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00:00This program is brought to you by DAREGA KAITON NEN, the book that changed the world in two days.
00:16Today's guest is Mr. Nagaya Yotsume from Niigata, Niigata City.
00:24Mr. Nagaya.
00:25It's just a snack.
00:27I can't find a single book.
00:29It's a new snack.
00:30It's starting to disappear.
00:32New snack.
00:33Is it a book if you translate it?
00:35No, it's not.
00:36I thought it would be nice to have a drink at an old bookstore, so I started.
00:41I was drunk every day for two days, and I lost my memory.
00:45From the middle of the show, the audience and the background were crushed.
00:49It's like a guest entering a counter.
00:52You're not a good host.
00:54I'm sick, I'm poor, and I don't make much money, so I want to quit soon.
01:01That's what I thought.
01:03That's what I thought.
01:04It's the best.
01:05I've heard so much, and it looks great.
01:10It's interesting.
01:11That's how it is.
01:12This week's guest is here.
01:14Buddy.
01:15New guest.
01:16Buddy, right?
01:18What's a new guest?
01:20Does anyone have a new guest?
01:22The author is a researcher of girl manga.
01:26He analyzes the bodies of various fictional characters at various angles.
01:33Since when did the word, buddy, come to be?
01:38Keiji is still a buddy.
01:42Kyohei Shibata and Hiroshi Tachi.
01:45They're all buddies.
01:47I don't want people to think I'm from that generation.
01:49So, I'm a partner.
01:51So, a partner could be a person who has a strong desire to be a buddy.
01:55Is that so?
01:57Let's ask him about that.
02:01I'm Tomiyama. Nice to meet you.
02:03Nice to meet you, too.
02:05You don't look like a buddy.
02:09You don't look like a buddy.
02:11You look like you're going to do it alone.
02:12You look like you're going to do it alone.
02:14Tomiyama, what do you do?
02:16I'm a freelance writer and a researcher of manga.
02:22I'm a professor of manga at a university.
02:29Are you a professor?
02:30Yes, I'm a professor.
02:32That's great. What do you teach?
02:36There are many students who want to do creative activities.
02:39Some students want to write novels or manga.
02:41Some students want to be the author of a manga.
02:45First of all, I teach them how to write a story.
02:54Is there a connection between manga and being a buddy?
02:58In the dictionary, a buddy is a friend or a partner.
03:01I see.
03:03That's the only meaning.
03:05But people who like to be a buddy
03:08have a special image of a man called bromance.
03:12I learned that recently.
03:14It's a little different from BL.
03:17Wait a minute.
03:18Does the word buddy mean a detective in the first place?
03:23I think so.
03:25However, if you go back to the old days,
03:28it starts with the story of two entertainers doing strange things.
03:33Our group?
03:36You're talking nonsense.
03:38Our group?
03:40From the 1930s to the 1960s,
03:44a lot of buddy movies became popular in the American movie industry.
03:49Movie?
03:50At first, it was a movie.
03:52Laurel & Hardy and Heaven.
03:54The movie was released in 1939.
03:57Is that the origin of the word buddy?
03:59It's not a detective, is it?
04:00No, it's not.
04:01It's more like an entertainer.
04:03Two people doing strange things.
04:07It's like a drama.
04:09That's what it means.
04:13Did you start to be called a buddy from that time?
04:16It's like a buddy movie.
04:20There's a mission you have to accomplish.
04:23But it's a messy combination.
04:25There's always a lot of trouble.
04:28But I managed to do it.
04:30It didn't work out.
04:32The comedy duo does a lot of things to make the audience laugh.
04:39Why was it 2?
04:41Can't it be 3?
04:43Oh, I see.
04:44In Japan, there's a group of three.
04:483 is fine, but 2 is easy to see.
04:51That's why it's called a buddy.
04:53I think it's easy to make a scene.
04:56Make it a two-person group and make it a messy combination.
05:00It's like the opposite of your personality.
05:03I see.
05:04If it's 3, it's a little more technical to shoot.
05:09It's difficult.
05:10What kind of character will the third person be?
05:12You have to think about the character.
05:14Why did you get the image that the police are buddies in Japan?
05:20But it's not the same in the world.
05:22That's right.
