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The Commanders just guaranteed all of Deebo Samuel's contract for 2025, and we think Washington is all in on Deebo Samuel having a HUGE season.
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00:00Uh, this just across the old wire.
00:03This is the, this is the new world we're in.
00:05So here's what happened.
00:07Adam Schefter got a message from the agent.
00:11This is the, this is the new way things are going.
00:13This is now you can't have a regular report, uh, without saying who negotiated the contract.
00:19I'm just telling you as a consumer of the football, I love it.
00:22It's great.
00:23Uh, consumer of the baseballs and the basketballs and the hockey.
00:28I don't give a single buttered, flambéed, au jused, cooked bleep about who negotiated
00:39the deal.
00:40Correct.
00:41Take your money agent.
00:43You deserve it.
00:44You did your job.
00:46I want to never, I never want to hear who negotiated the deal again, because here's
00:55what's happened.
00:56None of you, I promise you, I apologize.
00:58None of you guys care about this.
00:59I'll give you the actual news in a second.
01:00None of you care about this.
01:02This is a me thing.
01:03Give me a second for me.
01:06The new world we live in is if you want to get the nuggets, the Denver nuggets, if you
01:11want your Yoke, if you want your Jamal Murray, if you want your Michael Porter jr, I want
01:14your Aaron Gordon.
01:15If you want your nuggets, you've got to scratch the back.
01:20Used to be, you didn't have to do that.
01:21It used to be the most important thing was get the word out and whatever, whatever.
01:24Well, you know, just part of it.
01:25Now you get Adam Schefter at the end of this tweet, Tory Dandy and commander's GM, Adam
01:32Peters negotiated the deal.
01:35I assume Peter said something to do with it because it's with Washington.
01:39Sure.
01:40I don't care about the agent.
01:43It's correct.
01:44Correct.
01:45Take.
01:46They are not the star.
01:47The star is this.
01:48And now I'm going to get to the point.
01:49This is from Schefter, a rework deal for Debo and DC, the local 53 are guaranteeing 17 million
01:54of Debo Samuel's previously non-guaranteed salary for this season, along with adding
01:58another $3 million worth of incentives for sources.
02:02Samuel now will play this season as a one year deal worth up to 20 million, including
02:0617 million guaranteed.
02:07So there you go.
02:08There was the mystery.
02:09So great.
02:10Dismiss this a little bit.
02:11I, and I said, hold on, I'm not sure we should totally eliminate the possibility here.
02:16There always seemed like something needed to be done regarding Samuels and his contract.
02:22You're not Samuels, not Curtis Samuels, Debo Samuel and his contract.
02:25I think that was part of the reason he and San Francisco were far enough apart.
02:29He probably wanted either something like this or more long-term deal.
02:32And maybe it was a condition of the trade, but maybe part and parcel to the trade was
02:36to go from a non-guaranteed deal where he could, God forbid, slip on a pebble and tear
02:43his ACL and might not be entitled to anything.
02:45I don't know exactly how that works, but you know what I mean?
02:48Players don't like that.
02:49Nobody likes non-guaranteed.
02:50So it's obvious to shift to something that made sense for everybody.
02:54Not necessarily signing up to a long-term deal.
02:56What was going to happen?
02:57This kind of solves that mystery tops.
02:58Yeah.
02:59I don't know.
03:00How does this affect his cap hit?
03:01Is it stays the same?
03:02I'm assuming that I don't know.
03:04I wonder now that it's guaranteed, it might increase it.
03:07No, I'm not sure.
03:09Maybe there's something.
03:10I remember there was some kicker in the deal that maybe they could push some of the next
03:13year.
03:14And so I'm curious about the cap hit to me when it comes to guaranteed, non-guaranteed
03:17that doesn't affect me.
03:18Like he's going to get his money.
03:19That's fine.
03:20I'm happy for him that he's due 17 million.
03:22He gets that 17 million.
03:24It's more so.
03:25How does it affect the cap?
03:26And at this point, they're kind of with some of the moves that they've made now acquiring
03:29tonsil and these different things, they don't exactly have the most cap space to work with
03:33anymore.
03:34They have enough to fill out the rest of the roster, but they're not going shopping in
03:37the big boy market anymore unless they were to go with Hendrickson and they could figure
03:40out an extension and make it work.
