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00:00What a lovely sofa!
00:02And I think it's a welcome back to everybody.
00:04Oh, lovely.
00:05Yeah, yeah.
00:06We weren't here together before.
00:07Yes, we've done, we've lightsabered in the background.
00:10That's right.
00:11Here I remember, yeah.
00:12Good time.
00:13We memed it right up.
00:14Yeah, we did.
00:15The fire was great.
00:17Totally.
00:18So welcome back to everybody.
00:19Kate Hudson, of course, though, first time as a singer.
00:22I'm, yeah.
00:24Yeah.
00:25I did it.
00:26I finally, like, you know, took the leap and made a record.
00:29It's on you and you're in London telling people about it.
00:32Amazing.
00:34And please tell us you like being in London.
00:38Me?
00:39I love being in London.
00:40I lived in London for a while.
00:41Did you?
00:42Yeah, and I'm always thinking about coming back.
00:44Oh, well, feel free.
00:45My son is English.
00:46My son's half, you know, he's a citizen.
00:48So we're here all the time.
00:49Oh, so he could work.
00:50That's handy.
00:51Yeah.
00:52Get him over here.
00:53Yeah.
00:54Exactly.
00:55Keep mama indrescent.
00:58And then also back to Britain, Chris O'Dowd.
01:00Because you were in America for a long time.
01:01Yes.
01:02In America for a long time.
01:03But I married an English woman and she found it very hard to be away from Greg's Steakbakes.
01:07Of course.
01:08Of course.
01:09Well, were you not tempted?
01:10Was it ever a discussion that you'd go back to Ireland rather than here?
01:14Still discussing.
01:15Oh, yes.
01:16If she's watching?
01:17I hope she watches.
01:18Really, it would be very disappointing if she did.
01:20The discussion is still open.
01:22OK.
01:23And now, Naomi, you obviously know Ewan because you were in a film together.
01:29Yeah.
01:30Yeah, we were.
01:31Yeah, we can't remember how long ago it was.
01:33No.
01:34It was a while back.
01:35It was 2016, I'll tell you with interest.
01:37Wow.
01:38It was as long as that.
01:39That is true.
01:40Geez.
01:41Wow, you're both so old.
01:42I know.
01:43There we are.
01:44Look at that.
01:45Looking younger.
01:46You haven't aged a day.
01:47Either of you.
01:48Wow.
01:49It was such a fun job to make, wasn't it?
01:50Only that was true.
01:51But what was the thing that...
01:52So you had a friend who loved you and Miranda?
01:53Yes.
01:54I had a friend who absolutely adored you.
01:57And you were so blind.
01:58Adored.
01:59No, no, no.
02:00Still adored.
02:01Still adored.
02:02Still adored.
02:03The love is still there.
02:04Do you remember you turned up and they didn't know that you were coming.
02:08And I had organised this surprise birthday party for them.
02:11Yeah.
02:12And it was the best birthday they ever had.
02:13Aww.
02:14That's nice.
02:15Because of you arriving.
02:16Well, that's nice.
02:17Aww.
02:18I remember it very well, yeah.
02:19I remember it.
02:20It was nice.
02:21Up in Hampstead.
02:22Yeah.
02:23I don't think I knew that I was a surprise.
02:24No, you didn't.
02:25I didn't tell you that.
02:26I just asked her to do it.
02:28The birthday bird is crying.
02:31Yeah.
02:32Oh, she's very excited this morning.
02:35Now, it's an exciting time to be Ewan McGregor.
02:37Nearly 30 years since Trainspotting.
02:39Yeah.
02:40But you've just received an honour in the east end of Glasgow.
02:43I don't know if you've seen your mural.
02:45Here it is.
02:46Oh, my God.
02:47Oh, my God.
02:49What?
02:51That's amazing.
02:52Yeah.
02:53I hadn't seen it.
02:54I thought I had seen it.
02:55But now I realise I hadn't.
02:57Because it's that.
02:58Shite being Scottish.
02:59That is an image that's really ripe for corruption.
03:02LAUGHTER
03:04Someone needs a stepladder and some paint.
03:06Yes.
03:07LAUGHTER
03:08You've got tough times ahead, my friend.
03:12It won't take long.
03:13It won't be long.
03:14At least it looks like you're really enjoying it.
03:16LAUGHTER
03:17Begging for it.
03:18Really ready.
03:19Really ready for it.
03:20Oh, mercy.
03:21I've showed that sequence to my kids, you know.
03:25Oh, God.
03:26This is the toilet sequence in Trainspotting.
03:28Yeah.
03:29Some of my kids are older now, so they've seen Trainspotting,
03:31but my younger ones hadn't.
03:32And showing...
03:33I said, you've got to just watch this.
03:34So I just showed them the toilet.
03:36I think it was my...
03:37Anouk was about ten.
03:38I said, look, watch this.
03:40And I showed her the scene where I'm in the worst...
03:43When it starts, the worst toilet in Scotland, you know.
03:45Yeah.
03:46And I thought it would be quite funny.
03:48And as I'm showing it to her, I'm realising, like,
03:50what am I doing?
03:52Like...
03:53I'm shitting my brains out and my daughter's going,
03:56who is my father?
03:58What the fuck?
03:59What the fuck is this?
04:00But anyway, then it goes all serene when I do the swimming.
04:03And then I had to explain why I was down there.
04:05It was a nightmare anyway.
04:08Yes.
04:09Scarring your children.
04:10There we are.
04:11But you had another honour because, congratulations,
04:13you've received your star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.
04:16I did.
04:17There you go.
04:18Thank you very much.
04:20Well, that is a big deal.
04:22That was nice.
04:24What's really nice about it is just...
04:26I'm just...
04:27Over the back is Carrie Fisher's.
04:29And I...
04:30You're a friend of Carrie's.
04:31Yes.
