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  • 4/3/2025
HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins visit an elementary school in Alexandria, Virginia, to highlight efforts to improve nutrition to combat obesity and chronic disease.

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00:00Good to see y'all, my partner, he's crying.
00:06Hi everybody, great to be here. I know this is our first event together,
00:11although we have been in constant conversation on the importance of making America healthy again.
00:17Secretary Kennedy will talk a little bit about that too, but just wanted to run through a couple of quick stats,
00:23then you can add on and then we'll open it up for questions.
00:26But again, what a joy to be here at the Ferdinand T. Day School.
00:30We've met with their leaders, we've met with the incredible people who are running their school nutrition programs.
00:35We actually got to meet with the kids, as you can hear, that are right behind you.
00:39And it's just been a really, really great day here in Virginia.
00:43As you all know, approximately 1 in 5 kiddos and 2 in 5 adults in the United States currently have obesity.
00:5240% of school-age children and adolescents in the U.S. have at least one chronic health condition.
00:5840% of our school-age kids and adolescents have at least one chronic health condition.
01:05Pre-diabetes now affects 1 in 3 children aged 12 to 19.
01:10This chronic disease crisis is the greatest contributor to the United States health care costs,
01:16comprising 90% of our expenditures, according to the CDC.
01:21Very little research so far, this is about to change,
01:25very little research goes to understanding the root cause of disease,
01:28specifically in the relation between food and chronic disease.
01:3380% of medical schools to this day, 80% do not require their students in medical school to take a nutrition class.
01:40Of course, I am the Secretary of Agriculture.
01:43My focus are our farmers and our ranchers.
01:46I believe so sincerely that our farmers are a massive part of the solution of what I just outlined.
01:52Our farmers, ranchers, and producers dedicate their lives to growing the safest, most abundant food supply in the world,
01:59and now we need to make sure that our kiddos, especially in programs like this, have the opportunity to have access to that food.
02:06The final thing I'll say is, again, kudos to the incredible team at this school.
02:11I mean, look at the beautiful setup behind us.
02:13There's just so much I think we can do together when we're working across the federal government,
02:18with our state governors, with our local officials, and with the leaders in our schools.
02:22Thank you all.
02:24This is really a historic collaboration.
02:26It's the first time that HHS has actively collaborated with USDA to change the quality of nutrition to America's school children.
02:37And I want to thank Governor Youngton, who's not here today, for his leadership in the MAHA agenda.
02:45I was in Louisa County about two weeks ago and went to a school,
02:51and they've pioneered the bans of cell phones in school, which is also enforced in this school.
02:57And violence in that school decreased 100 percent.
03:02And we've seen the same thing across the country with the food exchange.
03:06Emotional behavior, mental illness also declines, but more than anything, academic performance improves dramatically.
03:16And we heard testimony from some of the teachers and administrators in this school
03:22about the direct correlation between providing healthy foods to these children,
03:29nutritious foods, other than the food-like substances that were once ubiquitous in all of our schools.
03:38Give them real food, whole food, farm-fresh food,
03:42and it has a dramatic impact on academic performance and on socialization among the students.
03:50As Secretary Raul said, we have a chronic disease crisis in our country.
03:57When my uncle was president, 3 percent of American kids had chronic disease.
04:01Today, it's 60 percent.
04:03When my uncle was president, I was a 10-year-old boy.
04:07We spend zero on chronic disease in this country.
04:10Today, we spend $1.3 trillion a year.
04:13And our kids, the sickest kids in the world, 38 percent of our children are diabetic or pre-diabetic.
04:19That was unknown when I was a kid.
04:23Seventy-four percent of our kids cannot qualify for military service,
04:27so this is a national security issue as well.
04:31We know a lot about many things, but we know very, very little about the link,
04:37about the exposures that are causing the chronic disease epidemic.
04:41And right now, we are in the middle of a major reorganization and a redirectorship
04:48so that we will be studying and learning what is causing the chronic disease epidemic.
04:54And then FDA and CDC and USDA are going to do their jobs to eliminate their exposures.
