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Wednesday Night Live 12 March 2025

In this episode, I explore the complexities of global conflicts, focusing on Hamas and the necessity of reasoned discourse for resolution. I critique educational institutions' roles in fostering genuine critical thinking versus ideological propagation, using a case involving a Columbia University student’s deportation for pro-Palestinian activism. Additionally, I discuss loyalty and betrayal in personal relationships, emphasizing the importance of deep marital connections over fleeting friendships. I address the challenges of technology and AI in the job market, advocating for continuous learning. Engaging with listener questions, I stress the need for honesty and integrity in personal and societal decisions, promoting conflict resolution through philosophical reasoning.

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00:00:00Good evening. Good evening. Welcome to your Friday Night Live.
00:00:03Stefan Molyneux from Free Domain.
00:00:04freedomain.com slash donate.
00:00:05We're going to dive straight into your cool questions.
00:00:09And let's get to...
00:00:13Hi, Steph.
00:00:14What are your thoughts on Hamas?
00:00:18Yeah, no, I like it.
00:00:19I like it with pita.
00:00:20It's good.
00:00:21Pita will stick my teeth and I get a little bit garlic.
00:00:24Wait, do I have that right?
00:00:27Hummus?
00:00:28Hamas.
00:00:29Okay, Hamas, terrorists or freedom fighters?
00:00:32Well, my general thought on this and world conflict as a whole
00:00:37is I look at all conflicts, I look at the degree to which
00:00:42the participants are willing to be philosophical,
00:00:45to reason from first principles, and so on.
00:00:49And where individuals, groups, cultures, or whatever
00:00:52are not willing to reason from first principles,
00:00:56I don't usually pay a huge amount of attention
00:00:59to the conflict after that because the conflict
00:01:04is inevitable and intractable as a whole,
00:01:07if that makes sense.
00:01:11So, yeah, I look, it's the same thing,
00:01:16I hate to sort of diminish stuff in the Middle East and so on,
00:01:20but it's the same thing that I have with people
00:01:22who have relationships, like they're married or whatever,
00:01:27and they say, gee, I'm having a lot of conflict
00:01:29with my partner.
00:01:30So then what I say to myself is, are the participants
00:01:36in the conflict willing to listen to reason,
00:01:40to debate, to all this kind of good stuff?
00:01:43Thank you, Dormans.
00:01:45Well, if they are willing to do that,
00:01:48then the conflict can be solved.
00:01:51But unless both parties are willing to listen to reason,
00:01:55the conflict cannot be solved.
00:02:01The conflict cannot be solved.
00:02:03Sorry, everyone just kind of vanished
00:02:05and came back in again.
00:02:07You think you should give Izzy control of the background?
00:02:10Ooh, what would Izzy do with the background?
00:02:13I bet you it'd be quite exciting what Izzy would do
00:02:15with the background.
00:02:16She'd probably put me underwater with a big,
00:02:19giant bunch of eggs or cue balls or something like that.
00:02:23So I think I get it as a whole.
00:02:26All right.
00:02:30So, I mean, of course, I want the world to have less conflict,
00:02:34obviously, and certainly less violence.
00:02:36There's only one way for the world to have less conflict
00:02:39and less violence, or at least certainly less violent conflict,
00:02:43and that is for people to commit to reasoning their beliefs
00:02:47from first principles.
00:02:48If they are willing to do that, then good things can happen.
00:02:52If they're not willing to do that, the conflict is inevitable
00:02:56and it is intractable until people are willing to,
00:03:02both sides are willing to listen to reason,
00:03:04if that makes any sense.
00:03:09I suppose it would be kind of like how interesting, again,
00:03:12I don't mean to diminish the brutality and the violence
00:03:14and all of that that's going on in the Middle East,
00:03:16but to me it would be sort of like,
00:03:18how interested are you in watching a game of basketball
00:03:22or baseball or chess or anything like that?
00:03:25How interested are you in watching a game
00:03:27where people don't play by the rules?
00:03:29They just make up the rules.
00:03:30Like, would you be interested in watching a chess game
00:03:33where they just threaten each other over what the pawn
00:03:36or the rook or the bishop or the king or the queen can do?
00:03:40Well, it wouldn't be any fun to watch because
00:03:42there wouldn't be any particular skill involved.
00:03:44There would only be aggression and violence and manipulation involved.
00:03:50So I don't find myself, I don't have much energy or focus
00:03:55or intent to review conflicts in the world
00:03:58where either one or both sides is not philosophical,
00:04:02if that makes sense.
00:04:06Let's see here.
00:04:08Can we post the possible backgrounds here?
00:04:10Yeah, that's fine.
00:04:11Yeah, if you have cool backgrounds,
00:04:13I'm very happy to watch them.
00:04:16Thank you, Anthony.
00:04:17Thank you, Justin.
00:04:18I appreciate your support.
00:04:19I really do.
00:04:20Deeply, humbly appreciate your support.
00:04:22All right.
00:04:25A while back you told me to read The Fountainhead.
00:04:27I finished it.
00:04:28Thank you for telling me to read it.
00:04:29Then I saw your live stream talking about it the other day
00:04:31right after I finished the book.
00:04:34Yeah, it's a fantastic book.
00:04:35I read that book about every eight to ten years.
00:04:44All right.
00:04:45What are your thoughts on the Muslim Columbia University student
00:04:48who may get deported for supporting Palestine
00:04:50and organizing the violent protests at Columbia University?
00:04:54Was it Charlie Kirk who was saying that half of the students
00:04:57at Columbia University are international students
00:04:59for which Columbia University gets paid a lot?
00:05:03Well, is Columbia University teaching people to reason from first principles?
00:05:09Or are they taking money and pushing a bunch of
00:05:13subjectivist woke stuff on people?
00:05:16So if Columbia, and I don't know much of the details, of course,
00:05:20about what is taught at Columbia, I suspect that they're not
00:05:23applying Socratic reasoning and teaching people to think
00:05:26rationally from first principles,
00:05:28so I don't particularly care what happens there.
00:05:32Right.
00:05:33I mean, I used to.
00:05:35I used to.
00:05:36Ooh, nice.
00:05:37I like these.
00:05:39I like these images that you're coming up with.
00:05:41That's kind of cool.
00:05:42Sorry.
00:05:43Jump all over topics and you name it, but that's pretty good.
00:05:48All right.
00:05:49We'll call that Studio 3.
00:05:51Nice.
00:05:52All right.
00:05:53That's pretty good.
00:05:55What else do we have here?
00:05:56Yeah, those are nice images.
00:05:58So that's my, I see a bunch of conflicts and I'm like, oh, okay.
00:06:04So how are people doing in terms of reasoning from first principles?
00:06:09Well, they don't appear to be doing very well.
00:06:12And after that, and it's not because, you know, I'm sort of feel bad
00:06:16or, you know, I'm sort of virulently not caring because it's too painful.
00:06:20It's just like, well, if people are going to not pursue reason
00:06:25and evidence in terms of their thinking,
00:06:28then I'm not sure why I would be invested in what happens after that.
00:06:37Right.
00:06:38It's sort of like if a friend were to say, oh, that's interesting.
00:06:46If a friend were to say, I am going to do really, really terrible things.
00:06:54Would you want to pursue him?
00:06:55Right.
00:06:56If he says, I'm no longer going to work for a living, I'm going to go
00:06:58and be violent and I'm going to steal and I'm going to intimidate
00:07:01and blackmail people and so on.
00:07:02And he just abandoned reason and trade as his methodology for getting things done.
00:07:11Would you particularly care what happens to him after that?
00:07:19I wouldn't in a sense really at all.
00:07:27Downloads.
00:07:28All right.
00:07:29Let me see.
00:07:30Here we go.
00:07:31Here we go.
00:07:32Let's see.
00:07:33Sorry.
00:07:34This is a, I'll just use the video and background in.
00:07:37But let's see if I add a file to what we can do here.
00:07:41Oh, space, the final frontier.
00:07:47This is the voyage of the big chatty forehead launching itself through the
00:07:50nebula of anti-rationality to the black hole of thought that radiates you
00:07:54from time, time, time.
00:07:58Nice.
00:07:59Nice.
00:08:00All right.
00:08:01Let me, there should be a hover thing here.
00:08:02I got a little hover thing, which allows me to, I don't want to know.
00:08:05I don't want to do a visual search.
00:08:12Thank you for your tip.
00:08:15I appreciate that.
00:08:16Tips are very gratefully and humbly appreciated.
00:08:20That's pretty, that's pretty sweet, man.
00:08:22Coming at you from God's eardrum.
00:08:24It is Stefan Molyneux from free domain radio.
00:08:27All right.
00:08:28What do we got here?
00:08:33Beautiful.
00:08:34Absolutely beautiful.
00:08:35All right.
00:08:36But, uh, that is, uh, that is very special.
00:08:42All right.
00:08:43Oh, leave without saving.
00:08:44Yeah.
00:08:45Okay.
00:08:46Leave without saving.
00:08:47I found the fifth dimension.
00:08:48You sent me a hundred dollar donation this week.
00:08:51I appreciate that.
00:08:52I really do appreciate that.
00:08:53All right.
00:08:54So, uh, yeah.
00:08:55So with regards to the, I think this might be a bit spacey.
00:08:58I mean, with regards to it being a bit spacey, uh, that is, that is kind of
00:09:02cool, but it may be considered a little bit too DS nine.
00:09:06All right.
00:09:07Let me just, uh, fix that one up a smidge.
00:09:10Let's just go back to, uh, Ooh.
00:09:15Oh, nice.
00:09:17Yeah.
00:09:18You're going to have to crop that though.
00:09:19I can't put the whole image up.
00:09:21I can't put the whole image up.
00:09:23So, yeah.
