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Aired (March 7, 2025): Ang showbiz actress at beauty pageant titleholder na si Maria Isabel Lopez, inilahad ang kaniyang rules and secrets sa kaniyang karera, personal na buhay, at pag-ibig. Panoorin ito sa video.


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00:00Welcome to Fast Talk with Boy Abundo.
00:23So Dizzy W, welcome to the program.
00:27I'm excited because we have a very special guest.
00:31When you hear her name, a few words come to mind.
00:36Beautiful, intelligent, never lags behind.
00:40And she is, she is, she's a born raconteur, they say.
00:46Please welcome, Maria Isabel Lopez.
00:50So good to have you here.
00:59Maraming maraming salamat.
01:00Thank you very much.
01:01Kumusta?
01:02Very good.
01:03Yeah.
01:04I know.
01:05I'm doing good.
01:07Ang sarap lang pakinggan.
01:08Alam niyo po off cam, sinabi sakin Isabel, I'm not 62, I'm 67.
01:17How do you maintain?
01:20Because it's not just about what we see from the outside, meron ding kinalaman ang loob.
01:26You know, diet and exercise, it's a given, kuya boy, pero ang mahalaga kasi when you're
01:31especially in the later years of your life, you become more spiritual, you do meditation,
01:37you do yoga.
01:39When you're younger, of course, you party, you go out, but then when you're older, the
01:43activities are different.
01:44And you do all these?
01:45Yes.
01:46You do yoga?
01:47Yes.
01:48Meditation?
01:49Yes.
01:50Meditation is a very spiritual journey.
01:51Correct.
01:52You have one of my works.
01:53I'm so honored.
01:54I'm a proud owner of one of the paintings of Maria Isabel Lopez, and thank you.
02:00That is an honor.
02:01Ngayong hapon po ang pag-uusapan po natin dahil pagkakasyahin po natin sa 20 minutes
02:06ang aming pag-uusap because you can talk to Isabel for nine days straight.
02:10Ayang mga bata sa buhay, mga bata sa may kinalaman po sa karera, sa buhay, sa pag-ibig.
02:16Ipag-implisahan natin sa bata sa pagiging kabogera, in a good way, okay?
02:22Ano ba ang aming iisipin pag gusto mong maging kabogera?
02:26Ano ang batas?
02:28Ang number one rule d'yan is prepare for it.
02:31Ah, you do prepare for it?
02:33Yes.
02:34Like when I was at the Cannes Film Festival red carpet in 2016, naka-juice cleanse ako
02:39for two weeks.
02:40Yeah.
02:41Okay.
02:42Pagkatapos.
02:43Yeah.
02:44I thought you look stunning.
02:45Number two rule, it's because I believe na the spirit has a lot to do with your aura.
02:52Everyone's beautiful, no?
02:54Pag nasa Cannes Film Festival ka lahat yan, mga sikat, magaganda, they're all dressed
02:58to kill.
02:59But what makes the difference is you have to make sure your aura shines.
03:03So, batas number two is focus on your spiritual self, not just the physical, not just the
03:09makeup, not just the clothes, you know?
03:11Okay.
03:12Wow.
03:13Yeah, it's the aura.
03:14So, number three rule ko is make sure your smile is real.
03:17Hindi yung smile na talagang naka-smile nga yung lips mo, tapos yung mata mo hindi naman
03:21nakangiti.
03:22It has to be a total smile.
03:24Tingnan natin tong litratong ito.
03:26Do we have this?
03:27There.
03:28Tingnan mo naman.
03:29It's real.
03:30Ini-scrutinize talaga.
03:31The cast, diba?
03:32And the creative staff of Marosa, naalala ko ito.
03:35Yeah.
03:36Pero tingnan mo naman si Isabel.
03:38Pati yung pose.
03:39Did you practice it?
03:40Did you know how to pose with a gown?
03:41No, I'm a model.
03:42Correct.
03:43Si model ako nung araw.
03:44Correct.
03:45Hindi naman ako high fashion model.
03:46No, but kakaiba din.
03:47Yeah.
03:48Kakaiba din.
03:49Pero if you notice, merong gap, no?
03:51That's rule number four.
03:53Don't let anybody step on your train.
03:56Ang ganda.
03:58May may gap dito, diba?
04:02Yes.
04:03Na para bagang this is my space.