05:23Even overseas, after the comedy duo did a buddy movie,
05:28the story of the police coming out was a big hit.
05:35I think it's natural that it was introduced to Japan.
05:40I see.
05:42Are there any types of buddies?
05:44Oh, there are.
05:46Are men and women buddies?
05:48Men and women buddies are very popular now.
05:50Galileo?
05:52Of course.
05:54I think it's more fun not to fall in love.
05:57There's no love in it.
06:01Galileo is a little bit.
06:05It's a little bit.
06:07Ikiko Tsutsumi is really good at this.
06:09In the end, it's the same with the continuation.
06:12Specs, tricks, everything is a buddy.
06:16It's a very controlled work so as not to fall in love.
06:21Ikebukuro West Gate Park is a buddy of Makoto and King.
06:26Maybe.
06:27There may be a theory that Tsutsumi is the strongest.
06:30But in the book, there is a lot of explanation about the main black.
06:35That's exactly the same.
06:37That's right.
06:38It is well known as a buddy.
06:40There is a very interesting feature as a buddy.
06:45That is, a strange car comes out.
06:49I see.
06:51There is a principle that the two protagonists are put in a strange car as part of the buddy.
07:00Because they are in a strange car, people look at them first.
07:04In a sense, it's a prejudice from the world.
07:07It's not normal to have a strange car or an old car.
07:10But the two buddies basically don't care about it.
07:14They drive very leisurely.
07:18That's why it's more important to have a buddy next to you than the eyes of the world.
07:26It doesn't matter what people say.
07:29One of the tools that makes it very easy to understand is the prejudice.
07:34That's why you were in a strange car unintentionally.
07:38You were in a car that is said to be the smallest in the world.
07:41You were not in that car.
07:42I was alone.
07:43You were in that car.
07:44I was in that car and a buddy.
07:45You were seen by others.
07:46I painted it gold.
07:47It doesn't matter.
07:48It's a strange car.
07:49You were in a strange car unintentionally.
07:52Is Back to the Future also like that?
07:54That's right.
07:55I see.
07:56Why is it necessary to be a DeLorean?
07:59Certainly.
08:00Those two are buddies.
08:01That's right.
08:02Doctor.
08:03If you dig it up, it's a mess.
08:05Is there a work that Tomiyama is aiming for?
08:10It's disgusting to say I'm aiming for it.
08:14There is a car that sells melon bread called Melonpango.
08:18Do you know that car?
08:20Is that the car of Ayano?
08:21Yes.
08:22That car.
08:23That car.
08:24Hoshino Gen.
08:25That car.
08:26TBS.
08:27M404.
08:29I wanted to say that at first.
08:31I wanted to say that more than my partner.
08:34I thought it was the most modern car.
08:37That car was very popular.
08:39That car was very popular.
08:40There was such a car in front of TBS.
08:43It was not a police car to patrol the city.
08:46It was a car for selling melon bread.
08:50I was wondering why I had to ride such a car.
08:53There was a scene where I went around the city.
08:55For those who know the principle of the sense of smell of body goods.
08:59I thought it was amazing.
09:03I'm a little embarrassed if I'm a writer.
09:06That's right.
09:07I'm a little embarrassed if I'm found by Tomiyama.
09:10That's right.
09:11That's right.
09:12That's interesting.
09:14I'm glad.
09:15There are also entertainers.
09:17Do entertainers come in?
09:19In this book, I try to see the relationship of entertainers as a kind of body relationship.
09:27Among them, I picked up the two of Nishikigoi.
09:31Nishikigoi.
09:32But I...
09:33That's right.
09:35That's like a nursing home.
09:37I don't feel romance at all.
09:41Grandfather's bromance.
09:43It's like going to M-1 while there are ups and downs.
09:48Takashi looks at Masanori very gently.
09:53I feel like I'm hitting my head when I call him.
10:00I think the two of them have a strong sense of body.
10:09I think so, too.
10:11I think so, too.
10:14Don't you think so, Yuji?
10:16I'm Yuji.
10:19The word bromance is very popular now.
10:23For example, Mayurica in the entertainment world.
10:26It's a childhood friend.
10:27Bromance is terrible.
10:28When I see it from a girl's point of view.
10:31I've been with him since kindergarten and elementary school.