00:09:24So with regards to this individual student, uh, it's not, uh, his, his
00:09:28deportation or whatever might be happening is, is not because he supports
00:09:33Palestine.
00:09:34Uh, it is, I think because he has vowed to destroy everything to do with
00:09:37Western civilization.
00:09:38And I think that's considered to be, um, there's a sort of law, if I
00:09:41understand this correctly, and I'm certainly no lawyer, but there's a
00:09:43law in America that says if you're interfere with, if you're here on a
00:09:47visa and you interfere with America's foreign policy plans or activities,
00:09:50then you can be deported and so on.
00:09:52So, uh, this sort of an interesting question is how much do non American
00:10:04citizens benefit from the first amendment?
00:10:06And that is a very, very interesting question, but, uh, it is, uh, if,
00:10:13if you are fomenting a violence, if you are fomenting violence, I'm
00:10:17not saying he is right.
00:10:18I'm not, cause I don't know the details of the case, but so not
00:10:21relevant to this guy.
00:10:22I don't know that case, but if you're fomenting violence in America,
00:10:26you would get charged.
00:10:27I think in general, it's cheaper to deport you rather than to charge you.
00:10:32I think that's the general, that's the general idea.
00:10:34If that makes any sense.
00:10:36Yeah.
00:10:37Ducks and dragons.
00:10:38That would be nice.
00:10:39If my, if he was in charge, in charge thoughts on tattoos,
00:10:43why do people get them?
00:10:45Well, tattoos are generally associated as tons of exceptions, right?
00:10:55And, you know, get mad at me if you want, but it's kind of
00:10:57immature to shoot the messenger.
00:10:58It's just a fact.
00:10:59Tattoos are in general associated with lower IQs and masochism.
00:11:05So what are you advertising?
00:11:07Like when I was a kid, there were no tattoos, like maybe there'd
00:11:10be the occasional sailor who would have some, some crazy tattoo
00:11:14or something like that.
00:11:16Uh, but, um, uh, there were no tattoos around then.
00:11:20And certainly you wouldn't, uh, you'd never see a female with a tattoo.
00:11:24Um, this was absolutely inconceivable when I was growing up.
00:11:29Growing up.
00:11:30So in general, the tattoos, uh, are signaling that you had a terrible
00:11:38childhood and you are putting out a signal for other people with
00:11:43terrible childhoods who aren't going to deal with them to come
00:11:46and act out against you.
00:11:49Uh, so in general, it's like being branded by a, an abusive parent.
00:11:53You're, you're being branded by your abusive parent so that other
00:11:57so that other people, uh, can't, uh, can find you and interact with
00:12:03you in that kind of negative way.
00:12:04So it's been branded by your childhood.
00:12:06Very sad.
00:12:11Well, yeah.
00:12:12So free speech issue.
00:12:13Um, I always, I was always told it's freedom of speech, not
00:12:17freedom of reach and so on.
00:12:19And so it is of course, hilarious and tragic to see people on the
00:12:25left pretending to care about free speech after the Biden administration.
00:12:28Like that.
00:12:29I just, I don't know why people even engage in this kind of conversation.
00:12:32Right.
00:12:34Uh, any advice for tech workers to future-proof themselves with the
00:12:37advancement in AI, keep learning.
00:12:41I spent three years in a large retail in the AI space and it was a lot of
00:12:46fun really to create new solutions.
00:12:49Well, I mean, I think most code is going to be written in the future.
00:12:53And I was having a debate with a friend of mine the other day where they were
00:12:56saying, but you're going to need people to debug the code that the AI produces.
00:13:00And it's like, well, yes, but people will end up writing code to
00:13:03debug the code that AI produces.
00:13:05So for those of you who aren't aware, I, when I was a programmer and I was
00:13:10the chief technical officer of a software company, I co-founded,
00:13:13I wrote code to change code.
00:13:15I wrote code to change databases, queries, forms, reports.
00:13:19And I wrote code to change code.
00:13:22Um, so it was kind of recursive code activity and you can just,
00:13:27whatever, wherever there's a pattern, you can, you can figure it out.
00:13:34So you either have to roll with AI and become an expert at it, or you have
00:13:42to find something else, but I think just straight up coding is, uh,
00:13:45it's not long, not long for this world.
00:13:48It is going to go the way of the dodo, I think.
00:13:51Uh, Steph, I still see your name brought up positively on the internet,
00:13:54primarily X, whether the SM and the mainstream media wants to admit that
00:13:57you've had a lasting impact on society.
00:14:04Well, this is an analogy, but it's an important analogy.
00:14:10Let me tell you that.
00:14:11So the analogy is this, uh, sometimes you have to let yourself get shot.
00:14:18So people know where the enemy is and what he's capable of.
00:14:22So I took on, of course, massive numbers of very controversial issues.
00:14:28And let's say IQ was, was the big one.
00:14:31Well, I can't even tell you how much credibility I gained or other, how
00:14:35much the, uh, arguments I was putting forward, the facts, the data, the evidence
00:14:39that I was putting forward, I can't tell you how much my credibility went
00:14:43through the roof because I was deplatformed.
00:14:46Was it worth it?
00:14:47Well, yeah, whatever spreads the truth is, is worth it.
00:14:50And a plus because boomers, and of course it's a lot of older people
00:14:55making these sorts of decisions, but boomers see ostracism as a sign of
00:15:02badness, whereas Gen X and under view ostracism as a badge of honor.
00:15:10So, uh, people, of course, when I got deplatformed, the ideas that
00:15:14were, I were arguing for, I don't mean to get all kinds of Obi-Wan
00:15:17Kenobi on you, but when I was deplatformed, it was like, if you
00:15:20strike me down, I should become stronger than blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:15:23Because people were like, well, why would you strike him down?
00:15:25If he's so wrong, just disprove him.
00:15:26Why would you need to deplatform him?
00:15:28If he's so wrong, just disprove him.
00:15:31So.
00:15:35All right.
00:15:35Let's see here.
00:15:37Um, uh, from Odyssey.
00:15:39Okay.
00:15:39So somebody wrote any chance of looking into reports of mass deaths, even
00:15:46excluding stillbirths and miscarriages via the COVID vaccine, at least 17
00:15:50million dead worldwide by at least one accounting, maybe six plus months
00:15:53ago, also see the Japanese report and others.
00:15:56Okay.
00:15:57So, uh, I've, I've read these same reports.
00:16:00I understand the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the
00:16:05reports, I understand these same arguments.
00:16:07Of course, I'm not competent.
00:16:09To evaluate them or figure out how good or bad these reports are.
00:16:14So, uh, I can take them at face value.
00:16:16I cannot take them at face value.
00:16:18Uh, when, now that I'm older, like it'd be 59 this year, right?
00:16:21So now that I'm older, I say to myself, okay, so if I put time and effort
00:16:26and energy into this, what's the value.
00:16:29What's the value.
00:16:30Let's say that I look into this stuff.
00:16:32I validate it.
00:16:33I don't validate it or whatever it is.
00:16:35Right.
00:16:35So what.
00:16:39So what, what does it, what does it do?
00:16:44I mean, do, does anybody really think anyone's going to get brought to justice?
00:16:47It's not possible.
00:16:52It's not possible.
00:16:53Um, if these reports are true and I'm not saying that they are, I don't know.
00:16:57I can't validate them.
00:16:58Everybody has an ax to grind.
00:16:59Everybody has an agenda.
00:17:00So I don't know if they're true or not, but if they are true, then it would
00:17:05be just about the biggest crime against humanity that has ever been
00:17:09inflicted, uh, on the world.
00:17:11Does anybody think we're going to get in there and poke trials?
00:17:13Well, of course not the governments that funded it, pushed it, punished
00:17:16people for not taking the vaccine, stripped away their rights, their
00:17:18ability to travel, their ability to visit loved ones and send their ability.
00:17:21Sometimes they have a job.
00:17:23Is the government going to investigate itself and find itself guilty of some
00:17:27of these absolutely appalling things.
00:17:29If they're true.
00:17:30Well, of course not.
00:17:31So I mean, I very clearly, very clearly, you know, I of course cannot give anybody
00:17:39medical advice and I never would dream of giving anybody medical advice.
00:17:42I shared all of the reasons why I didn't take the COVID vaccine.
00:17:50I shared all of the reasons why I never told anybody to take it or not take it.
00:17:54Cause that would be crazy.
00:17:55I'm not a doctor, but I certainly shared all of the reasons why I
00:17:58didn't, and you can go back and listen to this sort of stuff.
00:18:01I won't reiterate them here.
00:18:02They're kind of blindingly obvious in hindsight.
00:18:06So, uh, let's say that, uh, all of these terrible things are occurring
00:18:12as a result of these vaccines.
00:18:15Well, what would I do about it?
00:18:21What could I do about it?
00:18:22People have already taken them.
00:18:24I mean, I've heard about this detox stuff.
00:18:26I have no idea if that's true or valid or not.
00:18:32I don't know.
00:18:34And even if it was true or valid that you could detox a spike protein or
00:18:38whatever you want to say, even if that was true and valid, it wouldn't be
00:18:42something that I could recommend or evaluate or anything like that.
00:18:47So what would I do, uh, about, about this information?
00:18:54I don't need any particular new information to validate what I've
00:19:00been talking about for over 40 years, which is that the initiation
00:19:03of the use of force is immoral.
00:19:08So I'm, you know, I'm happy to hear if, if there's a purpose to
00:19:14looking into this stuff.
00:19:19Well, what would I do about it?
00:19:20What would I do with it?
00:19:21I mean, everybody who's taken the vaccine has already taken the vaccine.
00:19:25I really can't imagine for the life of me that anybody who didn't take the
00:19:30vaccine, say four years ago is going to take the vaccine now.
