The head of the Canadian province of Ontario is threatening to cut off electricity exports to the U.S. CBS News correspondent Shanelle Kaul spoke with Premier Doug Ford on Wednesday.
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00:00Welcome back.
00:02The head of the Canadian province of Ontario is, listen to this, threatening to cut off
00:07electricity exports to the United States.
00:10Premier Doug Ford says he will turn off the power supply to three U.S. states, this in
00:15protest of President Trump's recently imposed tariffs.
00:18Ford's government is already committed to applying a 25 percent surcharge on energy
00:23exports to New York, Michigan and Minnesota.
00:26CBS News correspondent Chanel Call spoke to the Ontario premier late this afternoon
00:31and joins me now.
00:32Chanel, great to see you.
00:33So as I understand it, Ontario, largest manufacturer of car parts in Canada.
00:38What impact could this 30-day delay and the tariffs on those auto parts have?
00:44Well, Major, great to be with you.
00:46I mean, the premier has been vocal about this issue of automotive tariffs leading up to
00:52this announcement today about this pause.
00:54Basically, he says it's going to hurt people on both sides of the border.
00:59And that's because car plants here in the U.S. heavily rely on parts from Canada and
01:04Mexico.
01:05And the way this works, explained by Olivia earlier today as well, is that these parts
01:10will go back and forth several times before a car is actually made and sold here in the
01:16U.S.
01:17And essentially what that means is the price of these cars could skyrocket if the parts
01:22keep getting slapped with tariffs every time they cross the border.
01:26So I spoke to the premier about what this one-month pause means today.
01:30He said leading up to this announcement from the White House, he had a phone call with
01:34Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick.
01:36He believes that phone call, at least in part, played a part, that is, in this one-month
01:41pause.
01:42Listen.
01:43The tone is, you know, nothing's for sure right now.
01:47And that's very concerning.
01:49You know, as I always say, the only country that's benefiting from this squabble, if you
01:56want to call it that way, that is China.
01:59You know, as China is flooding markets around the world, undercutting American and Canadian
02:05workers, and they're sitting back laughing watching the two closest friends and allies
02:12fight a tariff war.
02:14So Major, in case you're wondering why a premier of Ontario has a seat at the bargaining table,
02:19during these trade discussions, it's because Ontario is super important.
02:25The premier of Ontario is sort of like a governor here in the U.S., but Ontario is key because
02:30it's such a huge trade partner with the U.S.
02:32It is the nation's largest economy in Canada, home to some pretty big industries, not just
02:37automotive, but manufacturing and technology as well.
02:41It is also super populated.
02:4340% of Canadians live in Ontario.
02:46So Chanel, Ontario can play a big role in this, not just conceptually, but economically,
02:51practically.
02:52What other steps is the premier either thinking about or already set in motion?
02:56Well, he's already committed to banning American companies from bidding on Ontario infrastructure
03:02projects, also removing American alcohol from store shelves.
03:05We've already seen this happen today, and canceling a $100 million deal with Elon Musk's
03:11Starlink internet provider.
03:13And he says he is open to cutting off electricity to three bordering American states.
03:20Listen.
03:21As President Trump is, you know, trying to get his tax cuts and other areas, he's really
03:31just creating chaos.
03:33There's one person responsible for that, and that's President Trump.
03:37And you know, Major, I spent a decade covering politics in Canada before moving to the U.S.,
03:41and I have to say, this is extraordinarily spicy, what we're seeing, this rhetoric in
03:46Canadian politics.
03:47We saw Premier Ford the last couple of weeks wearing this hat that reads Canada not for
03:53sale.
03:54He's been doing that at recent news conferences, and it comes on the heels of his reelection
03:58in Ontario, where a lot of people say he may have won because of this tough on Trump stance.
04:04We also heard from Prime Minister Justin Trudeau yesterday, using really blunt and curt language.
04:12He actually also addressed the President Donald Trump by his first name, Donald.
04:17And Chanel, based on your experience covering Canadian politics, does this feel to you like
04:21maybe not a tipping point, but a sort of reassessment across Canada about its relationship with
04:26the United States, and if not the United States generally, with the Trump administration specifically?
04:32The timing here is so key, because historically these two nations have been so intertwined
04:36culturally, and of course, economically as well, and we are starting to see a divide.
04:41I think, you know, I'm hearing anecdotally a lot of Americans do think this notion of
04:45Canada becoming a 51st state may be a joke, but Canadians, many of them are not receiving
04:51it this way.
04:52A lot of people are taking this as a serious threat.
04:56As a result, we're seeing a lot of nationalism sort of emerge in Canada, and if you ask how,
05:02you might remember there were a lot of boos to the American national anthem at the last
05:07couple of big sports events between the two countries.
05:11There are also Canadians who are now boycotting American goods and major.
05:15There are tons of Canadians who will ordinarily come to Florida to spend the winter here.
05:20They are not doing that this year.
05:23Great perspective and reporting.
05:24Chanel Call, thanks so much.