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00:00I'm really looking forward to speaking with him, former U.S. Ambassador to Russia, Michael
00:03McFaul is here with us live.
00:06We've got eyes on potentially some developing court proceedings live tonight.
00:11It's just a really busy Friday night.
00:13There's a lot to get to.
00:14I am really glad you are here.
00:16And I will be honest, I'm feeling a little fired up tonight.
00:21I'm, what's that phrase?
00:23I'm feeling, I feel like I'm loaded for bear, right?
00:28So we're just, I'm just going to do this.
00:31I don't care.
00:32I don't care.
00:33Let's just do it.
00:34Let's just, let's just start right in with something that Republicans really, really,
00:38really do not want to talk about.
00:41And part of the way you can tell they don't want to talk about it is because when they
00:44get asked about it, they turn pink, they stammer, they stomp their feet and put the microphone
00:50down.
00:51They do not want to talk about this at all.
00:56Republican Congressman Scott Fitzgerald of Wisconsin, for example, does not want to talk
01:00about this at all.
01:02You personally, personally believe that you, the elector of Ukraine, is a dictator and
01:13started the war against Russia.
01:15No, no, I don't.
01:17No, I was, I, like I said, I voted for the first tranche, uh, no, Ukraine didn't start
01:22the war.
01:23Um, I, you know, I, I'm not, I don't think that the president's goals are not what everybody
01:41wants, which is to end the war, right?
01:43End the war.
01:44So if you don't want to end the war, if you don't want to end the war, then you're in
01:48a different position.
01:49You've got to, you've got to have some type of negotiated end to this.
01:54Um, he's, he's certainly pushing hard for that to happen and, and if, I can't speak
02:04over everybody.
02:06And if, and if Zelensky, Zelensky needs to be in the room.
02:09He absolutely needs to be, I, I, I don't disagree with that.
02:14I don't, I don't disagree with the idea that he needs to be, he's probably part of the
02:18solution.
02:19Right?
02:20So I'm not sure.
02:21I'm not, I'm not, I'm not sure exactly what that's going to look like, but I'm, I guess
02:29it's a good thing that the negotiations will continue and hopefully we'll end up in a position
02:34where the entire conflict comes to, comes to a halt on a negotiated level.
02:40So, okay.
02:44Matthew, Matthew, there's a Matthew here somewhere, Matthew, please tell me you want
02:52to talk about like potholes or prostitution, pot legalization, anything about this Putin
02:59stuff.
03:00This stuff is making me very, very pink.
03:02I do not want to talk about this stuff.
03:04Let's talk about something else.
03:07Republican Congressman Rich McCormick in Georgia, same problem.
03:12I would like to know your opinion and your stance on the current situation created by
03:18the president, wherein he is now saying that Ukraine is responsible for the war that Russia
03:26has initiated.
03:27And I would like to know, I would like to know if you as a Congressman will get with
03:33your fellow Congress people and stand up to the lies that are being told to the Americans.
03:38And I would also like to know if you believe that the 80 year old alliance that we have
03:45with our European allies is strong enough to withstand the attack from our White House,
03:52because this is a dangerous, dangerous precedent.
03:56You as a serviceman should help us.
04:01Zelensky I think is an honest broker of what he's trying to accomplish.
04:05He wants to save his nation.
04:06And I want Ukraine to win.
04:07And President Trump said he wants to.
04:09And I know you're going to get this way said, but but it's in our best interest.
04:15It's in our best interest, in my opinion.
04:17And by the way, this splits the Republican Party down the middle.
04:20Half the Republicans support half the have repeatedly spoken up on this repeatedly.
04:33I'm speaking about it right now, and I voted for you and I voted for Ukraine support every
04:40single time.
04:46You guys, I will turn this town hall right around.
04:50I'm putting my microphone down.
04:53This keeps happening to Republican members of Congress in their Republican districts
04:57and to Republican senators in their red states.
05:02Republican Congressman Mike Kennedy in Utah.