04:05Yes.
04:06Kinda offensive to the rest of the cast.
04:08I'm sorry about that.
04:09That's the business.
04:10Pero that's the way it is.
04:13Iwanan natin ang pagiging kabugera.
04:15Batas naman pagdating sa pagiging matapang.
04:19Ah.
04:20Talk about it.
04:21Batas na yun.
04:22Batas na yun for me maging matapang.
04:24Kasi when you're young, parang you don't have that much voice.
04:28I grew up in a family na, you know, separated ng parents.
04:32Tapos every time that you need something for your school,
04:36you need to buy something, laging nakabudget yan,
04:39you have to fight for it.
04:40Pero may mga laban ka bang pinagdaana na natalo ka,
04:44na umiyak ka, na umatras ka, tumakbo ka, palayo?
04:47Kuya boy, I will not be a success kung hindi ako naging failure.
04:52Yeah.
04:53Isabel Lopez is a product of so many failures in her life.
04:57That's why naging ganito.
04:58The biggest failure that you went through?
05:00Well, too many failures to mention.
05:03Ang dami, no?
05:04Yes.
05:05Puntahan natin ang mga batas pagdating naman sa mga lalaki.
05:08Marami-raming batas yan.
05:09Back to lang ang 20 minutes natin.
05:11Okay.
05:12Punta lamang tayo sa ilan sa mga batas pagdating sa men.
05:17Okay.
05:18Number one rule is, unstable na nga ang artista.
05:22Wag ka nang kumuha ng isa pang unstable.
05:25Okay.
05:26So, ang sinasabi mo, hindi ka kukuha ng partner,
05:29hindi ka magpapaliga ng kapwa artista.
05:31Yes.
05:32You never had a boyfriend, artista?
05:33No.
05:34Okay.
05:35So, yun deliberate pala yun.
05:36Sadya yun.
05:37Yes.
05:38Don't get your equal.
05:39Who should you get?
05:41Get somebody who's more experienced, who's more empowered, who's more intelligent.
05:48Okay.
05:49Yeah.
05:50Always somebody bigger and better than you.
05:52I'm a dreamer, Kuya Boy.
05:53Ang mga boyfriends mo ay labas ng negosyong ito?
05:56Para may iba ang perspective.
05:58That's true.
05:59Yeah.
06:00Okay.
06:01Tapos, isa pa sa mga…
06:02Can you name some boyfriends?
06:03Isa pa yan sa mga rule na yan, no?
06:04Okay.
06:05Pa-follow up natin sa rule na yan.
06:06Since you're not gonna get somebody you're equal, ganun din sa pera.
06:10Kung alimbawa, ang network ko is say, one million.
06:13Wag ka nang kumuha ng one million din ang network.
06:16Dapat mas mataas.
06:18Yes.
06:19Dapat mas mataas.
06:20All right.
06:21And pag nililigawan ka noon, do you actually talk about money?
06:24No, you don't talk about money.
06:26You have a way of knowing kung magkano…
06:29It's a deal breaker kasi if you talk about money.
06:31Okay.
06:32Yeah.
06:33All right.
06:34I'm a girl and I make my own money.
06:35I'm very independent, ganun.
06:37At mapapansin mo naman kung mas may kaya siya o hindi sayo.
06:41Yeah, although maraming fake ano, diba?
06:45Maraming may fake news.
06:47Okay, so that's rule number one.
06:49Medyo may dagdag.
06:51Uh-huh.
06:52Rule number three.
06:53Do you have the freedom today to name some of those boyfriends?
06:57Wala pa?
06:58Hindi ko siya pwedeng panggitin.
07:00All right.
07:01Kasi medyo buhay pa sila.
07:02Okay.
07:04Hintayin natin matigok sila.
07:06Pag matigok sila, baka pwede nang panggitin.
07:08Okay.
07:09Atsaka hindi rin masyadong polite.
07:10I just thought about it.
07:11Okay.
07:12Rule number two.
07:13Rule number three na tayo.
07:15Ah, three na?
07:16Idinagdag mo yung net worth?
07:17Rule number three, yeah.
07:18Okay.
07:19I don't say yes on the first date.
07:21You don't?
07:22Yes.
07:23Okay.
07:24Pang ilan?
07:25Merong kang bilang?
07:26And follow up to that, ayoko nung last minute dates.