05:02The last thing I'd say is that right now, Governor Young has to take this extraordinary step
05:09of banning food diets in the schools, seven food diets.
05:14But we are encouraging governors from all over the country to apply for SNAP waivers
05:21that will allow the SNAP program, the food stamp program, to exclude soda drinks
05:28and some other substances that we know are dangerous to our children.
05:32We believe in choice.
05:34Every American who wants to eat a donut ought to be able to eat it or drink a Coke.
05:39But the federal taxpayers should not be paying the boys and our children.
05:43And we're going to end that, and we're going to end it very quickly.
05:47Great. We'll take a couple questions before we wrap up. Yes, ma'am.
05:51Can the FDA ensure food safety now that so many jobs have been cut?
05:55And for you, Secretary Rawlings, you've spoken about better nutrition for children.
05:59How can schools—there were recently millions of dollars in cuts in a cooperative program
06:04between local farms and schools.
06:06Is that money coming back? Is something similar coming back?
06:09Go ahead.
06:11In terms of FDA's capacity, the cuts in all of our agencies are not affecting science,
06:17so the science jobs aren't preserved.
06:20The frontline enforcement jobs and health delivery jobs are preserved.
06:25HHS was a bloated agency, and it was not doing its job.
06:33During the past four years, we saw a 38 percent rise in its budget,
06:38and health care continued to decline.
06:40So we're reorganizing HHS so it can do its intended job, which is to make America healthier.
06:47Yeah, and I appreciate the question on the food programs.
06:51There's been a lot of confusion about what has been cut.
06:54The first thing I'll say is that we are realigning, as all of our agencies are,
06:58the USDA, we're realigning the agency around what works well, what's important.
07:02Almost 80 percent of the USDA budget of $280 billion, I think,
07:06is actually in the food and nutrition program space.
07:09It's actually not even in the farming and ranching space.
07:13And so as we look at that, and under the last four years, under President Biden,
07:18it was almost a 40 percent increase, tracking close to where HHS expanded as well.
07:23So what we are pulling back now is the COVID-era programs that were affirmed
07:29under the last administration that were always meant to come back.
07:33And a lot of the money that we're pulling back is money that is – all of it, actually –
07:38has not been spent or committed.
07:40It is future money, again, under COVID-era programs.
07:43Every child in America that is hungry will have good food to feed them.
07:48And if they don't, then we will immediately realign to ensure that they do.
07:52And the other thing I'd like to say is that the programs like today that are so inspiring
07:57and watching these incredible kids, a lot of them from food-challenged families,
08:02that this is what we should be supporting at USDA.
08:06This is why we're realigning, so that the status quo that has been bloated by 40 percent
08:11in the last four years, that that's not going to work anymore.
08:14That instead we need to realign around leaders like are part of this school
08:18that have completely rethought this and have done such an amazing job
08:21in moving farm-fresh produce as much as is possible into the schools
08:26and into these kids' snacks and lunches.
08:29Sir, I know you said that you want to talk about kids' health.
08:32The CDC program that monitors lead surveillance for kids was cut.
08:36Can you explain the rationale for cutting a program like that
08:39and why that's not an essential service?
08:42There were some programs that were cut that are being reinstated,
08:46and I believe that that's one of them.
08:48Interesting. Do you know why it was cut to begin with?
08:51All of these programs, all of the CDC, NIH, and CDC were not doing their jobs,
09:01and there was tremendous redundancy.
09:03For example, we had over 100 communications departments.
09:08We have 40 procurement departments.
09:10We had dozens of IT departments and dozens of HR departments.
09:15Most of the cuts are to those administrative sections,
09:19which are now consolidating or eliminating redundancies.
09:23We're streamlining the agencies.
09:25We're going to make it work for public health, make it work for the American people.
09:30In the course of that, there were a number of instances where studies
09:34that should not have been cut were cut and reinstated them.
09:38Personnel that should not have been cut were cut or reinstated them,
09:42and that was always the plan.
09:45Part of the doge, we talked about this from the beginning,
09:49is we're going to do 80% cuts, but 20% of those are going to have to be reinstalled
09:55because we'll make mistakes.