05:04Republican Congressman Kevin Hearn in Oklahoma.
05:07Republican Senator Lisa Murkowski in Alaska.
05:10Thank you for starting the war in Ukraine.
05:14Thank you for asking this question.
05:15Do you share his sentiment?
05:16Do you think funding should be covered in Ukraine?
05:17I don't know that the president said that.
05:18I knew he was going to say that.
05:19I knew he was going to say that.
05:20Oh my gosh.
05:21Personally, do you support Ukraine or Russia?
05:45Well, no, it's not easy, ma'am.
05:48It's not easy.
05:49Is Zelensky a dictator, yes or no?
05:53That part, I have a problem with that statement.
05:55Yes.
05:56Did Ukraine start the war?
05:57Well, it's simple.
05:58Did Ukraine start the war?
05:59Yes or no?
06:00Did Ukraine start the war?
06:01I want to know where you stand on Ukraine or Russia.
06:02We have been supporting Zelensky for years now.
06:03Three years.
06:04Putin started this.
06:05Now we're isolated.
06:06We're isolated.
06:07Let me just say this.
06:26This is not the tactic that I would use to try to solve the problem.
06:29I would like to express my dismay over the president's stance on Ukraine, including,
06:35as everyone knows, his outright falsehoods.
06:38And I'm curious.
06:39I imagine I know what your views are, but more significantly, what can the legislative
06:47branch do and what do they have the stomach for to support a peaceful resolution that
06:53involves the leaders of Ukraine and not just Trump and Putin?
06:58That's my question.
07:00Yeah.
07:02Well, I think we were all more than a little bit stunned, really, really concerned about
07:17just this radical switch.
07:20I mean, it was literally last week, the president was speaking about how he was going to work
07:32to end the war in Ukraine.
07:34I think we would all like to see a peaceful, we would like to see a peaceful and positive
07:40outcome to the bloodshed after these years.
07:44And so to now hear President Trump's comments, very derisive comments about President Zelensky
07:55today, I felt were uncalled for and unfortunate.
08:04It is wrong to suggest that somehow or other Ukraine started this war, asked for this war.
08:15But I think we're all kind of scratching our heads at how quickly the conversation has
08:27gone from being one that is supportive of President Zelensky to now being more supportive
08:34of Putin.
08:38This radical switch.
08:40Senator Lisa Murkowski of Alaska in a town hall with her constituents last week, she
08:44says we're all scratching our heads at how quickly the conversation in the White House
08:49has now gone from being supportive of Zelensky to now being supportive of Putin instead.
08:56Scratching our heads.
09:00Republicans are having a hard time with this.
09:01They try to move on to the next question.
09:03They express annoyance with their own constituents for asking about it.
09:07They get brusque and short in their answers.
09:10Or like Senator Lisa Murkowski, they just purport to be really perplexed, really confused,
09:15really scratching my head.
09:16They have a hard time with this.
09:20All the Republicans do, especially the guy at the top.
09:24You just mentioned Putin, though, and there's been this controversy the past week.
09:29Can you say yes or no, whether you have talked to Vladimir Putin since you stopped being
09:34president?
09:35Well, I don't comment on that.
09:36If I have a relationship, I don't talk about, I don't talk about, no, I don't talk about
09:40that.
09:41I don't ever say it.
09:44I don't talk about that.
09:45I don't talk about that.
09:46I don't ever say.
09:47Why don't you talk about it?
09:50I don't ever say about, why not?
09:53What does that mean?
09:54I mean, that was right before the election.
09:57But it continued after the election.
09:59And people get so mad when I play this tape.
10:01People get very angry with me when I play this tape, but, you know, honestly, bring
10:05it on.
10:06Makes me appreciate it all the more, because clearly, at least it strikes a nerve.
10:10Watch.
10:11Have you talked to President Putin?
10:14No, I have not.
10:15You haven't talked to President Putin since you've been elected?
10:16No, I have not.