10:33I'm a childhood friend.
10:36I think that's possible.
10:39The two of them are a little older.
10:42They've been dating since kindergarten.
10:44They've been dating since kindergarten.
10:49They've been dating since kindergarten.
10:53It's like a detective.
10:55That's right.
10:57It's like a detective.
10:59There are things that have to be solved.
11:02They have to work together.
11:05They can't leave each other.
11:07They don't have to care about whether they like each other or not.
11:09They have to be together.
11:11There's a mission in front of them.
11:13When the time comes, they have to trust each other.
11:16They have to do things together.
11:20That's a buddy.
11:22I read a lot about them on Wikipedia.
11:26They have a lot of things.
11:28They're together.
11:30They have each other's backs.
11:32It's like a detective.
11:34It's like this.
11:36It's like this.
11:38I'm going to protect you from your seniors.
11:42I'm going to protect you from the world.
11:45It's like that.
11:47They're not childhood friends, but they're doing it.
11:50On the other hand, they're doing it.
11:52They have a lot of things.
11:55We're a buddy.
11:57From my point of view, it's like Downtown.
12:00I think it's stronger from childhood friends.
12:03It doesn't have to be that way.
12:05Of course, childhood friends and siblings have their own good points.
12:10But when I see people who have become buddies after they've grown up,
12:13I feel good.
12:15I feel good when I see us.
12:17I feel good.
12:23I don't understand this.
12:25Is this a buddy?
12:27Ah!
12:29That's right.
12:30Walser P38.
12:31I see.
12:33Dimension and Magnum 44 are completely buddies.
12:37And Zantetsuken.
12:39Goemon and Zantetsuken.
12:41In the book,
12:43Goemon stole Zantetsuken.
12:46He thought he was going to die.
12:49He's really depressed.
12:51If it's just a thing,
12:53he can make it again or buy it again.
12:55But he thinks he's going to die.
12:57The reason is that
12:59he has a sense of companionship that he can call a buddy.
13:04If you read it like that,
13:06I think it's interesting.
13:10Is this a rival relationship?
13:12Yes.
13:13It's called a rival buddy.
13:17Of course, it's a rival, so it's basically hostile to the other person.
13:22But he observes the other person in detail.
13:27Like Rukawa and Sakuragi.
13:29That's exactly right.
13:31He observes the other person in detail,
13:34so he knows the other person better than anyone else.
13:39You might think it's a bad relationship,
13:42but it's more like a buddy.
13:47I see.
13:48Is Battery a buddy?
13:52I think so.
13:54What about Ohtani and Ippei?
13:57I think it's a sad buddy.
14:00Until that incident happened, he thought it was a buddy.
14:03I see.
14:04After Ippei's incident,
14:06the relationship with his buddy was resolved,
14:08and Ohtani became alone.
14:11I thought he was lonely and depressed,
14:14but he had a decopy.
14:16It's not Mamiko. It's a decopy.
14:18He's married.
14:21By the way, what about Puffy?
14:25It's in the book.
14:26Oh, it's in the book.
14:27Asagaya and Puffy are almost the same.
14:29Asagaya and Puffy?
14:30That's weird.
14:32That's a very special buddy.
14:34They're not sisters.
14:36I have two favorite female buddies.
14:40Female buddies.
14:41I met Puffy and Asagaya at work,
14:45and we got along very well.
14:47I don't mind Puffy sitting next to me when I'm moving.
14:52The more I hear such an episode,
14:54the more I think she's a very nice female buddy
14:57who has a good teacher.
15:01What about Kano sisters?
15:03I feel like Mika is doing her best.
15:06But in the sense that Mika is doing Kyoko's selfishness,
15:13I feel like they're leaning on each other a little more.
15:18If we could know that,
15:20I might think she's a buddy.
15:23I have the image that Kyoko is the only one who has a man.
15:26Puffy is the best female buddy as a musician.
15:31What about Otoko?
15:32What I've been asked a lot lately is,
15:34how about Beez?
15:37I think they're both buddies.
15:39But I don't see much relationship.
15:41That's right.
15:42I'd like to know more about them.
15:45They sing with their backs together.
15:48That happens sometimes.
15:51When you think about it,
15:53you can see their backs together.
15:55That's one of the things about being a buddy.
