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00:00I think the first time a lot of people or at least the golfing world heard your name was,
00:04of course, when Tiger Woods hired you for the first time. This was in 2014. Is that correct?
00:10Yeah. Is that what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. So I was a senior in college. Chris, when you get that phone
00:16call, first off, were you expecting it? And did you have a relationship with Tiger at the time?
00:21And I guess, how did you guys get set up? I had a relationship with Noda Begay. Yeah. And he had
00:27kind of followed my career a bit in Dallas and he just felt like we would hit it off. So he
00:32facilitated a meeting between us. We had a meeting and we end up, you know, we're supposed to be kind
00:38of like a quick whatever introduction. We end up sort of talking golf swing. I had my laptop. We
00:43looked at swings and talked golf swing for, I don't know, close to two hours.
00:48Man, how nervous were you like going to this meeting?
00:51I was really nervous going into it. But then once we started talking golf swing, it was just like
00:56that's sort of like my my space. Right. So I kind of like I fell into the zone with it and we were
01:03just like riffing off each other. So it's pretty cool. It was actually it was quite fun. So once
01:06like that initial nerves sort of like got shaken off, you know, you're in the flow of it. And then
01:12I I that segwayed into a second meeting. Yeah. Well, what you realize quickly, Chris, is that
01:22Tiger is a golf geek, right? And you're just like, well, OK, I can talk that I can do I can talk to
01:27this guy. He loves it. He loves it. Yeah. So what was the first thing at that time that you noticed
01:34with his golf swing that you felt like that that you would be able to help him with when you're just
01:41looking at where he's swinging at it in 2014. And then you talked about how you're looking back
01:46at old videos in 2000. Was he chasing to try to get back to more of how he used to swing the golf
01:52club at that time? I mean, I felt I feel like, you know, 2000 is maybe the best anybody's ever
02:00swung a golf club and definitely the best he's ever swung it for him. Right. Like I mean, it's just
02:07it's just so good. Right. So but his body was obviously not the same body. So so to me, in my
02:12mind, as a as sort of a rough kind of starting point, it was like, how do we get you to swing
02:16as close to that as possible? But in a way that your your current body can do so that my mind was
02:23like always the initial goal. And then obviously, you know, you get audibles thrown at you or you
02:27have to call audibles. Yeah. Curve balls thrown at you and things like that. What was what was his
02:31limitations at the time from his body standpoint? Could you could he move at all? Like
02:35we started working like I mean, it had surgery actually pretty recent, like the first meeting.
02:41I don't think he was he was hitting golf balls yet. I mean, look, it was he had had at that point,
02:47he had already had a lot of surgeries. Yeah. So there's a lot of limitations. You knew you're up
02:55against it to try to get him to swing as close to that at 2000. Well, and to me, when I say as close
03:00to that in 2000, I think, you know, my mind, it was more of like what his hands and clubs were doing
03:05and not clubs, hands and club was doing. And then how do you because that to me is like, you know,
03:12how he would shape the plane of it and there's a release pattern and things like that. And
03:18how could he move his body to sort of facilitate that in a way that wouldn't hurt his body going
03:26forward? Yeah. So what is that so much moving the his body and his spine, his pelvis, like it was in
03:322000. That's like, you know, probably like just not on the table. But but how do you move the club
03:37like as close to back of the day as possible, but in a way this body could do
03:41like as close to back of the day as possible. And hopefully
03:57back of the day. And the time he might last?", you know it was just a littleknown. And