut that out, won't you? What, what would I cut out?
00:45:41What doesn't make you look good? What doesn't make me look good? I look like
00:45:46fucking great here, dude. Do you? Because you just told me that this would only be interesting
00:45:51if I undressed for you on camera, followed it up by cursing at me a ton. No, that's not what I said.
00:45:57Do you want to put any more nails in your coffin? What do you think I'm going to get canceled for this
00:46:01shit? No, because if you actually look at the content of what I said, nothing I said was wrong.
00:46:07In fact, I was backed into a, uh, theoretical corner, um, with how you were describing the
00:46:13situation. So I think, I think I come off fine. I think you come off a little bit
00:46:19fucking inflexible. Really? Yeah. I'd like to see if this gets to the final cut of the film.
00:46:27This scene? I'm happy with it. I look forward to watching it then. Okay. I think you would like
00:46:35this movie more than you think you would. Okay. So why are you giving me the silent treatment?
00:46:45Why aren't you saying anything to me anymore?
00:46:49I'm rolling. So I want to capture what you have to say about
00:46:52you not talking to me anymore right now.
00:46:54I disagree with you on a lot of things. Most things.
00:47:06Yes. That's fine.
00:47:11I think I agree with you on one, maybe one thing.
00:47:14What do you agree with me on?
00:47:15I agree that it's better to be honest.
00:47:22Yes. That's all I've been fucking saying, dude. It is better to be honest. Fuck yes. Okay.
00:47:28Let's do this. Can I ask you questions and shit?
00:47:31Go for it. I'll try to remain myself. Not any other version.
00:47:37Fuck yes. All right. Give me something from your life that you've never told anybody and let's
00:47:44capture that fucking honest moment and I guarantee you you'll feel better about yourself and you'll
00:47:49feel better about this project if you just share something that's real. Have you ever had your heart
00:47:57broken? Yeah. Have you ever broken a heart? Probably. Then I wasn't aware of it. Are you just so
00:48:07you know, cold hearted that you don't even care if you've broke somebody's heart or not or?
00:48:13No, I mean, I, um, who broke your heart? Let's get back on that. Who broke your heart?
00:48:20It was this guy that I, I dated when I was like 16 and we met online. It was so fucking stupid.
00:48:30Um, might've been kind of a trauma bond now that I think of it, but basically I found a way to
00:48:36use some college money to go to England and meet this guy IRL. And we had a whole little tryst,
00:48:43if you will, for like a week. And then I came back home, kept in contact with him.
00:48:49Did you get a spark?
00:48:50I'll let you figure that out and take a guess. What do you think?
00:48:56Tryst usually means fuck. I feel like. Yeah. So, I mean, yeah, that is true. We did, but, um,
00:49:03um, yeah, it was a really like whirlwind type romance. It was quick. Uh, the fucking or the
00:49:13romance? The romance, because after that it just became like torture, frankly, because there's no
00:49:19way to keep up a relationship that far apart. You know what I mean? Like he's in England,
00:49:23I'm in the U S we don't see each other physically. Like we don't get that time. And when we did,
00:49:29and then we couldn't see each other after that, that made it even worse. Cause it's like we had
00:49:34one taste of like getting that feeling. And then. So then what happened? They cheat on you. What
00:49:39happened? Yeah, actually. Really? Yeah. That's a surprise.
00:49:43Oh, not too surprising. It was long distance. Yeah. That's what I mean. I'm being sarcastic. Oh,
00:49:50yeah, no. Yeah. Um, yeah. Were you pissed off when that happened? Yeah, I was very upset. Um,
00:50:01was that before you started making content or after? Much before. Do you think maybe that led you down
00:50:07the path of like wanting attention from other people and showing yourself?
00:50:13Maybe. Maybe a little.
00:50:18Why do you think you want to show yourself to the world in the way that you have?
00:50:22And why do you think you're so apprehensive about showing yourself in
00:50:27more artistically significant ways?
00:50:33If you want me to be like, do you want the real answer or do you want the nice fluffy answer?
00:50:40Give me both. I want to hear your version of like a fluffy one and then give me a real answer.
00:50:45A fluffy one would be, um,
00:50:54my parents did their best, but ultimately failed to supply me with a, uh,
00:51:03a more secure self-esteem, if that makes sense.
00:51:08Makes total sense.
00:51:09They were very critical.
00:51:10Mm-hmm.
00:51:11Uh,
00:51:16and the truthful, the more truthful answer is
00:51:20they were just really fucking shitty people.