10:17You mean, no, well, I don't want to say that, but I haven't spoken to him recently.
10:21So you've spoken to President Putin since you've been elected?
10:22I don't want to say that.
10:24I don't want to say anything about that.
10:25Are you going to be talking to Vladimir Putin?
10:26Who?
10:27Have you spoken to him?
10:29I don't want to say.
10:30So you've already spoken to Vladimir Putin since—
10:31I don't want to say that.
10:34I don't want to say.
10:35I don't want to say.
10:36I can't say.
10:37Why can't you say?
10:39Why can't you say?
10:41What precludes you from saying?
10:43Listen, it's Friday night.
10:47Let's just do this.
10:48Let's just cut to the chase here.
10:50Let's do a little look-see at the landscape to see why exactly it is so hard for Republicans
10:57to deal with this topic.
10:59What exactly is so hard for Republicans to talk about?
11:02What exactly is it that we are doing, up to and including switching sides in a war?
11:08But it's not limited to that.
11:12And it's all things that don't seem like good news for the United States, that makes
11:16them particularly hard to talk about.
11:18But nevertheless, with Donald Trump back in the White House, we keep doing these things
11:23relentlessly and urgently, and they all cut in the same direction.
11:26And it's really hard for Republicans to explain because of what it obviously means.
11:32It's clear why they do not want to talk about this stuff, and it gets all the more clear
11:36when you just line this stuff up.
11:37Let me show you what I mean.
11:38Here's one.
11:41Donald Trump's hand-picked attorney general, she gets sworn in to lead the U.S. Justice
11:45Department on her first day on the job.
11:47What is the first thing she does?
11:49Headline, U.S. Cuts Task Forces on Foreign Influence and Russian Sanctions.
11:54Quote, in a memo sent to staff Wednesday, U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi revealed she
11:59had disbanded the Foreign Influence Task Force, a unit dedicated to investigating violations
12:05of the Foreign Agents Registration Act.
12:08Bondi did not elaborate, but figures on the Republican Party's conspiratorial far right
12:13have accused the government of abusing FARA to unfairly target political operatives, like
12:19Paul Manafort, Trump's 2016 campaign chair, who was indicted in a probe into Russian influence
12:25in that year's U.S. election.
12:27Also on Wednesday, the day of her swearing in, Bondi disbanded Task Force KleptoCapture,
12:35an initiative started in 2022 to enforce sanctions against Russia.
12:41Who's all that good for?
12:44Shutting down the Foreign Influence Task Force, shutting down enforcement of the Foreign Agents
12:51Registration Act, and getting rid of the task force that enforces sanctions against Russia.
12:56Who are all those things good for?
12:59Why do we do those things?
13:00And so urgently, her first day on the job.
13:03Here's another one, which happened that same day.
13:05In a little notice directive on her first day in office, Attorney General Pam Bondi
13:09ordered a halt to a years old federal law enforcement effort to combat secret influence
13:15campaigns by China, Russia, and other adversaries that try to curry favor and sow chaos in American
13:20politics.
13:22Buried on the fourth page of one of 14 policy memos Bondi issued Wednesday, the order disbands
13:27the FBI's Foreign Influence Task Force.
13:30Last year, Justice Department prosecutors and FBI agents exposed an alleged scheme in
13:34which Russia-backed media funneled $10 million to a conservative U.S. media company that
13:40hired prominent right-wing influencers.
13:42Here's how the New York Times bannered that one, bluntly.
13:47Quote, Trump dismantles government fight against foreign influence operations.
13:53Dozens of employees who had been working to fight foreign interference in U.S. elections
13:57have been reassigned or forced out.
14:00That includes not only the FBI, but also CISA, the Cybersecurity Division at Homeland Security,
14:07which we soon learned the president's top campaign donor had installed a 19-year-old
14:15operative who reportedly personally operates websites in Russia and who has been associated
14:21with multiple criminal cyber-hacking gangs.
