What did #Bruins' Nikita Zadorov say of the Swayman goalie v goalie altercation? Thoughts on Zadorov making that comment? Is Swayman an issue?
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00:00Nikita Zdorov asked about his thoughts on Jeremy Swayman sticking up for his
00:07teammate. That dressing room is toxic and NHL players are different
00:15whatever. We need Dr. Phil. Oh man. We need an intervention.
00:21I've never like you okay I've never heard that before like from a guy who's
00:28on a team with a player like all right he's sticking up that's what we do here
00:33we look we get each other's even if you don't like the guy he's supposed to say
00:36hey you know great job by Swayman but the fact that he's like yeah. Is that what he was
00:41doing? It is a bizarre comment. Maybe there's a language barrier thing
00:47there Curtis like are we missing something? Yeah I don't think it's a
00:51language barrier but I have to say on March 25th 2025 the year of our Lord
00:58seeing Greg and Wiggy continue a sports debate in the hallway filled my bucket.
01:05You know why? Because I can't wait for Thursday for Milburn because I was on this from day
01:11one I was already kind of like you know ticked off a little bit at Moshad for
01:15him even interjecting himself into Swayman's contract negotiations like and
01:22by the way that's a guy Brad Marchand who consistently took less money than he
01:27could have gotten elsewhere. He did it though. His fault. To play for the Bruins. He got an 8 year deal. He played through the whole entire year.
01:33If you look over the length of his career he took less money. Guys don't like that
01:37that's his fault. That's his fault. Yeah and guys don't like that. That was what our
01:41argument about is. Yeah. You're saying that guys on that team didn't like that.
01:45Yeah. Don't you want. Didn't like when Patrice Bergeron took less money than he could have gotten.
01:50No. Okay. Because you didn't like it you didn't like it when Tom Brady did it.
01:53Well no I don't like it. No I didn't like it when Tom Brady did it. Did you ever say anything to him about it?
01:57Well no he wasn't at that point yet but if I was on his team you're not gonna say
02:02anything to the guy but players don't like it. Ty always says that. Yeah unless
02:06you're at a certain position because what it does he it's supposed to set the
02:11market for the next guy but if one guy's willing to take less if Brady's
02:15willing to take less money or Patrice Bergeron what do you think the GM or
02:21those eyes are gonna say when somebody goes in there to try to do a contract.
02:24They're gonna go well if Tom Brady's taking less don't you think you should
02:29be taking less. Right. For the better of the team. Yeah and Tom Brady's the greatest you
02:32know the greatest player and Bergeron's the you know one of the top
02:37players in franchise history and you're like well maybe I should. This is Steve.
02:41Steve good morning. Hey good morning. So I enjoy your show very much. I may have
02:48missed some of what you guys been talking about because I don't get the
02:52opportunity to listen all that often but last fall you guys were talking about a
02:56moment that Charlie McAvoy had. That moment was the moment the Bruins signed
03:01Jeremy Swayman. From everything you guys have said about him for what I've
03:06read about him from what I've seen of him he is the most self-grandizing
03:11self-flagellating narcissistic pompous putz in the history of mankind. He is the
03:18cancer to this team. He is I'm telling you that is the reason Charlie McAvoy
03:24said we had a moment. Yeah. This guy is brutal. He's cancer. Well I think there
03:30are some who believe that. I think there are some who are who are now coming to
03:34terms with the issue in that locker room maybe Jeremy Swayman. But all the
03:43hockey people will tell you at least Mike Milbury's the hockey guy that we
03:46talked to that he's not really the issue with their team right. Has he has he
03:52played as well as he played last year? No. But he's 26 years old. He's not the
03:58issue moving forward. Wiggy what do you say is always the issue in relationships?
04:01It's either sex or money. Yep. Or cars. Nope. Sex or money. In this case it's money.
04:07Yeah. Sometimes it can be flatulence. That sure is. For you it is. But the thing about the the
04:14Bruins and where they are like I really believe that if Marchand had been
04:19extended this past offseason and he wasn't entering a walk here that he
04:26would have nothing to say about Swayman and his deal. I really don't think so.
04:31And clearly Marchand was asking for more than market value when he was
04:36negotiating with Sweeney prior to the deadline. And that's why he was such a
04:39stickler for his number. So then why is he able to call out Swayman for getting
04:43his worth but he's begging for more money than I think he's worth getting a
04:46raise at 38 years old and that's fine? Yeah that's that's a pot meat kettle
04:53right and that's the number one rule in any locker room at any sport is you stay
04:58out of your teammates negotiation when it comes to their contract. If Swayman
05:06has to hold out in order for him to get his money then that's what he has to do
05:10and as a teammate you should support him for that because he's trying to take
05:14advantage of where he is in his career to make the best possible piece of
05:20change he can make. Were they complaining about
05:24Pasternak when they were far away the Bruins and David Pasternak did not hold
05:31out and miss a portion of the season. Tell me the last Boston
05:38Bruin who held out and and missed a portion of the regular season. I couldn't tell you.
