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00:00Hello, hello everybody, Sifan Molyneux from Freedom Main.
00:03So, questions from people around.
00:07You published the book about UPB in 2007.
00:10If you were to write it again now, would there be any significant differences?
00:14If yes, what would they be?
00:16Well, I did rewrite, or I guess update, or make more concise UPB
00:21when I wrote my book Essential Philosophy some years ago.
00:25And you can go to essentialphilosophy.com and you can get it,
00:28audio book, and you can get it on e-book as well.
00:34I don't know. I mean, I'd have to reread it all again,
00:36which is not a project that I have in any imminent kind of way or fashion.
00:42So, I would say that I think it's fine the way it is.
00:48So, I did update it and make it a little bit more clear about all of that.
00:53Because UPB, like the word science, is both a methodology and a set of conclusions.
00:57So, if you're doing science, you're either doing the scientific method as a methodology,
01:01or you're doing particular conclusions.
01:03So, I made that more clear in Essential Philosophy.
01:06Next question.
01:07What are your thoughts on amusement parks like Disney?
01:11I find they can be fun on the rare times when the lines are short,
01:14but in general, I can't justify sitting in a line for an hour for five minutes of fun.
01:18And, yes, I am entirely with you, as far as that goes.
01:23I do not, I do not like those amusement parks as much.
01:28And, of course, they tend to be in very hot areas, right?
01:31So, yeah, that's not, that's not my thing.
01:34That's not fun for me.
01:35And, also, the other thing, too, is that just standing in line,
01:39it's kind of tough to have, you know, conversations,
01:42because you're kind of jammed up cheek by jowl with other people.
01:44It's kind of hot, and it can be very loud.
01:47So, it's, if I'm stuck in a place with people,
01:50I sort of can't have my own thoughts in particular,
01:52and I can't really have any conversation,
01:55I do tend to space it out a little bit after a while.
01:58So, hopefully that gives you some kind of answer.
02:01So, I would try to avoid those.
02:03In general, I mean, some of the most fun my daughter and I have ever had
02:06has been just chatting, laughing, making jokes,
02:09doing goofy projects together, and so on.
02:12And, I do find that the amusement park stuff
02:15tends to be a bit sort of status overkill, if that makes sense.
02:19So, hopefully that makes sense.
02:21Somebody says, me and my wife are struggling with communication.
02:24I often bring all the shiny new peaceful parenting stuff to her,
02:27but she can feel overloaded with it at times.
02:30How can I respect her needs while still helping
02:33both of us do what's best for our 17-month-old son?
02:37She often feels a bit micromanaged,
02:39I admit to that, and have apologized.
02:42I want both of us to have the knowledge,
02:44but maybe I do feel an anxiety around getting it wrong,
02:48and as such, I am projecting that onto my wife.
02:51In turn, she can get, she does get defensive and stubborn,
02:54which I can understand why.
02:55Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
02:58Hmm, let's see here.
03:00Overloaded with it at times.
03:03Micromanaged.
03:05I think certainly that which is sustainably good in life
03:10needs to come about as a result of spontaneous self-generation
03:16rather than external control and management.
03:19So, you know, with regards to your wife,
03:22I would suggest talking with her about the principles,
03:26recognizing, of course, that we all have difficulty
03:28implementing our principles.
03:30That's natural, kind of inevitable.
03:33And have some gentleness, compassion, and kindness
03:35with regards to that.
03:37But, yeah, micromanaging her.
03:40The problem, of course, with micromanaging others
03:43is that it tends to communicate to you,
03:44I mean, micromanaging their mother.
03:46It tends to communicate to the children
03:49that mom is kind of out of control and incompetent
03:52according to the perceptions of the father,
03:55and that's not going to help at all.
03:57So, just be there to be supportive
03:59and recognize that these principles are tough
04:01to enact in a consistent basis,
04:02but it does kind of have to come from an organic place internally.
04:06All right.
04:09Can you release your books on Audible?
