Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL) promotes the Boater Freedom Act in Bay County, Florida.
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00:00The Senator from Bay County.
00:02I don't know whether when I announced the politicians, sometimes yes, sometimes no.
00:11I'm glad Jay got the thumbs up.
00:13We also have FWC Executive Director Roger Young.
00:17And then we have the Todd's here and you're going to hear from Jimmy Todd to host who's
00:22hosting us here today at Treasure Island Marina.
00:24So I want to thank them for that.
00:26So we're going to talk about obviously marine related issue today.
00:32But before I do that, I just want to wish the Florida Gators a good run today against
00:39Houston.
00:41Not everyone may want that in Northwest Florida, but most of most I think do when it becomes
00:45a for even my kids who are very big in the Florida state, you know, and we've asked them
00:51for many weeks if Florida makes it, who are you going to root for who you're gonna root
00:54for?
00:55And finally, they've admitted they're going to root for Florida to beat Houston.
00:58So you know, Gator Nation can rest assured that we have a united household in the state
01:02of Florida, at least in the governor's office.
01:04We all want to see see them bring home a national championship.
01:07And then late Friday, you know, we see all this stuff with these judges with what they're
01:15doing around the country thinking that they can run the federal government and the executive
01:20branch better than the elected president can do.
01:22So all the stuff that President Trump is implementing with executive power, almost
01:28all of that gets challenged immediately in the courts.
01:31And what do they do?
01:32They go find some judge who's going to say, oh, you can't do that.
01:35You can't send illegals back.
01:37You can't do all this.
01:38So that's not anything that we didn't know what happened.
01:41That's not something they and the administration didn't think would happen.
01:44That's just unfortunately par for the course.
01:47But we had on Friday afternoon, you know, we had one of these activist judges down in
01:52South Florida rule that one of the laws that we very carefully crafted working with the
01:57legislature to combat illegal immigration, that we can hold you accountable for illegally
02:03entering Florida, which we have used successfully, that somehow we're not allowed to do that.
02:09And that's an example of a judge trying to throw sand in the gears, trying to prevent
02:14us from doing what's right.
02:17We obviously are going to fight that.
02:18We're going to continue with with our strong efforts to combat illegal immigration.
02:22No state is doing more to work with the Trump administration to enforce federal immigration
02:28laws and to return illegals to their home country.
02:31That's the mandate.
02:32That's what we've got to do.
02:37So we anticipated this fully.
02:40We know that just what happens when you when you do with these things.
02:44But we were also very careful in how we approached it.
02:47We understand other states have tried things similar.
02:50We definitely did it a little bit different in a way that ultimately can withstand a fair
02:56minded jurist.
02:57But in this case, I think we had we had no chance to be able to be successful.
03:01So stay tuned on that.
03:03But we're in that fight.
03:04We're not looking back.
03:05We're not going to take the pedal off the gas.
03:07Now we're here in Panama City Beach because we have an opportunity to do something that
03:14really is a grassroots movement on voter freedom.
03:19And I'll talk about what we're looking to do and what Senator Trumbull is pushing in
03:23the Senate in a minute.
03:25But this is something that has grown out of people reporting to elected officials like
03:30Senator Trumbull, like me, about what needs to be done to make it better for boating and
03:36fishing in the state of Florida.
03:38Now, we have the top state in the country for boating and fishing anywhere, probably
03:45anywhere in the world, but certainly anywhere in the United States.
03:47And it's not even really close.
03:50Our recreational boating industry alone is thirty one point three billion dollars annually.
03:55And that's a 53 percent increase since 2018.
04:00You know, what happened when people started flooding down here and, you know, some of
04:04this is good.
04:05It can help the economy.
04:07And certainly boats never did better.
04:09I mean, these people couldn't make the boats fast enough because people would come come
04:13from north and they'd say, OK, you're in Florida.
04:16You got it.
04:17You got a boat.
04:18You got to fish.
04:19So we got to do this.
04:20And so they bought all these boats.
04:21And like these guys are making boats in Florida had never done better.
04:23You know, the problem is they didn't really know how to navigate with these boats because
04:27they hadn't done it before.
04:28And so we've kind of had some growing pains there.
04:31I think people see kind of some of the new newer newly minted captains and kind of getting
04:36their sea legs.
04:37But the reality is it's been a big, big boom.
04:40We are now home to over 7000 marine businesses, and that equates to over 100000 jobs across
04:48the state of Florida just for the boating industry in 2023.