07:30Yung parang hindi ka pinaggandaan, kailangan paggandaan ka.
07:33Right.
07:34Hindi yung last minute parang booty call na last minute pag Friday night.
07:38If you want to date me on a Friday night, at least call me mga Monday pa lang.
07:43Okay.
07:44Kung hindi ka nag-yes sa first date, do you kiss on a first date?
07:49No, I don't kiss on a first date.
07:50You don't?
07:51Alam mo kahit ako sexy star, kuya boy, masyado akong kuripo sa ***.
07:55Pero alam mo, but can I say this?
08:01I believe you.
08:03I really believe you.
08:04Yeah.
08:05I have so much respect for you.
08:06Kasi nakikita na nga sa screen.
08:08Remember, I'm the first Filipina na nag-frontal nudity.
08:11Tapos sa real life, ipapangalandakan mo pa yung sarili mo.
08:14So, hindi pwedeng gano'n.
08:16Ano ang mga ibang klaseng lalaki na nakasalubong mo sa iyong buhay?
08:20Meron mga lalaki na they want to level up with you.
08:25Pero makikita mo, hindi naman authentic.
08:28May guapo, pero hindi.
08:29Meron guapo, super guapo na hunk, pero there's nothing in the head naman.
08:34Okay.
08:35Meron naman mga intellectual.
08:36Ako, to me, the brain is such a sexy thing for me.
08:39So, excited ako to meet men na matalino.
08:44Sabi ko nga sa'yo, you learn so much from them.
08:47Oo.
08:48Yeah.
08:49That's the thing, di ba?
08:50Yeah.
08:51Meron din naman mga lalaki na jigulo na talagang they're after you for the money.
08:56Pero sabi ko nga sa'yo, I work hard for the money.
08:59Kaya, it's very hard for me na magbitaw just like that.
09:03Sa ang category si Jonathan?
09:06What kind of a man is your husband?
09:08Oh, he's very special.
09:10He's a human rights lawyer.
09:13He gave me a lot of comfort and I gave him a lot of affection.
09:17Wow.
09:18And there you go.
09:19I mean, if you're talking about conversations, he must be a man.
09:23Yeah, he is.
09:24Who can engage you in conversations.
09:26He has such a big heart.
09:28O, para akong Gen Z o Gen X.
09:30We met online.
09:31Ay, ang ganda.
09:32Yes.
09:33How was the interaction?
09:35How was the flirtation?
09:36Oh, I had somebody in the U.S. who was like editing and accepting all the inquiries.
09:44So, I had my sister, si Maria Estela Lopez.
09:46So, siya yung sumasagot sa mga inquiries.
09:48Tapos, isa yan sa mga choices niya.
09:50Of course, meron pa rin mga iba, mga contenders.
09:53Parang beauty pageant.
09:54May elimination.
09:55Okay.
09:56Yeah.
09:57Until finally, we met.
09:58Yeah.
09:59I wasn't able to meet him in the States.
10:00So, what he did, he came to the Philippines to meet me.
10:03May spy kaagad?
10:04Sabi ko sa kanya, we want to build this on a foundation of friendship.
10:09So, when he first came here, I told him na let's not expect anything.
10:13Let's just have fun.
10:14And he said what?
10:16This is a human rights lawyer, diba?
10:18Yes.
10:19Well, the first thing when we saw each other, when he opened the hotel room,
10:23he handed me lavender flowers from his lavender garden.
10:27Oh.
10:28Yes, he's really a sweet guy.
10:29He is.
10:30Yes.
10:31At kami, masaya because you are happy.
10:34Oh, thank you.
10:35You are happy.
10:36Not just happy, but it's a very peaceful life with him.
10:39Katulad na lama ngayon because we're about to do fast talk.
10:41We have two minutes to do this.
10:43Wow.
10:45And Isabelle, our time begins now.
10:47Swimwear, lingerie.
10:49Lingerie.
10:50Long gown, duster.
10:51Long gown.
10:52Sexy, brainy.
10:53Brain.
10:54Kabugera, isnabera.
10:55Kabugera.
10:56Init, lamig.
10:57Init.
10:58Harap, likod.
10:59Harap.
11:00Halik sa pisingi, halik sa labi.
11:02Halik sa labi.
11:03Pinoy, foreigner.