04:12No.
04:13Audible requires that the books not be free elsewhere,
04:15so I can't.
04:17Let's see here.
04:19Second, an amended-generalized version
04:21of the topic of the 2010 book,
04:23The Denzel Principle,
04:24that being, is mass media
04:25and their fictitious depictions of the idyllic man
04:27and the comparison to who will actually date them,
04:31one of the main reasons for the modern disdain
04:32women have for most men,
04:33outside of the illusion of infinite resources of the state.
04:36The opposite of this,
04:38on the male side,
04:40I guess, is the cool girl,
04:41seen from Gone Girl.
04:42But that's a bit overblown,
04:44since most men I know would settle for stability,
04:47if given the chance.
04:48Though you can say men feel this similarly,
04:50but there's more variation in what they'll accept.
04:54Okay, so,
04:56the purpose of the media in many ways
04:59is, at least the modern media,
05:01is to tempt men
05:04with an empty,
05:06shallow,
05:08demonic, really,
05:10demonic temptations.
05:12So, you get a bunch of stuff,
05:14you get a fast car,
05:16you sleep with a lot of women,
05:17you look cool,
05:18you have abs,
05:19and all of that.
05:20And,
05:21that really is the hijacking
05:24of the sexual
05:25purpose and drive
05:27of mankind,
05:28which is,
05:29of course,
05:30the pair bonding and having and raising of children,
05:32that's really the purpose of all of this.
05:34So,
05:34what
05:35the
05:37media,
05:38as a whole,
05:39is doing
05:39is attempting to hijack
05:41sexual purpose and power
05:43and sexual identity
05:44for status
05:46and pleasure,
05:48to hijack that
05:49which is designed
05:50for the creation
05:51of families
05:52and children
05:53and hijack it
05:54towards your own
05:55particular
05:55preferences
05:57and
05:58selfish consumption,
05:59if that makes sense,
06:00to
06:01turn you sterile
06:02in
06:03the face of,
06:05say,
06:06sexual desire.
06:06So,
06:07a man's sexual desire
06:08for women
06:08is kind of the foundation
06:10of pair bonding,
06:11a man's desire
06:12for status
06:12and all of that
06:13is important
06:15for the gathering
06:16of resources
06:17for the sake
06:18of families
06:18and
06:20this is sort of
06:21modern warfare.
06:22Modern warfare
06:23is designed
06:24to have you not
06:26have children
06:26rather than
06:27designed
06:28to kill
06:29adult males
06:30right now.
06:31so
06:32the killing
06:34of adult males
06:35in war
06:36is foundational
06:37to the expansion
06:37of the power
06:38of the state
06:38because then women
06:40have to turn
06:41to the state
06:41for resources
06:43because there
06:44aren't enough
06:44providers
06:45or their provider
06:45got killed
06:46in the war
06:47and so on,
06:48right?
06:49So,
06:49one of the things
06:50that
06:51happens
06:52in modern warfare
06:53is you are
06:55tempted
06:55with pleasure
06:57rather than
06:59continuity.
07:00You are tempted
07:01with sex
07:02rather than
07:02procreation.
07:03You are tempted
07:03with situationships
07:05rather than marriages.
07:07You are tempted
07:07with status
07:09not for the sake
07:10of resource acquisition
07:12and status
07:12not for the sake
07:13of having children
07:16but for the sake
07:17of pursuing
07:17lust
07:18and so on.
07:20Pornography is kind of
07:21involved in that as well.
07:23So,
07:23that is sort of
07:24modern warfare
07:25is to convince
07:28your enemies
07:29to not have children
07:30and that
07:31takes longer
07:32obviously,
07:33less dramatic
07:33but is
07:34very effective
07:36in the long run.
07:37Also,
07:38I was just reading
07:38in the show
07:38the other day
07:39it takes like
07:39four grandparents
07:41in Japan
07:42to produce
07:43one grandchild.
07:44It's wild.
07:45Wild.