04:54We surpassed nine hundred and twenty two thousand boat registrations statewide in the state
04:59of Florida.
05:00We are number one in marine expenditures and we have the most boats of any place in the
05:06country.
05:07We also have four million licensed anglers.
05:11And as I said, we're without peer when it comes to fishing.
05:14And look what we've done with Gulf Red Snapper, you know, 104 day, 105 days like, you know,
05:20we we took the bull by the horns on that one and we're delivering great opportunity.
05:24Incidentally, I'm asking the Department of Commerce, which oversees NOAA, to take the
05:32success that we've had with state managed Gulf Red Snapper and let the state of Florida
05:37manage Atlantic Red Snapper.
05:40You know how many days they gave in twenty four?
05:42They gave well, one or two, depending.
05:45I mean, like but like literally, you know, they'll do a day, they'll do two days.
05:49There's a lot of red snapper out there.
05:50This is bogus data, just like it was bogus in the Gulf.
05:53I don't think it's ever been healthier now as we've expanded the season.
05:58So we give us the opportunity to manage that.
06:01And I told the secretary of commerce, I was like, you know, we go out on the Atlantic
06:05Coast and announce this is going to be huge support for being able to have a an evidence
06:11based red snapper season where there's a lot of red snapper out there.
06:15So we're working on that for sure.
06:17We want to make sure that we're able to do that.
06:20We've done a lot of different things over the years to be able to to help this.
06:24I mean, we do the outdoor tax holiday over the summer for all these different supplies.
06:30It's been really, really fantastic.
06:32We also are proposing this year a marine fuel tax holiday over the summer.
06:38So no tax on marine fuel, which I know a lot of people who are boating would really like
06:43to see.
06:48So we're looking at what can we do given what's going on with how great this industry is,
06:57how great the recreational pursuits, the culture, everything that goes into it.
07:02And with this Boater Freedom Act, which Senator Trumbull is spearheading in the in the Senate,
07:07you also have Griff Griffiths doing it in the house.
07:11But I'll say some in a minute.
07:12The house, you know, really looks more intent to obstruct it than to actually pass it, even
07:17though our voters have been very clear to us that we want to see it pass.
07:21But this thing is, I think, something that was really important.
07:25One, it will establish the right to boat by preempting local governments from banning
07:30the sailor use of boats based on fuel sources.
07:33Now, this probably wouldn't happen in Bay County, but there may be some counties where
07:38they will say you will not be able to purchase a gas powered boat in the future.
07:42You can only do electric and all that.
07:44There's people that actually want to do that.
07:47That's not flying in the state of Florida.
07:49That's your choice, which type of boat you want to use or which type of boat you want
07:53to sell or which boat that you want to purchase.
07:56That is up to you.
07:57So we will ensure you can buy the vessel you want.
08:02And we will also maintain protections that we have that are common sense.
08:06I mean, we do have seagrass protection, manatee zones, wakespeeds.
08:09That's fine.
08:11That's good.
08:12But don't tell us what type of boats that we have to buy.
08:15The bill will also right or wrong that it's been an issue for far too long and will finally
08:20bring it to an end.
08:22Current law allows both state and also local law enforcement to pull a boater over when
08:28no probable cause or suspected violation has occurred, and they can conduct inspections
08:34without having even a pretext to do so.
08:37This can include personal property searches, sometimes leads to further law enforcement
08:42action beyond safety compliance.
08:45While laws previously passed have attempted to solve this, the problem persists.
08:50And our voters let us know that the problem persists.
08:54Therefore, as part of the Boater Freedom Act, we will end this practice by prohibiting the
08:58use of a safety inspection as probable cause to pull over a boater.
09:03You have to have real probable cause if you want to pull over a boater.
09:07And that's going to be the law in the state of Florida.
09:14And this is a very fair and balanced approach.
09:16And you absolutely have the ability, if somebody is doing something wrong, you absolutely have
09:21the ability to make sure that the law is enforced.
09:24The bill also directs FWC to work with tax collectors to proactively provide a Florida
09:30Freedom Boater Decal at registration.
09:34This decal will assure law enforcement that the boater has done the due diligence of inspecting
09:39and maintaining proper boater safety requirements.
09:43And so there's no need to mess with.
09:45If you see that, which I think is really, really good.
09:48And look, FWC does a great job.
