Venita Aspen on Southern Charm Drama, JT's Betrayal, and Reunion Reaction.
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00:00Vanita, welcome back to Us Weekly.
00:02Thank you so much for having me.
00:03We got lots to talk about.
00:04Oh, yeah.
00:05My god.
00:06Oh, my god.
00:07So, yes, my god after the finale.
00:08I mean, watching it back for you, what was it like since we're, you know, months removed
00:13from it now?
00:14Watching it back now, I was just like, damn, I wish things were still the same.
00:17Really?
00:18Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:19Yeah.
00:20But, you know, they're not, so.
00:21Yeah.
00:22A lot has changed.
00:23A lot has changed.
00:24A lot has changed.
00:25So we find out that after filming wrapped, you and JT did start dating for a little bit.
00:29Kind of give me the timeline a little bit.
00:31So we started dating when I got back from New York in September.
00:35Okay.
00:36So it was from September, October, November, trying to figure out like, okay, like, are
00:39we doing this?
00:40Like, do we actually like each other?
00:42Is it because we're around each other all the time, like trying to figure that out?
00:46And in November, he posted that he had the girlfriend on Instagram.
00:50And that's how I found out about the girlfriend in that moment.
00:54So did you have the conversation that you were exclusively dating?
00:57No, we were just dating.
00:58Okay.
00:59And I think it would have been nice to just have him be like, hey, by the way, like I'm
01:02dating someone else and I've decided to go with her versus you.
01:06Fine.
01:07Sure.
01:08Like, I would not have cared.
01:09I'm like, oh my God, like I appreciate you so much for saying something, being kind about
01:11it.
01:12But he didn't do that.
01:13So.
01:14Especially since you were best friends.
01:15Best friends.
01:16Yeah.
01:17Right.
01:18Yeah.
01:19Yeah.
01:20Did you know this person at all?
01:21No.
01:22No.
01:23No.
01:24No.
01:25So did you end up like ghosting him after, like he says at the reunion?
01:26No, I did not.
01:27I did not ghost him.
01:28I took a step back after the super teaser.
01:30I mean, I would too.
01:31Yeah.
01:32And like, once the super teaser dropped, I decided to take a step back and I was just
01:34like, hey, listen, like this is wild.
01:36Like I don't really like what's happening here because in that moment, that's when she
01:40was calling me out of my name.
01:42So I was just like, I'm taking a step back from this because he was like, I can't do
01:45anything about it.
01:46And I go, okay, cool.
01:48Like that's not someone I want to like affiliate myself with if you can't like do anything
01:52about someone calling me out of my name.
01:54So I guess he thought me taking a step back was me ghosting him, which is like, no, I
01:59literally said, I need time.
02:00And if you wanted to talk and say, oh, well, you know, have you taken enough time?
02:04Like, can we chat?
02:05You should have done that versus getting mad at me and then making that decision.
02:09Sure.
02:10Did he, when, after he posted that photo of his girlfriend, did he reach out to you at
02:14all?
02:15So you never got even like any explanation about this?
02:18Not one.
02:19Then he quit a week after that.
02:20Do you feel like he quit because of your reaction to everything?
02:25I don't know why.
02:26I actually don't know why he quit.
02:27Like, I can't put those two things together.
02:28Like, it's not making sense.
02:29I'm like, okay, like you're doing this, you're posting that you have this girlfriend, whatever,
02:33but like, why are you quitting the show?
02:34Is it because you were lying about things and then you're afraid to get caught in those
02:38lies?
02:39Like, that's the only thing that made sense in my head, but yeah.
02:42So after you took a step back, when was the last time you spoke to him prior to the reunion?
02:48That was it.
02:49That was it.
02:50Yeah.
02:51I was like trying to think about that.
02:52Yeah, that was it.
02:54I think it was like six months.
02:55Wow.
02:56Yeah.
02:57And that was somebody that you spoke to every single day.
02:58Every day.
02:59Yeah.
03:00Yeah.
03:01Yeah.
03:02You're not only mourning somebody that you thought you had a romantic relationship with,
03:03you were mourning your best friend.
03:04Mourning my best friend.
03:05And I think that's the part that actually hurts me more.
03:06Like I'm mourning my best friend.
03:07Like we had such fun together, you know, like we used to shoot this shit, like we would
03:10go golfing and like dinners and walks in the morning and breakfast and like working moments.