04:32And I was a friend of Carrie's.
04:33And I didn't realise they'd done that,
04:34but they put me really next to her, which is really lovely.
04:36Yeah, and that's the reason why I'm here doing this play,
04:38because Michael Grandage, who I worked with on the stage
04:42here on Othello in 2008, and we did Guys and Dolls in 2005 here,
04:47and I've loved...
04:49I always loved working with him so much,
04:51sent an email to me.
04:53I hadn't heard from him for a while,
04:54and he sent an email saying,
04:55congrats on your star.
04:56And I'd just been in Scotland, and Mary, my wife,
04:59gave me a bunch of plays to read for my birthday or Christmas.
05:02And as I was leaving Scotland, I just plucked a play off the
05:05bookshelf there to read on the play on the way back.
05:07I thought I hadn't read a play in a long time.
05:09And it was The Master Builder by Ibsen.
05:12And I'd seen a lot of Ibsen plays, but never read one.
05:14And I loved it.
05:15So when he congratulated me on my star,
05:18I wrote back saying, it's lovely to hear from you.
05:21Thank you very much, first of all.
05:23Yes. Get that out of the way.
05:24And then I said, I just read Ibsen's The Master Builder.
05:27I must be wanting to go back on stage, dot, dot, dot, dot.
05:30Hoping he would pick up.
05:32And he wrote me back saying, you're fucking kidding me?
05:35I've got a reworking of The Master Builder on my desk that's
05:39just arrived.
05:40I said, well, send it to me.
05:41It's just like the universe, you know.
05:44So this is my Master Builder.
05:46It's going to be at the Wyndham's Theatre from the 17th of April
05:49to the 12th of July.
05:51So what is its connection to Master Builder?
05:53Is it like...
05:54It's hard to...
05:55It's a new play.
05:56It's not like an adaptation of The Master Builder.
05:59It borrows some of the characters and themes, I suppose.
06:02But it is a brand new play.
06:04It's what I'd always wanted to do.
06:05I've never been in a new play before.
06:07And when Grandage and I were talking about plays in the past,
06:09I always said, I'd love to do a new play.
06:11Because I love when you read...
06:12When you open a play up to read,
06:14it always has the original cast.
06:16And I thought, fucking cool to have your name on...
06:19You know, in a script.
06:21That's why.
06:22That's why you want to be in a new play.
06:23I want to do a new play, get my name in a script.
06:25For, you know, years to come.
06:27Someone goes, oh, yeah, who's that?
06:28I literally did the same thing recently.
06:30That's why I'm doing the play I'm in.
06:31I had opened up an old copy of Translations
06:34and little young Liam Neeson was in it.
06:37Oh, wow.
06:38As a 20-odd something, I'm like, oh, I've never been...
06:40Like, what would you call it?
06:42Originated a role.
06:43Yeah.
06:44And I thought, I'll do that so.
06:46Yeah.
06:47You're about to do that, are you?
06:48Yeah.
06:49Yeah, sure, why not?
06:50Yeah, so you are appearing at the Old Vic.
06:52This is The Brightening Air.
06:54The Brightening Air, gorgeous new Conor McPherson play
06:56from the 10th of April through June 14th, I think.
07:00Gorgeous piece, set in the Midlands, kind of north-west,
07:03but a slightly dysfunctional family.
07:06Fabulous.
07:07And this man, you have not been on the West End stage for,
07:09is it 17 years?
07:10Yes.
07:11I did a play in New York 10 years or 11 years ago.
07:14Wow.
07:15But since I did Othello in 2008, I haven't done a play here.
07:18What's that first show like?
07:20Is it just terrifying or is it great?
07:21I remember Othello.
07:22I remember we all went, you know, we did our whatever we did
07:25in the morning, the last-minute adjustments or whatever,
07:28and then we all went at the afternoon off, we sat in this
07:30restaurant and I remember sitting there looking, thinking,
07:33why did I, what am I, why did I do this?
07:36It was just, like, terror, like, you've never known such fear
07:40that you can't get away from, you know?
07:41Yeah.
07:42It's horrible.
07:43Yeah, because, yeah, because Naomi, you have done theatre,
07:45but you didn't like it.
07:46I did not like it.
07:47I had exactly that experience.
07:49It was like every night I felt like I was going to throw up
07:52and I had this question in my head again, why am I doing this
07:55to myself?
07:56Like, I am choosing to do this.
07:58Yeah.
07:59There's no one holding a gun to my head.
08:00But I'm doing this to myself.
08:02So I've chosen never to do it again.
08:04But also, you had a weird thing in your play where it wasn't
08:06just stage fright, but then you had two, this was Frankenstein,
08:09and you had Johnnie Lee Miller and Benedict Cumberbatch.
08:13Benedict Cumberbatch, yeah.
08:14The alternated.
08:15Uh-huh.
08:16And then you would die every night.
08:17Yeah, they would kill me every night.
08:18They would break my neck.
08:20Wow.
08:21On stage.
08:22And then sometimes I'd be left in the most awkward positions
08:26where it was, like, trying to pretend I'm dead.
08:28Oh.
08:29Also trying to, like, keep my neck from breaking.
08:31Well, of course you never want to do it again.
08:32It was really not the best experience I have to say.
08:35Break a neck.
08:36Just gasping back to life for a second.
08:38Oh!
08:39Oh!
08:41Have you done theatre, Kate?
08:43Not professionally, but singing live is new for me.
08:49Yeah.
08:50And it's similarly terrifying.
08:51And then something happens when I sing,
08:53and I just kind of, like, black out.
08:55And I just love it.
08:56Yeah.
08:57But it was something I had to really get over
08:59because I love singing so much.
09:01I had to kind of get the courage to be able to do it.
09:03And then today I did my first, like, live, live, live...
09:06On Radio 2.
09:07...singing on Piano Room.