09:50Our local partners do a great job in a variety of capacities.
09:56And you've had FWC, you've had locals be involved in things.
10:00I mean, we had kids polluting waterways, dumping full trash cans of trash off their boat.
10:07And you had folks there that worked for us that helped stop that.
10:11And that's the right thing to do.
10:13But by unlimiting unwarranted vessel inspections without probable cause, FWC officers can better
10:20allocate resources and time to cases where there is a clear need for intervention, protecting
10:26wildlife and ultimately doing the work that they do.
10:30And I think most people agree that's a more common sense approach.
10:33This will increase the strength of the relationships between officers and the boating community.
10:40The act also strikes an appropriate balance between ensuring compliance with boating laws
10:45and reducing unnecessary disruptions for law-abiding boaters, making enforcement more practical
10:51and effective.
10:52Finally, the bill will also invest in additional boat ramps, parking and marina programs through
10:58FWC that will ensure the public has access to the waters of our great state, all the
11:04way from Biscayne Bay to here, right on the newly named Gulf of America along the west
11:11coast of Florida.
11:18Now I mentioned that Senator Trumbull is spearheading this in the Senate.
11:22It's moving through.
11:23It's got a lot of bipartisan support.
11:26People understand this is not something that Senator Trumbull or I just kind of cooked
11:31up on our own or trying to foist through.
11:35This is something that's a response to boaters throughout Florida who have reported what
11:40they would like to see to be able to strengthen this great pastime and to help this really
11:47important part of our state's culture.
11:49And so that's why it's gotten support.
11:51That's why they're doing it now.
11:53The Florida House of Representatives, as has been true unfortunately for the last couple
11:58months, they seem to be more interested in obstructing the passage of this legislation.
12:05They seem to have taken this weird tack where they're coming in and they have this massive
12:10supermajority that they built off the work of many others, to be quite frank.
12:16And they come in and they're trying to undo a lot of the stuff that Jay and I and others
12:21worked for over many, many years without campaigning on any of this, without telling voters
12:28that this is what you want to do.
12:30But then you turn around and who are they doing the bidding for?
12:34Not you, but people like Morgan and Morgan.
12:38I don't want the state run by Morgan and Morgan.
12:41I want the state run by what the people voted for.
12:46And so you have this thing where they're trying to repeal progress.
12:53They never told the voters they would do this.
12:55And then they basically take a tack, well, if the voters are asking us to do something
13:00and we're leading on that, then they're just going to try to obstruct for the sake of obstruction.
13:05That's not what you voted for.
13:07You voted for people to continue the success of Florida and what we've been able to accomplish
13:13over these many years.
13:15And I think to waste this with these antics and refusing to actually do the people's work,
13:22that just doesn't make sense.
13:23I mean, just think about taxes.
13:25I was going out for many months because of listening to people like you talking about
13:29the need for property tax relief.
13:32People are getting killed on property taxes.
13:35What do they do?
13:36Because I'm doing property, so they got to do something else.
13:39They want to do tax cuts for Canadian tourists and for non-residents.
13:43Why would we ever be doing that?
13:46We should be doing property tax, but it's just because they got to be obstruction.
13:50It's just because they got to be different.
13:51In fact, they brought into the party a liberal Democrat from down in South Florida.
13:59She switches parties to be Republican, even though she's very, very liberal and opposed
14:04us on everything for six years.
14:07Very liberal, now in charge of a major committee, running all this liberal legislation, getting
14:13all this stuff in the budget.
14:16And I'm thinking to myself, is that what you voted for in Bay County, to turn the reins
14:20over to some liberal rep in Broward County?
14:23Nobody campaigned on that.
14:25That was not what you were doing.
14:27This is just another example.
14:29I would think that reps would be wanting to do something that the voter freedom is.
14:35Because it's not something I cooked up.
14:37It's not something Jay Trumbo cooked up.
14:39It's something that people have been asking for, really for many years.
14:43But certainly, in more recent times, this has been something that's been very important.
14:48We're listening to the folks, and we're delivering those results to them.
14:52So I want to commend Senator Trumbull and the other members of the Senate who've really
14:55worked hard to be able to move this forward.
14:59If it doesn't pass the House, it's only because of them taking an obstructionist bent, not
15:05because it doesn't have support from the vast majority of folks throughout the state of
15:10Florida, and even in that particular chamber.
15:13So let's get this done.
15:15I look forward to the Senate continuing to pursue this.