14:24That's who the president's top campaign donor installed at CISA, giving him full access
14:30to systems and data at the U.S. government's cybersecurity agency.
14:35A 19-year-old kid with ties to Russia and cybercrime.
14:42Who's that good for?
14:44How do you explain to your constituents who that's good for and why we are doing that
14:50as a country?
14:51And what else?
14:52What else is hard to explain to ye olde constituents when it comes to that radical switch in the
14:57U.S. government that Lisa Murkowski described?
14:59How about this?
15:00Headline, CIA plans largest mass firing in nearly 50 years.
15:06Well, that's good for someone.
15:08Who's that good for?
15:10That came right after this.
15:11Oh, Trump's new hand-picked CIA director sent a list of CIA employees to the White
15:17House in an unclassified email.
15:21Quote, current officials confirmed that the CIA had sent the names of employees to the
15:25Office of Personnel Management, complying with an executive order signed by President
15:29Trump.
15:30Senator Mark Warner, top Democrat on the Intelligence Committee, wrote that the sharing of the officers'
15:34names was a, quote, disastrous national security development.
15:39One former agency officer called the reporting of the names in an unclassified email a, quote,
15:44counterintelligence disaster.
15:46Ah, yes, a disaster for the United States, and for U.S. intelligence in particular.
15:52But very good news for someone.
15:55Hey, speaking of things that ought to be classified…
15:59Headline, how Trump's security clearances order could make the U.S. vulnerable.
16:05The plan to give temporary security clearances without background checks opens the door to
16:11breaches and espionage, experts say.
16:15Giving out security clearances without background checks that look for things like, you know,
16:20criminal entanglements, lots of debt, anything that they could blackmail you over, or any
16:25contacts with foreign governments to make sure that you're not, you know, secretly
16:31working for.
16:32We're not doing the background checks anymore.
16:34Trump just has ordered that the classified material be made available to whoever he says
16:40with no checks.
16:42That doesn't seem like good news for the United States.
16:45But again, it's good news for someone.
16:49How about when they decided that the first agency they would destroy would be USAID?
16:55Who cheered the loudest for that?
16:59Russia welcomes USAID cuts, calls agency machine for interfering.
17:04Yeah, it was fantastic news for someone.
17:08No one was seen to benefit more or to be more loudly cheering it on than Vladimir Putin.
17:16And that was before the specific news confirmed today that among the projects Trump is explicitly
17:22and specifically turning off right now, this week, is the program by which the U.S. helps
17:27Ukraine keep its electric grid up and running, even though Russia has repeatedly targeted
17:34that electric grid throughout the war, because Russia's idea of how it wants to win the
17:38unprovoked war it declared on our ally is to make the civilian population, including
17:43kids and the elderly and hospital patients and everyone, their best idea for how to prosecute
17:47that war is to cause them to freeze to death by bombing the electric grid in February.
17:56So more than any other evident targeting, they have targeted the electric grid that
18:03serves the civilian population in Ukraine.
18:08It is the United States that has helped Ukraine masterfully keep the power grid up despite
18:13those repeated onslaughts by Russia.
18:19Until this week, when Trump just cut it off, which is good news for someone, right?
18:30President dressed up the defense secretary.
18:31He handpicked off the cast of the Fox and Friends weekend show, put him in a bright
18:35blue suit and sent him to Europe, where he volunteered unasked that Ukraine can't be
18:41expected to keep all of its own territory.
18:44He said that would be, quote, unrealistic.
18:46It would be, quote, unrealistic to not let Russia take parts of Ukraine.
18:51He then volunteered unasked that Ukraine will not be allowed to join NATO.
18:58Now we've got pro-Trump Republican senators saying, yeah, not just Ukraine won't be allowed
19:04in NATO, we ought to get out of NATO, too, which, of course, would collapse NATO.
19:11Who would that most benefit?
19:13For whom would that be really, really good news?
19:18Donald Trump says let's let Russia back into the G7.