00:19:34So you can't undo the people who've taken the vaccine.
00:19:38You can't convince people who haven't taken the vaccine to take the vaccine.
00:19:42So what on earth would be the purpose?
00:19:48What is the purpose?
00:19:49What is the purpose?
00:19:55And it's funny too.
00:19:56Sorry, just go back to the Columbia student for a second, because of
00:19:58course, even though, even though Trump told everyone at the Capitol on January
00:20:036th to protest peacefully and to obey law enforcement, he was considered to
00:20:08have incited an insurrection, right?
00:20:11Even though he told people that even though he told people the peace one,
00:20:13there's a basis of a whole impeachment thing, the basis of the, um, rounding
00:20:17up of the J sixers.
00:20:19So when the president says to people, be peaceful, he's guilty of
00:20:23insurrection, but when a guy says he wants to destroy all of Western
00:20:26civilization, um, that's fine.
00:20:28I don't know.
00:20:29It's just why you can't debate with people who just are chameleons, right?
00:20:35It's like trying to paint a chameleon with a constantly changing background.
00:20:37It's sort of pointless, right?
00:20:40Your work will live on forever.
00:20:42Well, thank you, Dylan.
00:20:43I appreciate that.
00:20:47Oh, that's, that's kind of trippy.
00:20:50That might be fun to try.
00:20:56All right.
00:20:57Let me close that.
00:20:58Thanks, Steve.
00:21:11All right.
00:21:12I'm not sure where the heck that one went.
00:21:14We'll get back to it.
00:21:15I am sure.
00:21:22So yeah.
00:21:23Happy to take your questions, comments.
00:21:24Of course.
00:21:25I'm very happy to, uh, take your support, your donations.
00:21:31Very, very, uh, deeply and humbly appreciated.
00:21:35All right.
00:21:36Let's see.
00:21:37Let's pick one more file.
00:21:38That one's that one's kind of cool.
00:21:40Yes.
00:21:41Joining the giant heads of philosophy, but somehow vaingloriously
00:21:45larger than they are all put together.
00:21:47I appreciate that.
00:21:53It's definitely interesting.
00:21:55Dylan, because everything seems different since 2020 and you're
00:21:58deplatforming truth because are few and far between.
00:22:01Yeah.
00:22:02But a lot of the stuff that I talked about has gone mainstream.
00:22:04And as I've talked about before, it just gets boring and unpleasant.
00:22:09We're being earlier than everyone else by like 10 or 20 years.
00:22:13I mean, just no, it's no fun.
00:22:15It's no fun.
00:22:18I mean, it's fun for a while.
00:22:20See, you hope you hope of course, like I was just reading today.
00:22:23Sorry to jump all over the place here.
00:22:25German intelligence has now joined the CIA in concluding with a confidence
00:22:29up to 95% that the likeliest origin of COVID-19 was a lab leak at the Wuhan lab.
00:22:39Well, this is from IO on X.
00:22:42It seems to me that at this point, the lab leak should be regarded
00:22:44as the default hypothesis.
00:22:48Now, of course it was so obvious, right?
00:22:53It was so obvious.
00:22:54And I did, of course, the truth about COVID and, and all of that,
00:22:59the case against China.
00:23:00I didn't know that may have been back the case against not just China,
00:23:04but it was just so obvious.
00:23:07Of course, I mean, you've got a COVID, a coronavirus pandemic emerging
00:23:12from 400 feet from a COVID lab, which has the same level of security as
00:23:19your average dentist's office.
00:23:20Right.
00:23:21I mean, that was not super complicated.
00:23:22Right.
00:23:24So.
00:23:29So if you're early, you hope of course, that if you're consistently early,
00:23:34you get a lot of people who say, wow, this guy's right a lot.
00:23:40And he's, you know, uh, it's, he's got a bang on, he understands
00:23:46and so on.
00:23:47Right.
00:23:49And, uh, but that wasn't what happens is people just get more and more
00:23:53frustrated, angry and mad as a whole.
00:23:55And then you just get de-platformed.
00:23:56Right.
00:23:57So society punishes its truth tellers.
00:23:59And the truth telling is not so much the de-platforming the punishment
00:24:02is the indifference of everyone.
00:24:03Who's like, oh man, Steph, that guy's still alive.
00:24:06Whatever happened to that guy?
00:24:07I wonder where he went.
00:24:08And it's like, I went to see if anybody was interested in following me.
00:24:11Like, so when you, if your, if your friends are with you, right.
00:24:16Yeah.
00:24:17Your friends are with you at a bar and then you get kicked out for
00:24:20some completely unjust reason.
00:24:22And your friends don't even notice that you're gone.
00:24:24Well, they're probably not very good for a good friends.
00:24:26Right.
00:24:27So.
00:24:29All right.
00:24:32Breaking news out of Austin, Texas.
00:24:35Top reporter for info was murdered outside his home on Sunday.
00:24:38On Tuesday.
00:24:39Uh, many employers have been swatted.
00:24:41I know one guy got swatted and, uh, Alex Jones, of course,
00:24:44he's talking about.
00:24:45Um, I think general Flynn has also told Alex Jones that there's a
00:24:48hit out on him and stuff.
00:24:53So.
00:24:55Oh, there's a very nice images guys.
00:24:57Thank you very much.
00:25:00I do appreciate it.
00:25:01I'm sorry.
00:25:02I should probably be slightly better at multitasking, but, uh, I'm not.
00:25:09It's just, I'm going to save.
00:25:10Oh, that's a nice, that looks definitely like, what is that?
00:25:13Uh, Elftown.
00:25:15That's nice.
00:25:20Yes.
00:25:21That is very Elrond Elrond Hubbard.
00:25:24All right.
00:25:26That's lovely.
00:25:33Oh, these float overs.
00:25:34I'm just not used to them.
00:25:36Oh, that's nice too.
00:25:38Four by three.
00:25:39Ooh, I wonder how that'll work.
00:25:43I appreciate everybody.
00:25:44Uh, allow me to futz around with this stuff.
00:25:47Kind of cool.
00:25:48And, uh, they stay around forever.
00:25:51Yes.
00:25:52Very much like, uh, very much on our way to Mordor.
00:25:58She's better.
00:25:59If I could get my head.
00:26:00Yeah.
00:26:01Between those two things, I look like a combination of an orc and princess layer.
00:26:06There you go.
00:26:07We're all set.
00:26:08Visual jokes that don't come across at all in the podcast.
00:26:10All right.
00:26:11Thank you for your indulgence.
00:26:13Let me get back to your questions.
00:26:14All right.
00:26:19All right.
00:26:20How do you weigh different types of betrayal in marriage?
00:26:24Would you say an affair is the worst form of betrayal or can ignoring the
00:26:28needs of the partner to the point of burning them out and harming their
00:26:32health, not just be bad as bad or worse.
00:26:35Oh no.
00:26:36There's many things that are worse than an affair.
00:26:37Yeah, for sure.
00:26:42Um, turning a child against the other parent.
00:26:45If you're married, that's a betrayal.
00:26:47That's worse than an affair.
00:26:49Um, obviously violence is worse than an affair.
00:26:52And of course the tragically common forcing a man to raise another man's
00:26:59child by not telling him about uncertain paternity is one of the worst things.
00:27:05It is absolutely one of the worst things around for a woman to force a man to
00:27:13raise another man's child by not telling him about uncertainties in paternity.
00:27:18I mean, it was in France.
00:27:19I think it's in France.
00:27:20You can't, uh, you can't actually get a DNA test without the woman's approval.
00:27:23It's absolutely mad.
00:27:25There should be, there should be absolutely mandatory DNA tests.
00:27:27Absolutely.
00:27:28I mean, of course it should be mandatory DNA tests.
00:27:30Can you imagine, let's say that, that only a 5% of babies are paternity
00:27:38fraud, let's say it's probably way higher, but let's just say it's only 5%.
00:27:42Well, can you imagine the outrage and outcry if one out of 20 new mothers went
00:27:48home with a baby who wasn't her own?
00:27:50People would lose their shit, completely lose their shit.
00:27:53And understandably so, but it's just men.
00:27:55So, so what does it matter?
00:27:57Uh, not again, outside of medical issues, blah, blah, blah.
00:28:01Uh, for a woman to not have sex with a man or for a man to not have sex with
00:28:05his wife, a woman not to have sex with her husband, a husband to not have sex
00:28:09with his wife, uh, massive, uh, betrayal.
00:28:11And certainly in the long run, much worse than a, uh, an affair.
00:28:15So yeah, there's lots of other stuff.
00:28:17Dear Steph, is it still a red flag?
00:28:20Sorry, is it a red flag?
00:28:21If you meet a new friend or potential partner and they say they don't have a
00:28:24lot of friends, is it also a red flag?
00:28:26If they constantly buy you things, even without you asking them, to me, this is
00:28:31a sign of desperation and a lack of quality the person can bring to the
00:28:36relationship, but I'm curious to hear your thoughts.
00:28:40Hmm.
00:28:42Interesting.
00:28:44Interesting.
00:28:50So, uh, let me tell you, uh, friends are how you meet your spouse.
00:28:59That's what friends are for.
00:29:01Friends are to go out and not be alone and look weird so that you can meet
00:29:05your spouse.
00:29:07I mean, it's funny because the friends of mine who invited me to come and play
00:29:14some pretty good league volleyball where I met my wife, I did not stay friends
00:29:21with them.
00:29:22In fact, I was no longer friends with them even before my wife and I got
00:29:25married and we got married 11 months after we met.
00:29:29So, um, when you're young, uh, friendship means a lot.
00:29:34I get that.
00:29:35But when you get older, your spouse is everything.
00:29:38And you know, friends are nice.