03:15And it was just like, I lost all of that, you know, and it sucked.
03:18It sucked.
03:19And like you said before, you kind of just wish it would go back to the way it was.
03:22And I don't think that's ever going to happen.
03:23I don't think it's ever going to happen.
03:24And so I know we're going to see the reunion.
03:27You come, you know, guns blazing as you should.
03:30You know, yeah.
03:31Right.
03:32I mean, going into the reunion, what were the answers that you were looking for and
03:35did you get them?
03:37I was looking for him to communicate better and he didn't.
03:42So that's the main thing I was looking for.
03:44His communication has been lack thereof this entire time.
03:47And I was just like hoping in that moment, okay, like, you know, I'm still sitting here
03:51choosing to not let my anger take over this conversation, even though I did get a little
03:55feisty, but like, I was just like, I'm not going to let that lead me.
03:58Like, I do want to hear you out and hear you talking like he just did not give me that
04:02at all.
04:03It was very sad.
04:04I was going to say.
04:05Yeah.
04:06Really sad.
04:07We see you go backstage, grab your phone.
04:08What, what receipts were you looking for?
04:10I went back to grab my phone because there's a moment where he says that, you know, like
04:13I was trying to reach out to you.
04:14I was trying to talk to you and I was just like, these texts and what you're saying are
04:17not adding up.
04:19You think that because you texted me after I took a break to just be like feeling compelled
04:24to just send you a message to let you know, I've been thinking and praying for you, miss
04:27you a lot, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
04:28And I'm like, you sent me that text after a week, which it is a kind text.
04:31Don't get me wrong.
04:32But like that is not really to me outreach.
04:36And I was trying to explain that to him.
04:37I was like, that's not you reaching out.
04:38I feel like that's you trying to be like, okay, I'm doing this to say I've done it.
04:42And then I'm going to do whatever I want after if I don't respond to it, which I was at my
04:45best friend's wedding.
04:46So I did not respond.
04:47Yeah.
04:49Yeah.
04:50Yeah.
04:51Yeah.
04:52Yeah.
04:53Yeah.
04:54But she seems to be doing that a lot lately.
04:55Yeah.
04:56Right.
04:57I mean, so you did not get the answers that you wanted to at the reunion.
04:58Absolutely.
04:59What has been the relationship like since then?
05:00Are you done?
05:01Yeah.
05:02I'm done.
05:03Done.
05:04Yeah.
05:05And it's sad.
05:06It's actually really sad.
05:07Like I'm so disappointed in him because I knew in my heart that he was like the bigger
05:09man on this cast.
05:10You know what I mean?
05:11Like I was like, okay, he's coming in and like going out to everyone and like calling
05:14people out for being mean to women and like doing dirty.
05:17And now you're doing the same thing.
05:18Yeah.
05:19Yeah.
05:20And it sucks.
05:21Right.
05:22I mean, I mean, you stood by him.
05:23The whole time?
05:24The whole time.
05:25I stood by him.
05:26This past season.
05:27Watching it back with a different perspective now.
05:28Do you see him differently?
05:29Do you think that like he was, you know, trying to play you in certain ways over the course
05:34of the season?
05:35No.
05:36No.
05:37I'm like, no, I don't think so.
05:40I think that he's literally trying to cover his tracks for all the lies he's been telling
05:43and like, it's just not.
05:45Yeah.
05:46I was like, you know, the, I stuck up for him when it came to like Whitney's mom being
05:50called out of her name.
05:51He didn't say that.
05:52And I stuck up for him.
05:53I was like, he didn't say that.
05:54I know he didn't say that.
05:55I stuck up for him when they were trying to say that he was racist with the whole barber
05:59thing.
06:00I was like, I know he's not racist.
06:01I know he didn't do that.
06:02And like down to this like whole jacket situation, he's like, you are making people think that
06:07I'm mooching from you.
06:08I'm like, no, I'm not.
06:10I literally said he paid me back.
06:12I was like, I stuck up.
06:14I literally just put the card down because that's my best friend.
06:16That's what it is.
06:17If anyone were to ask me, Hey, like, do you mind, can we just do this or whatever?
06:20And I'll pay you back.
06:21Cause that's just, that's it.
06:23Sure.
06:24Like I don't care.
06:25Out of all the things that happened post show and things like that.
06:28And that's the thing.
06:29And I, when Sally made that comment, I was like, thank you, Sally, for speaking up for
06:33me.