07:46All right.
07:48Let's see here.
07:49What do we have?
07:51Oh,
07:52I got that one.
07:54What are your thoughts
07:54on Nietzsche's
07:55moral relativity?
07:57Well,
07:58Nietzsche was more
07:58of an anthropologist
07:59or an essayist,
08:01an examiner
08:02of trends in existence.
08:04He was a mapper
08:05of the mind
08:05that was
08:06and the inevitable
08:08results
08:08of the
08:09ideas and arguments
08:11that were being
08:12put forward
08:12at the time.
08:13that was
08:15Nietzsche's
08:15general goal
08:16and purpose.
08:18He was not
08:19somebody
08:19who wanted
08:21to compare
08:21proposed actions
08:22to ideal standards
08:23but he wanted
08:24to say
08:25what are the
08:26inevitable results
08:27of
08:28the kind of work
08:30that people are doing
08:31at the moment
08:31and
08:33because of that
08:35he's sort of like
08:35well,
08:36he's sort of like
08:37a nutritionist
08:38rather than saying
08:38here's how you should eat
08:39would say
08:40well,
08:40if you keep eating this way
08:41these are going to be
08:42the results.
08:43These are going to be
08:43the sort of typical
08:44outcomes and results.
08:46So,
08:47he was not
08:48I don't think
08:49that he himself
08:50I mean,
08:51it's hard to know,
08:51right?
08:52But as far as he himself
08:53he didn't work on anything
08:54like a universal moral
08:56prescription
08:56or UPB
08:57or justifications
08:57for property rights
08:59or so on,
09:00right?
09:01But
09:01he was describing
09:03the sort of patterns
09:05thoughts and progress
09:06of 19th century
09:07European thought
09:08and
09:09was of course
09:09chillingly accurate
09:10with regards to how
09:11that manifested
09:13in the 20th century.
09:16So,
09:16I wouldn't say that he himself
09:18was a moral relativist
09:19because he was describing
09:20more than prescribing
09:22if that makes sense.
09:24Alright,
09:24somebody says
09:24I've often had people
09:26accuse me of being petty
09:27and holding grudges
09:28against people
09:29who have done me wrong
09:30and memory hold it.
09:31Can you riff on the difference
09:32between holding a grudge
09:34and having integrity?
09:35So,
09:36holding a grudge
09:37is usually something
09:38that occurs
09:39when you
09:41stay
09:42in contact
09:44with someone
09:45and wish to punish them
09:46for a transgression.
09:48And
09:48that is
09:50that's a big problem.
09:51That's a big challenge
09:52for sure.
09:53So,
09:54in my particular view,
09:55you know,
09:56if somebody mistreats me
09:57and so on,
09:58you know,
09:59I'll try and deal with it,
10:00try and talk about it
10:01with them and so on
10:01and if they sort of
10:02continue to escalate
10:03or mistreatment
10:03and this hasn't happened
10:04in many, many years
10:05but something like that,
10:06then
10:07what I would do is
10:09simply not
10:10engage with that person
10:11any longer
10:12and
10:13would I hold a grudge?
10:16I don't think so.
10:17I don't think so.
10:19I mean,
10:19it's sort of like
10:20when I was a manager
10:21in the software industry.
10:24Every now and then
10:24I would need to fire someone
10:25and
10:26it would be
10:27trying to sort of
10:28work things out
10:28and sort things out
10:30ahead of time
10:30to try and avoid that
10:31situation
10:32but
10:33if
10:33it couldn't be worked out
10:35then
10:36I
10:37would just fire someone
10:38and it would be
10:40difficult,
10:40you know,
10:41I mean,
10:41to think about it a lot
10:42and
10:42work through it
10:44and all of that,
10:45have the conversation,
10:47do the
10:47off-boarding
10:48and so on
10:49and
10:50you know,
10:51sometimes
10:51I would be
10:52annoyed
10:53at the person
10:53for
10:54putting me
10:55in that situation
10:56particularly
10:56if I had inherited them
10:57from a prior manager,
10:59if it was someone
10:59that I had hired
11:00and that would be my issue
11:01not theirs.
