"There needed to be an ultimate scene of Kingpin."
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00:00Okay, gang, here we go.
00:05Hey, Mark.
00:06Ready, and action.
00:09That is the best practical special effects work I've ever seen done.
00:15I had this whole kind of thing that I wanted to do, and you guys got it immediately.
00:19I was your dummy.
00:20Yeah, I was like, okay, how would you crush my head?
00:21And you started, like, pressing me down to the ground, and I was just like, he's going
00:25to kill me.
00:26It was crazy what we were doing.
00:27Vincent, you were on a mission.
00:28All the departments are together.
00:31Everybody sort of comes out perfectly.
00:34And then I was able to just let it go and just perform it.
00:38We needed that moment.
00:44Because he's not allowed to be violent publicly.
00:47We don't get to see him being Kingpin very much.
00:50And so there needed to be an ultimate scene of Kingpin, right?
00:54It was the transformation moment of going from, like, mayor to mayor Kingpin.
00:59Yeah, and to remind everybody that what's coming after this is going to be brutal.
01:05Any questions?
01:06If Matt had to do it all over again, would he save Fisk from Poindexter's bullet?
01:13How would you take a bullet for that asshole?
01:16That is a good question.
01:17I think he has to for a number of reasons.
01:19I think the obvious one is that the preservation of life has to come first.
01:23But I think also the idea of making a martyr out of him, the worst possible outcome is
01:28that he dies a martyr.
01:29Which Fisk is more terrifying, Wilson or Vanessa?
01:33They're tied.
01:34I like to tie.
01:35Yeah, yeah.
01:36The one who has the most control is the most dangerous.
01:39It's definitely Vanessa.
01:41Yeah, there's something scarier about someone supporting a dangerous person.
01:46Not doing it, but saying do it.
01:48Enabling it.
01:48Enabling it and controlling.
01:50Yeah.
01:50I promise I won't ever leave you again.
01:53I know.
01:54What's the biggest hint you can give about the next season?
01:59If season one is a Greek tragedy, then season two is the French resistance.
02:06The hero's return.
02:07The return of the hero.
02:08Yeah.