00:29:39They're nice to have, uh, but your spouse is everything.
00:29:42So, uh, friends are there to show that you have social skills so that you pass
00:29:46the initial smell test of whoever you're going to marry.
00:29:49But marriage is it, man.
00:29:50Marriage is the whole deal.
00:29:51Everything other than marriage is vaguely bullshit.
00:29:53Honestly, I'm telling you this straight up.
00:29:55I've been married for 23 years.
00:29:57Love my wife more and more each day.
00:29:59My heart is growing from a raisin to a supernova over the course of my
00:30:03marriage.
00:30:04She's just beyond wonderful every day.
00:30:06So thoughtful, so caring, so strong and so passionate and just amazing all
00:30:11around and very funny.
00:30:13God, having a partner with a great sense of humor is knits up the raveled
00:30:18sleeve of care to put it mildly.
00:30:20So your spouse is everything.
00:30:25Everything else is mostly bullshit.
00:30:28Your job is kind of bullshit.
00:30:32You get hit by a bus.
00:30:33They'll just replace you with someone else at work.
00:30:39It doesn't matter.
00:30:40We're a family.
00:30:41No, you're not.
00:30:43Anybody who says we're a family at work is got one hand in your pocket and
00:30:47the other one disassembling your gonads and friends.
00:30:51Yeah, they come and go.
00:30:52They move away, but you see your spouse.
00:30:54I mean, you are one flesh.
00:30:55You are two trees that have grown together.
00:30:57You are one flesh where you go.
00:30:58She goes where she goes.
00:30:59You go.
00:31:00You make actual human beings.
00:31:01You spend, you know, I have, I have good friends and I'm, I'm not in any
00:31:05way trying to disparage my friendship, but in terms of the people I spent
00:31:09time with, especially, you know, my, my wife and I are home all day and we
00:31:13homeschool and all of that.
00:31:14So, I mean, we are, we met a little bit later in life.
00:31:17I was in my thirties, but we've had more marriage than most people who would
00:31:22live three or four lifetimes because we don't just have the couple of hours
00:31:25a day and some stretch time on weekends.
00:31:27We spend all day, every day together.
00:31:30And it's an incredibly beautiful thing.
00:31:32And your spouse is, is everything, everything in your life is related to
00:31:37your spouse and they are as close as your bottom layer of epidermis closer.
00:31:44In fact, they can see things you can't see in yourself.
00:31:47It is the great ease, beauty, comfort, and lubrication of life to have
00:31:54someone always in your corner.
00:31:56You're always in her corner.
00:31:58She always loves you.
00:31:59You always love her.
00:32:00You are together forever till death you part for better or for worse in
00:32:04sickness and in health, that that is an absolute guarantee.
00:32:07I believe more in my wife than in the physics of this universe.
00:32:12I believe in more in her integrity than my own.
00:32:14I believe more in her virtue than in the laws of physics because it's
00:32:21battle tested and a hundred percent reliable.
00:32:25So when it comes to evaluating friends, the only question you need to ask
00:32:33yourself is, is this friend going to make me look good to my potential spouse?
00:32:38So my wife and I went out with friends of mine early on.
00:32:41We went out with my friends.
00:32:43We went out with her friends and we had a blast with both.
00:32:45So your friends are your stepping stone to your spouse,
00:32:49your family, your reproduction.
00:32:50You can't reproduce with friends.
00:32:51You can only reproduce with a spouse.
00:32:54You know, there's this, I mentioned this before on the show,
00:32:56so I'll keep it brief, but you know, there's this completely
00:32:59shitty thing that happens in sitcoms.
00:33:01Right.
00:33:02And it's always the same thing.
00:33:03I remember it from friends and a bunch of other sitcoms.
00:33:05Always the same thing.
00:33:06Someone gets pregnant and there's no guy around for whatever reason,
00:33:09the guy is not around and he's taken off or whatever.
00:33:12Right.
00:33:13And then she's like, I can't do this.
00:33:15I can't do this.
00:33:16And she freaks out at some point.
00:33:17And then our friends are like, Hey, Hey, Hey, relax.
00:33:20We're going to be there for you.
00:33:21A hundred percent.
00:33:22You're not going to go through this alone.
00:33:24It's like, that's bullshit.
00:33:27That's bullshit.
00:33:31You got a baby who wakes up three or four or five times a night.
00:33:34You really think your friend's going to be over every night helping you out?
00:33:36Of course not.
00:33:40Friends are side, side, side dishes in the main course of marriage.
00:33:46They're not going to be there for you when you have a baby.
00:33:48Of course not.
00:33:50Like you got to be kidding.
00:33:52Of course, they're not going to be there.
00:33:53Does that mean they'll never be there?
00:33:54No, no, no.
00:33:55They'll be, but they'll come by once a week or two and, and whatever.
00:33:58But that's just not, not going to have the same relationship.
00:34:00You have to be wedded and welded at the hips with someone to get through
00:34:04this thing called life.
00:34:07There's no substitute.
00:34:11When I was sick as a dog, when I had cancer, my wife was there for me.
00:34:15150%.
00:34:17Friends came by once in a while and that was nice, but it's 1%.
00:34:25When you're happily married, especially if you are home with your wife
00:34:29during the day, it's easy.
00:34:3199% of all of your time with another human being or other human beings
00:34:36to spend with your wife.
00:34:37And that's of course, when you have a child, that's, but that's an
00:34:39expression of your marriage.
00:34:41So I'll tell you what I judge people by.
00:34:45I judge people by the quality of their relationship with their spouse.
00:34:48And if they're really focused on friendships, I view them as immature.
00:34:52Now, again, I'm not saying everybody who has friends is immature.
00:34:54I'm not saying everybody who's focused on friends is immature, but friends
00:34:57are a stepping stone to get to your bride, to get to your tree that grows
00:35:01together, to get to your person, to get to the one itis of the person
00:35:04who's going to go through life with you.
00:35:06Who's going to be your second skin.
00:35:09And you're their second skin.
00:35:11That's all all friends are for.
00:35:15So, uh, yeah, I, I, I would judge a friend by how well that friend
00:35:21validates me to a woman who's evaluating me.
00:35:25That's all.
00:35:30But yeah, it would be a red flag if they're constantly buying
00:35:33things without you asking them.
00:35:34Yeah.
00:35:35That's that's manipulation.
00:35:36That's kind of weird and creepy.
00:35:38Uh, no, I would not be friends with someone that is of course
00:35:40is desperate, right?
00:35:43All right.
00:35:44Uh, somebody says I would want to brag to those who attacked me for
00:35:48not taking the shots.
00:35:49I wouldn't be very empathetic about it.
00:35:51I'd want the vengeance, not the greatest impulses.
00:35:54I mean, honestly, we judge your actions, judge your actions.
00:35:58Don't judge your impulses.
00:35:59Don't judge your impulses.
00:36:00You're mad at someone.
00:36:01Just be as mad as you wanted them.
00:36:02Obviously don't scream at them and hit them or whatever it is.
00:36:04Right.
00:36:05But, um, if you're mad at someone, uh, be mad.
00:36:10If you feel angry at the people who took the shots, then be angry at
00:36:14the people who took the shots.
00:36:16I don't judge my impulses.
00:36:17I don't judge my emotions.
00:36:18I listened to them.
00:36:19I respect them.
00:36:20Doesn't mean I act on them.
00:36:21Right.
00:36:22Cause I have, I have the neofrontal cortex.
00:36:26I have the restraint thing and all of that.
00:36:27So yeah, I don't judge your emotions.
00:36:31Don't judge your impulses.
00:36:33I mean, if people hadn't taken the COVID shot, those of us who didn't
00:36:36wouldn't have lost half our rights.
00:36:39Right.
00:36:40So, so the people who took the shots, uh, fueled a kind of tyranny.
00:36:50And, and they're not, they're not apologizing.
00:36:55It's in the memory hole, which means trust is non-existent for me.
00:37:00Non-existent for me.
00:37:02If there was lots of mea culpus and lots of, well, we should have listened and
00:37:05we, we're sorry and like, okay, but it's just, it's going into the memory hole.
00:37:09Which means I don't trust people who take their absolutely corrupt deeds and
00:37:14flush them down the memory hole.
00:37:15I have no trust for people like that.
00:37:16I don't have them in my life.
00:37:17I wouldn't have them within a million miles of my heart, mind, and soul.
00:37:25No, I, and you know, this is an old Christian idea that let God take vengeance.
00:37:31Vengeance is mine.
00:37:32Sayeth the Lord, right?
00:37:33Let God take vengeance.
00:37:34It's not your job.
00:37:35And for the most part, again, I'm direct criminality.
00:37:39It's a different matter.
00:37:40But for the most part, it's like their, um, their conscience
00:37:45will do the job for you.
00:37:46It's not something that you really need to, uh, it's not something that you
00:37:50really need to focus on.
00:37:51Their conscience will do the job for you.
00:37:54Because when people ignore their own ill deeds, they lose the capacity
00:38:00to love and be loved.
00:38:02And the capacity to love and be loved is the greatest glory and
00:38:05greatest good in life.
00:38:09Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
00:38:16All right.
00:38:18Oh, cool.
00:38:20Background.
00:38:21I'm looking for something.
00:38:22So my camera's a little bit set up on the Brown side.
00:38:25So I'm looking for, um, I'm looking for backgrounds that are a little bit
00:38:34more on the Brown side.
00:38:36Although this, uh, 1950s vibe is pretty cool too.
00:38:42So yeah, if you can find me stuff a little bit more on the Brown side,
00:38:47I would appreciate that.
00:38:50All right.
00:38:51I did just pick one.
00:38:52I really did just pick one.
00:38:53I promise you.
00:38:55Nope.