11:03But
11:03after they were fired
11:05and moved on
11:06with their lives,
11:08well,
11:11what was the point
11:11of holding the grudge,
11:12right?
11:13They moved on
11:13with their lives.
11:15So,
11:15let's see here,
11:16I just want to make sure
11:16I get here.
11:18Being petty
11:18and holding grudges
11:19against people
11:20have done me wrong.
11:20So,
11:22if
11:23a friend of mine
11:24said,
11:25you're holding
11:26a petty grudge,
11:26you're
11:27holding on
11:28to things
11:28and so on
11:28with regards
11:29to let's say
11:30I had an issue
11:30with Bob
11:31and problems
11:32with Bob,
11:33then
11:33what I would do
11:34is I would say,
11:37okay,
11:38who was in the right
11:39and who was in the wrong?
11:41Right?
11:41Do never be
11:42afraid
11:44to ask
11:45or really
11:46in a sense
11:47demand
11:47of your friends
11:48moral judgment.
11:51I mean,
11:51I would argue
11:52they can't really
11:52be your friends
11:53if they can't
11:54exercise
11:54moral judgment,
11:55right?
11:57So,
11:58who would have
11:59a conflict
12:00with Bob,
12:01have an issue
12:01with Bob
12:01and let's say
12:03I start
12:04talking to Bob
12:05and my friend
12:06is like,
12:07oh,
12:07you're holding
12:07a grudge
12:07and it's like,
12:08okay,
12:08who was in the right?
12:10Who was in
12:11the right?
12:13Now,
12:13if
12:14my friend
12:15says,
12:16oh,
12:16Bob was in
12:16the right,
12:17then I would
12:17say,
12:17well,
12:18why didn't
12:18you tell me
12:19that at the
12:19time or
12:20why didn't
12:20you try
12:21and intervene
12:22at the time
12:22and help
12:23me do better
12:24if you made
12:24a good case
12:25for Bob
12:25being in
12:25the right?
12:26And if he
12:27says,
12:27well,
12:27Bob was in
12:27the wrong,
12:28then it's
12:28like,
12:28well,
12:29if Bob
12:29was in
12:29the wrong
12:30and I
12:30tried to
12:30talk about
12:31it with
12:31him and I
12:31couldn't
12:31resolve it
12:32and I
12:33decided to
12:33move on,
12:35then how
12:36is that
12:37holding a grudge
12:39that's making
12:39a decision
12:40based upon,
12:40you know,
12:41reasonable
12:42moral
12:42absolutes.
12:44All right.
12:46Yeah,
12:46but don't,
12:47and if the
12:47person won't,
12:48well,
12:48I don't want
12:49to make a
12:49decision,
12:49I don't want
12:50to,
12:50right?
12:50If you have
12:51a really
12:51wishy-washy
12:52friend who,
12:52if you have
12:53a fairly
12:54significant
12:54conflict with
12:55someone and
12:55that person
12:55won't even
12:56take a side,
12:57then I would
12:58say,
12:58that's kind
12:59of important,
13:00right?
13:00Can you really
13:01have a friend
13:01who can't
13:03make any
13:03particular
13:04moral decisions?
13:04I would say
13:05not really.
13:07So,
13:07you know,
13:09holding a grudge
13:09is when,
13:10I assume,
13:11it's basically
13:11when you
13:12keep a petty
13:14difference or
13:14opposition to
13:15someone without
13:16any sort of
13:18foundational moral
13:19justification.
13:20Okay,
13:20well,
13:21then if somebody
13:21says you're
13:22holding a grudge,
13:22say,
13:22okay,
13:23well,
13:23who was in
13:24the right,
13:24who was in
13:25the wrong
13:25in this
13:26conflict?