06:34Like out of all the things that have transpired this season, that is the thing you're harping
06:37on.
06:38Yeah.
06:39Like, why do you think that bothered him so much?
06:41I, he, I think he's really obsessed with looking perfect and he's not right now.
06:46And I think it's getting to him.
06:48Right.
06:49Well, he also posted, I don't know, a video, like a behind the scenes video of him with
06:53his family, with his girlfriend at the time.
06:55And you were at the dinner with the girlfriend.
06:57Can you explain that?
06:58I, you know, I cleared that up at the reunion, which is great.
07:01And I'm so happy.
07:02Like when that, when he posted that, I was like, wow, this is so nasty of him.
07:06And I'm so happy I cleared up at the reunion because none of that was planned.
07:10And my girlfriend who actually commented on that video, who I was with that day, was like,
07:14this is actually crazy.
07:15Like I brought Venita to Shea New because I wanted to go here.
07:18We didn't even know you were going to be there.
07:20He made it seem like you were invited to the dinner.
07:22Yeah.
07:23And that day he also told me, he was like, I think I like her.
07:25And I was like, okay, cool.
07:26You like her, whatever.
07:27Like, I don't care.
07:28Like if you like her, I like her too.
07:29Like I'm your best friend.
07:30So yeah, it's, he's just like, I don't know.
07:33I feel like I'm collateral damage right now.
07:35Right.
07:36You feel like he almost like kind of used you in a way.
07:38Yeah.
07:39Right.
07:40Like he was like trying to do anything to like tear me down.
07:41And I don't like that.
07:42You don't like that.
07:43That's not a friend.
07:44A real friend doesn't do that.
07:45Like someone you considered your best friend does not act like that.
07:47Right.
07:48And especially, like I said, you stood by him.
07:49The whole time.
07:50The whole time.
07:51Yeah.
07:52Like I was the only one.
07:53It was myself and Leva were like the only ones be like, no, like JT's not this person.
07:56He didn't do that.
07:57He wouldn't call Ms. Pat a bitch.
07:59He wouldn't be racist because he's not like, he wouldn't do all these things.
08:02And like now this is how he's treated me in the interim and I'm just like, why did I do
08:07all that?
08:08Right.
08:10You don't know.
08:11Yeah.
08:12You don't know.
08:13I was sticking up for my best friend at the time.
08:14Sure.
08:15You never think that your best friend is going to turn on you.
08:16Yeah.
08:17Do you, does your perspective change about what he said about Ms. Patricia, what he said
08:20about you to the barber?
08:21No.
08:22No, no, no, no.
08:23None of that.
08:24I just know those things to be true.
08:25Like I just like, he would never do any of those things and speak about me in a negative
08:29way like that.
08:30Even though he's acting crazy on social media right now, I know he wouldn't call me out
08:34of my name like that nor Ms. Pat.
08:35Okay.
08:36Yeah.
08:37I'm just disappointed that, you know, this kind of took a turn this season where it almost
08:40made you look like you were like a home wrecker.
08:41Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
08:42Obviously.
08:43That's what he needs to clear up.
08:45Sure.
08:46Right.
08:47Out of all things.
08:48Like clear that up.
08:49Clear that up.
08:50So what was kind of like the timeline of events that happened there?
08:52Because we see like the Bahamas trip, this dinner, it was a little out of sequence, right?
08:57Yeah.
08:58So like, um, I'm trying to think the scene that we had dinner at my house, that was actually
09:06for him to come apologize for me, to me for yelling at me at the table at the Bahamas.
09:11So, but that happened after, um, so yeah, so it was kind of the sequence was not correct.
09:17Yeah.
09:18Correct.
09:19Yeah.
09:20Oh man.
09:21Yeah.
09:22This is just.
09:23It's okay though.
09:24Right.
09:25It's okay.
09:26But you, I mean, I think you said on the after show that like you thought that you were going
09:27to marry this person, right?
09:28Is that true?
09:29Yeah.
09:30Isn't that crazy?
09:31You know what?
09:32Time is really something.
09:33It really is.
09:34Like it's so crazy.
09:35I was just like, cause Leva and I would talk about JT a lot.
09:39Like that was the person I was just like, oh yeah, like JT's this, JT's that, she was
09:42like, I can really see you guys like getting along, dating, like making something off this.
09:46And I was like, yeah, me too.
09:47And I'm like, you know, here we are.
09:49Here we are.