00:38:56For some reason it didn't save.
00:38:58I appreciate those.
00:38:59Maybe I'll get them later.
00:39:00Oh, that's, oh, that's a nice Brown one.
00:39:01Sepenta.
00:39:02I appreciate that.
00:39:04That is a good library, man.
00:39:06That is a good library.
00:39:09Don't tell me it's changing where it's saved.
00:39:12That would be monstrous.
00:39:17Yeah, not bad.
00:39:19Not bad.
00:39:20Not bad.
00:39:21And if it is bad, uh, that's not on you.
00:39:25What do you think?
00:39:26Oh, I can almost, but the problem is there's a fire there.
00:39:29So, uh, it, it, it does crackle.
00:39:32It does not crackle.
00:39:33I suppose it does not crackle.
00:39:39Oh, that's nice too.
00:39:40It looks like I'm a floating head.
00:39:42I don't want to look like I'm two feet tall.
00:39:47If you save it that way.
00:39:51Yeah.
00:39:52And not bad.
00:39:53Not bad.
00:39:54I appreciate that.
00:39:55But yeah, if it's too low, then I look very short.
00:39:57It's got to be from that perspective, right?
00:40:01All right.
00:40:04Oh yeah.
00:40:05That's a nice one.
00:40:06The Bitcoin one.
00:40:07That is good.
00:40:09But that's, it's a little vertical.
00:40:11Actually, I'm kind of curious how it deals with portrait.
00:40:14How does it deal with portrait?
00:40:21That's quite vivid.
00:40:23It's good technology though, right?
00:40:26Maybe I'll do these for the Bitcoin shows.
00:40:28It's a little pixelated, but we can live with it.
00:40:30All right.
00:40:40Oh, that's a nice one too.
00:40:48All right.
00:40:49Last one for a bit, but I appreciate that.
00:40:54Not bad.
00:40:56I appreciate that.
00:41:00A little crickle crackle.
00:41:01Not bad.
00:41:02Not bad.
00:41:03All right.
00:41:05Your questions and comments.
00:41:12We had a show about never working for a boss that considers his employees family.
00:41:16Really good conversation.
00:41:17Yes, it's true.
00:41:19Yeah.
00:41:20Let God sort them out.
00:41:22Once you get older and you see the misery that people with a bad conscience are
00:41:25going through, like the emptiness, the emptiness is the worst than anything.
00:41:30I'd rather feel pain than numb.
00:41:32To me, it's kind of like, you know, you wake up from, if you've had a bad accident,
00:41:35you wake up and they put that ruler against your foot and can you feel it?
00:41:40When you want to be in pain, you don't want to feel nothing.
00:41:43Numbness is the most horrifying emotional sense of statelessness to be in.
00:41:48It's just monstrous.
00:41:49So, uh, sorry.
00:41:57Oh, um, there's a second part of a question, but I didn't get the first need
00:42:03another Bitcoin round table staff.
00:42:04Yeah.
00:42:05Maybe, maybe.
00:42:06Yeah.
00:42:10I asked a question in a donation I sent into the Sunday live stream.
00:42:15Did you get them on by chance?
00:42:18I may be already answered elsewhere.
00:42:20It was about my strong video game habit slash addiction.
00:42:24Well, I am sorry if I did not get to it.
00:42:27Uh, let me just do a search here and see.
00:42:30I assume that it had the word.
00:42:32Let me just do a search for a keyword here.
00:42:36Hey, I just want to search in there.
00:42:44And if you want to do it here, that would be very much appreciated.
00:42:48Ah, yes.
00:42:49Here we go.
00:42:50Hey Steph, you've given myself and other, uh, and others advice when it comes
00:42:53to quitting video game addictions.
00:42:55A lot of what you've said has helped a lot, especially achieve real life
00:42:58achievements over digital.
00:43:00However, I still find myself sucked into these things.
00:43:03I was practically raised on them.
00:43:04It was company to play video games over dealing with my family of origin.
00:43:08Hell, even as a teen, my mother would tell me to go play a game when I would
00:43:13get into conflicts with my father.
00:43:14Any advice on this would be greatly appreciated.
00:43:17Well, I'm happy to help.
00:43:19Of course.
00:43:20Happy to help.
00:43:21I've certainly enjoyed video games over the years, but how old are you?
00:43:28Just, just remind me if I don't know this, I apologize, but how old are you?
00:43:34How old?
00:43:38Oh, I may struggle into a chair here.
00:43:41I, um, I played a lot.
00:43:42I played two hours of pickleball last night and an hour and a half today.
00:43:45The old getaway sticks are a little, little tired.
00:43:4829.
00:43:49Okay.
00:43:50And are you married?
00:43:55Yes or no.
00:43:56Are you married?
00:44:08Uh, pain.
00:44:10I'd rather, I'd rather feel pain than nothing at all.
00:44:12True.
00:44:13But feeling love and peace beyond what the world offers is far better.
00:44:24Oh dear.
00:44:31Oh dear.
00:44:32Oh dear.
00:44:33My friend, you know, it's better to feel pain than nothing.
00:44:37Yes.
00:44:38Pleasure is better than that too.
00:44:39It's like, yeah, I get it.
00:44:40I get it.
00:44:43You know, if you're in a bad accident and they tickle your feet, it's probably
00:44:45better that you feel pain than nothing.
00:44:47Yes, that's true.
00:44:48But it's better to not be in the accident in the first place.
00:44:51It's like, yeah, no, I'm.
00:44:54I got it.
00:44:56I understand.
00:44:59You're going to have to listen.
00:45:01The high IQ audience people is a high IQ audience.
00:45:04And what that means is that you're going to have to work pretty hard to add
00:45:07value.
00:45:08Lord knows.
00:45:09I try to work pretty hard to add value.
00:45:10So, all right.
00:45:12Um, and Sapanta, what moral challenges are you currently engaged in?
00:45:26Are you trying to help someone be better?
00:45:28Are you fighting some immorality?
00:45:30Are you teaching people about peaceful parenting?
00:45:33Do you have a moral goal that you are striving to achieve
00:45:38in your life at the moment?
00:45:41I mean, when I met my wife, for example, when I met my wife, I was
00:45:47recently published and recently published my novel and I was working
00:45:50on writing new novels.
00:45:51And of course, my novels are sort of very moral.
00:45:53And I'm not obviously saying you have to be a novelist or anything like that.
00:45:56But do you have, this sounds like the Doge question.
00:46:00I want three moral achievements.
00:46:02Have you been in hot pursuit of over the last X amount of time, right?
00:46:09And it could be at work.
00:46:10It could be a hobby.
00:46:12It could be anything that you're doing anywhere that is adding to the good
00:46:16in society.
00:46:20Maybe you volunteer somewhere.
00:46:23Could be any number of things.
00:46:25Maybe you even post good ideas about virtue and philosophy on the web,
00:46:31on social media.
00:46:34Share what I do or what other people do that you respect.
00:46:37So what moral goals are you currently in pursuit of?
00:46:45And the reason I ask that is that fake achievement drives
00:46:48out real achievement.
00:46:49There's a sad truth in life, man.
00:46:51It's like if you're a pornography addict, you don't get a great woman.
00:46:56Like you just don't, right?
00:46:58She's probably even afraid to shake your hands because of it's vaguely sticky
00:47:01and overly firm grasp of hers.
00:47:03So video games are fake achievements and there's nothing wrong with that.
00:47:07I mean, when you practice, right?
00:47:10If you, if you've ever done a sport, right?
00:47:11You practice a lot.
00:47:13And when you practice, that's not a real achievement except you're
00:47:17achieving better expertise, right?
00:47:18So video games are fine.
00:47:19If they help you become better or more moral, whatever it is that you want
00:47:23to say, that's fine, but it's got to be for something, right?
00:47:28It'd be like forever practicing your serve and your backhand, which are the
00:47:31two things you usually need to work on in tennis, your serve and your backhand.
00:47:35So there's nothing wrong with pretend achievements, fake achievements,
00:47:47non-achievements in the service of a goal of a larger achievement.
00:47:50But where do your video games leave you?
00:47:52Where do your video games leave you?
00:47:54Okay.
00:47:55So he writes, I'm part of a men's volunteer group.
00:47:57That's based on personal career and community growth.
00:48:00We meet regularly.
00:48:01We set up volunteer events, do fundraisers and the like.
00:48:05That's the biggest one.
00:48:06I do a lot with the group.
00:48:08I recently recently took on a new role as a communications officer.
00:48:14Okay.
00:48:15Um, what are the, uh, you, you can email me the website if you want.
00:48:24Um, host H O S T at free domain.com, but, uh, a men's volunteer group that's
00:48:32based on personal career and community growth.
00:48:36And what does that mean?
00:48:39I don't know.
00:48:40I know I'm asking for a lot here and maybe this is part of a call then, but
00:48:43generally when you achieve real things in the world, video games get less interesting.
00:48:48And so if video games remain as interesting, my guess would be that
00:48:53you're not achieving as much as you want in the world as a whole.
00:48:59And that would be my, my guess that you're not achieving as much as you want
00:49:06to from a moral standpoint in the world as a whole.
00:49:10And I mean, Lord knows, I don't think we ever do like me.
00:49:14I don't think there's so much more we could do, but you kind of have to balance
00:49:17the work-life balance, right?
00:49:19So that would be my question.
00:49:24Why would you be so focused on fake achievements that don't
00:49:30lead to real achievements?
00:49:31Right?
00:49:32So again, there's nothing wrong with fake achievements, but they should
00:49:35really lead to real achievements.
00:49:37And if you have real achievements, fake achievements don't matter as much.
00:49:42You know, if, if you achieve some big moral goal, you have a confrontation, you have
00:49:46a victory, you have a win, something like that, you achieve something really
00:49:49positive and wonderful in your life.