03:41But I don't know it.
03:43This makes sense.
03:44You are going to have this guy, like you said, ease of comfort for Debo.
03:47Make it something that he's more comfortable to play here.
03:50I don't love the fact that he can essentially earn 20 million in a year for a guy that didn't
03:53go for a thousand yards last year, but regardless, that's what he was going to get paid pretty
03:57much regard.
03:58Yeah.
03:59If he plays great, he'll learn it and you go.
04:00No problem.
04:01We had this discussion a million times over with Kirk Cousins and franchise tags and whatever.
04:05And the thing I said at that point and loosely applies here was there are four different
04:12scenarios big picture where that could have gone.
04:16If he played great, you just signed him to a long-term contract and it's awesome.
04:19You don't worry about it.
04:20You go.
04:21We got a guy who cares.
04:22I can't wait to pay him.
04:23If he sucks.
04:24Great.
04:25We, we signed him to this one year deal.
04:27This franchise tag thing.
04:29Goodbye.
04:30Good riddance.
04:31Thank God we didn't tie ourselves Daniel Jones style to a long-term deal for a guy that isn't
04:34very good.
04:35No problem.
04:36But if he's in the middle, if he's mediocre or if he's pretty good, it costs you great.
04:43That's the problem.
04:45That's kind of like this now, but it, but in a much better way.
04:47If he doesn't play well, you go, that's one year deal.
04:51It's probably too expensive.
04:5217 million bucks against the cap.
04:54Cause that's what it was before this.
04:55Who knows if this lowers the cap number or not CBD, but you go, that's one year deal
05:00worth the swing.
05:01No problem.
05:02If he plays great 20 million to park it.
05:04And I don't know that he will.
05:05Maybe the truth will be somewhere in between, but to me, you don't have those negative scenarios
05:08you had.
05:09I don't know why cousins came up with my mind, but just reminded me of the, of the money
05:12and sort of the, is it worth it?
05:13Quote unquote, that discussion we had a billion times over.
05:16If he doesn't play well, fairly well, you're not, he's not tying you down for years, but
05:21if he plays great 20 million to park, I guess 100%.
05:23I mean, it's something that for a fifth round pick, paying him a little bit of money, you
05:27had extra money.
05:28Who were you going to give that money to?
05:29Cause that's the other thing too, is like, if you say, well, we could have had extra
05:3320 million to go spend, well, where are you going to spend it?
05:36Is that mean that now suddenly you're willing to go get Trey Hendrickson?
05:39Does that mean you would have been in on somebody else?
05:41Does that mean you could have thrown an extra 5 million on a Ronnie Stanley?
05:44So you could have got him instead of having to trade picks for Laramie Tunsil, who knows?
05:48But for a fifth rounder, I don't mind doing it.
05:51I don't know that there was a lot of other moves that they're going to make with that
05:53money.
05:54So I'm totally fine with it.
05:55But at some point too, we were talking last week about, are they giving up too many picks?
06:00Well, there's a fifth rounder.
06:02If he doesn't return out to be anything, yeah.
06:04Fifth rounders are a little bit of a crap shoot, but other people find stuff there all
06:07the time, right?
06:08Like you, you found George Kittle in the fifth round.
06:10You could find someone like that.
06:11You're willingly giving up on that.
06:13It's fine.
06:14It's not saying it's easy to do, but we'll see how he does this year.
06:16So are you, as quick side, before we get into some of these rule changes, would you say
06:20you're bullish or bearish on his season?
06:23Sounds like you're not that excited.
06:25I lean more bearish than bullish.
06:26I'm not saying he's not going to do anything, but I hope if he gives me what he gave me
06:30last year, I'm fine.
06:31I'm not thrilled.
06:32I'm not.
06:33It's like I'm whelmed.
06:34I'm not overwhelmed.
06:35I'm not underwhelmed.
06:36I'm just right in the middle.
06:37Does he go over a thousand total yards?
06:39No.
06:40Does he go over 900 total yards?
06:41No.
06:43Then you're pretty bearish.
06:44Yeah.
06:45I would say he goes 850-ish, somewhere around there.
06:49Give or take 700 receiving, couple hundred rushing yards.
06:51Yeah.
06:52I think he gets involved.