00:51:22They were physically violent.
00:51:24I'm sorry.
00:51:26Emotionally explosive.
00:51:27I'm sorry.
00:51:30No, it's okay.
00:51:31Do you want me to cut or?
00:51:32No, it's okay.
00:51:33Okay.
00:51:34I mean, it's important to be truthful.
00:51:37So yeah, that's the reason why, probably.
00:51:39I'm honored that you shared that.
00:51:45That's really beautiful.
00:51:48Yeah, no, it's okay.
00:51:48I mean,
00:51:50shit happens.
00:51:53Yeah.
00:51:53Do you want me to cut?
00:51:56We can just cut real quick.
00:51:59Yeah, sure.
00:52:01Okay.
00:52:03So start telling that story again that you were telling me
00:52:06before I started rolling.
00:52:08Oh, um, yeah, um, it was just so stupid.
00:52:13Me and my friend, Christina,
00:52:16we just got like totally bored one night
00:52:19and everybody was having a party.
00:52:21We weren't invited.
00:52:23In fact, we were kind of barred from it
00:52:25for reasons that don't need to be explained.
00:52:28She got in a fight with somebody.
00:52:29Anyway.
00:52:30Look at me more when you're telling it.
00:52:32Uh, yeah.
00:52:33So anyway, she, uh, she decided like,
00:52:37want to play truth or dare?
00:52:38And I was like, yeah, sure.
00:52:39So we decided to go.
00:52:41And she, it's just truth.
00:52:43Mostly I didn't have any dares in mind.
00:52:45She didn't until like half an hour.
00:52:49And she's like, oh my God, why don't we go skinny dipping?
00:52:51That was her dare.
00:52:52And I was like, fuck.
00:52:53All right.
00:52:54Well, I guess I'm going skinny dipping then.
00:52:55So I had to run across this quad
00:52:58because she somehow tacked on another layer to the dare.
00:53:02That wasn't, that's not the rules,
00:53:03but she made it the rules.
00:53:05So of course I had to do something extra,
00:53:08but so did she, she followed me.
00:53:10So.
00:53:12So what did it feel like doing it?
00:53:15Uh, cold.
00:53:21Ah, it was freezing.
00:53:23So that was, was that the first time you'd seen her naked?
00:53:26Yeah.
00:53:26And the first time she'd seen you naked?
00:53:28Yeah.
00:53:29Was there any attraction there between the two of you?
00:53:35I mean, maybe.
00:53:37Well, I mean, you decided to be naked with each other
00:53:39and you could have just been like,
00:53:40fuck no, I'm not going to do that.
00:53:42But you decided to do it anyway.
00:53:43So that's true.
00:53:45That's true.
00:53:46Do you dabble in stuff with women or?
00:53:50I mean, sure.
00:53:52You could say that.
00:53:52So you're attracted to women too?
00:53:56Yeah.
00:53:57In addition to men?
00:54:00Yeah.
00:54:00Were you attracted to her?
00:54:03A little bit, but it wasn't formally known, so.
00:54:08Do you think there was anything,
00:54:11do you think she might have felt anything for you
00:54:13or was it just kind of one way?
00:54:15I think it was more one way.
00:54:17Yeah.
00:54:18She had a boyfriend like all the time.
00:54:22I'm sure he wouldn't have minded.
00:54:24Right?
00:54:25Yeah.
00:54:26Of course.
00:54:26This shot is so good.
00:54:29Oh, really?
00:54:29Yeah.
00:54:30I'm glad.
00:54:31You look great.
00:54:32This is almost like the poster or something.
00:54:34I don't know.
00:54:34Oh, thanks.
00:54:35Yay.
00:54:37Beautiful.
00:54:37This is fun, right?
00:54:38You're having fun with this, right?
00:54:39Oh, yeah.
00:54:40Absolutely.
00:54:41Yeah, dude.
00:54:42This is better.
00:54:44Look, you're fucking,
00:54:45the camera loves you when you're being fucking honest, dude.
00:54:47I just feel like Rose in Titanic.
00:54:49Yeah, exactly.
00:54:50Paint me like the French woman or whatever.
00:54:53Yeah.
00:54:56Feel free to take your top off at any time, like she did.
00:55:00Sure.
00:55:01I'm just kidding.
00:55:02Nice try.
00:55:03I'm just kidding.
00:55:04I think we're good.
00:55:06I think we got it.
00:55:07Did that feel good?
00:55:08Oh, you do?
00:55:09Yeah, dude.
00:55:10That's it?
