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00:00We are going to Bahía Blanca and we are already in communication with Cristian Bolado of Cruz Roja.
00:05Cristian, good morning, thank you for your time. Eduardo Batalla greets you.
00:10How are you? Good morning to you too.
00:12Well, let's see, a state of situation, what can you define for us about how this moment is going, the day after?
00:19Well, we are still in Bahía Blanca in an emergency situation.
00:23In some neighborhoods, rescue and evacuation tasks continue, as is the case of Engineer White.
00:29We are working in CERRI, a place where the rescue operations ended early this morning
00:37and the family is currently accompanying Cristian.
00:41On the way home, there are some people with first aid care,
00:48partially starting this whole post-disaster recovery process,
00:54while simultaneously in other areas we are working on the emergency response.
00:58Cristian, to review some numbers at this time of the morning, the number of evacuees?
01:05The number of evacuees, we have two different numbers.
01:10One is the number of evacuees, those who are in the center of the evacuation,
01:16from the municipality of Lugares, which adds up to 100 self-evacuees,
01:21that is, they were supported by firefighters, by rescue units, by the civil defense, by municipal organizations.
01:29They were taken to a safe place and from there they were transferred to family homes.
01:33That number is not quantified, but there are thousands of people who are under this condition,
01:37today temporarily living in the home of a relative.
01:41Cristian, thank you for your testimony from there.
01:45See you later.
01:47Let's go with Leo Godoy.
01:49Leo, where are you from in the city of Bahia Blanca?
01:53Well, we are, Edu, in the neighborhood of Las Cañitas,
01:56where, well, here you see the same desperate neighbors at this time,
02:02because there is an emergency situation.
02:05We just saw part of the police and the ambulance arrive, but they do not know where to enter.
02:10There is a family that is in emergency at this time.
02:13This is the marriage of a 91-year-old grandfather who has a little hypothermia.
02:18He is a person who is postrated, disabled, and with the lady alone in the house.
02:23Where is he?
02:24Guaura, 3960.
02:26We were calling yesterday morning, amphibians, the army, civil defense, 911.
02:31911, yes.
02:32They have a single family in Buenos Aires, who is calling from Buenos Aires, but no one answers.
02:38Come, accompany me a little.
02:40How far away are we from the place where ...?
02:44A block, more or less.
02:47Where the giant trees are, there, part of ...
02:51Where is that person walking now?
02:54On the street in front, where the big trees are.
02:57The delegation came yesterday ...
03:01The delegation came to try to help, but the machines were stuck.
03:05That's why we were calling the army, but we don't have an answer from anyone.
03:08And the marriage is alone.
03:10He is alone with everything, wet.
03:1291 years.
03:1391 years.
03:14Yes.
03:15The situation is dramatic.
03:16He had ...
03:17Yes.
03:18How far did the water get him?
03:19To the bed.
03:20He is wet to the bed.
03:2150 centimeters.
03:23Well, you are without boots, without anything.
03:27And now that the machinery has passed and that, and ...
03:30Yes, there are more, playing over there too.
03:33Did they lift the bed?
03:35Yes, we lift the bed with a drum of 200 liters.
03:38And yes, it is at a height of one meter and a half, more or less, the bed.
03:42That is, you had to lift this man's bed ...
03:45Yes, with the neighbors.
03:46Because it was at risk.
03:47With the help of the neighbors, yes, yes.
03:49And now, at this moment, the whole house is ...
03:53The house is wet and, well, the issue of the cloaks and all that is all ...
03:58All the water is being mixed, let's say.
04:01And well ...
04:02It's very cold, the temperature is going down a lot.
04:05Well ...
04:06I slept one night to see that happen and ...
04:09Well, here and there, the boots, it's done.
04:12The water entered us.
04:14Let's look, let's continue to look.
04:17The boots, it's done.
04:19The water entered us.
04:20Let's look, let's keep moving.
04:22Look at the panorama, this emergency,
04:25that the ambulance still does not find where to enter.
04:30I tell you, yes, it will necessarily have to be with a boat.
04:34At this moment, Edu, look, we are with ...
04:37We already sacrificed the boots, but hey, the emergency demands it.
04:44It is necessary for a boat to come, because it already surpassed us.
04:49Look, look, the level of the dog where it is.
04:53In this case, this pet.
04:54Look at the car of this house too, which was under the water.
05:03Two cars.
05:04The bottom, to the bottom, is living ...
05:06Well, there are other dogs coming out too.