15:19I think this will make a real positive difference in the lives of Floridians, but particularly
15:25with respect to our voting community.
15:27So thank you, everybody.
15:28And now we'll hear from, first we'll hear from Jay, then we'll hear from our other speakers.
15:33Thank you so much, Governor.
15:39The Governor obviously loves Bay County because he took off in Tallahassee under a tornado
15:44warning.
15:45Thanks for putting yourself in peril to be with us today.
15:51You know, the Governor talked a whole lot about how we got to this point.
15:57And truly, Governor, the reason we are trying to pass a piece of legislation like this is
16:03because of people like you.
16:05My next-door neighbor was stopped three times for a safety inspection one day last summer.
16:11And so it truly is a grassroots thing.
16:14And we're saying that your constitutional rights don't just stop when you get onto a
16:19boat off the dock.
16:20They should continue.
16:21And you should have probable cause to be able to have somebody, to be able to be pulled
16:26over.
16:27And I do think it's important to make sure that there's a significant distinction between
16:31doing the right and breaking the law.
16:35And this does not stop law enforcement, whether local or FWC, from stopping you if you've
16:41broken the law.
16:42This just says that you can't have some random safety inspection occurring day in and day
16:47out, making sure, though, that we're keeping folks safe.
16:54There's another portion of this bill, Senate Bill 1388, and I'm thankful that it is moving
16:57through the process.
16:58It's in its second committee this week.
17:01And I'm thankful that we have gotten bipartisan support in the Senate.
17:06And I know that Representative Griffiths is working hard to try to get the bill up
17:09in the House.
17:11But there's this other portion of the bill that the governor talked about that says,
17:16no, we're not going to say which boats you can and can't have.
17:19They can be propelled by one type of gas, or they can be propelled by electric or whatever.
17:29It's your choice to make those decisions.
17:31And we're not going to preempt the voters or Floridians from being able to make those
17:35choices like other states have implemented.
17:38And so I'm incredibly encouraged that we continue to push the envelope on making Florida
17:43the freest state in the country.
17:47And it starts with policies like this.
17:49And so, Governor, I thank you for your support on this.
17:51I'm excited to get this across the finish line in the Senate.
17:54And to the Todds, thank you for hosting us.
17:56I know the weather's not phenomenal today, so we're not probably going to take any of
18:00these boats out.
18:01But it's great to be able to see everybody and see so much support for what we're trying
18:07to accomplish and really know that we're giving families more autonomy and the ability to
18:15enjoy the great resources that we have in Florida.
18:17So thank you, sir.
18:18All right.
18:19Roger.
18:20Thank you, Governor Sanchez.
18:26It's great to be here in Panama City today.
18:28What an outstanding day.
18:29It's always great to be in this community.
18:30Such a great boating and fishing community.
18:33And thanks to the Todds and the Treasure Island Marina for hosting us.
18:35What a great facility this is to help boaters get out on the water.
18:38And on behalf of the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission, I want to thank you,
18:42Governor, for your continued leadership in supporting Florida's boating and angling communities
18:46just like this one.
18:47Florida is the boating capital of the world, and at FWC, we're committed to ensuring our
18:52waterways are safe, accessible, and responsibly enjoyed.
18:56The Boater Freedom Act reflects a balanced approach protecting public safety and conservation
19:01while also representing the rights of responsible boaters.
19:04This act will eliminate random safety checks and ensure that the day on the water can be
19:09enjoyed by all law-abiding citizens and boaters.
19:15By creating a streamlined inspection decal program, eliminating random stops, this legislation
19:20allows officers to focus resources where they're needed most.
19:24On serious violations and conservation efforts that keep our waters and our resources healthy.
19:30FWC stands in support and supports these efforts, and we look forward to working with Governor
19:34DeSantis, Senator Trumbull, and Representative Griffiths on implementing the Boater Freedom
19:39Act to help ensure that Florida remains the best place in the world to boat, fish, and
19:44enjoy the outdoors.
19:45Thank you, Governor.
19:46Appreciate it.
19:47Let's see.
19:59First of all, we're very honored to have the governor here today, 46th governor, state
20:05of Florida, our great state, and we're honored to have Senator Jay Trumbull here today, and
20:12we're honored to have Roger, our new administrator, director of the FWC, and we are excited to
20:21have our locals, Claire Peace, thank you for being here, Chuck Perdue, and lots of you
20:27people that I didn't call your name, but we really appreciate you being here.