05:43You can't you can't because it was a culture thing. But they made a
05:46legitimate market offer to David Pasternak which is why he took the offer.
05:50They weren't doing that with Jeremy Swayman. I'm not advocating for either
05:55side I'm just telling you that there may be there may have been guys on this team
06:01who felt like they had a culture thing here which was that Patrice Bergeron
06:08it's Bergeron it's Patrice, David Krejci and Brad Marchand took less money than
06:16they could have received elsewhere because they wanted to stay here and
06:22play for this team that's all. And Chime always talks about the past
06:28offseason and how the Bruins made a lot of moves. Who that they paid this past
06:32offseason has really moved the deedle for this team instead of them maybe
06:36keeping that money and just giving it to Lina so that you have two goalies that
06:40make each other better? Neither of them but I don't think Lindholm
06:44or Zadorov have been good. So then there you go. But Linas wasn't going to take less money Courtney.
06:48It is the issue here I think that that is the main issue here. The issue here is
06:53that there is a clear divide in the locker room between guys who want to
06:56make the most money they can and guys who want to stick to that old Bruins way
07:01which Greg is right there was an old culture there where it's like Patrice
07:04Bergeron is our best player you're not making more than Patrice Bergeron you
07:07have to take 6.75 instead of 7 and that was that was the culture that is no
07:12longer the culture now and there is a currently a shift going on in that
07:16locker room and there is a massive divide because of it. And you're not
07:19gonna pay two goalies 17 million dollars each playing half the season. No. When the
07:23cap is actually hard in the NHL. It would be 18 million because they were
07:28being made they were paid less than 4 million combined last year. Right. Okay I'm just
07:32saying that we're in an absolute crapshoot right now so I would like to
07:35go back to the old ways. But even if you had Lina Solmark like that wouldn't
07:38change the result of this team. There would still be a clear divide. I have no
07:41almost identical stats. Right. But they made each other better they're not
07:44playing together anymore. No. That's the whole thing. But Courtney we're trying to
07:47say to you. I don't care what you guys are trying to say to me. They're both making 8.2
07:51million dollars. I don't care. It's not my money it's not yours. But you think
07:54Linas was gonna stick around for 4 million. I don't know. I don't talk to Linas and
07:59neither do you. I'm just saying that these two players made each other better
08:02and we saw a completely different team when these two players were on the same
08:05team. I think what made Jeremy Swayman better was when he did not have to be
08:10your go-to starting goaltender. Bingo. And there was no. Correct Courtney.
08:15So you can't have two 8 million dollar goaltenders on your hockey team.
08:21But how did Swayman look in the postseason when he was the go-to goaltender?
08:24He was excellent. He was. But he invested for half of the season Curtis.
08:30Well and how well can you play when your defenseman clearly doesn't want to play
08:33in front of you? How good can you be as a goalie when your defenseman don't want
08:36to play in front of you? Like he said no comment about Jeremy Swayman quote
08:41unquote sticking up for his guys. Yeah. I mean there's a clear difference
08:45between the player opinion on this and the fan opinion on this. The wiggy knows
08:50the player opinion that there's a text here that says holding out is the most
08:55selfish thing that anybody can do. Look at Brandon Ayuk held out wasn't ready
09:01when he came back. You see it all the time and it just interferes with.
09:05Swayman signed before the season. Yeah he did. Yeah like two days.
09:10Yeah but he didn't start until two weeks into it Curtis.
09:14Yeah but in the NHL season that's no big deal. It is here.
09:18But what's worse Greg a guy holding out or the ownership or the front office
09:24not giving him fair market value. If you just give him fair market value guess what he shows up
09:30and then he doesn't have to hold out. If you give Brandon Ayuk fair market value
09:34guess what he doesn't have to hold out. If you gave Swayman 8.2 million dollars
09:39at the beginning of the offseason he don't have to hold out but it's the team trying a penny pinch
09:46and squeeze as much money away from these guys as possible and the only leverage a guy has
09:52when he plays well is to hold out. That's his only leverage.
09:57And when did the uh when did Linus Olmark sign that deal that was 8.25 million a year?
10:04Because my guess is it was before Swayman and that's is there a better example of what the
10:10market was? October 9th it was when Linus signed that contract so it was after Swayman.