09:08Yeah.
09:09And I was like, oh, my, I can't believe this is just going out
09:12into the world right now.
09:13Yeah.
09:14Which I had never done, and that was pretty terrifying.
09:15Go on, do a bit now.
09:16I was like, oh, my, I'm sorry.
09:17I'm sorry.
09:18No.
09:19I'm sorry.
09:20No!
09:21No!
09:22No!
09:23You did it, you did it!
09:24I was like someone I did...
09:25Don't worry, don't listen to that man.
09:26Don't listen to that man.
09:27And you do one of your speeches.
09:28It's like your old uncle.
09:29All right, don't go on it.
09:30LAUGHTER
09:31And you do one of your speeches.
09:33It's like your old uncle.
09:34LAUGHTER
09:35Don't go on.
09:36Now, here's the thing, Ewan, since you were last on...
09:39Yeah.
09:40..you have returned to the Star Wars world
09:43with your own Obi-Wan Kenobi spin-off series.
09:45I did, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I did it.
09:47CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
09:53Now, you know, I've seen all the Star Wars.
09:55Yeah.
09:56I don't know them that well, so I didn't realise
09:58that you're Obi-Wan Kenobi, you'd never met a stormtrooper before this.
10:01No.
10:02No, I'd never had, or Darth Vader,
10:04cos I'm sort of responsible for Darth Vader in a way, really,
10:08cos I left him in the lava there.
10:10And then he becomes...
10:13But I'd never acted with him.
10:15But the first bit of the stormtroopers was exciting, like...
10:18It just made me seven years old again, you know,
10:21the excitement of seeing one and acting with one.
10:23Look at you. Oh, oh, high on life.
10:27LAUGHTER
10:28I was trying to look tough like them, that's all.
10:30The stormtroopers are in Paris?
10:32No, London.
10:33Do you think my trousers are a bit short?
10:35Well, no, it's just the socks are very white.
10:37The socks are very white.
10:38I was going for that look, though, that sort of...
10:40You know, it's great. No, it's good.
10:41But then, with Darth Vader, the first thing we had to do with Darth Vader
10:46was there was a fight in episode three.
10:48I remember it was episode three, I don't know why.
10:50And we'd rehearsed it and we were rehearsing it
10:53and then we'd go and get ready, you know, they're like,
10:55OK, we're ready, first take, we'll get ready.
10:57So I'm getting ready, doing the touch it up, my make-up and whatever.
11:00And then I just start with my back to him
11:02and he runs up behind me and I draw my sword and turn round.
11:05And when I turned round and I saw Darth Vader, I was like, fuck!
11:09Like...
11:11I properly... I properly got a fright, like...
11:17It's like I'm seven again.
11:19It's the face of terror.
11:20You're young, you're young yourself.
11:22It's just like, oh, my God.
11:23We had to do it again because I totally came out of character.
11:26Yeah, yeah.
11:27Naomi's been very quiet.
11:29I'm sensing...
11:31Have you ever seen the Star Wars film?
11:33I haven't.
11:34I'm trying to get away with that.
11:36I'm sorry.
11:37I'm so sorry.
11:38I just left your face.
11:40Your face was so like...
11:44Darth what?
11:45Thank you for calling me all that.
11:47Listen, just a quick reminder that Ewan McGregor
11:49will be back on stage in My Master Builder
11:52from the 17th of April at the Wyndham's Theatre.
11:55But now...
11:56Yes!
11:57Thank you, yes!
12:00You have to come and see my play
12:03but you also have to see Chris's play.
12:05You can't...
12:06You have to see them both.
12:09It's only fair.
12:10Yeah, it's only fair.
12:11Yeah, it's only fair.
12:12It's only fair.
12:13Now, Kate Hudson, actor extraordinaire, has turned singer-songwriter.
12:16Her debut album, Glorious, the deluxe edition, is out now.
12:21Ooh.
12:22So we were talking backstage.
12:23So this has been a long time coming.
12:24Yeah.
12:25But kind of COVID really gifted this to you.
12:27Yeah, COVID was...
12:28It was like that moment right in lockdown
12:30when everyone was like, are we going to die?
12:33Is this actually happening?
12:34And I was just thinking about my creative output
12:38and if I was okay with it.
12:40Like, if I was going to pass away,
12:43do I feel good about the things I put out?
12:46And it was just like, I got to do music.
12:49If I don't do it, I'll regret it.
12:50And so it started the process of me being like,
12:54I got to figure out what that looks like
12:56and I have to do it.
12:58No matter what.
12:59No matter what.
13:00But didn't it all start with a Zoom...
13:02Was it a Zoom concert?
13:03I saw that.
13:04I've seen this.
13:05Oh, oh.
13:06Isn't it?
13:07Like a COVID...
13:08Oh yeah, it was a COVID Zoom.
13:09Like amazing.
13:10You saw that Zoom?
13:11Yeah.
13:12Oh my God, that's so exciting.
13:13Because it was such a...
13:14It was a revelation to me.
13:15It was like, holy shit.
13:16You can really sing.
13:17I can't believe you saw that.
13:18Yeah, yeah.
13:19I...
13:20Yeah, well, I had been actually singing
13:22in our parent band at the school,
13:24which turns out to have like five
13:26Grammy award-winning artists in it.
13:28And it was like a little obnoxious.
13:32I'm very serious.
13:33I got there and they were like,
13:34no, this is how the song goes.
13:36But they...
13:37A lot of the producers were like,
13:39why aren't you making a record?
13:40And then Tor from Stargate,
13:43who wrote Firework,
13:44asked me to sing a sort of
13:46pared down version of Firework
13:48for this charity.
13:50And then Linda Perry heard it.
13:52And Cold called me and asked me
13:53to come in the studio and sing a song.
13:55And I was just in that yes mode of like,
13:57I just need to be working with people.