20:32The media, we appreciate you covering the event, and Lisa and Anna, our owners, Treasure
20:39Island Marina, and every time we get hit, and every time we have a tornado or a hurricane,
20:46they say, build it back, and so that's what we've done here with this new facility.
20:53I'm Jimmy Todd, and I'm the president and CEO of Treasure Island Marina, and I want
21:00to extend a strong support for the upcoming Boater Freedom Act making its way through
21:07the Florida legislature, and this is a meaningful and very much needed step for the boating
21:14community and local businesses like ours that depend on fair, consistent access to our waters.
21:24I'd also like to acknowledge and thank Senator Jay Trumbull for his leadership in authoring
21:30this bill and carrying forward what I understand are your goals for protecting Floridians'
21:38rights and preserving access to our marine heritage.
21:43We stand with you in ensuring Florida remains a place where responsible boating is supported,
21:49not restricted.
21:51Please don't hesitate to reach out if we can assist in furthering these efforts on the
21:59local level.
22:00Thank you very much for being here.
22:03Well, I think this will be really, really good.
22:10This is sound legislation, very well thought out, and as Senator Trumbull said, obviously
22:15whatever the rules of the road are, you have the ability as a law enforcement to enforce
22:20that.
22:21What this is preventing is to just go up to a boat because you feel like it and conduct
22:25a quote safety inspection without there being a basis to do so in the first place.
22:30I think that will cause much better relations between everybody and it's consistent with
22:36how we typically conduct law enforcement operations where you do have the requirement to have
22:42a basis, a probable cause, before you stop somebody or conduct any type of a search.
22:48So it's sound.
22:49I think it's long overdue, but I really thank everybody who spoke up for really a long time.
22:55I mean, certainly the last couple years, people have been talking about, hey, we'd love to
22:59see this.
23:00So this is really answering the call from a lot of folks who know what they're talking
23:04about.
23:05So I thank you for doing this for Senator Trumbull, and we'll see whether it makes it
23:10all the way through the process.
23:11I'm confident that the Florida Senate is going to pass this, and that'll be a big win for
23:16Florida.
23:17Okay, do we have any questions back there?
23:18Yes.
23:20Like you mentioned, we are number one in voting, as well as a strong fishing industry here
23:26in the state.
23:27What effects, if any, has your office identified when it comes to possible bolstering up of
23:32our fishing industry with new tariffs being introduced?
23:36So, in terms of recreational fishing, I'm not sure that that's going to be necessarily
23:42as direct.
23:43The issue is more with that is the federal government is restricting the ability of our
23:50anglers to utilize the resources that are here in the Atlantic.
23:54In the Gulf, when they gave us the management of the Gulf, what do you have?
23:59You have the largest gulf red snapper season that we've ever had under state management
24:04because we let on it, and we insisted that we get it right, and that we not take outdated
24:09data and act like there aren't fish in the sea.
24:12There's fish in the sea.
24:13They're there.
24:14And so, we were able to do that.
24:15I think we need to do the same thing on Atlantic, but that would be the biggest thing.
24:19If they gave us the ability to manage the Atlantic red snapper season, that would be
24:25the biggest boon to the boating and fishing community in the state of Florida that we
24:30could have right now.
24:32If they continue to restrict, that's really what chokes off the opportunities more than
24:37anything else.
24:38So, I think the administration is supportive of it.
24:42I have mentioned it to the president, but I've definitely mentioned it also to the secretary
24:47of the commerce, and I know they're still filling out NOAA, and they're doing still
24:50all that.
24:51There's a lot of irons in the fire, but returning this to state management would be a home run,
24:56and trust me, we will not simply say one day.
24:59That's not going to work.
25:00So everybody on the Atlantic coast, I mean, you guys are lucky over here.
25:04You have much better options with respect to the Gulf red snapper, but Atlantic, we've
25:09got to do better, and that's just the federal government, and it has long predated the current
25:14administration just having outdated data, and quite frankly, the bureaucracy being more
25:20ideological and purpose-driven rather than evidence-based.
25:24So now we've already shown it can be done in the Gulf, and we're going to show it can
25:28be done in the Atlantic, and that will be a huge boon for Florida anglers.
25:32Do you have anything that you ended up leaving out of the bill for this version?