10:15Yeah it was after Swayman. So then that's what they were waiting for Swayman to set the market.
10:18That makes sense. Well Swayman said that one of the reasons he said he held out
10:23was to set the market for others like to you know to he wanted to be somebody who was doing
10:28that for other Swayman was October 6th Linus Olmark was October 9th. When did Swayman make
10:33his debut? I don't know. This is Andy from Hudson. Hello Andy. Hey what's going on brother? What's
10:40up? How are you? What's up? Nothing just a couple of things um the Bruins like Squeaky just said
10:46are awful with the front office. They could have signed Pasternak probably cheaper if they signed
10:53them earlier. Them waiting to sign people at the end is awful but as far as the culture goes
10:58Treyton Marchand and Bruins have nothing to say about the culture up management wise because
11:04they have just destroyed the culture of this team and I read an article yesterday about Don Sweeney
11:09if he doesn't nail it on the draft it's going to be gone. Why would you trust Don Sweeney to nail
11:13it on the draft when he hasn't drafted anybody? So you would say that that when it comes to the
11:18culture that Don Sweeney is the one who has destroyed that. All right um Swayman played in
11:26October. Curtis what is your point? You want to prove what what what are you trying to prove?
11:31You've been spending 10 hours on it. What do you want to prove you're right about?
11:36I'll just leave it alone. No no no it's fine. I deal with it every I deal with it every single
11:40day. I hear it's Saturdays. What is it that you want to prove when he started? Go ahead.
11:45Whoa what are you here on Saturday? What is it that you want to prove?
11:49Nothing. I want to prove that you were right about when Swayman started. When did he start?
11:53He started the season October 10th. Okay how long into the season was that? One game. Okay all right
11:58so you were right about that. You seem to be happy about it. I said it was I said it was two weeks.
12:03You got me. Can you record that for Curtis so we can listen to it at home? Definitely I'll send
12:09it to him. I'll air check it. You got it. You know what? I'm actually very very obsessed.
12:13Takes him 15 or 20 minutes to prove his point but he got me. Mark it down please if you're
12:18keeping track at home. The panties are in a bunch. What do you want to do get back? You
12:24don't actually ruin the culture. Want to get back to what we're actually talking about? Patrice
12:27Bergeron. You're crazy. Should have traded Bergeron. He was so good of a captain and he took less
12:35and he was like you know and now and then when you went from Bergie to Marcian his style was
12:41different. Yeah you want to know who this team really misses? Zidane Ochara. They never did
12:45this in front of him. I think Bergeron would have sat down with Swayman and said hey listen.
12:51Definitely. He would have sat down and told him how to do it. No no no he might have said hey
12:56listen I understand the direction you're going in but maybe think about this think about that.
13:01Bergeron wouldn't have went in the media and been like Marcian did. Well Marcian was asked
13:07about it. He didn't go out of his way to say it. But still you can word it perfectly. No and I
13:11agree with you because Monty used to say that all the time that Patrice Bergeron did all the coaching
13:15he didn't really have to talk to the guys because he would pull people aside. You're right. Because
13:18that starts a divide in that locker room. When Marcian said that about Swayman it's like
13:26really? So he should not have said that publicly. No no if you got an issue with the guy sit down
13:32and then you can have a conversation and then Swayman's gonna say listen Brad just like you
13:36I'm trying to get paid and you know you've been in this business they're trying to take as much
13:41money out of our pockets as possible. This is my only recourse Brad. You gotta understand that.
13:48But then Brad goes right to the media when asked about it and is like you know. That's not the way
13:54we do it around here. Right and Swayman's thinking looking at him and so and then if there are guys
13:58in that uh locker room like Pasto goes hey listen I dealt with this before Swayman I get your point
14:04Brad shouldn't be saying this. It creates a divide in that um in that dressing room.
14:08Here is Mike from Framingham. Hello Mike. Good morning how are you? What's happening? When a
14:14player when a player holds out for a large contract it's not necessarily a problem when
14:21they perform. The problem with the Bruins is Swayman stinks. I'm not sure if he's the worst
14:28I'm not sure if he's the worst goalie in the NHL but he might be and if you've got one more second
14:34let me talk about something you talked about yesterday. Yes. If you want to hold yourself
14:39if you want to hold the Celtics team together sit down with Tatum and Brown and renegotiate their
14:45contracts and spread their money over 10 years after this just like they did with Otani just
14:52like they did with Bregman renegotiate and spread the money 10 years out. Yeah but you can't do that
14:57basketball Mike you can't do that basketball they have max contracts you can't spread