13:27And you can
13:28obviously go over
13:28the details and
13:29feel free to
13:29talk to Bob,
13:30but,
13:31you know,
13:31you're going
13:31to have to
13:31come to some
13:32kind of decision,
13:32right?
13:33And if it
13:34turns out that
13:34Bob was in
13:35the right and
13:35I was unjust,
13:36then I will
13:36apologize to
13:37Bob and work
13:38to fix things
13:38up.
13:39If it turns out
13:40that I was in
13:40the right and
13:41Bob was in
13:41the wrong,
13:41then don't
13:42accuse me of
13:42holding a
13:43grudge anymore.
13:43You know,
13:44just this kind
13:45of stuff as
13:45a whole.
13:46So,
13:47yeah,
13:48just try not
13:49to stay on
13:50the receiving
13:50end of these
13:52kinds of
13:52judgments and
13:53put them back
13:54on the person
13:55judging you.
13:55If somebody's
13:56judging you as
13:57being morally
13:57deficient because
13:58you're holding
13:58a grudge,
13:59then have them
13:59spell out their
14:00moral reasons.
14:02Do you still
14:02have that interview
14:03with the guy who
14:04the care and he
14:04talked about all
14:05the fraud?
14:06If so,
14:06is it on
14:07Rumble?
14:07I think it's
14:08from 2017.
14:09So,
14:09FDRpodcasts.com.
14:12That's where
14:12you need to go.
14:13FDRpodcasts.com.
14:14And just do a
14:15search.
14:15I don't know.
14:16What are you
14:17most excited
14:18about in terms
14:18of the future?
14:20Family,
14:21is he going
14:21out into the
14:21world and all
14:22that kind of
14:23stuff.
14:23It's going to
14:23be very cool.
14:24Why do some
14:27people like to
14:27play psychological
14:28mind games with
14:29their supposed
14:29friends?
14:31Things like
14:31backhanded
14:32compliments,
14:32gaslighting,
14:33undermining
14:34confidence by
14:35subtly planting
14:35insecurity,
14:36etc.
14:36Seems like
14:37some people
14:37get a real
14:37kick out of
14:38that.
14:40Well,
14:41it's usually
14:41intrasexual
14:42competition.
14:43Right?
14:44So,
14:45the general
14:46rule,
14:47this is just
14:47let's sit around
14:48guys,
14:48right?
14:49Is that
14:50you are more
14:51likely to meet
14:53a potential mate
14:54if you are with
14:55other men.
14:57Right?
14:57It could be with
14:58women too,
14:58but in general
14:59with other men.
15:00Because when
15:01you're with
15:01other men,
15:02you're showing
15:02that you have
15:02social skills,
15:03you have people
15:03who like you,
15:04people who are
15:04willing to be
15:05a wingman,
15:05and so on,
15:06right?
15:06So,
15:08to be part of
15:09a group of
15:09men is to
15:11increase your
15:13chances of
15:13finding a
15:14potential mate.
15:16However,
15:17when you are
15:18with,
15:18let's say you're
15:19with three other
15:20guys,
15:20there's four of
15:21you,
15:21right?
15:22And you're
15:22with three other
15:22guys at a bar
15:23or something like
15:23that,
15:24or some place,
15:25frisbee,
15:25golf,
15:25whatever,
15:26and you're
15:27with people,
15:28well,
15:29you get a
15:31plus because
15:32you're with
15:32other guys
15:33to meet girls,
15:34but you get a
15:34minus in that
15:35they might prefer
15:37your friends to
15:37you.
15:39So,
15:39to be with
15:40men,
15:44other men,
15:45is a plus.
15:45However,
15:46to undermine
15:47the other men
15:47is also a plus
15:48because then you
15:49appear to be
15:49the most confident.
15:50So,
15:51in general,
15:51I think that's
15:52usually what's
15:52going on.
15:54All right.
15:54how do we
15:56balance the
15:57inherent tension
15:57between individual
15:59freedom and the
16:00collective responsibility
16:01to protect the
16:01well-being of
16:02society?