00:55:11Well, I don't know.
00:55:13Is there more you'd want to share?
00:55:17I mean, if you think we got everything.
00:55:18Well, I just feel like we had this really, really real disagreement.
00:55:25You know, we resolved it.
00:55:27You shared things.
00:55:29You opened up.
00:55:33You got raw.
00:55:35I feel like that's kind of it.
00:55:38I don't know.
00:55:38Well, I mean, it's not really an ending ending, but like
00:55:43us talking about it ending can be the ending.
00:55:46So I think we got it.
00:55:48How do you feel?
00:55:50I feel really good, actually.
00:55:54Yeah, you feel good?
00:55:55I'm quite refreshed.
00:55:56I feel like we bonded.
00:55:58Like, even though we disagreed about you, I feel like we bonded a little bit.
00:56:03Oh, yeah, and it felt really, really good to be so honest.
00:56:08Here, move back a little bit.
00:56:09I want to get the light more on your face once you look as beautiful as possible.
00:56:15Not that you could ever not look beautiful, but let's...
00:56:18There, there we go.
00:56:20That's even better.
00:56:22Yeah, that's awesome.
00:56:25Sorry, you were saying?
00:56:26Um, so you think we got everything?
00:56:30Yeah, dude.
00:56:33Cool.
00:56:33All right.
00:56:34Well, you feel good?
00:56:36Yeah, it's been good.
00:56:37It's been a wild ride.
00:56:38That's for sure.
00:56:39You look like, see, you look like you just fucked.
00:56:43You know what I mean?
00:56:43Like it, you have the vibe of like you got something out of your system.
00:56:48You know what I mean?
00:56:49Like it was catharsis or some shit.
00:56:51Yeah, in one way or another, I did.
00:56:53Yeah.
00:56:54I have you to thank, so.
00:56:56Yeah, you have me to thank for fucking you.
00:56:58Cinematically, artistically.
00:57:00Yeah, sure.
00:57:02Well, that's all.
00:57:04That's all art is.
00:57:05That's all sex is.
00:57:06That's all anything.
00:57:07It's just like, just get two people being honest with each other for X amount of period of fucking time.
00:57:13Right?
00:57:14Yeah.
00:57:14I feel like you learned something today.
00:57:17Yeah, I reckon I did.
00:57:18Yeah.
00:57:21Yeah, you just have like a, you have like a post-fuck days, dude.
00:57:26You're like just kind of high.
00:57:28You look high.
00:57:31You do, but in a good way.
00:57:32You look high in like a relatable way.
00:57:37Dude, your actual laugh is so fucking good, dude.
00:57:39You sound so high right now.
00:57:46Oh, goodness.
00:57:48Okay, um.
00:57:50You sound so high.
00:57:53You look so high.
00:57:54You sound so high.
00:57:56Well, that's because.
00:57:58Because you're high?
00:57:59Did you get high before this?
00:58:02No, I, um, I don't have a friend named Kristen.
00:58:06I never did.
00:58:07You don't have a friend who?
00:58:09What'd you say?
00:58:10I don't have a friend named Kristen.
00:58:14I don't even remember what the friend's name is.
00:58:17I just remembered the nude bodies.
00:58:20Yeah, nobody got nude.
00:58:21What's her actual name?
00:58:24She doesn't exist.
00:58:26I made it up.
00:58:29Wait, what?
00:58:30Yeah, I made her up.
00:58:36So you never, wait, you didn't go skinny dipping with anybody?
00:58:40You didn't do any?
00:58:42Okay, why did you make that up?
00:58:46I mean, you wanted something interesting.
00:58:49No, I wanted something honest.
00:58:52You didn't, I'm not going to cut that.
00:58:53I'm going to cut that out now if it was made up.
00:58:56I'm just not going to use that.
00:58:58Thanks for telling me.
00:58:58I'm going to have a lot to cut out.
00:59:00It wasn't that long.
00:59:01It was like just a couple minutes.
00:59:03No, but my parents also never hit me.
00:59:06Why would you lie about something like that?
00:59:14Why would you make a documentary with the veiled purpose of trying to get someone nude on camera?
00:59:20Is that really what you think that I do?
00:59:24At least a little bit.
00:59:25No, I don't think I do that at all.
00:59:27Why would you lie about your parents beating you?
00:59:32Why would you think that that's okay?
00:59:33It's the same reason you thought it was okay to ask me to take my clothes off for the camera.
00:59:39What about people who are watching us right now who have actually been beaten?
00:59:42How are they going to feel when they see you?