00:49:54Do you want to go and collect another badge in Elton ring?
00:49:58Well, probably not.
00:50:02Probably not.
00:50:05So that would be my first thought about that.
00:50:12And obviously I don't know anything about your men's group.
00:50:15Uh, maybe it's very good.
00:50:16I certainly have, um, seen a lot of men's groups.
00:50:22Oh, that's interesting.
00:50:23It's like I've been embedded in time, time.
00:50:26So I have seen a lot of men's groups that are a little bit navel gazing, a little
00:50:30bit propping up and don't help men become great husbands and fathers.
00:50:36And again, yours may be very different or whatever it is, right?
00:50:39All right.
00:50:40Steph, is it just canvassing various areas?
00:50:42Sorry.
00:50:43It's just canvassing various areas.
00:50:45A good idea for asking women out while say they're at work or their customers.
00:50:51I don't like bars and the YMCA feels too close to home.
00:50:57The YMCA feels too close to home.
00:51:02I'm not sure what that means.
00:51:06I mean, I hate to say don't overcomplicate things because that's not
00:51:10really much of an argument.
00:51:11I'm putting the word over in, in, in front of complication doesn't really
00:51:15solve anything, but I would say go with the radical notion that if you like
00:51:19the girl, you can ask her out.
00:51:24Right.
00:51:25As opposed to what's the exact right place.
00:51:27And what, like, if you like the girl, ask her out.
00:51:34That would be my approach as opposed to, should I do it here?
00:51:37Should I do it there?
00:51:38Like if you have an access of girls that you really, really like, you probably
00:51:42don't have rigid enough standards or elevated enough standards.
00:51:54Oh yeah.
00:51:55Don't overthink things.
00:51:56Don't, don't overthink things.
00:51:57It's exhausting.
00:51:59All right.
00:52:00This guy wrote to Henry Chevlin.
00:52:07He says teaching ethics to undergrads in 2025 is bizarre because one,
00:52:15they insist morality is entirely relative and culturally constructed.
00:52:19Two, while simultaneously holding unshakable ethical convictions and
00:52:24viewing disagreements as moral monstrosity.
00:52:28Yeah, that's rough, man.
00:52:32And this woman wrote, I've had a lot of students who couldn't articulate why
00:52:36they held the ethical convictions they did, but we're entirely sure they were
00:52:39right.
00:52:40On the other hand, some could articulate exactly why the students who could do
00:52:43that were the most likely to accept that some people might not agree.
00:52:50Yeah.
00:52:51Yeah.
00:52:52So the purpose of propaganda is to give people conclusions that allow them to
00:52:58give people emotional conclusions that allow them to hate and attack.
00:53:03That's really all propaganda is about.
00:53:04It's a two minutes hate that comes out of 1984.
00:53:09So the purpose of propaganda is to give people emotional triggers that allow
00:53:15them or give them justification for hatred because most people don't feel
00:53:20particularly comfortable just hating others, right?
00:53:23They don't feel good about it.
00:53:25It makes them feel kind of gross and icky.
00:53:27So the purpose of propaganda, like the left doesn't really make arguments as a
00:53:31whole.
00:53:32And of course the right has its issues, right?
00:53:33We're just talking about these.
00:53:34So the left doesn't really make arguments.
00:53:35What the left does is it creates a bunch of really negative and hostile words,
00:53:42fascist, racist, Nazi, whatever it, they, they create this lexicon of
00:53:49verbal abuse and then just launch it at people who interfere with their
00:53:54preferences, right?
00:53:56It's not, not, and this is why it became sort of kind of boring to quote
00:54:02debate as you don't, you don't really get to debate at all.
00:54:08I don't debate.
00:54:09I don't debate.
00:54:24All right.
00:54:30The guy says, uh, Oh, about video games.
00:54:32That's a good point.
00:54:33I can't say I felt any real life achievement strong enough not to care about
00:54:38video games, something, some things do come close.
00:54:40Like this men's group working on my career, working out and looking for a
00:54:44girlfriend.
00:54:47Okay.
00:54:48Is working on your career fundamentally moral?
00:54:52Probably not.
00:54:53Is working out moral?
00:54:55Nope.
00:54:56Is looking for a girlfriend moral?
00:54:57I mean, hopefully you'll find a girlfriend and that has moral elements to it.
00:55:00But, uh, no.
00:55:02Particularly.
00:55:04So.
00:55:10He says in our group, in our group, we talk about and give advice for issues
00:55:14we have in our lives.
00:55:16Could be issues in marriage, people struggling in their career, trying to
00:55:19lose weight, how to be strong leaders and pretty much any issue men have in
00:55:22their lives.
00:55:23I'll send you an email about the group.
00:55:25Okay.
00:55:26So, I mean, it's good.
00:55:27It's good to, to talk about things, but.
00:55:30Through via what principles are things resolved or is advice given?
00:55:34Is it just, we listen, which is kind of neutral.
00:55:37So that would be my question.
00:55:38It doesn't really feel like there's enough morality there to.
00:55:46Really satisfy you.
00:55:49I mean, I would never, ever underestimate.
00:55:52I would never underestimate your capacity to do good in the world.
00:55:56Always think you can do more.
00:55:58I generally always think that I could try and do more and so on.
00:56:08Yeah.
00:56:09So how do we strong leaders?
00:56:10According to what principles, what does it mean to be a leader?
00:56:12I mean, these things are all, you know, tricky and complicated, right?
00:56:15So somebody says, I will volunteer.
00:56:17That over the last two years, I've been active in my church and twin goals of
00:56:20self-improvement and working on service to others.
00:56:22I try watching a few gaming streams in downtime and besides the lack of depth
00:56:25or character of those involved and besides the lack of depth, the character of
00:56:29those involved in the game, I try to give advice to others.
00:56:34So I tried to watch a few gaming streams.
00:56:36I'm not a strong leader.
00:56:37I know I'm not giving advice to others, but I try to give advice to others and
00:56:41character of those involved, and besides the lack of depth, the character of those involved
00:56:45leaves me dissatisfied and or bored after, say, 20 minutes, so many things like scripture
00:56:49or wholesome entertainment I find more fulfilling.
00:56:52If that helps anyone else make a choice, I am glad it brings me real peace and fulfillment.
00:56:56Oh my God, I, me, me, I, me, me, I, yeah, working on service to others, um, I mean,
00:57:05I think that's good, but service in what area, according to what good and something, it has
00:57:09to be measurable, has to be measurable.
00:57:14Whatever is measurable is subject to hedonism.
00:57:19If you can't measure it, then whether you feel good or bad about it, it's probably going
00:57:22to be the major thing that you're going to end up dealing with, right?
00:57:29I like it, I feel good about it or whatever, right?
00:57:37So oh, the original guy says, you're right, it's not based on principles.
00:57:41I'm not sure what that would be or how it would look like.
00:57:45It's a standard that when men give advice, it's from their own personal experience, not
00:57:49oh, I read this in a book once, I don't quite understand.
00:58:00When men give advice, it's from their own personal experience.
00:58:05Sorry, you have a men's group based on feelings and subjectivity?
00:58:09Uh, maybe this is why you're still doing video games, bro.
00:58:15Okay, what is a man's group supposed to mean?
00:58:18Let me open this up.
00:58:20What is a man's group, if it's going to be a man's group, focused on men's way of thinking
00:58:23and doing things?
00:58:27What is advice in a men's group supposed to be focused on?
00:58:37Let's take an engineering class because we're trying to engineer our lives.
00:58:42In an engineering class, do you say, well, I tried to build a bridge once and it fell
00:58:45down, I was sad about it.
00:58:49Nope.
00:58:53Men, men need to teach each other principles, facts, reason, evidence, and principles.
00:59:00That's what men need to be teaching each other, facts, reason, evidence, principles, virtues.
00:59:09It's a kind of false dichotomy to say, well, it's either my personal experience or I read
00:59:18this in a book once.
00:59:24Men get together to figure out how to get to the moon, and you don't get to the moon
00:59:27by talking about what you read in a book once or your own personal feels and experiences.
00:59:33He says, so if someone has an issue at work with a boss, advice should be given from a
00:59:42man who also had an issue at work with a boss instead of, hey, so-and-so author said you
00:59:48should deal with it like X.
00:59:49Well, what's the false dichotomy?
00:59:57You've got an issue with your boss, what's the most masculine thing that you could do?
01:00:05I'll give you a hint.
01:00:09Everything that is not honesty is manipulation.
01:00:14Well, you should handle it this way, and you should try this, and you should do that, and
01:00:18you should do the other.
01:00:19Everything that is not honesty is manipulation.
01:00:24Now, I understand that manipulation can occasionally, in an extremity, be a valid tool.
01:00:35So I've talked about a time when I had a guy who reported to me who was very rude and aggressive
01:00:40with me and undermining my authority because I had a team of like 35 people who worked
01:00:44for me was undermining my authority.
01:00:46And I went to my boss and I said, I'm going to fire him.
01:00:48He's like, well, you can't fire him.
01:00:49He's been here for a long time.
01:00:50And I said, yeah, but he's got a really bad temper and he's very disrespectful and he's
01:00:53kind of hostile and all of that kind of stuff.
01:00:55Right.
01:00:55And I can't work with the guy.
01:00:57And I've given him like two weeks and I've talked to him obviously personally, but he's
01:01:00just aggressive.
01:01:00He was an ex-military guy and just, I don't know, I bothered him for whatever reason it
01:01:04happens.
01:01:06And my boss just basically wouldn't give me the permission to fire him.
01:01:11And I said, okay, well, if I, if I can't fire him, then I'm not his boss.
01:01:15So you're his boss.
01:01:17So he should report to you.