13:59And then she asked if I wrote music.
14:00And I was like, since I was 19.
14:02And she goes, okay, let's write.
14:04And that started the process of writing Glorious.
14:07And then we took two weeks
14:09and wrote 26 songs in two weeks.
14:11Wow.
14:12It was like, it was just very prolific.
14:14And she kind of was like,
14:15I think we should stop now.
14:17And then it was actually hard to figure out
14:20what the album was going to look like.
14:23And these two songs on the deluxe were songs
14:25that didn't really fit into the album for me creatively.
14:30But I just had to put out, so.
14:32Well, here is one of the extra tracks on the deluxe edition.
14:35It's a little clip from Right On Time.
14:38That's good.
14:39You sound great.
14:40That's good.
14:41That's good.
14:42That's good.
14:43That's good.
14:44That's good.
14:45I think in an audience, there's always this nervousness
14:50about, oh, actor's going to sing now.
14:53It's really good.
14:54Yeah.
14:55And this song is, you know, it's about my mom.
14:57It was one of those things that I didn't set out to write,
15:01but it just, as I was writing it, it just was like,
15:04it became about my mom.
15:06And then I was thinking about, you know,
15:08do I put this song out?
15:09Do I wait?
15:10Do I?
15:11And I just had to put it.
15:12I just had to put it out, you know?
15:13Yeah.
15:14It's gorgeous.
15:15Absolutely gorgeous.
15:16Thanks.
15:17What did your mom say when she heard it?
15:18She was confused at first.
15:19She was like, is this about me?
15:22And then I was like, yes, it's your childhood.
15:24And then it kind of hit her and she listened to it again.
15:27And yeah, it was very emotional.
15:29I think I feel like, you know, as you get older,
15:32it's like you do become the keeper of your,
15:34of your parents' stories and, and, and, and we're such a close family
15:39and you sort of want to share those stories with your children.
15:42And, but like the fact that I actually get to share it even more outwardly
15:46feels, feels very good.
15:48It's really feels good to honor my mom.
15:50Of course you have sung in movies.
15:52You're So Vain with Matthew McConaughey.
15:54Oh yeah.
15:55And How to Do a Guy in 10 Days.
15:57Oh my God.
16:00But why did you talk to Carly Simon about it?
16:03Because we were trying to get the song.
16:05Oh, okay.
16:06And so I, I, we, we got her on the phone and she's like, sing, sing me the song.
16:10I'm like, no, she didn't.
16:11And she goes, and, and I remember Carly saying something amazing and it's so true,
16:18which is, she goes, I don't know what it is, but I write myself songs that are hard to sing.
16:23So like she writes these songs and then she's always like, and then I got to go sing them.
16:27And I'm like, oh, this song is so hard to sing.
16:29And then when I was writing and I was, I, there's a couple songs where I'm always like, why did I write this song?
16:35It's just so hard to sing.
16:37Um, but she was amazing.
16:39I said, Carly, we're going to butcher this song.
16:42We're going to butcher it.
16:43And she's like, great.
16:44Go have fun.
16:45And, and, and then everybody asked me to do it all the time.
16:49And I'm like, I want to do it with her.
16:51Like I would love to do redo that song with her.
16:56I think that would be.
16:57Do it. Yeah.
16:58I know.
16:59Wouldn't that be fun?
17:00Talking about musical superstars.
17:01Chris, how did you meet Beyonce?
17:04Well, she asked nicely.
17:08We, um, we had been, we had been in an animated movie together, you know,
17:17and she was the lead and I was literally a slug.
17:20But she had brought her kid, this was probably a decade ago now,
17:25but she had brought her kid, Blue Ivy, I guess, at the time, to see it.
17:29And so I met her outside the screening just after she had watched it.
17:33And she came over to me and she said, what you want Beyonce to say to you
17:36when she meets you, she said, you have the best voice.
17:41And I said, you have a great voice too, Beyonce.
17:44Is that the end of it?
17:53And then I talked to her kid for a minute about it and then they kind of scroodled off.
17:57That was about it, yeah.
17:59That was about it.
18:00But we stayed, we stayed in touch never.
18:02So that was nice.
18:03Oh, that's, that's, that's, that's nice.
18:05That's nice.
18:06Very quickly, Kate, we must mention you haven't given up acting because you've got a new TV show on Netflix,
18:11Running Point.
18:12Yes.
18:13It starts on the 27th of February.
18:14And this is a sports comedy.
18:17Yeah, it's, it's a, it's loosely based on Jeannie Buss, who is the president of the Los Angeles Lakers.
18:23And she came to Mindy Kaling, who wrote the American office and said, I really think this would make a great comedy.
18:29And, and we, and we did it.
18:32And it's really funny and a blast and everyone's so great in it.
18:36And I'm really excited about it.
18:38Well, that's from the 27th of February and Kate's album, Glorious, the deluxe edition, is out now.
18:44Yes.
18:48Meanwhile, Naomi Harris brings us Steven Sutterer's latest work.
18:53It's called Black Bag.
18:54It opens in cinemas on the 14th of March.
18:58And it's great.
19:00It's a big, well, you know this.
19:01It's a big ensemble.
19:03If he's set in the world of espionage, really twisty turdy.
19:07What could you tell us about it?
19:09Who are you in Black Bag?
19:10I play a clinical psychologist who is rather unorthodox in her methods with her patients.
19:18And that's all I can say basically.
19:20Because it's a kind of like, who do you trust in this movie?
19:24Because it starts with a list of names.
19:26Yeah, exactly.
19:27Of suspects who might be the mole who are releasing information to people that they're not supposed to.
19:34And my name is on that list as well.
19:36And so it's kind of unravelling who is the real suspect at the end of the movie.
19:41And that's what Michael Fassbender does.
19:43Isn't it so fun when you're doing a movie where you're like, I can't talk about it?