11:04Foreigner.
11:05Long hair, short hair.
11:06Long hair.
11:07Artistang nakatampuhan mo.
11:09No comment.
11:10Artistang nakatarayan mo.
11:12No comment.
11:13No comment.
11:14Artistang muntik mong maging boyfriend.
11:16Muntik lang.
11:17No comment.
11:18Favoritong direktor na nakatrabaho.
11:20Celso Adcastillo.
11:21Direktor na nakaaway.
11:23Celso Adcastillo.
11:25Guilty or not guilty?
11:26Natatakot tumanda.
11:28Guilty.
11:29Guilty or not guilty?
11:30Nereklamo ang leading man.
11:32No comment.
11:33Guilty or not guilty?
11:34Niligawan ang politiko.
11:36Yes.
11:37Guilty or not guilty?
11:38Nagkaboyfriend ng mas bata.
11:40Not guilty.
11:42Guilty or not guilty?
11:43Nagtampos sa binibining Pilipinas.
11:45Guilty.
11:46Guilty or not guilty?
11:47Pinangarap magcover sa playboy.
11:49Not guilty.
11:50One word.
11:51Describe yourself as a mother.
11:53Feisty.
11:55As a wife.
11:56Feisty.
11:57As an actress.
11:58Sensitive.
12:00As a woman.
12:01Hot.
12:03Lights on or lights off?
12:05Lights on.
12:06Happiness or chocolates?
12:08Happiness.
12:09Best time for happiness?
12:11Nighttime.
12:12Gagawing pelikula ang buhay mo.
12:14Give it a title.
12:16The Scandalous Life of Maria Isabel Lopez.
12:23The Scandalous Life of Maria Isabel Lopez.
12:26Kung halimbawa gagawin ang pelikula ng ito,
12:28sino ang pipiliin mo to portray the role of Maria Isabel Lopez?
12:33That's my first question.
12:34At mga batas na may kinalaman sa growing old,
12:39ganda,
12:40beauty pageants,
12:41lahat ito ay tatalakain po namin
12:43sa pagbabalik ng Fast Talk with Boy Abunda.
12:48We're back on the show.
12:49Kasama natin si Maria Isabel Lopez.
12:51Batas pagdating sa ganda, Isabel?
12:54Hindi yung puro physical,
12:56hindi yung puro moisturizer.
12:58I would believe it's the breathing and the meditation.
13:01May panahon ba, Isabel,
13:03nung iyong, you know, when you're doing isla with Celso Agustillo,
13:08na-bother ka ba doon sa,
13:10ang tingin sa'yo ng maraming tao ay katawan lamang,
13:15even if you were very bright,
13:16even if you were feisty.
13:19Did you get bothered?
13:20It doesn't bother me, Kuya Boy.
13:22You're not the type to feel this feeling,
13:25but I will ask you,
13:26may regrets ka?
13:28Regrets?
13:29As an actor,
13:30all of the films that you did in the past.
13:32Wala akong regrets, Kuya Boy.
13:34Yeah.
13:35Wala akong regrets.
13:36Ang only regret ko lang siguro is,
13:38I focused more on the money I make,
13:40on the talent fee,
13:41and not on like who's the director,
13:44who's like gonna be the,
13:45so there was a time na,
13:47I turned down Alino Broca film,
13:49dahil ang budget is so little.
13:51So yun siguro isa sa mga regrets ko.
13:53That's right.
13:54Pag-usapan natin ang mga batas,
13:55pagdating naman sa growing old.
13:57Kanina sa Fast Talk,
13:58you said that,
13:59are you afraid of growing old?
14:01I'm not afraid of growing old.
14:02You're not?
14:03Because I'm already old,
14:04and I'm still fearless.
14:05Naalala ko lamang,
14:06sabi mo nga sa akin,
14:07yes, you were a sexy model.
14:10Ang Gerard Peters.
14:13Yes.
14:14How was that? Why?
14:15Ang Gerard Peter model is basically
14:16entertainment for men.
14:18Mga babae dun,
14:19nag-mumodel kami ng one-piece,
14:20two-piece, lingeries,
14:22and then ang majority na audience namin,
14:25mga lalaki.
14:26And then from this Gerard Peter
14:28came the ranks of our actresses
14:29like Carmie Martin,
14:31Ana Marie Gutierrez,
14:33ako, Malu De La Fuente,
14:35and Emily Lauren,
14:37and many more.