15:57That's right.
15:58It's easy to imagine.
15:59They both have weaknesses,
16:01but they have someone to lean on, so it's okay.
16:05In that case, the best female buddy is High Heel.
16:09High Heel.
16:17What about Doraemon and Nobita?
16:19They're close to being a buddy,
16:23but Dora-chan helps them too much.
16:25That's not good.
16:27When they're in the middle of a movie,
16:29they become more like a buddy.
16:32They become more like a buddy every week.
16:36It's a matter of adjusting the feeling of being a buddy.
16:40If it's a show you watch every week,
16:43it's easy to understand the characters.
16:46Nobita is always in trouble.
16:48Dora-chan helps him.
16:50It's easy to understand.
16:52Nobita is dependable when it's a movie.
16:54That's right.
16:55They can talk more complicatedly,
16:58so they need each other.
17:00That's how they work.
17:02When you make a manga,
17:04do you think about how to make a buddy?
17:07Do you think about how to make it interesting?
17:12Of course, a lot of people think about it.
17:15But there are a lot of geniuses,
17:17so they don't think about how to make a buddy.
17:21That's why they don't draw a buddy.
17:23They don't draw a buddy as a goal.
17:26But it still becomes a buddy.
17:29Some people try to draw a buddy from the beginning.
17:32While they are drawing,
17:34they try to draw friendship or human relationships.
17:37Then it becomes like a buddy.
17:39Then we say,
17:41this is not a buddy.
17:43It's like,
17:45you finally came to be a buddy.
17:48The role of the reader and the audience is also big.
17:53It's not like,
17:55thank you for giving me a buddy.
17:57It doesn't look like a buddy,
17:59but I can look at it as a buddy.
18:01That's how we work.
18:03But for the readers,
18:05it's easier to make a buddy.
18:08For the audience,
18:10it's easier to see a buddy.
18:12It's not like Musashi and Kojiro.
18:14Well, yeah.
18:16What I often talk about in a novel creation class,
18:19is a body with a strong contrast.
18:24I think it's the personality of a person.
18:29Sometimes you think like a person A,
18:31sometimes you think like a person B.
18:34There is light and shadow.
18:36I think there is complexity in a person.
18:39When you make it into a story,
18:41it's easier to divide personalities
18:43than to create a complicated person.
18:47Then it works well as a story.
18:50There may be some people who prefer one or the other,
18:54but I think there is a way to think
18:56that the two components overlap with each other.
19:03What do you think is the ultimate buddy?
19:07I don't know.
19:09But I like Usono and Nakajima.
19:12Wow, that's interesting.
19:14That's right.
19:16Why is that?
19:17They are equal.
19:19Let's do it.
19:20Nakajima usually invites you to play baseball.
19:24When I look up the circumstances of Nakajima's family,
19:28I want to go to Usono's house to play baseball.
19:31There is an examiner at his house.
19:35Wait a minute.
19:38It's probably difficult to hang out at his house.
19:42That's why you go to play baseball.
19:45Basically, I don't refuse bonito.
19:48I don't just want to play baseball,
19:51but I want to go to play baseball
19:54while being scolded by my sister.
19:57It's a way of saying baseball
20:00based on the circumstances of Nakajima.
20:02No one is looking at it like that.
20:08What do you want to convey in this book?
20:11You can review the works you've seen so far
20:14and look at it from the perspective of a buddy.
20:17Also, when you look at a close relationship,
20:20don't just look at it as a sibling or husband and wife.
20:23If you look at it as a buddy,
20:26you can enjoy life in various ways.
20:28When I saw the New Year's rice cake,
20:30I thought, oh, that's a good buddy.
20:32That's definitely a buddy.
20:34That's a life-saving buddy.
20:36Cool Poco is a good buddy.
20:43I wanted to ask you about Obito.
20:45Do you want to join the Seflere Buddy?
20:49It's not a lover's relationship.
20:52But there's something like a partner, right?
20:54Sensei, I think I'm going to have a new religion again.
20:57I'm going to go home and look into this.
21:00Sensei, you're old.
21:02I've got your back.
21:05Maybe there is.
21:08It's hard to be a researcher.
21:11What do you think?
21:13I'm going to write this guy's name.
21:16That's a comment as a buddy.
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