19:46Yeah, I know.
19:47It's really, really difficult.
19:48I'm like, how do I describe this movie if I'm giving it away?
19:50There's nothing I can say.
19:51But it was...
19:52Yeah.
19:53So Michael Fassbender gets the list.
19:54He invites all the suspects to dinner.
19:56And that's our clip.
19:58These are the rogue agents gathered round.
20:01And that's just some of the past.
20:05Yeah.
20:06And I have to say also that clip doesn't show what's great about this.
20:10It's a classic spy thriller but also with a lot of humour.
20:14Soderbergh has an amazing sense of humour.
20:16And I think that's the wonderful thing in all of his films that it has such humour.
20:20Ewan would know because you worked with him.
20:22Yeah, yeah, yeah.
20:23He's amazing.
20:24And Black Bag.
20:25What is Black Bag?
20:27What is Black Bag?
20:28It's something that you put things in that you carry around.
20:36And...
20:37No, it's the things that you don't tell.
20:40It's the secret things.
20:42Yeah.
20:43It's where you put all those...
20:44Yeah, your secrets.
20:45Yeah, yeah.
20:46Do you have one of those?
20:47What?
20:48A secret bag.
20:49Do you have one?
20:50I call it a bin.
20:54In my house.
20:56Stephen Soderbergh rejected that title.
20:58Been in my house by Stephen Soderbergh.
21:01Everyone looks so beautiful in that clip.
21:03Yeah.
21:04It's like such a beautiful cast.
21:06Yeah.
21:07Well, I mean, it's Cate Longer, Michael Fassbender.
21:08It's you, but Pierce Brosnan's in it.
21:10Yeah.
21:11Reggie Jean-Page.
21:12Yeah.
21:13Tom Burke.
21:14Yeah.
21:15Marissa Abella.
21:16Yeah.
21:17It goes on and on.
21:18It really does go on.
21:19As you're watching the film, you go, oh, they're in it.
21:20Oh, they're in it.
21:21It is terrific.
21:22And Stephen Soderbergh, you hear that name a lot.
21:24He's made all these amazing movies.
21:25Is he a very intimidating presence on set?
21:28What's he like as a director?
21:29He's not intimidating at all.
21:31He's just so kind, so generous.
21:34He just makes you feel so comfortable.
21:35But it's the most unusual directing experience I've ever had in my life
21:40because he literally trusts you.
21:42He's just kind of like, I've cast well.
21:44You've got the role.
21:45You know exactly what you're doing.
21:46So he never, ever says, like, I want it like this, I want it like that.
21:50He just leaves you to your own devices, which I thought was amazing.
21:54I mean, terrifying in the beginning, but then ultimately it's such a gift.
21:59Because Ewan, you've worked with amazing directors over here,
22:01but even something like George Lucas, there's a story about
22:04he was working with a young actor, a co-star on Star Wars,
22:07and he couldn't get what he wanted from the young actor.
22:09Yes.
22:10Do you know the story I'm talking about?
22:11I do, I do, I do, I do.
22:12Yeah.
22:13Yeah.
22:14I can't remember the young actor's name, though.
22:17Daniel Logan.
22:18Thank God you're here.
22:22Can I just say, I'm amazed that was written down.
22:25Because I was thinking, oh, fuck, I don't know it either.
22:30It was a scene where it's, no, here we are, with Star Wars facts,
22:34like, who was Daniel Logan playing?
22:36He was the son of...
22:39I think he becomes Boba Fett, I think.
22:42Yes, he does.
22:43Oh, thank God.
22:44Yes, he does.
22:45It's in episode two.
22:46OK, so there's a moment, he comes to my...
22:48I've got to go to their apartment.
22:49His dad...
22:50I'm chasing his dad, I can't remember why.
22:52And his dad's got one of those...
22:54He's, like, one of those...
22:55Oh, yes.
22:56Helmety people, you know.
22:58LAUGHTER
22:59And so, anyway, George was asking him to...
23:01Basically, he wanted him to be suspicious of me.
23:03The door opens and I'm standing there, and he had to be, like,
23:05suspicious of me a bit.
23:06And George wasn't...
23:08He wasn't making himself clear.
23:10And poor Daniel, who was only a kid at the time,
23:13just was...
23:14He was just trying all the wrong things and it was...
23:16So I just took him aside and I said, look, when the door opens,
23:19just imagine that you smell like I've done a terrible fart.
23:23LAUGHTER
23:24And he looked at me and he went, what?
23:26And I said, just try it.
23:27So I opened the door and he went...
23:29LAUGHTER
23:31And that's something that's the scene of the...
23:33LAUGHTER
23:34LAUGHTER
23:35There you go, have you got it?
23:36This is good.
23:37There you go.
23:38LAUGHTER
23:42It worked, it worked, it worked.
23:44I was like, I've always been directed by the kids.
23:47LAUGHTER
23:49Like, I had one kid that I was working with one time
23:51that was like, are you going to do it like that?
23:53And I was like, oh, I think so?
23:56Should I not?
23:57And they're like, well, maybe you should, you know,
23:59not be so serious.
24:00I was like, oh, OK.
24:01LAUGHTER
24:02There are no filters, no.
24:03Because, Chris, you do directing now
24:05and I heard you talk about how you love giving notes
24:09to the background artists.
24:11Oh, yeah.
24:12Like the people in the crowd scenes and things.
24:13You know, particularly when you're trying to drum up
24:15some kind of an atmosphere, there was actually a moment
24:17in the latest thing where Paddy Considine reveals this piece
24:20of information about himself and it kind of...
24:22kind of changes how his reputation is observed
24:25by all of these locals.
24:27And so I was saying, like, all right, guys,
24:29when he does, when he tells you all this stuff, you know,
24:31I need you to kind of...
24:32You're not going to love him as much anymore.