09:50Did the two of you talk about that?
09:51Like the next steps and stuff like that?
09:52No, no, no, no.
09:53We just were trying to figure out like, hey, like, okay, are we doing this dating thing
09:56or are we not?
09:57Like let's go out and see if like we really do have this chemistry that everyone else
10:00is saying that we have.
10:01Yeah.
10:02What did his mom say about all this?
10:03Cause I feel like you were close to his family.
10:05You know, when he went off the rails and quit, I actually called his mom like two weeks after
10:10cause like he was not talking to anyone during that time, including me.
10:13And like I called her and she was just like, just give him time.
10:15You'll come around.
10:16Like it's fine.
10:17I was like, all right.
10:18Um, I don't know.
10:19I haven't spoken to her.
10:20I love bunny though.
10:21I'll never not love bunny.
10:22I'm sure.
10:23Like, and then you also said his current girlfriend is sliding into your DMs.
10:27That was, um, during the super teaser and all that calling me a rat and other things.
10:33So, but no communication.
10:34Nothing.
10:35No communication.
10:36Okay.
10:37And what about the girl that he was dating during the show?
10:38Did that, did you, well, I guess you did, you did know one another.
10:42That's the same girl.
10:43Oh, it's the same girl.
10:44Okay.
10:45So, oh, okay.
10:46So did they break up for a little bit?
10:47And then the two of you don't know.
10:48You don't know.
10:49Oh, so there could be an overlap.
10:51Did he tell you at the time that he wasn't seeing her anymore?
10:54What time?
10:55At what time?
10:56Like when you, the two of you started like dating after the show.
10:58Oh yeah.
10:59No, they, yeah.
11:00They weren't a thing at the time.
11:01They weren't a thing at the time.
11:02Yeah.
11:03But he was telling me and I was believing him and trusting him in that.
11:05So interesting.
11:06Yeah.
11:07Yeah.
11:08Yeah.
11:09Oh man.
11:10Oh my God.
11:11Yeah.
11:12It's too messy.
11:13You know, it's so messy.
11:14And like, I just wish that he could just come out and be like, Hey, listen, like I cause
11:16all this.
11:17I made things messy.
11:18Like, don't be mad at either of these women.
11:19Like I should have done a better job of communicating with both of them what was going on and what
11:23I was doing.
11:24It's so simple.
11:25Like be the man that you want all the rest of the guys on the cast to be.
11:28Yeah.
11:29So do you feel like you finally saw what everybody else was saying then?
11:31Yeah.
11:32I texted Taylor twice to say, I wish I listened to you sooner.
11:36Yeah.
11:37Yeah.
11:38But like, you don't know when you have blinders on.
11:39Yeah.
11:40You don't know.
11:41You gotta find out for yourself.
11:42Yeah.
11:43And like, I never, even when Taylor was telling me that stuff, I was like, okay, well like,
11:44I'll learn from myself.
11:45I don't want to judge him based off of your experience because your experience might be
11:47different than mine.
11:48So I was like, okay, I'll see what my experience is like.
11:50Um, but yeah, no, I've texted her twice to be like, I'm so sorry next time I'll listen
11:56to you.
11:57Totally.
11:58I mean, I think a lot of people will probably want to know if the two of you ever kissed
12:00during the season or things like that.
12:02And so like, nothing, nothing.
12:03And everyone's like, did you guys hook up?
12:04I'm like, no, like, I'm okay to be like, yes or no, but like, no, that never happened.
12:09That never happened.
12:10Oh man.
12:11Yeah.
12:12I feel so bad.
12:13Yeah.
12:14You know, one day at a time.
12:15One day at a time.
12:16How do you still feel about it now?
12:17You know, we're a few weeks out from the reunion.
12:18I mean, I know we have to relive it and watch it again, but like, how are you feeling about
12:22it now?
12:23I wish I knew what I know now then, cause I might've responded and acted a little different.
12:28Like I did come at him, but I could have done a little more.
12:30At the reunion.
12:32You wish you went harder.
12:33Yeah, a little bit.
12:34A little bit.
12:35And I wish I didn't say some things that I said in regards to like, um, our, our dating
12:40future.
12:41Oh, okay.
12:42Why did, at the time, did you kind of still leave the door open?
12:44Yes, I did.
12:45Okay.
12:46And now the door is completely shut, closed, and barred.
12:47Padlock.
12:48Padlock.