14:38During the days in Gerard Peter,
14:40I had to give up my career
14:42as a fashion designer
14:43because modeling for that show,
14:45you earn four times your income.
14:48Oh, okay.
14:49Yes, yeah.
14:50Alright.
14:51And you won't believe this,
14:52Kuya Boy,
14:53but it's one of the happiest stages
14:54of my life.
14:55Bakit?
14:56Because it's nice to be looked at,
14:58it's nice to wear nice clothes,
15:00like even if you're wearing lingerie,
15:02you look beautiful.
15:03And I was thankful
15:05that it was through that
15:06fashion modeling group
15:07na na-discover ako
15:08para maging Miss Philippines.
15:10Paano ka na-discover?
15:11Nanunood si Rudy Fuentes,
15:13the fashion designer.
15:15And then when he saw me there,
15:16he asked me na isasali niya ako
15:18sa Binibining, Pilipinas.
15:19And then I told him,
15:20how can I win?
15:21I'm a sexy model.
15:23Sabi niya, we won't tell them.
15:24Pero hindi mo naman maitago.
15:26Kuya Boy,
15:27kasi yung mga board of judges namin,
15:28nanunood din ang Gerard Peter,
15:30yung host namin si Ariel Ureta,
15:32nanunood din ang Gerard Peter.
15:34So how can you hide it?
15:35And there was a distinct walk.
15:37Merong walk.
15:39Diba?
15:40Tinuturo ang kayo nun?
15:41Tinuturo sa'min yun
15:42and tinuturo sa'min
15:43to project
15:44and look at the audience
15:46straight in the eye.
15:47Talagang derecha.
15:48Yes.
15:49So kahit naka-see-through ka
15:50or naka-bikini ka
15:51or naka-lingerie ka,
15:53if you look at the guy
15:54straight in the eye,
15:55parang ano,
15:56parang you're just
15:57communicating with them.
16:00Pag-usapan natin ang mga batas,
16:02since you mentioned
16:03Binibining Pilipinas,
16:04beauty pageants.
16:05Ano ang mga batas
16:07na pwede mong ibahagi,
16:08i-share
16:09sa mga maraming nanunood
16:10na nangangarap
16:11maging beauty queens?
16:12Well, iba na kasi
16:13yung law ngayon.
16:15Pumbaga, nung time namin,
16:16ako lang yung nakalusot
16:17na beauty queen
16:18na nag-sexy model.
16:21Ngayon talaga
16:22nasa rules and regulation
16:25na ngayon
16:26ng Binibining Pilipinas
16:27na hindi ka pwede
16:28yung mag-post
16:29sa mga men's magazine,
16:30kinakailangan
16:32decent yung mga
16:33magazine covers mo.
16:35If ever you did
16:36pictorials,
16:37photoshoots,
16:38wala kang mga nude photographs.
16:39Agree ka ba dito
16:40sa batas na ito?
16:41Well, hindi ako
16:42agree sa mga batas na yan.
16:43Kulang nalang ilagay doon
16:44na virgin yung kanilang
16:45candidate, diba?
16:46Were you asked
16:47if you were a virgin
16:48when you joined?
16:49Yes, I was asked
16:50in one of the pre-judging
16:51closed doors.
16:52Nung panahon mo?
16:53Yes.
16:54At anong isinagot mo?
16:55Sinagot ko yung totoo.
16:56No, wala ka naman
16:57virgin pa ako.
16:58Hindi naman mukhang
16:59virgin.
17:00Buka ba itong virgin?
17:01Oo.
17:02So, natanong ka
17:03because I read about it.
17:04Yes.
17:05But, the story is
17:06you won.
17:07Yes.
17:08Binibining Philippines
17:09universe.
17:10Yeah, despite the fact
17:11na alam nila yung
17:12background ko na gano'n.
17:13And remember,
17:14Kuya Boy,
17:15kahit sabi mo
17:16UP graduate ka,
17:17kahit sabi mo
17:18designer ka ng
17:19Rustan's and SM,
17:20talagang hindi yun
17:21maku-cover up
17:22yung fact na
17:23alam mo naman,
17:24Filipinos love gossip
17:25and intrigues.