24:34You know, it's kind of like, as he's kind of walking away,
24:36you know, and they were like, yeah, gotcha, boss, gotcha.
24:39And so then we start, OK, and rolling...
24:42Wanker!
24:44LAUGHTER
24:46Boo!
24:47Like, no, no, let's bring it down, we'll go back down to one.
24:50LAUGHTER
24:52Talking of background artists, Naomi, you must know this.
24:58That's still that went everywhere from Skyfall.
25:01Do you know the one I'm meaning?
25:02Yes.
25:03Where you are giving your all and there's a background artist
25:06who walked by...
25:07This is in the film, so...
25:09I know!
25:10OK, this lady is just...
25:12She...
25:13LAUGHTER
25:14People...
25:15People just love this woman.
25:17LAUGHTER
25:19I don't know whether to just go back to her life,
25:21but people love her so much they start putting her in other films.
25:26No way!
25:27So there's one from Star Wars,
25:29which is just hanging out in Star Wars.
25:31LAUGHTER
25:33But there's a very good one for...
25:35I almost didn't see her in the Avengers one.
25:38LAUGHTER
25:39She really blends in, doesn't it?
25:41She really blends in.
25:43LAUGHTER
25:44But this one's my favourite.
25:46In Back in the Future.
25:48LAUGHTER
25:49APPLAUSE
25:50Very good.
25:51APPLAUSE
25:52So, Naomi's film, Black Bag,
25:55that is in cinemas from the 14th of March.
25:58APPLAUSE
25:59But now...
26:00APPLAUSE
26:01But now...
26:02Chris O'Dow brings us a very funny new TV series.
26:06It's called Small Town Big Story.
26:09It starts the 27th of February on Sky Atlantic and Now.
26:13So this is really your baby.
26:15So tell us all about it.
26:16Yeah, it is, I suppose.
26:18I came up with it and then, you know, this...
26:20I direct the first couple of hours of it and write on most of it.
26:22And we've got some other directors and fantastic writers as well.
26:25But it was something that came out of my little head when we were living in Toronto.
26:30I was...
26:32LAUGHTER
26:34Um...
26:35Where are you from?
26:36LAUGHTER
26:41So I was doing a film in Toronto and it was during lockdown, like yourself, you know,
26:45and you're like, what am I to be at?
26:47And we had this little red room, when the kids would go off to Montessori,
26:50I'd go off walking for hours looking for something to do.
26:52It was a stay-at-home order.
26:54In Toronto, you couldn't do anything, really.
26:56And so you could only walk outside and I'd walk through a ravine
26:59and I was kind of reminded of being home and then I kind of ended up writing this story
27:03and marijuana, of course, is legal in Canada and one thing led to another.
27:07LAUGHTER
27:08And when I started watching it, I just thought, oh, Chris isn't in this.
27:12But you are in it.
27:13Yeah, yeah, couldn't stop me, couldn't bring me down.
27:16LAUGHTER
27:17I come into it later on in the season, I played this blackguard, just a liar.
27:21I wanted to play somebody that just felt like a 100% bullshitter.
27:26Like, you don't meet them.
27:27You don't meet them in the same way that you used to
27:29because people can be found out so easily now.
27:32But I wanted to play someone who was like, can I believe this guy?
27:35And then, yeah, maybe.
27:37LAUGHTER
27:38The clip we've got is actually your character, Jack, the writer of the book they're filming.
27:42And here you are with Christina Hendricks and Patrick Martins.
27:46APPLAUSE
27:47The research tells me, but you look the same.
27:50But they're not your teeth.
27:52No, no, I've got my own teeth, but I had some...
27:56LAUGHTER
27:58Look at those now.
27:59LAUGHTER
28:00I had teeth made for a movie once where I wanted the guy to have fake teeth
28:04and then they were really expensive to get made and the movie didn't go.
28:08And I thought, I'm going to get used to these fucking teeth.
28:11Oh, right, right.
28:12LAUGHTER
28:13I'm perfect.
28:14I dusted off the old teeth.
28:16Yeah.
28:17And just stuck them in a new character works grand, you wouldn't know.
28:19LAUGHTER
28:20And is it right that you wanted to go back to film in Ireland since the end of Moonboy?
28:25Yes.
28:26We had done three seasons of Moonboy.
28:27It's in a similar area and I kept meaning to get around to it and just kind of hadn't
28:31and then this opportunity arose.
28:33So it's great.
28:34It feels like it's kind of a grown-up version of Moonboy a bit.
28:39Tonally similar, but adult themes.
28:41And actually, Martin Moon is in this.
28:43Yes.
28:44Little Martin Moon who...
28:45LAUGHTER
28:46Oh, look at him there now, 21, 22.
28:48David Rowell is a fantastic actor.
28:50It's so mad.
28:51We had him when he was 10 and he did three years and we thought,
28:54you know, fame would ruin him, but he's absolutely fine.
28:58LAUGHTER
28:59Gorgeous young fella, so it's great.
29:01And Moonboy all set in Boyle, but this isn't Boyle.
29:04This is a fictitious place.
29:05Why that?
29:06There's physical reasons I couldn't...
29:08I wanted to play around with the shape and the needs
29:11and I wanted there to be this magnet mind that's connected to narrative.
29:15And also I thought, well, I don't want to overimpose.
29:17You know, you don't want to overstay your...
29:19Boyle is still in it and we filmed there for a few days
29:21and essentially it's the town.
29:23There's a competition between Drumbon, our kind of fictitious
29:27Ballybeg type place, and then Boyle, this beautiful...
29:31I don't know if you've been to it, but stunning place
29:33in the north-west of Ireland.
29:36LAUGHTER
29:37Toronto.
29:38Are you from Toronto? Yeah.
29:40LAUGHTER
29:41And they kind of battle to find out who's going to film there
29:43in the end and so Boyle does feature quite heavily.