12:49No one's getting in here.
12:50Right.
12:51Why did you want to still keep the door open and what made it officially close?
12:56You know, I was still trying to give him the benefit of the doubt and be like, just communicate
12:59with me and talk me through it because we all get ourselves in pickles that we are like
13:03embarrassed about or like they're hard to get out of.
13:05And I was willing to give him the chance to be like, this is what happened.
13:08I'm so sorry.
13:09Can we try this again?
13:10And if I would have been like, yes, but there's going to be different.
13:12You know what I mean?
13:13But I would have been willing to do that.
13:15Um, and everything with everything he's been posting and trying to make me this liar and
13:19not standing up against the fact that I'm a homewrecker and that says a lot about who
13:23he is and I cannot be with someone like that.
13:25And I would want no one to be with someone like that.
13:27Yeah.
13:28Seriously.
13:29You gave him so many chances.
13:30Like, it's just, you gave it to him on like a silver platter.
13:34No, literally I was like, hi, here's a chance to fix it.
13:37Are you going to do it or not?
13:39No.
13:40Right.
13:41Right.
13:42Oh, well, you know what?
13:43Not the man for you.
13:44No.
13:45And you know what?
13:46And I keep saying to myself, I don't know who God is setting me up for, but he better
13:49come 10 out of 10.
13:51Like no issues whatsoever.
13:52And he will.
13:53Oh my God.
13:54And you deserve it.
13:56Yeah.
13:57I mean, I don't know what to say right now.
13:58Like, is there no way for him to get back in?
13:59Because like you were his only lifeline pretty much.
14:01And that was the only reason why people filmed with him last season.
14:05Really?
14:06Yeah.
14:07Because everyone was like, oh no, like, you know, we're not really like filming with him
14:08or like we don't like him or whatever.
14:09And I was like, guys, come on, give him a shot.
14:11They gave him a shot for me.
14:12Like, I also put my neck on the line and stuck my neck out to risk new and old friendships
14:18to like hanging out with him, bringing him around, you know?
14:21But yeah, the whole group is done with him.
14:23I don't want to speak for everybody, but like, I think they're done.
14:25Could you ever imagine filming with him ever again?
14:28No.
14:29No.
14:30I don't trust him.
14:31It's over.
14:32I've never felt like this ever in my life.
14:33I've never had someone do me so dirty.
14:34And then when you were so close.
14:35Yeah.
14:36Right.
14:37Right.
14:38That's the hardest part.
14:39Yeah.
14:40And have your relationships with everybody else suffered at all or is everything kind
14:42of back on track?
14:43No.
14:44And I'm so grateful.
14:45Everyone has just been like, you know, we're sorry.
14:46Like we did try to warn you, but like, you know, like we love you and the person that
14:50you are for like, you know, always going to bat for people who are like, you know, might
14:54be shut out and all this type of stuff.
14:56They're like, yeah.
14:57Well, on to bigger and better things.
14:59I pray.
15:00I pray.
15:01I pray.
15:02Right.
15:03You know, but the reunion does seem really intense.
15:04Yeah.
15:05It seems like Craig's in the hot seat a lot.
15:07Yeah.
15:08Yeah.
15:09Yeah.
15:10I mean, everybody raised their hands to see, like, if everybody's scared of Craig.
15:11Are you afraid of Craig?
15:12You know, in this moment, no.
15:14In that moment, I definitely was.
15:15Really?
15:16How come?
15:17I don't, you know, he just has this way of like, like Austin said it himself.
15:21It's like, he's always looking down on us.
15:23Like, he's like the bigger person, the better person.
15:25It's just like, no, dude, we're all like trying to figure this out together.
15:29Like, be nice.
15:30Yeah, right.
15:31Do you feel like maybe the Paige breakup kind of brought him down to, back down to earth
15:35a little bit?
15:36Um, yeah, a little bit, I think.
15:39And I think it's probably going to, I think the breakup is going to have him realize that
15:43like he was really kind of maybe shutting people out when he shouldn't have like his
15:46close friends like Austin and Chep and like, you know, all that.
15:49So hopefully he works on that.
15:51Hopefully he works on that.
15:52Yeah.
15:53Yeah.
15:54I think it kind of took a lot of people by surprise, but I guess watching it back, it
15:55doesn't really.
15:56Yeah.
15:57Yeah.
15:58You can see it.
15:59You can kind of see it coming, but no one ever wants anyone to break up.