01:01:19Well, you can't report to me.
01:01:19He's got to report to you.
01:01:20Then I have to be able to fire him.
01:01:21We just went round and round, right?
01:01:23So then all I did was I knew this guy had a bad temper.
01:01:26So I just, I was honest with him.
01:01:28I wasn't diplomatic, right?
01:01:30Even diplomacy can be a form of manipulation, although politeness is nice in life.
01:01:34But in a meeting I disagreed with the guy and I, you know, he got more upset and I
01:01:38didn't say, well, let's take this offline.
01:01:40I just kept disagreeing with him.
01:01:41And then eventually lost his shit and he got fired.
01:01:44I mean, so even that was honest.
01:01:46I just wasn't being diplomatic.
01:01:48I wasn't saying let's discuss this one-on-one outside of blah, blah, blah.
01:01:51Right.
01:01:51It's just like, no, I disagree.
01:01:53Here's why I think you're wrong.
01:01:54Here's the evidence that I have.
01:01:55And he got mad and said, no, I still disagree.
01:01:57You haven't addressed the evidence.
01:01:58You haven't made an argument.
01:01:59Getting mad is not working.
01:02:00It's not going to, I don't care about your feelings.
01:02:03I care about the success of the project.
01:02:04And here are the facts and eventually blew up.
01:02:06Right.
01:02:08So I'm not sure as men, we either tell the truth or we're slaves.
01:02:13That's all there is.
01:02:15Nothing else, nothing else.
01:02:20We either tell the truth or we're slaves.
01:02:27I didn't want to be a slave.
01:02:30I told the truth.
01:02:31I took the hits.
01:02:34I told the truth.
01:02:34I took the hits.
01:02:36I don't mind.
01:02:39I'm not saying it's fun.
01:02:40I'm not saying I'm above it all and indifferent, but I don't mind.
01:02:46That's the deal.
01:02:48So if someone has an issue at work with a boss, what advice?
01:02:55Cause if, if, if it's advice other than tell the truth, then you're
01:02:59just saying be manipulative and lie.
01:03:03Yeah.
01:03:06So do you have to have had the exact same experience or a similar
01:03:10experience to say to a man who's having trouble with an authority
01:03:14figure, tell the truth while I'm going to get fired if I tell the truth.
01:03:18Okay.
01:03:19Then don't tell the truth.
01:03:22But if you decide not to tell the truth, don't complain about it.
01:03:28Cause a lot, most people, when they're asking for advice and I listen, I say,
01:03:32I say, this is a guy who's had thousands of public conversations
01:03:35with people asking for advice.
01:03:36Most people, not everyone.
01:03:38Most people who are asking you for advice are desperately begging
01:03:42for one thing and one thing only.
01:03:48Tell me Steph, I'm begging you, begging you tell me how to fix this problem
01:03:56without having to be moral and tell the truth.
01:03:59Yeah.
01:04:01Tell me how to improve the situation without requiring for me gut-wrenching
01:04:05levels of integrity, which I'm scared of, which I understand.
01:04:08And I sympathize.
01:04:09I really do.
01:04:14Tell me how I eliminate or reduce or avoid this conflict without standing
01:04:22up for truth, reason, facts, and values.
01:04:26How do I fix my parent without telling the truth?
01:04:30How do I fix my marriage without telling the truth?
01:04:33How do I fix my job, my career, my friendships?
01:04:35How do I fix it all?
01:04:37Steph, give me a magic elixir that lets me fix things without telling the damn truth.
01:04:45But you can't because the moment you avoid the truth, you've emasculated
01:04:50yourself because slaves can't tell the truth.
01:04:53Slaves hate being slaves.
01:04:56Court toadies, courtiers can't tell the truth because they can't say to the
01:05:00King, I have no respect for you.
01:05:02Men who lust after women can't tell the truth to the women because they can't
01:05:08say, well, I don't really like you, but you've got a nice rack or whatever.
01:05:10Right.
01:05:11I don't really respect you, but right.
01:05:13They got a lie.
01:05:14Oh no.
01:05:15Tell me more.
01:05:16I'm so interested.
01:05:16Right.
01:05:17So I'm concerned that in this men's group, it's all like, okay, how do
01:05:22I solve my issue with my boss without being honest and telling the truth?
01:05:28And again, I understand diplomacy.
01:05:30I understand diplomacy.
01:05:33But, of course, I don't know how to do that.
01:05:36How do I solve my issue with my boss without telling the truth?
01:05:41And again, I understand diplomacy.
01:05:43I understand diplomacy.
01:05:44diplomacy, but if you choose not to tell the truth, there's no point complaining
01:05:55about the outcome, because the outcome is entirely predicated upon you choosing to
01:05:59not tell the truth, and I'm not even gonna nag people about not telling the
01:06:03truth, but let's not pretend that there's a solution to conflict that doesn't
01:06:08involve morality.
01:06:12Let's not pretend that there's a solution to conflict that doesn't
01:06:17involve telling the truth.
01:06:25It says so true, that or they just want to complain and have you sympathize
01:06:30without actually wanting to put any effort into fixing the problems they are
01:06:35complaining about.
01:06:39You have problems in your life exactly to the degree that you are willing to
01:06:45lie to yourself about lying. Let me say this again, it's really, really important,
01:06:49really important. You have problems in your life to the degree that you're
01:06:55willing to lie to yourself about lying.
01:07:00Or if you say, well, telling the truth is impossible, or I can't possibly, or
01:07:04whatever, you're just lying to yourself. You can always tell the truth. There's a
01:07:07price to be paid for telling the truth, and you can choose not to pay that price,
01:07:11that's fine. But if you say, well, I'd rather keep my
01:07:15hundred thousand dollar a year job by lying to my boss, by misrepresenting
01:07:20things to my boss, by not telling the truth to my boss, by lying by omission,
01:07:23I'd rather keep my job. Then you're being paid to lie, then just accept
01:07:26that. It's like you're like an actor, you're being paid to lie. I didn't
01:07:31actually say this, it's just, it's not me, I'm not actually a cop.
01:07:35Would you get mad? You know, they keep handing me money, and they tell me I
01:07:39have to pretend to be a cop, because I'm in season six of The Wire, or True Blue, or
01:07:45something with Nathan Fillion, right? Man, they keep, I don't even, these aren't
01:07:50even my words. Like, yeah, you're an actor, you're told to put, it's called a costume,
01:07:54it's not a uniform, it's a costume.
01:07:59They're paying you to fake emotions that aren't real, they're paying you to fake
01:08:04intensity that isn't there. But I just feel so false, like it's not, I'm not
01:08:11authentic, I'm not a cop, I don't really, I'm not in these situations, I'm not
01:08:14really sad, and they want me to cry, like, they're just asking me to lie. It's like,
01:08:17yeah, that's called being an actor. That's why Marlon Brando said acting is
01:08:22an empty and useless profession, because it hollows you out, because you lie for a
01:08:27living. Can you imagine an actor saying, how about I, I mean, I'm on this show,
01:08:37Grey's Anatomy, and they keep handing me these hospital outfits, but I'm not a
01:08:42doctor, and they keep wanting me to walk over here and say the same thing 13 times,
01:08:46I don't want to say, that's not my genuine, I don't really, I'm not a doctor,
01:08:50like, it's like, you're being paid to lie. What are you complaining about, that
01:08:53these aren't your words? You're being paid to lie. So if you've got to flatter
01:09:06your boss's ego, and manage his fanaties in order to pick up your 100k, don't lie
01:09:11to yourself about that, and say, yeah, I mean, I misrepresent things I like, but
01:09:15I'm well paid for it. At least you're not lying to yourself about lying, then.
01:09:23If you're with some woman, and you don't really like her, but she's sexy, and you're
01:09:26horny, and low brain is running your dick-napped existence, okay, then, don't at
01:09:31least lie, oh, yeah, she's the greatest thing, she's, you know, she may not seem
01:09:34that smart, but deep down, like, you're just looking to knock her flesh. That's
01:09:39all. Just don't lie to yourself about lying. That's all. Then you're totally lost.
01:09:45And then nobody with any brains is going to have any respect for you at all. So
01:09:50somebody's like, yeah, I got a really difficult boss, man. He really, he
01:09:53craps at me, he nags at me. It's like, have you talked to him about it? Have
01:09:57you looked for other work? Okay. No, I mean, I can't get another job that pays
01:10:02me nearly this much. It's like, okay, but then you're being paid to lie. So take
01:10:06your money, and don't complain about it. I don't understand, like, I just don't
01:10:10understand why people are like, I can't, I mean, you know, I've talked to a bunch
01:10:13of people in the show who work for their dad, right? It's like, yeah, but, you
01:10:16know, I can't get another job at this level. I have to work for my dad, but he's
01:10:19such a tyrant. It's like, well, you're being paid. You're being paid to shut up
01:10:25and do what your dad says. You're not a kid anymore. So you take the money. I
01:10:29don't know why you would complain. I can't get another job like the one my
01:10:34dad gave me. Okay. Then you're making an extra $50,000 a year by shutting up and,
01:10:40and lying by omission. Okay. So take your money. Don't complain about it. If you
01:10:49want to tell the truth, then take the $50,000 hit, go get some other job or
01:10:53whatever. Maybe you will. Maybe you won't. I don't know. But if you don't want to
01:10:56lie, like it's so weird to me that people get paid for stuff and then complain about
01:11:00it. Like when I was a waiter, I got paid to carry food out. It's like, I wouldn't
01:11:07be doing this if I wasn't paid. Like I wouldn't be just carrying food around in
01:11:11a restaurant for people. I wouldn't be asking them what they want and telling
01:11:14the people in the kitchen what to make. I wouldn't be writing this down. Like I
01:11:18wouldn't be telling them what the special it's like, I know that that's why
01:11:20you're getting paid.