29:46I do think I've been to Boyle.
29:47It does sound like quite an extraordinary place.
29:49Is it a festival they have in the summer?
29:51Yeah, big arts festival, which I opened this year.
29:54Brendan Gleeson opened it last year.
29:56Big art from all around the world.
29:58It's also, or was certainly, the European capital of UFO sightings.
30:03Oh.
30:04Yes, I'm going.
30:05I'm in.
30:06It's great.
30:07I am so in.
30:08Are you into UFOs, Kate?
30:09Have you seen one?
30:10Uh...
30:11Maybe.
30:12Maybe.
30:13My mum has...
30:14Been on one.
30:15LAUGHTER
30:17It's, you know...
30:19Listen.
30:20No, totally.
30:21May or may not have been abducted by Ian.
30:24LAUGHTER
30:25In the 60s.
30:27LAUGHTER
30:30I think the sightings in Boyle may have been for the same,
30:32not necessarily for the same reason,
30:34but there's definitely a kernel of something unusual
30:37in the skies over there.
30:38Oh, I love it.
30:39Yeah, tell her to come over, she's more than welcome.
30:41LAUGHTER
30:42She can teleport any time.
30:44Because Ewan, of course, this is familiar territory to you,
30:47because Creaf, not a huge town in Scotland,
30:50Yeah.
30:51So, here's the thing.
30:52What age were you when you delighted the viewers of Scottish
30:56television with your French horn?
30:58Oh, God.
30:59LAUGHTER
31:00Oh, 16, I think.
31:0216.
31:03So, this is...
31:04Oh, are we going to watch this?
31:05I'm so excited.
31:06Oh, no.
31:07Only a tiny bit.
31:08OK.
31:09It's a little taste of 16-year-old Ewan McGregor.
31:11So, we cross now to Kay Duncan in the Grampian Studios
31:15for a touch of music.
31:17It was a real programme.
31:18LAUGHTER
31:19Oh, dear.
31:20That hair.
31:21It's all about the hair.
31:23It's all about the hair when you're that age.
31:24I mean, you had that hair with a French horn.
31:26I know.
31:27It says something.
31:28But also, yeah, because...
31:29LAUGHTER
31:30It's like punk French horn.
31:32LAUGHTER
31:33Why did you play the French horn?
31:37I started playing the French horn, I think,
31:39because the school had one.
31:40LAUGHTER
31:41For the chicks?
31:42I think they just had one.
31:43My brother had played...
31:44My brother played trumpet, and then the school had a horn,
31:47I suppose.
31:48I think that's why.
31:49Yeah.
31:50But it is absolutely right.
31:51I've always done stuff that's awkward and difficult,
31:53and the horns are not of greatly...
31:55Other than an orchestra situation.
31:56You've got to bring back the French horn.
31:57You've got to bring it back.
31:58I still have one.
31:59You do?
32:00I do, yeah.
32:01I still blow it now and again.
32:02LAUGHTER
32:03I do.
32:04I like it.
32:05I do like the horn.
32:06Good to know.
32:07Good to know.
32:08Just a reminder that all episodes of Christmas show Small Town
32:10Big Story will be available for the 27th of February
32:12on Sky Atlantic.
32:13And now...
32:14Yay!
32:15Yeah!
32:16Yeah!
32:17Yeah!
32:18Pick up yourself.
32:19Right now.
32:20We'll be back.
32:21We'll be back.
32:22We'll be back.
32:23We'll be back.
32:24Pick up yourself.
32:25CHEERING
32:26Right.
32:27It's time for music.
32:28Since her debut album in 2019,
32:30the singer-songwriter has become one of the most exciting
32:32names in British pop music.
32:34Here performing Focus Is Power,
32:36it is self-esteem!
32:38Thank you to the choir.
32:40Did you put that choir together, or...?
32:44Hello.
32:45It's just on my make.
32:46OK, your friends.
32:47OK, cool.
32:48Thank you very much.
32:49And you do know some people on the couch,
32:50because you were on with Kate before, right?
32:51Kate Hudson and I are colleagues.
32:52Yeah.
32:53We're on the show.
32:54Yes.
32:55We only do it together.
32:56Yeah, really.
32:57To see you again in two years, and then...
32:59When you and Senator Lutu, I heard a little,
33:01fucking hell.
33:02Sorry.
33:03You are a genuine fan.
33:05Oh, yes.
33:06Oh, absolutely.
33:07It's stressful, because...
33:09I went to see Moulin Rouge six times at the cinema.
33:12Ooh.
33:13And you see, in Sheffield.
33:15I kept that cinema alive that year.
33:17LAUGHTER
33:18But, yes.
33:19But I don't want to...
33:20You know, I'm going to play it cool, it's fine.
33:21Well, no.
33:22But, no.
33:23Not that good, because you did send us a picture.
33:25Now, what is this a picture of?
33:27Well, I went to Madame Tussauds the other day.
33:30LAUGHTER
33:31What day?
33:33Oh, it was Valentine's Day, bro.
33:35LAUGHTER
33:37I don't want to discuss my private life.
33:39And...
33:40But I...
33:41Be-lined for the Ewan McGregor artist.
33:43And you took...
33:44You took this picture.
33:45LAUGHTER
33:46Oh, my God.
33:50Beautiful.
33:51Well, it very nicely went.
33:53I'm not sure how good I'm looking there.
33:55It's a good day to not put any make-up on at all.
33:58So, Rebecca, that single, that's from your third album,
34:02A Complicated Woman, which is out April 25th,
34:04which is a fantastic cover.
34:05I love that cover.
34:06It's great.
34:07Oh, that's cool.
34:08Um...
34:09APPLAUSE
34:14Is it pure Handmaid's Tale,
34:16or is it referencing something else?
34:17No.
34:18Um, sort of...
34:19I feel like, as a woman...