16:01You know what I mean?
16:02Of course not.
16:03Yeah.
16:04And Madison is popping with that baby belly.
16:05It looks so good.
16:06I feel like I send her links to clothes all the time.
16:09I was going to say.
16:10I'm like, hey, we're going to sweat this.
16:11Do you like that?
16:12Buy this.
16:13You know.
16:14I was going to say, Auntie Vanita has got the Amazon lock.
16:15I'm ready.
16:16I need to buy my own little carrier.
16:17Yes, definitely.
16:19You see Molly and Shep have like a little bit of a connection.
16:22Does that continue at all?
16:25You know, I don't think it does.
16:27No.
16:28Yeah, I don't think it does.
16:29You know, and it was cute.
16:30Like if Molly and Shep went on a date, I think they're cute for each other.
16:33They're both very smart, quirky.
16:35You know, they do little weird things.
16:36Sure.
16:37Like they mesh, you know.
16:38Yes.
16:39But yeah, no, I think that's.
16:40That's done.
16:41Not.
16:42Yeah, I think that's done.
16:43Yeah.
16:44I was going to say, but the Sienna of it all.
16:45That's also done.
16:46That's definitely done.
16:47We know what happened to the shark tooth necklace.
16:48Did she get it back?
16:49You know, I'm sure she probably kept it.
16:50Right.
16:51Yeah.
16:52I'm sure she did.
16:53Yeah, yeah, yeah.
16:54Was that as awkward as it looked on camera?
16:55Yes.
16:56Being there?
16:57Yes.
16:58Yeah, it was.
16:59And I felt so bad for Shep.
17:00Like I know in a few episodes past that you will see me like go set up the table with
17:03him and be like, hey, like.
17:04Right.
17:05Yeah.
17:06How are you doing?
17:07Like, cause that, that feeling sucks.
17:08You like, you want to introduce someone to all your friends and like they're acting, you
17:10know, like they don't even want to be with you.
17:12That's hard.
17:13It's embarrassing.
17:14It is embarrassing.
17:15Yeah.
17:16It's embarrassing.
17:17But hopefully it's a lesson learned.
17:18Yes.
17:19Yeah.
17:20For the both of us.
17:21For the both of us.
17:22Yeah.
17:23The girls got along so well this season.
17:24Yeah.
17:25You know, we did have a little blip with Taylor and Sally.
17:26Yeah.
17:27Yeah.
17:28Yeah.
17:29But it seems like that kind of resurfaces at the reunion.
17:30It does.
17:31Yeah.
17:32Where do you see that kind of friendship going forward?
17:33If you do at all?
17:34It doesn't.
17:35It's not.
17:36It doesn't.
17:37Yeah.
17:38It's not.
17:39I know Sally was here a couple of weeks ago.
17:40Yeah.
17:41And it seems like that things are not good.
17:42Things are not good.
17:43And I don't think that they'll ever come to a common ground, which is sad because like
17:44they're really nice girls.
17:45And I think if they could work it out, like they're more similar in some ways than they
17:48think or they want to let on to.
17:50And like, so it's just kind of sad to see that because I don't know.
17:54You just want everyone to get along.
17:55I just want everyone to get along.
17:56Right.
17:57And like, so we can have like this good core girl group and like, you know, I feel like
18:01we really have it this season.
18:02Like this is like the closest we've all ever been.
18:04And it's so nice.
18:05And I just want them to work it out so you can really just like be done, you know?
18:09Yeah.
18:10Yeah.
18:11Do you really think Austin's going to propose by the end of the year, like he said in the
18:12finale?
18:14You know, he might.
18:15He might.
18:16Yeah.
18:17He might.
18:18You know, I have been spending a lot of time with Austin and Audrey and I really love them
18:20together.
18:21Oh good.
18:22That's so exciting.
18:23I'm very excited.
18:24And things good with you and Ryan?
18:25Yeah.
18:26Yeah.
18:27Yeah.
18:28Ryan and I are good.
18:29We got past that, which is great.
18:30Sure.
18:31Yeah.
18:32Yeah.
18:33Yeah.
18:34I'm glad.
18:35That was a rough moment for us because like Ryan and I have been friends for a very long
18:36time prior to me even doing the show.
18:37So that was a hard one that kind of tested our friendship, but like we're in a better
18:39place now.
18:40Yeah.
18:41Yeah.
18:42I'm sure this whole season kind of tested you.