19:23Donald Trump is reportedly preparing right now for his own big in-person summit with
19:28Vladimir Putin.
19:30Donald Trump already started high-level meetings between the Russian and U.S. governments,
19:35including an inexplicable three-and-a-half-hour meeting specifically between the president's
19:43real estate friend and Vladimir Putin himself.
19:47Steve Whitkoff came back from that meeting and—how'd that go?
19:52Went pretty well for someone.
19:54Headline, parroting Putin and Trump, Whitkoff says Russia was provoked into invading Ukraine.
20:00Headline, Trump envoy can't name a single concession Russia will make in peace deal.
20:08What does it seem like is going on here?
20:14Imagine if a foreign adversary, imagine if the Putin government somehow could just do
20:20a thought experiment.
20:22Imagine they could somehow exert control or influence over the government of the United
20:29States.
20:31What do you think the Putin government would have the U.S. government do if he could control
20:35it?
20:37What kind of headlines would you expect to see about the operations of our government
20:41under that kind of a scenario?
20:45And what would you expect the news out of the Oval Office and the White House to look
20:49like on a day like today?
20:55At the start of this made-for-TV debacle at the White House today, where the president
21:01and vice president, J.D. Vance, screamed at our ally Vladimir Zelensky and berated him
21:07with Russian government talking points.
21:10When this happened today in Washington, there's a couple things that stuck out to me.
21:17First of all, at the very start of this photo-op—they had all the press in the room—Trump was
21:23asked right at the outset when he last spoke with Vladimir Putin.
21:26He said, quote, a couple of days ago, which was news because the U.S. government had said
21:31nothing about Donald Trump speaking with Vladimir Putin a couple of days ago.
21:37So that's new.
21:38He used to say, I'm not allowed to talk about that.
21:40Now he's admitting that he talks to Putin all the time, even when the U.S. government
21:43doesn't release any information about those calls like they do with all other foreign leaders.
21:50Second was the truly bizarre revelation that Russian state-controlled media, for some reason,
22:00was in the Oval Office today when this scene happened with Vladimir Zelensky.
22:05Now, to be clear, the Trump White House will not allow the Associated Press or Reuters
22:11into the Oval Office to cover White House events anymore.
22:14But somehow TASS media, Kremlin-controlled Russian state media, somehow made their way
22:20into the Oval Office for this berating of the Ukrainian president today.
22:26And Russian state media was in the Oval Office somehow live-streaming from the event.
22:33Afterwards, look at this bizarre statement from the White House attributed to an unnamed
22:39White House official.
22:40Quote, TASS was not on the approved list of media for today's pool.
22:44As soon as it came to the attention of press office staff that he was in the Oval, he was
22:48escorted out by the press secretary.
22:50He is not on the approved list for the press conference.
22:53It's not on the approved list.
22:55I have no idea how he got in there to live-stream for Kremlin-controlled state media, the president
23:04and vice president of the United States, screaming at Ukraine's president and berating
23:10him with Russian talking points.
23:14We don't know how the Kremlin guy got in here.
23:16It was weird.
23:17He just wandered in.
23:18I mean, people do.
23:19It's a free country.
23:21People do just wander into the Oval Office.
23:27A very radical thing is happening in our country.
23:31It is not only radical in the sense that it is a large directional change, right, switching
23:37sides in a war, now standing against our allies of the last 80 years, now siding with Russia
23:43instead.
23:44I mean, no longer siding with the free world, now siding with the authoritarian governments
23:49of the world.
23:50Like, it's not just radical in that it is a 180-degree directional change.
23:56It is also radical in the sense that it is really, radically unpopular with the American
24:01people.
24:02I mean, you can see that in the polling.
24:05Quinnipiac poll this month, should the U.S. trust Vladimir Putin?
24:09Yes, 9 percent, no, 81 percent.
24:14Here's another one, the Economist YouGov poll out this month.
24:17Do you have a favorable or unfavorable view of Vladimir Putin?