05:08But hey, the emergency is put on this 90-year-old man, Edu.
05:13They begin to discover, right?
05:15That kind of situation.
05:17We have no answer, more than anything, to the neighbors.
05:20Beyond the problems they have, because we are all ...
05:24They lost everything, practically.
05:26And if you look at that, they helped us, let's say.
05:31The neighbors are trying to help.
05:34And they were able to lift this man's bed.
05:36Let's see, let me show you this too,
05:39so you can see the dimension of what we are talking about.
05:42We are already in the middle of the water, look.
05:44I'm going to enter a house, Edu.
05:46Look.
05:48Let's see.
05:49The car, the bicycle, the armchair.
05:52Look.
05:53That was dragged, look.
05:55Look where the armchair was.
05:58There they are trying to save some of the things.
06:00Can I come in?
06:04Excuse me.
06:07Walk carefully, Edu.
06:08We are in the middle of the desolation, Edu, of this woman.
06:15There we have some difficulty with the signal.
06:17Let's see.
06:18Let's see now.
06:19No, the truth is not.
06:20There are no words for this, guys.
06:22Sincerely, I always see it on television, but ...
06:28The only thing I ask is that, I don't know, that the authorities of the bay,
06:31or I don't know, that they take us out of the water in some way,
06:34that they come to do a work.
06:36We have everything under water.
06:41This is my sister-in-law's house.
06:43I live next door.
06:44The truth is that I have the mattresses floating,
06:47the refrigerator floating.
06:49We have everything under water.
06:52The truth is that I don't ...
06:55No, look, look, Edu.
06:56Leo, it is necessary ...
06:57Look, looking at this image and the woman who broke into tears,
07:01it is necessary that someone who is listening,
07:04who is watching us,
07:05to see if we can get a boat,
07:08if some authority takes this that one of the neighbors just said,
07:13the desperation of the people,
07:15any type of boat that serves to get people out
07:18and also to get some belongings that were saved.
07:21We lost everything.
07:23Everything.
07:24My brother.
07:25All the neighbors who are here.
07:27Everything, everything, everything.
07:29We lost everything.
07:30They lost everything.
07:32I don't know who is going to help us.
07:33I hope they will help us.
07:36There is the mark.
07:38There is the mark.
07:40There it is.
07:41And in the background there is more water.
07:43Deeper.
07:46Let's see if I can talk to her, Leo.
07:48In an hour everything was flooded.
07:50From 6 to 6 in the morning I already had the water here,
07:53at 7 here,
07:55and at 9 I had to go.
07:57The neighbors on that side did not flood.
08:00Thank God the water did not come in and they rescued us.
08:03We were there until late and then we had to go.
08:06Nobody came to help us.
08:08I called 911.
08:09I called the municipality of Bahia Blanca.
08:11Nobody.
08:12Nobody came to drain the water.
08:15Let's see.
08:16I'm going to try.
08:18Imagine.
08:19Yes, but I know that the conditions are completely adverse, Leo.
08:23That's why I'm talking to you as soon as possible.
08:25I would like to talk to the woman.
08:27And if you want,
08:29we have a better signal.
08:32Let's see.
08:33You have two children.
08:35Come a little.
08:37Up to here.
08:38I ask you for the signal so we can hear it.
08:42There we are fine.
08:43Edu, tell me.
08:44Yes, yes.
08:45What is your name?
08:46There are no works here.
08:47My name is Federico.
08:49There are no works here.
08:50It is a totally abandoned neighborhood.
08:52Totally abandoned by the municipality of Bahia Blanca.
08:55Not only because there is a management that went up a year ago,
08:58but because of the previous management.
09:00Here what they did in this sector precisely,
09:02because what is under the water is all this apple.
09:06Yes, yes.
09:07It is seen.
09:08Why?
09:09To save another neighborhood.
09:10What did they do?
09:11They went down the street here.
09:12Then the water from both the road,
09:13from Calle Indiana,
09:14which we are three blocks away,
09:15and from the other neighborhood,
09:16everything falls here.
09:17It is clear.
09:18That's why the whole apple is flooded.
09:19It is clear and that's why Federico.
09:20The whole apple is flooded.
09:21Federico, that's why we encourage the authorities
09:24to come closer,
09:25to give them a hand.
09:26And what is the name of the lady, Leo?
09:29What is the name of the lady who is next to Federico?
09:32Let's see if we can talk to her.
09:35I am blocked.
