In 2019, Arvind Kejriwal told Kunal Kamra why the Amit Shah-Narendra Modi combine was dangerous for India.
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00:00Now if you see, the presence of national parties is slowly shrinking.
00:08The biggest reason for this is conflict of interest.
00:29But when you came in your political career, you started with fighting corruption.
00:33But today, in 2019, on the crux of another Lok Sabha election, do you think corruption
00:38is India's biggest problem or communalism?
00:41I think today, the existence of this country is in danger.
00:45In the last five years, the amount of hatred that has been created in society, I don't
00:53think such an experience has ever happened in 70 years.
00:57The BJP people, wherever they saw a fault line, they caught it there and created hatred.
01:04They created hatred between Jats and non-Jats in Haryana.
01:08In Maharashtra, they created hatred between Marathas and non-Marathas.
01:11In Gujarat, they created hatred between Patels and non-Patels.
01:13All over the country, they created hatred between Hindus and Muslims.
01:15They created hatred between Hindus and Christians.
01:17But today, you say that Delhi should get the status of a complete state.
01:20How will it get it?
01:21What is its procedure?
01:22And what effect will it have on a common man's life?
01:25Delhi people choose their government, but the government has to get permission from
01:31the central government before doing anything.
01:34Today, even if you go to the capital of a developing country, how beautiful the capital
01:40is.
01:41Today, there is garbage everywhere in Delhi.
01:43It is dirty.
01:44Why?
01:45Because the city of Delhi comes right in the center.
01:48They don't listen to us.
01:49It is not accountable to the people.
01:52Delhi is known as a crime capital.
01:54It is known as a rape capital.
01:56Tourists don't like to come from outside.
01:58Why?
01:59Because Delhi police is not accountable.
02:01Delhi police directly reports to the Prime Minister and Home Minister.
02:04Now, if something wrong happens in your house, then you will go to meet the Home Minister
02:09and the Prime Minister.
02:10They don't listen.
02:11You can meet the CM.
02:12You can meet your MLA.
02:13They don't listen.
02:14So, if Delhi becomes a full state, then Delhi police will become accountable to the people.
02:20It will be directly accountable to the people.
02:22Were you the first person to ask for 70 years of independence?
02:26No.
02:27BJP has promised for 20 years.
02:29Congress has promised for 20 years.
02:31But their promises were false.
02:33Congress has been promising since 1992.
02:35But in 2004, Congress said, make our seven MPs.
02:39We will make it a full state.
02:41People made the seven MPs of Congress.
02:43They didn't make it.
02:45Then in 2009, they said, make the seven MPs again.
02:48Then we will make it.
02:49People made the seven MPs again.
02:51They didn't make it again.
02:52Similarly, BJP has been saying for the past 20 years.
02:54And in 2014, Dr. Harshvardhan said, if Modi becomes the Prime Minister,
03:01then his first signature will be to make Delhi a full state.
03:05A lot of people say that Delhi is the capital of the country.
03:08Parliament is here.
03:09A lot of things are happening here for national security.
03:12So, giving a full statehood was not possible in 70 years because it is the national capital.
03:16No.
03:17This is the excuse they give.
03:19The first thing we have to say is that the NDMC area,
03:22all the offices of the central government, all the embassies, parliament, everything,
03:27all of this comes under the NDMC area.
03:30Keep the NDMC area with you.
03:32That is 3% of total Delhi.
03:3497% of Delhi is outside it.
03:37Give that 97% of Delhi a full statehood.
03:40Exactly the same model is in the US.
03:43There is Washington DC and there is Washington.
03:46There is a youth of the country which is totally against this two-party system
03:51and it's totally against the national party system only.
03:54You can choose whoever you want in your state.
03:57You can do whatever you want with the central government.
04:00There is a crop which is expecting decentralization of politics.
04:03You also talked a lot about this.
04:05The power should go back in the hands of the people.
04:08What do you think AAP's role will be in the future to make that dream come true?
04:14Where do you see this going?
04:15I think it has already started to happen to a large extent.
04:18If you see, the presence of the national parties is slowly shrinking.
04:23There is a big reason for that.
04:25Conflict of interest.
04:26Let me give you an example in Delhi.
04:28In Delhi, the central government increased the rent of the metro.
04:33The people of Delhi did not want the rent of the metro to increase.
04:36The AAP is opposing that the rent of the metro should not increase.
04:41But the seven MPs of the BJP cannot oppose.
04:46Because Modi will scold them.
04:49That I have increased the rent, how are you opposing?
04:52So the aspirations of the local people can be fulfilled by the regional party.
04:57The message that you have to send just to the Congress party
05:01because the assembly election is going to be a big mess with them.
05:06So what message do you have to give?
05:09Why do I have to give a message to the Congress?
05:11The Congress should live in its own fun.
05:14We have to work with the people of the country.
05:17So this is my message to the people of the country.
05:20When you go to vote this time, you can be from any party.
05:24You can be from BJP, you can be from Congress, you can be from AAP,
05:27you can be from any other party.
05:29Just keep one thing in mind, keep the country in front.
05:32And it is very important for the country at this time
05:35that the combination of Modi and Amit Shah should not come back.
05:38It is very dangerous for the country.
05:40If not Modi, then who? Rahul Gandhi?
05:45This is a national subject now.
05:48I think this election is an election to defeat the combination of Modi and Amit Shah.
05:57This election is not an election of who will become the Prime Minister.
06:01It is not an election to make the Prime Minister.
06:03I had received an analogy from someone.
06:06He said that if there is a tumor in your body,
06:09then you will not ask, if not tumor, then who?