01:11:26Well, you know, I, this is a pretty good job. It's close to home. I get some time
01:11:30off and it's good benefits, but my boss is difficult. It's like, oh yeah, you're
01:11:33getting paid for all of this bonus stuff. You know, take what you want and pay for
01:11:37it. I just find it kind of weird. I just find it kind of weird. Like, you know,
01:11:44people who don't exercise and eat too much and then they complain about being
01:11:48flabby and out of shape. It's like, you know, like I think of all the supplements
01:11:53that I take and have taken over the years, you know, it's like people saved all this
01:11:58money and all this time by not doing these supplements. Right. And they saved
01:12:05all of this time and money by not having a gym membership and not going to work.
01:12:09Yeah. Oh, kind of weak. And I pulled my muscle and it's like, I don't know, like
01:12:14what are you complaining about? You made your choices. I don't, uh, I don't do
01:12:22complaints. I'm actually, I'm trying to remember the last time that somebody
01:12:27complained to me in my personal life. Yeah. I can't, I can't remember the last
01:12:35time that someone complained to me in my personal life. I don't do that stuff.
01:12:45All right. Um, my employer could hide in the shadow of a corkscrew. Oh, that's
01:12:49nice. Okay. I get it. I do not invest any more thought or energy in the job than
01:12:55they invest in me. They probably are trying to push me out the door. I accept
01:13:00I may need a new one, new job, new boss, new door does not mean I will give them
01:13:05ammo. The owner's wife is the HR manager. I almost give them credit for being that
01:13:11open about who HR is there to serve, not even hiding it. So I live with it or
01:13:14leave it. Yeah. I mean, if you're being well paid to shut up in front of your
01:13:18boss, don't claim that you feel I'm, I'm just not expressed in my, that's like
01:13:22somebody being in a Shakespearean play and saying like, I don't even get to use
01:13:25my own language. I don't get to ad lib like, right. Cause you're in Shakespeare
01:13:28and nobody wants to hear you ad lib Shakespeare. Uh, the guy says the advice
01:13:35men get in this men's group varies a lot. It's a large group. There are definitely
01:13:39a few that would say, just be honest and tell the truth. However, the words virtue,
01:13:44morality, and ethics are scarcely mentioned. One guy asked me, what does
01:13:47virtue mean? He's never heard the term before, right? It's nerve wracking to
01:13:53quit a bad boss, especially if you're in your comfort zone, but it's very
01:13:56liberating feeling when you do.
01:14:02And if you want to know who's to blame for not getting fit, I'll
01:14:04open the front camera on the phone.
01:14:08Yeah. I just, I don't, I don't do complaints because you know, the way it
01:14:13always works with people who complain, right. At least in my personal life.
01:14:17Right. So the way it always works with people who complain is you just end
01:14:20up with the yes, but personality.
01:14:23Uh, it's so bad. This is so bad.
01:14:25Well, you could do this.
01:14:26Yeah, but you know, well, you could do that.
01:14:27Yeah, but you know, there's this problem in that, but I need to just end up
01:14:31frustrated, tired, exhausted, empty, and drained.
01:14:33I just bunch of vampires.
01:14:34Complainers are just vampires.
01:14:37Now, again, I'm not putting callers to me in this category because they're very
01:14:42much focused on finding solutions.
01:14:51But yeah, I complainers are energy drains.
01:14:54They're genuine vampires, genuine vampires.
01:14:57Ooh, I wanted to mention as well.
01:14:59Sorry for this distrust my mind.
01:15:00I have an event a Friday night, and normally I don't do events Friday
01:15:06night because I have the show, but the show is going to be 4 PM Friday.
01:15:09It's going to be 4 PM Friday.
01:15:12So just to keep you alert and aware, and I'm sorry if you can't make it, I do
01:15:17apologize, I do take these shows very seriously.
01:15:19I try to stick to the same schedule, but I could not.
01:15:25Somebody says I've had a lifetime of yeah.
01:15:26But yeah, like a guy who's with a woman because he just finds it
01:15:34sexually exciting or whatever.
01:15:35It's like, yeah, but she's not very stable.
01:15:37It's like, but you're getting your dick wet in the way that you like.
01:15:39I don't know what there is to complain about.
01:15:43I don't, I don't do complaints.
01:15:46I don't do complaints.
01:15:47I think it's a, I think it's an insult to free will for
01:15:50people to complain about things.
01:15:51You make your choices and take your consequences.
01:15:55You know, I mean the people who, you know, people who don't work out and eat
01:15:59poorly, they might make, they might be making a great decision.
01:16:05They might be making a great, like if there's a nuclear Holocaust, then at
01:16:10least they enjoy cheesecake and it's not like my endless sit-ups are going to do
01:16:14much to protect me from a nuclear blast.
01:16:16Right.
01:16:16So, you know, if they get hit by a bus, uh, then they might as well not have
01:16:24gone to the gym, right?
01:16:25Because they just get creamed and killed by, then they might as well have enjoyed
01:16:28themselves eating good food and not gone to the gym since they're going to die
01:16:31anyway, and the gym wouldn't save them.
01:16:33So they made a good decision, right?
01:16:35Making like not taking care of your health is a great decision.
01:16:39If for reasons unrelated to health, you don't live very long.
01:16:43Right.
01:16:44It's just, if you are going to live longer, then you want to treat yourself
01:16:48better, right?
01:16:49We understand that.
01:16:50Right.
01:16:50So I don't even mind the people who, you know, I, of course, I don't like that.
01:16:56You got to pay taxes to, to take care of all of these people.
01:17:00Oh, that's interesting.
01:17:01Like, Oh, it's really is focusing on me.
01:17:04So when I move away from the camera, does it, yeah, it kind of focuses on me.
01:17:09So when I move away from the camera, does it, yeah, it kind of fades out.
01:17:14And when I started, when I move away from the microphone, it's in the background.
01:17:20Wow.
01:17:20That's cool.
01:17:23So I can do the show with no microphone.
01:17:25I can't even tell you how much we used to work to keep the microphone
01:17:29out of frame in the past.
01:17:30I don't care anymore, but I used to care.
01:17:35Nice room.
01:17:36Yeah.
01:17:36It'd be nice, right?
01:17:37Maybe some, some lovely artists can create a great backdrop
01:17:40with free domain stuff on it.
01:17:42That would be cool.
01:17:43All right.
01:17:43Any other last questions, comments, issues, challenges, problems?
01:17:48Do give me your problems.
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01:17:54Uh, and I'm sorry.
01:17:55I'm a, I'm a smidge.
01:17:56I wouldn't say under the weather, but I'm certainly feeling a little tired
01:17:58tonight for a variety of reasons.
01:18:00I slept well last night, but I've just had a very crazy active day.
01:18:04Active day.
01:18:05And, uh, sorry if my energy was a smidge low, I'm not sure it was super
01:18:09wise to do the backdrop stuff, but it was kind of fun and cool to do.
01:18:12So I just kind of enjoyed it.
01:18:14It was a nice, uh, I had a question at the start.
01:18:17Oh yes.
01:18:17Thank you about that.
01:18:18Sorry about that.
01:18:19Something about seed oils, right?
01:18:22Uh, so my diet is good, man.
01:18:24Uh, I eat almost no processed food.
01:18:26Uh, my wife is very much a, uh, just put your, um, put your question in here.
01:18:32If you, if you don't mind, again, uh, rolling back, can
01:18:35I even get back to this?
01:18:36Not we're going back to the stone.
01:18:41Can I page up or do I, yeah, if I have to do it, I have to do it by
01:18:45rolling on the scroll mouse wheel.
01:18:48Uh, that's going to take a week or two.
01:18:49I don't page up.
01:18:50Doesn't seem to be working.
01:18:51I'm afraid.
01:18:53Oh, Oh wait, page up.
01:18:55I managed to do it.
01:18:55All right.
01:18:56I think I can get your question.
01:18:57Say it, spit it out.
01:18:59All right.
01:19:01Hi, Steph, regarding your, my history with hunger presentation.
01:19:04Have you tried cutting seed oils out of your diet for a month or two to see
01:19:08how you get on, e.g.
01:19:09vegetable oil, rape seed oil, sunflower oil, et cetera.
01:19:13Basically anything other than olive oil, avocado oil, butter, ghee.
01:19:17If you've not tried this, I highly recommend trying it out.
01:19:19Especially, uh, specifically if you are interested in visceral fat and food
01:19:23cravings, a presentation on your diet.
01:19:24Would be very interesting.
01:19:25Oh, okay.
01:19:26Uh, I will, um, I don't do much of my own food.
01:19:29My wife and my daughter are very keen cooks and chefs, so I appreciate that.
01:19:35And I will take that under advisement.
01:19:37I don't think I have, um, the stuff if at all that you're talking about, but I will
01:19:44double check with the boss of the outfit and I will, uh, I'll let you know.
01:19:50So I appreciate that.
01:19:50It's a great question.
01:19:51Uh, have you heard of influencer campaigns that rampant on X these days?
01:19:58Um, I mean, I know what influencer campaigns are.
01:20:02I don't know.
01:20:03Like you mean people getting money to take particular political
01:20:06perspectives or opinions?
01:20:10Uh, yes.
01:20:10Uh, I'm, I do understand that.
01:20:12I'm not a big fan of influencer campaigns, but I'm not a big fan of
01:20:16, uh, yes, uh, I'm, I do understand that.
01:20:22I know that the left was throwing money at people, um, over the 2020 election,
01:20:262024 election, throwing money at people to run particular narratives.
01:20:30But, um, I, um, I have heard about it and I'm, I don't
01:20:35really know much, much about it.
01:20:38All right.
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