09:38A truck with a bomb,
09:39it can't come.
09:40Hello.
09:41What is your name?
09:42Hello.
09:43Hello, what is your name?
09:44Julieta.
09:45Julieta.
09:46Julieta.
09:47You are overflowing.
09:48We just saw you and the truth is,
09:50we want to put ourselves in your place.
09:52I am blocked because,
09:54because 10 years ago I lived here
09:56and it was a huge effort,
09:58a huge effort.
10:02I don't know,
10:03we don't have vacations because
10:05we don't go on vacation to be able to do other things.
10:08We forbid ourselves a lot of things
10:10to be able to finish the house in conditions.
10:13And this comes and I say,
10:15it can't be.
10:16First, on December 16, last year,
10:18the wall was overturned.
10:20This is fine.
10:21This is nothing.
10:23That just now,
10:27That is, all the effort,
10:28all the effort,
10:29under the water.
10:31All the effort was under the water.
10:33Yes, exactly.
10:34Exactly.
10:35Exactly.
10:36You don't know what it was to see the refrigerator float,
10:38the bed float,
10:40because the water doesn't drain,
10:41the water doesn't come out,
10:42the water doesn't come out.
10:46Now,
10:47there we see,
10:48if you allow me,
10:49above the ceiling,
10:51there are the mattresses.
10:53Yes, we just saw them.
10:55It is another image that graphics
10:57what is happening.
10:59I see you every morning.
11:01How did you tell me?
11:05I see Canal Este every morning.
11:07I listen to them.
11:08And I didn't think they would be here.
11:11Because they are the only ones.
11:12A ambulance just came
11:14and stopped here two blocks away.
11:16As there is a man in the other block
11:18who is postponed,
11:20no one comes from the municipality to get him out.
11:22My brother had to go yesterday to pick up the man
11:24because he was going to drown,
11:26because he is postponed.
11:28So, until now,
11:29they are helping each other.
11:31And they tell you,
11:32yes,
11:33because there is no other.
11:35There is no other.
11:36There is no other.
11:37We help each other,
11:38now we are going to get him out here,
11:39then we go to my brother's,
11:40then we go to my father's,
11:41and so on.
11:42A chain of aid.
11:43Now, tell me how it was.
11:44It's been years.
11:45Yes.
11:46And this is a sector
11:47totally forgotten in the city.
11:48In fact,
11:49the Indian Route was demolished.
11:51It is three blocks away.
11:52The water comes here.
11:54The neighborhood,
11:55here,
11:56we don't belong to Las Cañitas.
11:58These three apples...
11:59An important purchasing power exchange.
12:01Not us.
12:02We fell here because...
12:04Because we fell.
12:05For the rest of our lives we fell here.
12:06But what happens?
12:07The neighborhood,
12:08so that it doesn't flood there,
12:09the neighborhood,
12:10so that it doesn't flood there,
12:11Las Cañitas,
12:12and so that it doesn't flood there,
12:13what did they do?
12:14They dug a well.
12:15In the middle of the well.
12:16They dug a well.
12:17Exactly.
12:18Because the machine,
12:19the day it came,
12:20five years ago,
12:21which was the last time it came,
12:22until then.
12:23Listen to me,
12:24we are in the 21st century...
12:25We did the procedure and...
12:26There it is.
12:27But,
12:28tell me a little bit.
12:29Look,
12:30we are turning around.
12:31There is a family in front.
12:32Look,
12:33there are the children.
12:34In front.
12:35In front.
12:36In front.
12:37In front.
12:38In front.
12:39In front.
12:40In front.
12:41In front.
12:42In front.
12:43In front.
12:44In a place a little higher,
12:45and where they are going to...
12:46a shelter where to keep something
12:47of what was left.
12:48The mattress that was left
12:49on the...
12:50How?
12:51How?
12:52How?
12:53Because the water level
12:54reached...
12:55Yes,
12:56yes,
12:57yes,
12:58yes,
12:59yes,
13:00we were desperate,
13:01blocked,
13:02because the water
13:03kept coming up
13:04and up
13:05and up
13:06and up
13:07and you say,
13:08what are you doing?
13:09You don't want to go
13:10and leave ten years,
13:11ten years of effort.
13:12Now,
13:13tell me,
13:14tell me how it was
13:15when it started
13:16to grow,
13:17to grow the water,
13:18when the water
13:19started to grow.