00:59:44What about your fans?
00:59:46What fans?
00:59:47Your fans.
00:59:49I have followers, not fans.
00:59:51Okay, sorry.
00:59:52Followers.
00:59:53Wait, why would you?
00:59:56So you made up that you went skinny dipping, which is like fine, whatever.
01:00:00But why would you make up about your parents beating you?
01:00:03So I'm not going to use that, and you're going to thank me one day that I didn't use that,
01:00:12because that's really fucked up.
01:00:13I'm sorry.
01:00:14I just wanted to prove that I can act.
01:00:18I mean, you did ask me about that.
01:00:20I'm going to cut that part out about you making that up about your parents.
01:00:23That's really fucked up.
01:00:24Yeah, the lip filler thing isn't true either.
01:00:33Excuse me?
01:00:36The lip filler thing, that wasn't true either.
01:00:40That's how this whole fucking started.
01:00:44Why, why would you lie about the lip filler thing?
01:00:49I thought it gave me more color.
01:00:51Made me more interesting.
01:00:52It made you more interesting to say you had lip filler?
01:00:56You thought it was hella interesting.
01:00:57Did you not?
01:00:58What about the guy in England?
01:01:03That is actually true.
01:01:05That's true?
01:01:06That is true.
01:01:07Are you lying to me right now?
01:01:09No.
01:01:11How can I believe you?
01:01:13You tell me.
01:01:15What other shit have you lied about?
01:01:17I feel like there's more.
01:01:20What are you doing to me right now?
01:01:21Are you sabotaging my fucking movie?
01:01:25No.
01:01:26I mean, you wanted something interesting.
01:01:28No, I wanted the truth.
01:01:29I wanted honesty.
01:01:30I wanted real shit.
01:01:34But that's not really what any movie is, is it?
01:01:36We can damn well try.
01:01:41So this fucking movie sucks now?
01:01:46Um, if you'd like to think of it that way, sure.
01:01:50But was it still entertaining?
01:01:52I don't know.
01:01:54It's a document of a fucking liar that I'm gonna release and then your followers are gonna be like,
01:02:03what the fuck is with her?
01:02:06Maybe people will be more interested in what you had to say.
01:02:09Which is what?
01:02:13That girls changing clothes is more interesting than the outfits that they're wearing.
01:02:19It is.
01:02:21That's art.
01:02:24Art is privacy.
01:02:25Art is intimacy.
01:02:27Art is what we do not see being shown.
01:02:31Look, I think you, I think you come off worse than I do.
01:02:36Do I?
01:02:37Yeah.
01:02:40I'm not sure how.
01:02:41I mean, you told me we couldn't cut anything from the film that you wanted to use it,
01:02:47all of it, so I just gave you more material.
01:02:50Does it really matter if it's true or not?
01:02:52So the lip filler thing was true, you did get fucking lip filler,
01:02:54because otherwise what would be your fucking motivation for lying
01:02:58if you didn't tell some truth that you wanted to cover up?
01:03:01So the lip filler thing was real, so I know that that's real,
01:03:04because it wouldn't make logical sense if the lip filler thing was fake, right?
01:03:09No, but it is fake.
01:03:11Do you really think I can't act?
01:03:15I wish you would act. I wish you'd do something with your fucking life.
01:03:18You're in New York City, you're in New York fucking city, act.
01:03:24Stupid fucking bitch.
01:03:25I am.
01:03:25Swear to fucking God.
01:03:27You're so fucking beautiful and the camera loves you and you're a piece of shit.
01:03:32How does that feel?
01:03:32All the world's a stage.
01:03:35I guess so.
01:03:41Are we done here?
01:03:42Do you have anything else you want to say to the world?
01:03:49Be true to yourself.
01:03:54That's all.
01:04:18I'll take you anywhere, I'll take you anywhere.
01:04:43I'll take you anywhere, I'll take you anywhere.
01:04:45Let me dream tonight.
01:04:49Please dream of us.
01:04:54Dream of us
01:05:00Show me where you go
01:05:09I just want to know
01:05:16I'll do with anything
01:05:20I'll do with anything
01:05:24When you dream tonight
01:05:27Please dream of us
01:05:37Dream of us
01:05:41Just dream of us
01:05:48Dream of us
01:05:54Dream of us
01:05:56Dream of us
01:06:03Dream of us
01:06:09Dream of us
01:06:15Dream of us
01:06:18Dream of us
01:06:22That was beautiful
01:06:32Dream of us
01:06:37Dream of us