18:44You know, and again, I don't know what God is setting me up for, but it must be wonderful.
18:47It has to be.
18:48It has to be.
18:49It has to be.
18:50It's gotta be.
18:51Yeah.
18:52It has to be.
18:53And it will be.
18:54Yeah.
18:55And are you looking forward to, obviously I'm sure the show will come back, but you
18:56would be back a hundred percent.
18:57Yeah.
18:58I'll come back a hundred percent.
18:59Yeah.
19:00Just without JT.
19:01Just with a couple of rules and who I will and will not film with, you know?
19:02Yeah.
19:03No.
19:04Definitely.
19:05Well, I'm sure because that would be really uncomfortable.
19:06Like you said, if he's not part of the friend group, it won't really make sense anymore.
19:07It won't make sense.
19:08Yeah.
19:09Yeah.
19:10And I guess he actually showed up for the reunion given that he, you know, quit the
19:13show.
19:14No, because he does do one thing and he loves to make sure that he can clear his name, but
19:18like he didn't really do that, I don't think.
19:21Sure.
19:22Yeah.
19:23So I guess that's why he came, but I wasn't surprised that he showed up to that.
19:25Did Craig and Austin also like gonna go in on him too at the reunion?
19:29No, actually.
19:30Okay.
19:31They didn't.
19:32Did that surprise you?
19:33No, I think they're, they don't wanna deal with it.
19:34They're just done.
19:35They're done.
19:36They're like, we're not dealing with you anymore.
19:37Go over here.
19:38We're tired.
19:40Yeah.
19:41I mean, I think Craig and Austin need to like work on their own friendship.
19:42That's true.
19:43They're not worried about that.
19:44They're like, okay, we have our own issues we need to worry about, like you have got
19:46to go.
19:47Totally.
19:48Well, looking back at the season, what was your favorite moment then?
19:49Looking back at the season, my favorite, you know what?
19:51My favorite moment, this is so funny.
19:53The moment I found out that Sally doesn't wear underwear because it tickled me so bad.
19:59It tickled me so bad.
20:00And like, I just remember in that moment, I wasn't drinking at the time.
20:03So the crew always brought these like little CBD drinks for me, which was so nice.
20:07Yeah.
20:08And then I drank half of one and like, I was starting to feel the giggles and I was just
20:12like, you know where I knew her?
20:14I just remember laughing for like 30 minutes straight and like being like, ew, you're gross.
20:18Like, I don't know.
20:20That was just fun.
20:21And then like, I really feel like in that moment, our friendship was starting and it
20:25really like became close in the Bahamas.
20:28And she texted me actually before I walked in.
20:29She was like, good luck today.
20:30Yeah.
20:31Yeah.
20:32She's sweet.
20:33Yeah.
20:34One more question about you.
20:35Do you wish that he showed up for the party?
20:36Absolutely.
20:37Yeah.
20:38I wish he showed up because I think if he showed up, it would have like cleared a lot
20:41of things and like things couldn't have festered and like left people wondering what was going
20:45on.
20:46Like, I really wish he showed up for that.
20:47Yeah.
20:48Do you think that like, if he did, maybe he would have gotten caught in a lie at all and
20:51that's why he didn't?
20:52Yeah.
20:53Potentially.
20:54Potentially.
20:55Yeah.
20:56He just kind of like ran away when it was convenient.
20:57Yeah.
20:58He keeps putting himself in all these like webs of lies and like, now I think he's trying
21:01to find a way to get himself out and throwing everyone under the bus to do it.
21:05Sure.
21:06Including myself.
21:07Including yourself.
21:08And then on to bigger and better things.
21:09Better and better things.
21:10Yeah.
21:11Whatever you got on the other side, God, I'm ready.
21:12I'm ready for it.
21:13Give it to me now.
21:14Yeah.
21:15Vanita, thank you so much for coming by.
21:17Yeah.
21:18This is great.
21:19It's always such a pleasure.
21:21And even though it was not the season probably that you hoped for, I still-
21:22Hey, listen.
21:23Hey, let's learn.
21:24Things work out the way they're supposed to, right?
21:25God has a plan, right?
21:26Yeah.
21:27God has a plan.
21:28Definitely.
21:29Always.
21:30Yeah.
21:31Thank you, Vanita.
21:32Thank you so much.
21:33Yeah.
21:34So good seeing you.
21:35Good to see you too.