25:40No, this is good legislation, and you know, like all these things, there's ideas, and
25:45then you've got to render those ideas into legislative text, and there's always give
25:50and take with what a legislator may want in each house, and then what I'd be willing to
25:55sign, but basically, I think this is good, and it's really been a team effort, and so
26:00we look forward to coming back to Bay County to be able to sign this into law.
26:05Maybe we'll get that on the calendar and hopefully get it done.
26:13Final thing I'll just say before I take off is one of the things I've been involved with,
26:20so the state of Florida, our legislature has passed resolutions for a balanced budget amendment
26:27to the U.S. Constitution, and we have now 27 states that have done that.
26:33If you get 34, then it can be submitted for ratification, and you need three-quarters
26:38of the states to ratify, but you look at what's going on in Washington, you look at these
26:43different budgets, like no one wants to stop spending all this money, and I just wonder
26:49can that go on indefinitely?
26:51You don't have to wonder.
26:52I think we know that that can't go on indefinitely.
26:55The only thing I think that will be effective to get us in fiscal shape over an extended
27:01period of time is to have a requirement in the Constitution that basically prohibits
27:07politicians from bankrupting the country, because I think that they're willing to do
27:11that if they can.
27:13Other states are considering this.
27:14I was just up visiting and talking to legislators in Idaho, Montana.
27:18I know South Carolina, there's a bunch that are doing it, but if you look at what's ... I
27:23don't really see a change in trajectory from what Congress is discussing, and I think the
27:28reality is is in Florida, we have a balanced budget requirement.
27:31Now we run big surpluses.
27:34We've paid off 41% of our state's total debt over a 180-year period.
27:38It was accumulated.
27:39We've done a lot of good stuff on our own, but having that balanced budget requirement
27:44makes it clear that you can't just spend to spend, and you got to make ends meet, and
27:50they're not willing to do that in Washington.
27:52If you look at the debt that's been accumulated over the last 25 years, unfortunately it has
27:58been both parties.
27:59It's not like it's all one party or the other, and I'm just convinced that regardless of
28:03who's in, you're not going to get this right over the long term unless you have some constitutional
28:09restraints on their ability to spend and borrow indefinitely.
28:15It's one thing when you have World War II or some of these things where you have these
28:18really true emergency situations, but now it's just as a matter of course that you're
28:24$2 trillion annually in the hole, and I don't care how much you tax people, and I'm for
28:31lower taxes, but even when they try to raise taxes, people change their behavior.
28:36You end up getting about the same amount of revenue as a percentage of GDP under various
28:41different tax rates, and so that should tell you it's really the spending that needs to
28:46be moderated and reduced, and until they're doing that, I think that we're always going
28:52to have different possibilities, and people say, well, how long can this go?
28:56How come we haven't had a major crisis by now, and the answer is I don't think anybody
29:00really knows, but I think we do know there will be a point at which we will have some
29:04really significant consequences, so that's something that Florida's led on, both on balanced
29:09budget that the legislature certified for debate for amending the federal constitution
29:16and term limits for members of Congress, quite frankly.
29:20You do need to term limit Congress.
29:22We'd be much better if we did that.
29:24Some of these people have been there.
29:26You go back to the 80s and watch footage from the House, and who's there?
29:30Pelosi was there, and she's still there now.
29:34It's unbelievable, and then for some reason, members of Congress, they all should be hedge
29:41fund managers because they make so much money in the market with these very curiously timed
29:47stock trades and putting money here and there, and unfortunately, that's on both parties,
29:52too, and you're just thinking about it like, man, what is going on up there?
29:58Balanced budget requirement, term limits, Florida's led on both of those.
30:02Further along on the balanced budget amendment, a lot of states have already approved that,
30:07and you need a certain threshold to trigger for it to be amended to the constitution,
30:12but term limits, I haven't found very many issues where you can get people, Republican,
30:18Democrat, male, female, black, white, it doesn't matter.
30:21People get that term limits would be a positive reform for members of Congress, so I leave
30:27you with those two things because I do think we're at a situation where you do need to
30:33have some constitutional reforms to be able to rein in what's going on in Washington.
30:39I don't think left to their own devices, you're going to see major changes out of the Congress,
30:44at least we haven't seen it so far in 2025, and I think a lot of people are very, very
30:48disappointed.
30:49Okay, well, we've got a big game tonight.
30:52All the Gator fans out there in Gator Nation, hopefully they bring it home.
30:55Thanks everybody.