During a House Judiciary Committee hearing prior to the congressional recess, Rep. Troy Nehls (R-TX) spoke about the case of Jordan Neely, a homeless man in New York City who was killed after Daniel Penny put him in a chokehold. Daniel Penny was found not guilty of negligent homicide.
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00:00This is not a second amendment. Your time is expired, sir. Thank you.
00:03I now recognize the gentleman from Texas, Mr. Nelson.
00:05Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and Mr. Kiley, thank you for your questions.
00:09You think about California. Well, it's California. You figured that.
00:13You know, as an old sheriff from Fort Bend County, Texas, we love the great state of Texas.
00:18You come into the great state of Texas, you start waving a gun around and threatening our citizens,
00:24or you break into a home in the state of Texas,
00:28you're leaving in a bag. You will leave in a bag.
00:34And as a sheriff, many did. Breaking into people's homes, their castles, threatening, scaring people.
00:44That's California for you, but I tell you, not in the great state of Texas, we won't allow it.
00:49First, I want to ask about the effect of left-wing DAs charging people with crimes
00:53for engaging in obvious self-defense or defense of others.
00:57Mr. Daniel Penny, his name comes to mind as a recent example.
01:02Last year, Mr. Penny restrained Jordan Neely on the New York City subway
01:06after Neely continued to threaten women and children on the train,
01:11which unfortunately resulted in his death.
01:13I'm sure that Mr. Penny didn't want to have to take the man's life.
01:18Nobody wants to do that.
01:21Although this was an obvious case of self-defense of others,
01:23Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg charged Penny with manslaughter,
01:28likely due to public pressure from the left-wing radicals,
01:33who felt Mr. Neely should have been allowed,
01:35be allowed to threaten women and children with impunity.
01:39And even though the jury came to an obvious outcome of a full acquittal,
01:42didn't take long, a full acquittal, the damage to Mr. Penny had already been done.
01:48He had been through an 18-month ordeal in which his name and reputation
01:52had drug him through the mud.
01:54So the government, the media's message to New Yorkers was clear.
01:57Dare to protect your fellow citizens, and we will destroy your life.
02:03You know, the old good Samaritan.
02:05Do you have good Samaritans out there anymore?
02:07You may not have them anymore.
02:09Why would anybody do it when you have nut jobs like Alvin Bragg and others
02:13that want to go after and make the individual that wants to help other people,
02:18he's all of a sudden the suspect?
02:21Mr. McDermott, do these kinds of political prosecutions
02:25deter people from coming to the defense of others?
02:28And how does that put at risk vulnerable populations
02:32like women and children and the elderly?
02:34And in other words, how important is it?
02:37How important is it for us to have a society
02:39where people feel empowered to come to the defense of the vulnerable, Mr. McDermott?
02:46Obviously, the question answers itself.
02:48It's extremely important.
02:50We have a number of different problems.
02:51First off, many people recognize the right to defend themselves,
02:55and very often they disregard the right to defend others
02:58as happened in that particular case.
03:01There are certain uniform, I would say, rules in this space.
03:07There are certain things that you see repeating themselves very often.
03:09For example, my clients that are being charged with very serious charges,
03:15the majority of these clients, the vast majority of these clients,
03:18close to all of them, have no criminal backgrounds.
03:21Yet the victims that are being...
03:24The complaining witnesses in these cases do have backgrounds.
03:27They have violent backgrounds.
03:28I have a client right now that's in custody,
03:30that will not release from custody because she's been determined...
03:33It's been determined that she's a danger to society.
03:36She's a grandmother.
03:37She's protecting herself.
03:38She's protecting her daughter.
03:39She's protecting her 75-year-old mother from two grown men
03:42that were beating on them, and she's being charged.
03:44So this is happening just far too often.
03:47Thank you, Mr. McDermott.
03:48I got one question, a minute left.
03:49Talk about the Second Amendment, uniformity in the Second Amendment.
03:53Based on the current laws of the states of New Jersey, Pennsylvania, for example,
03:57a Pennsylvania resident could receive an 18-month prison sentence
04:00and a $10,000 fine simply for possessing a knife in New Jersey
04:05that he is legally allowed to have in Pennsylvania.
04:08So, Mr. Ritter, how do you think that is in the spirit of the Second Amendment?
04:12How does the lack of uniformity among states,
04:16even in what kind of knife one can carry, degrade the right to self-defense?
04:22So, the issue is, under Bruin,
04:30there really is no defense for creating a ban on a particular kind of knife
04:37because all of these knives are common.
04:39All of these knives are, quite frankly, less dangerous than a firearm.
04:45The purpose of my bill is to ensure that if someone from your great state of Texas
04:51is going to the great state of New Hampshire and has to pass through New Jersey,
04:56that they can do so without risk of being in prison
05:00for simply carrying a knife that's legal at both the start and the finish of their journey,
05:06as long as they lock it up.
05:08This is about protecting your constituents.
05:10Thank you, Mr. Ritter. With that, I yield back.