06:53I think he gets his touches, but I think Terry's going to get a bulk of the receiving game.
06:58I don't think he does anything too, too crazy.
07:00So 800 yards, somewhere around there.
07:02Yeah.
07:03So I think I'm more bullish.
07:04I mean, to me, his per game yardage totals for the first time last year dipped.
07:10You know what I mean?
07:12It's skewed always because there's a couple of games a year that he quote-unquote plays,
07:15but he didn't play.
07:16Sure.
07:17You know what I mean?
07:18Where he's active and on the roster, and maybe he's a decoy, and they targeted him once,
07:20and that's it.
07:21So those always kind of hurt.
07:22But if you just look at sort of the game logs over the years, the yards per reception didn't
07:27go down last year.
07:29The 13.1, he was up from 11.3 a couple of seasons ago.
07:33So he's telling you there's still a skill set there.
07:35There's still something.
07:36He's never been a great man-to-man guy, never a great separator, never a great pure route
07:41runner.
07:42But if you look at him as a wide receiver, you're going to be disappointed.
07:43If you look at him as a running back, you're disappointed.
07:45He's weapon X.
07:46He's what Deadpool should have been in the Wolverine movie that disappointed everybody
07:50to be frank with you.
07:51I can't believe you have to murk with the mouth, not talk.
07:53Like that's the whole point of Deadpool is that he talks.
07:56He talks to everybody.
07:57He talks to you, he talks to me, he talks to the characters on the screen, and you sewed
07:59his mouth shut.
08:00What are you doing?
08:01There's no wonder you lost control of that studio, and you lost control of the IP.
08:06You could have made billions of dollars.
08:08You've got the talker guy in Wade Wilson played by Ryan Reynolds.
08:12What does Ryan Reynolds do?
08:13Not eat fast food, hawk aviation gin and mint mobile, and do a lot of abs and sit-ups, and
08:19he talks.
08:20And you don't let him talk in any of the movies?
08:21Anyway, I'm trying to get Darius interested.
08:23Not at all.
08:24Nothing.
08:25Just sitting there staring at the computer.
08:26Didn't care at all.
08:27Throwing the chum in the water.
08:28Didn't bite me.
08:29Nothing.
08:30Anyway.
08:31So to me, this is still a weapon.
08:33And nothing went right in San Francisco last year, and he's included in that.
08:36I think this is good.
08:39I think I'm sneaky.
08:40Bullish.
08:41I've been talking myself into not that 1770.
08:42Sure.
08:43Type yardage.
08:44What are you thinking?
08:45What's the ballpark?
08:46I think he's north of a thousand yards, dude.
08:48You think it's still like 1050, 11, 1200?
08:51You're thinking just barely over a thousand?
08:53Little 1050 piece.
08:54Okay.
08:55I think it's 800 plus receiving yards, and I think it's 185 rushing yards, something
09:02like that.
09:03What is the level that you have to get to that you feel, okay, we're good?
09:06Last year.
09:08Which was pedestrian.
09:09Then I'll be thrilled.
09:10Correct.
09:11And that's why I say 800.
09:12Last year, 806 scrimmage yards.
09:14The previous year, he was at 1117.
09:16I don't think you're getting that.
09:17But if you're right around 800, where he went for 670 receiving yards last year, he went
09:22for 136 yards on the ground last year.
09:25If you get that, I'm totally fine with it.
09:26And that's kind of where I think he is.
09:28I just don't think that in terms of what you're going to get in the passing game, he's not
09:32going to be your downfield threat.
09:33He's going to be someone that's going to rely on underneath screens and everything.
09:38Maybe he's able to pop one of those.
09:39I don't know that I see that.
09:40Well, with all due respect to Olamide Zaccheaus, those are Deebo's touches now, with all due
09:46respect to Deami Brown, most of the year until the playoffs when he's like, you know what
09:50I am?
09:51I'm, I'm Jerry Rice 2.0.
09:54But before then, he was pedestrian Peter catching a tunnel screen a week, you know, that's Deebo's
09:59now.
10:00Like you now have a quote unquote second receiver in that way, the way that Kingsbury and company
10:03use their guys.
10:05Terry McLaurin is running the route tree.
10:07Deebo Samuel is running around the line of scrimmage where he's motion in this way, his
10:10motion in that way.