16:03And can one
16:03truly exist without
16:04undermining the
16:05other?
16:06So,
16:07for that,
16:08I'm sorry to
16:09toss you off on
16:09a book,
16:10but for that,
16:11I would recommend
16:11my two books,
16:14Everyday Anarchy
16:15and Practical
16:16Anarchy.
16:17And those two
16:18books will help.
16:20Also,
16:20I would recommend
16:21my novel called
16:21The Future,
16:23which you can
16:23get at
16:23freedoman.com
16:24slash books.
16:26Let's see here.
16:27Have you seen
16:27any movies in
16:284DX?
16:29I do not think
16:29so.
16:31Is procreation a
16:32violation of the
16:32non-aggression
16:33principle?
16:33No,
16:34because it does
16:34not initiate the
16:35use of force to
16:36give birth.
16:38Is it terrible to
16:39steal someone's
16:39girlfriend?
16:40Isn't it kind of a
16:41free-for-all unless
16:41you are married?
16:42Like, bro,
16:43love and relationships
16:43are a competition
16:44use news units.
16:46That's that old
16:46joke, you know,
16:47if there's a really
16:48popular girl, it's
16:491v20, but she's
16:50got a boyfriend,
16:50it's only 1v1.
16:52But I would say
16:53that it's probably
16:56not a great idea
16:57to steal someone's
16:58girlfriend, because
16:59if she'll cheat with
17:00you, she'll cheat
17:01on you.
17:02So, although I have
17:03known, I did know a
17:05couple who met
17:05when they were both
17:08married to other
17:08people, and they did
17:09end up making a
17:10sustainable go of it
17:11as a whole.
17:12it's not generally
17:14the best way to
17:15start things off.
17:18Alright, hey
17:19Steph, long-time
17:20listener, first-time
17:20commenter of my
17:21questions, how are
17:22you doing?
17:22I'm doing well,
17:22thank you.
17:23I miss your
17:24YouTube channel.
17:24Also, what has
17:25surprised you the
17:25most about the
17:26shadow ban and
17:26your being made
17:27anathema by the
17:28ruling technate?
17:29I think, really, in
17:31hindsight, looking
17:32back on it, it was
17:33what a positive
17:34experience that's all
17:35been.
17:36I know, it sounds
17:37kind of odd.
17:37what a positive
17:39experience that has
17:41been as a whole.
17:43And I feel sort of
17:45very liberated and
17:47free and self-actualized
17:50and I have sort of
17:52maximum free will.
17:53It did feel, honestly,
17:55it did feel a little
17:56bit like a treadmill
17:56at times.
17:58Sort of the old show,
18:00you know, 10
18:00million views or
18:01downloads a month
18:02or whatever, right?
18:03Oof, you know, like
18:04I was interviewing,
18:05say, three or four
18:06people.
18:08A week, that meant
18:09I had to read, like,
18:10you know, sometimes
18:1110 or 12 or even
18:13more books a week.
18:14It was really quite a
18:15treadmill of
18:16preparation.
18:18And that was fine.
18:19No issue with it.
18:20It was fun to do at
18:21the time and enjoyable
18:21and enriching and
18:22worthwhile.
18:23But I would certainly
18:24say that in the
18:26long run, I'm very
18:28pleased at having
18:30been able to get
18:31back to the stuff
18:33that was kind of
18:33missing for me
18:34back in the day.
18:36I mean, to write
18:37Peaceful Parenting
18:37was great, to write
18:38my two novels
18:39was great, and to
18:42feel more in control
18:43of my own sort of
18:44time and schedule
18:45to be able to do
18:45more call-ins was
18:47great.
18:48So I would say
18:49that it was, that
18:51the pluses of it
18:52are something that
18:53was the most
18:55surprising thing.
18:57Somebody says, I
18:57know you're a
18:58healthy guy and you
18:58probably don't eat
18:59fried chicken a lot.