17:27The stereotyping
17:29na pag ika'y lumabas
17:30sa isang sexy fashion show,
17:31ang morals mo
17:32ay ganito.
17:33Yes, you're gonna be judged
17:34pagdating sa morality.
17:35Hindi ko sinasabi
17:36that we're creating
17:37rules for beauty contests.
17:38But, what I'm saying is
17:39ang pinanggagalingan nito
17:40is highly cultural
17:41na pag ika'y sumali
17:42sa ganito,
17:43ganito ka.
17:44You know?
17:45Ano itong love-hate
17:46relationship mo
17:47with Binibining Pilipinas?
17:48Let's go to that
17:4950th anniversary.
17:51Well,
17:52every year,
17:53I come to the
17:54pageant coronation night
17:55so they give us tickets.
17:57This particular year,
17:5850th year ng Binibini,
18:00hindi ako nakatanggap
18:01ng tickets.
18:02Pero lahat ng friends ko,
18:03lahat ng beauty queen
18:04friends ko,
18:05may mga tickets na.
18:06So, talagang feeling ko
18:07talagang dinidiin.
18:09So, finally,
18:10there was a time na
18:11si Gloria Diaz
18:12found out na wala akong ticket.
18:14So, she gave me her ticket.
18:16So, naka-attend ako
18:17noong 50th year.
18:18Pero, ang nangyari,
18:19noong dumating ako don,
18:22kinausap ako ng security
18:24na bakit daw ako nandon.
18:26Tapos, saan daw yung ticket ko?
18:28Sabi ko, pinakita ko
18:29yung ticket ko.
18:30So, wala silang magawa.
18:31So, sinurong,
18:32saan ko nakuha yun?
18:33Sabi ko, Gloria Diaz
18:34gave it to me.
18:35Ayan si Gloria,
18:36nagdadyad, so kausapin yun.
18:37Hindi naman dila makausap.
18:39Yun pala,
18:40si Stella Marquez
18:41made it a point
18:42na I won't be there
18:43sa 50th year.
18:44Did you know why?
18:46Because nga,
18:47ang tingin nila sa akin,
18:48rebel queen ako.
18:50Tapos, ang tingin nila sa akin
18:51is yung background
18:52kung naging sexy star ako.
18:54Kung baga,
18:55right after winning the pageant,
18:57ginawa ko yung mga movies
18:58sa Experimental Cinema
18:59of the Philippines
19:00na Frontal Nudity.
19:02Kung baga,
19:03she didn't like that.
19:04Okay, alright.
19:05But ever since,
19:06ayaw niya na sa akin
19:07kasi nga yung scandals
19:08na nangyari sa Bilibini
19:09after nalaman nila
19:10na Gerard Peter model ako.
19:12Ganon.
19:13But, all's well?
19:15Oo, okay naman.
19:16They gave me my book.
19:17I wasn't able to attend
19:18but they sent it to my house.
19:20The book of many years of beauties.
19:23They gave me gifts like that.
19:25Siguro next year,
19:26I'll plan to attend.
19:28And that's gonna be
19:29a different story.
19:30At least wala na magpapaali
19:31sa silya ko.
19:32Kung gagawing pelikulang
19:33yung buhay,
19:34may naisip ka bang
19:35artista who can play
19:36Maria Isabel Lopez?
19:39That will take a time
19:40of research
19:41because we need an actress
19:42who's not only beautiful,
19:43who's like not only Morena
19:45but somebody who has fire
19:48inside her.
19:50So that will take
19:51a lot of research.
19:52Until now,
19:53you're still sticking
19:54to your truth.
19:55Maraming maraming salamat.
19:57Maraming salamat.
19:58And all the best.
20:01But thank you.
20:02Thank you for being you.
20:04Thank you for all that you are
20:06and thank you for all the things
20:07that you've done
20:08for others,
20:10for your friends.
20:12And thank you for affecting
20:14other people's lives.
20:16That's important.
20:17Totoo yan.
20:18Totoo yan.
20:19Maraming maraming salamat.
20:22Maraming salamat po
20:23sa inyong pagpapasok sa amin
20:24sa inyong mga tahanan at puso
20:25araw-araw.
20:26Be kind.
20:27Make your nanay proud.
20:28And say thank you.
20:29Do one good thing a day
20:31and make this world
20:32a better place.
20:33Goodbye for now
20:34and God bless.

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