09:57One of the things that President Trump has said is that if we make mistakes,
10:02we're going to admit it, and we're going to remedy it.
10:05That's one of the mistakes.
10:07Secretary Rallings, has the administration outlined any sort of bailout plans
10:11for farmers and wider deterrents?
10:13Do you want to see the CCC fund replenished?
10:15Do you feel like there's urgency to that?
10:17Are you communicating that to congressional leaders?
10:19Well, the first and most important thing about the tariff announcement yesterday
10:23is the president is effectuating his vision alongside his cabinet,
10:27who's there to deploy on realigning the American economy about what works
10:31for all Americans and bringing prosperity back to every corner of this country.
10:35There's no doubt, and as we saw in the last Trump administration under Sonny Perdue,
10:40who was the Secretary of Agriculture then, that there were a good number of our farmers
10:45and ranchers, especially in our row crops, that were at least immediately felt
10:51some economic consequence of those tariff decisions.
10:54As a result, the USDA then set up a program that sent money out to those farmers
11:00once they had proved that they had some economic consequences.
11:04So as of today, we don't know what those consequences will look like.
11:08In fact, it may be months before we really know, especially in the row crops.
11:12They are all being planted right now. This is planting season.
11:15We probably won't know until the summer or even early fall.
11:18Having said all of that, the answer is yes.
11:21We are setting up the infrastructure that if, in fact, we have some economic consequences
11:26in the short term to our farmers and perhaps our ranchers,
11:29that we will have programs in place to solve the problem.
11:32You guys have both been really, really critical of ultra-processed foods,
11:35but as you're aware, much of what is served as the tens of billions of dollars
11:39we spend on school food programs is considered ultra-processed.
11:42You've praised what the states are doing.
11:44Are there any plans to update federal rules, or what are you looking at federally
11:48to try to tackle additives, dyes, processing in these meal programs?
11:52We are in the middle right now of very, very energetically revising the nutrition guidelines.
12:01The nutrition guidelines that were worked out during the Biden administration
12:05and that were supposed to be implemented on January 20th,
12:09there's a 453-page document that looked like it was in order for the processing industry.
12:15And we are going to come up with a document that is simple
12:20and lets people know with great clarity what kind of foods their children need to eat,
12:27what kind of foods they can eat, and what's good for them, what's good nutrition.
12:31And we are collaborating with each other to make sure we get that out as quickly as possible.
12:37The other piece of that I'd like to say is that the idea of our founders' constitutional vision
12:43of the states being the laboratories of democracy, of real innovation happening there,
12:48that the federal government doesn't have the answer, nor should it, to every question,
12:52begs the larger policy discussion that we're already having with our governors across the country,
12:58both blue and red states.
13:00I am constantly in contact with several of the Democratic governors
13:04who really want to take a lead on this and have a great relationship with them.
13:07Of course, Governor Yunkin and his Ag Secretary is in the back, Matt Lohr.
13:11I mean, they have been wonderful.
13:12You were just with Governor Morrissey in West Virginia just a couple of days ago.
13:16So I think that the way we should all be thinking about this is as a partnership
13:20between the federal government, the states as the laboratories of innovation,
13:23local leaders, and then our school leaders.
13:26And I think once you see that, and I've seen this firsthand over many years,
13:29the states begin to compete with one another.
13:32And I think that the result of that will be, alongside us with the dietary guidelines
13:37and what we're doing at the federal level through both of our agencies,
13:40I think you'll see a new day in terms of how we think about nutrition and programs
13:45and how we move that out into the country.
13:47Thank you, guys.
13:48We've got to go.
13:50Thank you so much.
13:52They are subject to the tariffs.
13:57As far as I know, we're still working through all of the details.
14:01But I think as the numbers have come down on eggs,
14:04the bottom line is it doesn't become as important.
14:07Well, it draws out the people who are writing the guidelines for conflicts of interest.
14:11And the panel that's writing it will have no conflicts of interest.
14:15Are they writing it now?
14:16Yes.
14:17You kept the entire LIHEAP team.

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