13:20Look,
13:21I got up
13:22at five
13:23and I had a dropper,
13:24because,
13:25obviously,
13:26I fixed it
13:27and the dropper
13:28fell again
13:29and fell again.
13:30Well,
13:31I got up,
13:32put the towel
13:33and I went to bed,
13:34but I couldn't sleep.
13:35It rained,
13:36but it rained
13:37very hard,
13:38very hard.
13:39And at six in the morning
13:40I get up
13:41and I say,
13:42I'm going to go
13:43to the barn
13:44in the back
13:45because I imagined
13:46there would be water
13:47because of the way
13:48it rained
13:49there would be water.
13:50And I get up
13:51and I already had
13:52the water
13:53in my heels.
13:54I get up
13:55and my husband,
13:56he came to work
13:57because we,
13:58I am a domestic employee,
13:59my husband is
14:00a bus driver,
14:01we don't have
14:02a job
14:03in the municipality
14:04or in the polo
14:05or anywhere.
14:06I mean,
14:07we are employees,
14:08workers
14:10and,
14:11and nothing,
14:12there is despair
14:13and being able
14:14to work
14:15in the barn
14:16that we don't have.
14:17That's what I was going
14:18to ask you,
14:19didn't you think
14:20that everything
14:21was going to happen?
14:22No.
14:23We have made
14:24the river drains.
14:25We have made
14:26the canals
14:27all with the
14:28river drains
14:29from the canyons
14:30to here.
14:31But what happens?
14:32I had to block
14:33because every time
14:34it rains
14:35the water
14:36comes in
14:37through the canyon
14:38and since the
14:39mother canyon
14:40is in the corner
14:41What could you
14:42save from?
14:43Because I see
14:44the bicycle,
14:45the doors,
14:46everything.
14:47Everything is wet,
14:48the table,
14:49everything.
14:50I don't want to go
14:51to the barn
14:52because it can't
14:53be opened
14:54because it is
14:55stuck,
14:56I don't know
14:57if it is going
14:58to drain,
14:59if it is going
15:00to come out,
15:01when is the
15:02water going
15:03to come out,
15:04the car is
15:05all wet,
15:06nothing.
15:07Nobody tells us
15:08anything,
15:09nobody appears,
15:10nobody,
15:11nobody,
15:12nobody,
15:13not even
15:14the municipality,
15:15not even the
15:16civil defense,
15:17not even the
15:18police,
15:19nothing.
15:20But here,
15:21as I am,
15:22there are parts
15:23of the city
15:24that are
15:25in the streets
15:26sunk,
15:27sunk.
15:28And do you have
15:29a relative
15:30in the area,
15:31in some area
15:32where it is not
15:33flooded,
15:34like for what
15:35you were able
15:36to go?
15:37I had not
15:38brought anything,
15:39I left last night
15:40and I will be
15:41about 30 blocks
15:42away.
15:43Of course but
15:44you can leave
15:45by boat from
15:46there.
15:47You have to
15:48call an Uber
15:49or a taxi,
15:50yes,
15:51you have no
15:52signal,
15:53you cannot
15:54communicate
15:55with anyone,
15:56nothing,
15:57we are totally
15:58desolate.
15:59Yes,
16:00tell me
16:01how is
16:02your family?
16:03Tell me
16:04how is your
16:05Thank God, one of the kids, both of them, didn't get into the water or anything.
16:10But, well...
16:11And what do the kids say? What do the kids say about this?
16:14Look, there's the tender.
16:15Well, there's nothing. There's no light, no internet, no connection.
16:17And my daughter...
16:19My daughter was...
16:20The only thing that worried her was the folder and the school backpack.
16:25Of the utensils.
16:26But, well...
16:28They don't have the capacity of the disaster that happened.
16:35That one lost everything.
16:37They're going to fall at some point when the water goes away.
16:40Without a doubt.
16:41You know, I see you, I look at you and I say...
16:45And you're going to fight and you're going to get her out.
16:47You're going to be able to get out of this situation.
16:49Yes, I think so.
16:50I'm afraid the house will collapse because I know there are people whose houses have collapsed.
16:56And who laughs because there are people who must be worse than us.
17:00And without...
17:01They don't even have to have a roof because their house has collapsed.
17:06I don't know. I don't know.
17:10You imagine that we are left without the house.
17:13Well, maybe if the water goes away you can rescue it.
17:16You can start again.
17:18But there are people who stay without the house.
17:20Where are you going?
17:21That the municipality is going to give them the house.