19:00Just give me, give me,
19:01give me fried chicken.
19:03But when you do,
19:04what's your favorite
19:04piece?
19:05Gosh, when was the
19:05last time I ate
19:06fried chicken?
19:07Well, I can't
19:08remember, but I'm a
19:09leg guy as a whole.
19:11Ah, do you really
19:12believe in unfettered
19:13capitalism with
19:14absolutely no
19:14restraint, even if it
19:16means loss of human
19:17rights and rampant
19:18pollution?
19:20I mean, there really
19:21is, of course, no
19:21such thing as
19:22capitalism.
19:23It's just sort of an
19:24abstract concept or
19:26description.
19:27There are people who
19:29are voluntarily trading
19:30to mutual benefit.
19:31So, when you think
19:35of trade, think of
19:39dating.
19:40Think of dating.
19:42Say, do you believe
19:43that people should just
19:44be allowed to pick
19:45their own dating
19:45partners and date
19:46whoever they want to
19:47sort of mutual
19:48advantage?
19:49Do you think that
19:49people should just be
19:50able to get married to
19:51whoever they want to
19:51mutual advantage, blah,
19:52blah, blah, right?
19:53Do you think that
19:54people should be able
19:54to stay in
19:55relationships or break
19:55up in relationships
19:56based upon what they
19:59perceive as best for
20:00them?
20:00or should there be
20:02a sort of central
20:03registry where people
20:03have to get assigned
20:05dating, sexual, and
20:07romantic and marital
20:08partners?
20:09Do you think that
20:09people should just be
20:10able to choose the
20:10mother or father of
20:12their children or
20:12should they be forced
20:14by the state or some
20:16other agency to who
20:17they're going to
20:18procreate with, right?
20:19Well, it's really all
20:21it comes down to, right?
20:22With absolutely no
20:23restraint.
20:25Oh, there is
20:26restraint and the
20:27restraint is
20:28consequences.
20:29So, you know, if you
20:31cheat people, then it
20:34will cost you your
20:35reputation to some
20:35degree, right?
20:36So, you cheat people
20:37and people want to do
20:38business with you and
20:39so on.
20:39In a truly free society,
20:41you would have sort of
20:42a contract rating, which
20:44would be a rating of how
20:44well you fulfill your
20:45contracts.
20:47And if you cheated
20:48people, then people
20:50would not want to do
20:52business with you.
20:53It would be more
20:53expensive to do
20:54business with you and
20:55so on, right?
20:55So, there are tons
20:56of consequences if
20:57you damage somebody
20:58else's property through
21:00the, you know, unwise
21:02exercise of your own
21:03property rights, then
21:04you're liable for the
21:05damage to somebody
21:05else's property and so
21:06on, right?
21:08This is an old Murray
21:09Rothbard story about the
21:1019th century in England
21:12that the sort of new
21:14satanic mills were
21:16pumping a whole bunch
21:17of pollution onto the
21:18apple orchards that were
21:20around London.
21:22And, of course, the
21:23apple orchard farmers took
21:25the factory owners to
21:27court, but the
21:29government basically
21:29said, oh, well, we're
21:30getting way more taxes
21:32from the factory owners
21:33than we are from the
21:34apple orchard farmers,
21:36so we're just going to
21:37side with them and
21:37you're going to have to
21:38move, right?
21:38So, if you're concerned
21:41about people's, people
21:42acting in a negative way
21:44without consequences,
21:45you should be the most
21:45concerned about the
21:47state.
21:48So, somebody, the last
21:49question, are you still
21:50a voluntarist?
21:52And, of course, the
21:53answer is, it's not
21:55really up to me, it's
21:56up to facts, right?
21:57I mean, do you still
21:58believe that the earth
22:00is a sphere?
22:02It's not a willed thing,
22:03it's not a chosen thing,
22:04it's just based upon
22:05consistency, universality,
22:06and morality.
22:08Well, I hope this helps.
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