34:21Here we go.
34:22Um...
34:23LAUGHTER
34:24You know what I mean?
34:25Go on!
34:26I'm fed up of talking about it, but, um...
34:28Sort of feel like you can't win.
34:29Do you know what I mean?
34:30So, the crucible and things like that,
34:33and the we're meant to be chained to the sink kind of thing.
34:35It feels like the world is wanting women to shut up
34:38and go back to what it was like in the olden days or whatnot.
34:42So, it's also, er, I don't know, screaming through, er, the, er...
34:47The, er...
34:48Oh, I've not talked about it enough.
34:49Patriarchal?
34:50Yeah, the, er, the patriarchal hold that I, er, suffer from.
34:55LAUGHTER
34:57You can tell I've not really talked about it much.
34:59LAUGHTER
35:00APPLAUSE
35:06Now, er, you're doing four shows in the West End with...
35:09To promote the album?
35:11Yes, so, I can't talk about it much, actually.
35:13OK.
35:14But, erm...
35:15I'm doing a, like, theatrical gig experience.
35:18OK.
35:19Erm...
35:20So, like, a gig?
35:21Well...
35:22LAUGHTER
35:23No, Chris O'Gowan, it's not.
35:24No, no.
35:25It's, er...
35:26I want you to come out of it feeling like you've...
35:28smelled it, erm...
35:30Jagged it, like, er...
35:32Argued with it and then, erm, kissed it.
35:35My album, I mean.
35:36LAUGHTER
35:37So, yeah.
35:38So, I...
35:39LAUGHTER
35:40Well, can you get tickets for this?
35:41LAUGHTER
35:42Well, it's sold out you, McGregor, obviously.
35:44LAUGHTER
35:45Er, well, listen, good luck with it.
35:47Good luck with those shows.
35:48Good luck with the album and thank you so much for that performance.
35:50Thank you for having me again.
35:51It's lovely.
35:52Yeah, it's lovely to have you.
35:53Self-esteem, everybody.
35:54CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
35:55And, right, that's really it before we go.
35:57Just time for a quick visit to the big red chair.
36:00Who is there?
36:01Hello.
36:02Oh, hi.
36:03Hi.
36:04Hi, what's your name?
36:05I'm AJ.
36:06AJ, and where are you from, AJ?
36:07I'm from London.
36:08Lovely, and what do you do in London, AJ?
36:09I'm a doctor.
36:10An actual doctor?
36:11Y-yeah.
36:12Wow.
36:13Anyone else feel old?
36:14LAUGHTER
36:15You're the doctor.
36:16Off you go with your story, AJ.
36:17So, I was working a night shift in A&E in quite a nice part of London
36:20and I was asked to see an older female patient with her husband
36:24and they were quite a well-to-do couple, quite well-dressed.
36:26And she was complaining of abdominal pain.
36:40So, it quickly became apparent in my examination
36:45that there was no abdominal pain.
36:48Her husband quietly takes me to the side and says,
36:51you know, look, it was our anniversary tonight.
36:55And I wanted to get her a gift.
36:57And I was waiting for him to say.
36:59And he'd purchased her some anal beads.
37:03Wow.
37:04I love this story.
37:05And they had tried them that night.
37:08Yes.
37:09And he was worried that maybe a couple were still inside her.
37:14Um, so...
37:17Wherever we thought this story was going.
37:20Yeah.
37:21Amy Harris, very good face.
37:22Very good face, Amy Harris.
37:23It's a horrifying, fabulous story.
37:25And I'm in.
37:26So...
37:27So we think...
37:28Can we get back to the fact that he got her something nice?
37:31Yes.
37:32He got her something nice.
37:33He's got her something nice.
37:34He's got men out!
37:35He's got men out!
37:36She probably asked for some beads.
37:37Yay!
37:38She asked for some beads.
37:40So the string is broken, there's some stray beads.
37:43There's some stray beads.
37:45So myself and my senior, we go in to retrieve the beads.
37:50And whilst my hand is still, you know, inside, the husband says,
37:56So, Doctor, when do you think we could try this again?
38:01Is tonight too soon?
38:03Oh!
38:04Wow.
38:05Is tonight too soon?
38:06So I just gave them copious amounts of lube and said goodnight.
38:09LAUGHTER
38:10You could walk.
38:11APPLAUSE
38:13Best story of the series.
38:14Yeah.
38:15Yeah.
38:16I thought he meant...
38:17I thought he meant, when can we do this again with her?
38:19Oh, I see.
38:20That's what I was...
38:21When can we do this again with my wife again?
38:23Yeah.
38:24When can we do this again with your...
38:26I do admire the commitment.
38:27Yeah.
38:28You know?
38:29They were committed to it and they just needed to get it done.
38:31Was that not breaking the old confidentiality, though?
38:34LAUGHTER
38:35A reread of the contract, Madden.
38:37I don't think they'll come forward to complain.
38:40LAUGHTER
38:42APPLAUSE
38:44OK!
38:45That really is all we've got time for.
38:47If you'd like to go to the show yourself and tell your story,
38:49you can contact me via our website to stay addressed.
38:51Hey, please say thank you to all of my guests tonight.
38:54Self-esteem!
38:55LAUGHTER
38:57Chris O'Dowd!
38:59Naomi Harris!
39:01Kate Hudson!
39:03And Ewan McGregor!
39:06APPLAUSE
39:07That's it from me for this series.
39:09I'm away next week, but I'll be leaving you for the final show
39:12in the capable hands of Claudia Wiggleman,
39:14whose guests will include singer Rachel Ciannieri,
39:17comedian Rob Beckett, great British actor Toby Jones,
39:21Derry Girl Saoirse Monica Jackson,
39:24and Hollywood star Chris Pratt.
39:26I'll see you next time.
39:27Good night, everybody.
39:28Bye-bye!