10:12You do a couple of things off of that bubble screen, a couple of things off of that tunnel
10:15where everything looks like it's that action and you throw back the other way.
10:18To me, there's endless possibilities, but a guy that can make a little on something
10:21simple and easy, just you don't even have to find the laces, Jaden, get your snap, flip
10:26it to him.
10:27And now you have an offensive play.
10:28They could do that with that when he was healthy last year and adding Samuel to that to me
10:33is a miracle mix.
10:34So I think that you can unlock Deebo if you can do one of two things.
10:37I need a run game that's actually effective.
10:40If it's be robbed, fine.
10:41I'd prefer an explosive running back in the draft or I need a speedy receiver.
10:45I need a legit number two that I trust, whether it's Isaiah Bond out of Texas, you get them
10:50in the draft because I think that's where they're going to get it right now.
10:54The little gimmicky guy running around, I don't think is as effective because you're
10:58lacking still in some of the other resources.
11:00If you were to get a guy though, that you now trust as a true wide receiver to, or you
11:04get an explosive running back that I have to respect that.
11:07And now you're stretching me horizontally while also I have to worry about you penetrating
11:12me up the middle.
11:14Then I think it's a little bit different, but that's why I'm a little bit down right
11:17now because I just think adding him with Terry, he's going to be an upgrade over the guys
11:21you mentioned, no doubt.
11:22But that goes from like a two yard gain or a no gain to like six yards, seven yards.
11:28And that, that helps obviously, but I don't think it suddenly turns into 40 and 50 yard
11:32touchdown.
11:33So I smell what you're cooking.
11:34And in general, if I had my druthers, I would do that.
11:38Like I would have tried to find it, whether it was free agency, whether it's for your
11:41trade or pre pre-debo, I would go, where is my speed guy coming from?
11:46Maybe it's a draft pick.
11:47Honestly, maybe, maybe I just, I don't necessarily need to be refined.
11:50Do you run a four, three?
11:51Are you good on the track?
11:53Let's have you offset the line of scrimmage and you run as far and fast as you can to
11:57terrify defenses, to make them back off, to create space underneath, which is where
12:00I want to be.
12:01Ideally.
12:02That's what I would do.
12:03So who knows if that happens or not?
12:04But again, I just want to look at it this way.
12:06Last year, Lamedy Zaccheaus and Downey Brown, 75 catches, 814 yards between them.
12:14I got a more effective player than both those guys with all due respect to them in a similar
12:18role.
12:19I'm not saying he gets all 75 catches, but that to me is the whole point.
12:22That's why you do it.
12:23So you don't have to go, all right, I got to figure somebody out opposite Terry.
12:26What are we going to do this week?
12:28I'll try Lou McCaffrey to give him two targets or this week is Zaccheaus will do it or Jameson
12:33Crowder is going to do it.
12:34Like those three guys made up this role.
12:37That's now one guy.
12:38So I think, I think that 800 all purpose yards thing, if he's just really hasn't lost a step
12:44or whatever the analogy you want to use with the evaluation you want to use, I still think
12:48just at a floor, he gets most of those touches and ends up with those kinds of yards totals.
12:52Is that, that's not a crazy way to think about it.
12:54I think that's where I'm at.
12:55I think you're thinking that he's maybe going to be better than last year.
12:58I think he's the same.
12:59And if that's the case, he's an upgrade over what you had, but he's still not Debo Samuel
13:04from three, four years ago where you're like, Holy crap, I got to have that guy.
13:07I don't think he's that guy anymore.
13:09I just don't.
13:10No.
13:11And I think that's okay.
13:12He's not available.
13:13He is.
13:14He signed a huge deal.
13:15If that's, if he's still 70, 70 guy, but yeah, a lot of wear and tear, but it's interesting.
13:18It's a good boy.
13:19Anyway, Debo Samuel back.
13:20We already knew he was here, but they restructured his contract, more guaranteed money will endeavor
13:24to find out what the deals with the cap hit.
13:26If that changes.
13:27I don't know that it does.
13:28It was already just over 17 mil.
13:30I can't imagine that changes when you guarantee money.
13:32Yeah.
13:33I don't know that it would go down, but again, you'll notice about me.
13:35I'm a lot of things, a capologist, not one of those things.

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