17:22Is someone going to give them a new house?
17:24No.
17:26No one.
17:27What do you do for a living?
17:28If they don't come to rescue you, let's see if...
17:30I'm a domestic worker.
17:33I've been a domestic worker for 10 years.
17:35In fact, I want to call my boss to tell her that instead of him, because I haven't taken a vacation yet,
17:41to take me a week off to see what we can do.
17:46And tell him, look...
17:47I can't communicate, but I know he won't have a problem.
17:51Maybe he's looking at you.
17:53He won't have a problem.
17:54I know that whatever I tell him, she will understand.
17:57So...
17:58Nothing.
17:59But well, we are not...
18:01Waiting for someone to come and give us a hand.
18:04Does she live in an area that has flooded?
18:05She is not flooded.
18:06Yes, she lives here, 15 blocks away.
18:08No, no, no.
18:09Tell her, take advantage of the fact that we are live.
18:11Maybe she is looking at you.
18:13It's a good thing to have a hand, right?
18:18Yes, I know there are going to be people.
18:20There are going to be people who are going to help us.
18:22The less desperate people are going to be.
18:27What things went up and what is left to go up to the terrace?
18:31Tell me a little bit.
18:32What are they saving?
18:33We have the mattresses, the flat doors, the mattresses.
18:38I don't know if it's going to dry.
18:40I hope it doesn't rain.
18:42I hope it doesn't rain because the sky is kind of weird.
18:46And we hope it doesn't rain for several days.
18:50And wind.
18:51And wind.
18:52You know that the wind, with the water that fell, the trees are going to start to fall.
18:57I don't know what's going to happen.
19:00And the water is at the same level?
19:02Because you were just telling us that it doesn't go down, right?
19:04As if the water were parked.
19:05No, it went down, it went down.
19:07How much has it gone down? 20 centimeters?
19:09From there to there.
19:1020 centimeters.
19:1120.
19:1220 centimeters.
19:13Now, there is the mark.
19:15In the house is the mark.
19:17Look, if you focus, there is the mark.
19:20And that went down from when it stopped raining at 5 in the afternoon to today.
19:25Good, good.
19:26I thank you very much.
19:27Look at the edge of the pot, Edu.
19:29Yes, let's see.
19:30There you can see, look.
19:31The mark.
19:32There is the level.
19:33But the pot, of course.
19:34That's the level.
19:35Yes.
19:36That is, it didn't go through the window, it was a few centimeters short, nothing more.
19:40And it covered half the house.
19:42As is.
19:43As is.
19:44Well.
19:45And look, my brother's is the same.
19:46And look again, where are those older people?
19:49Where do they live?
19:50How far from your house?
19:54Let's see.
19:55And here is the line.
19:56Repeat.
19:57Edu, again.
19:58Repeat, let's see.
19:59I can't.
20:00Well, there are some difficulties.
20:02Repeat, Edu, please.
20:03Yes.
20:04I mean, where does this couple of older adults live?
20:07Close to your house?
20:09It's about 100 meters from where we were, more or less.
20:13The ambulance, I don't know, got to the other corner and turned around.
20:18Yes.
20:19I know the difficulties are many here.
20:21The ambulance did not come.
20:22But I say, you can get there walking.
20:23I say, I insist on this, right?
20:25If there was a boat.
20:26Yes, yes, we can walk.
20:27In the municipality, a boat, a kayak, I don't know, at least to move.
20:32Yes.
20:33To move to the place, see how they are, see if they are at least well.
20:38They made two drums.
20:39No?
20:40Let's see what it says.
20:42He put some drums, you see.
20:44To lift the bed.
20:45They are 20 liters, the gas ones.
20:46Yes, 200 liters.
20:47To lift the bed and well, there was the man.
20:50I was not, it was my brother, but I don't know.
20:55Look, look, there is the neighbor who takes out a pet.
20:59Look, what a scene, how desperate, right?
21:03It's all important.
21:04Yes, because, well, the pets, the furniture, life.
21:07I don't know, three hours, four hours that everything was flooded.
21:11You lost everything.
21:12Yes.
21:13Maybe, yes, you can rescue, but ...
21:15Good, good.
21:16Nothing, I just gave a smell of humidity, a smell of everything, everything.
21:22I send you a kiss from here, thank you for your word.
21:26And you will be able to ...
21:27Thank you for coming, because you are the only ones who were here.
21:29Well, count on us.
21:32I send you a kiss.
21:33Leo.