24:20The American public say favorable, 11 percent, unfavorable, 78 percent.
24:27The American people are not clamoring for us to ally ourselves with Vladimir Putin.
24:33Right?
24:36You can see it very clearly in the polling.
24:40And it begs the question, well, OK, who wants this?
24:42Who voted for this?
24:43Why are we doing this?
24:45If the American people don't want this, why are we doing it?
24:51Who says we should do this?
24:55Who's making us do this?
24:58And why?
24:59And for whose benefit?
25:01You can see the same dynamic in the bewildered and outraged questions that Americans are
25:05asking their Republican members of Congress at these town halls, which Republicans are
25:09now realizing they better not do any more of.
25:13They're asking their Republican senators and their Republican members of Congress,
25:17what the heck is going on?
25:18What is going on here?
25:23But let's be clear.
25:24I mean, what's going on here is pretty obvious at this point, because this is all really
25:31good news for somebody.
25:33It's not the American people for whom it's good.
25:35It's not our allies for whom it's good.
25:37And this is nothing that anyone campaigned on.
25:40And it is nothing that anyone has.
25:42What has happened at the Oval Office has been not what we expected it to be.
25:48We knew that communication with Trump and his team is going to be difficult.
25:52We did not expect that.
25:54We did not expect what we have seen.
25:57It's unimaginable that the leader of the free world, the leader of the biggest democracy
26:02in the world, would attack the president of the country that has been attacked, while
26:09at the same time conducting negotiations in a very friendly tone with the country
26:14that is the aggressor, that is the Russian side.
26:18We definitely did not see that coming.
26:21Even though we expected the communication between Trump and Zelensky to be tough, that
26:26is not what we expected.
26:29So it is, of course, a new era in the relationships between the two states.
26:36That's a member of Ukraine's parliament, Inna Sofson, reacting tonight to the bizarre
26:42Oval Office spectacle today in which Donald Trump and Vice President J.D. Vance screamed
26:48Russian talking points at Ukraine's president on camera.
26:53Joining us now is Michael McFaul, former U.S. ambassador to Russia.
26:57Ambassador McFaul, it's really nice of you to make time to be here with us tonight.
27:00Glad to be here, Rachel.
27:03So today, I think, felt to many people like putting a final piece of punctuation on it.
27:11This is a full realignment of American foreign policy overall.
27:15Under Donald Trump, the United States will abandon an allied democracy.
27:19We will support the autocrat.
27:21We will support Vladimir Putin instead.
27:24Do you see it that way, and can you help us understand the broader implications of what
27:28we saw today?
27:29Tragically, I see it that way, and you just presented a lot of evidence to support that
27:36hypothesis before the commercial break.
27:39And I just, this is such a sad day for me personally, as somebody who cares about democracy
27:43and autocracies, and I know American history.
27:47We haven't been perfect.
27:49We haven't always been on the side of the Democrats, but we have a longstanding tradition
27:53of standing up to autocrats.
27:55Think about it.
27:57All of our enemies throughout all of our history have been dictatorships.
28:01Our most enduring allies, our strongest allies, have always been democracies.
28:06And today, our president wants to switch sides in the struggle between autocrats and Democrats.
28:13He doesn't want to be the leader of the free world.
28:15He wants to join the autocratic club.
28:17And I just think it's sad on a kind of ethical and moral level, but I also think this does
28:22not serve American national security interests.
28:26If he goes down this path, we will be isolated from our allies in Europe, from our allies
28:32in Asia.
28:33The rest of the world will hedge their bets, and we will be alone.
28:39I know that you have been following the actual negotiations to end the war in Ukraine closely.
28:46I also understand you spoke with members of President Zelensky's delegation since the
28:50Oval Office meeting today.
28:53What are they telling you?
28:54What is your sense about the best path forward and what options they have now?
28:59Well, this was supposed to be a good day.
29:02You know, they negotiated very hard, both sides, on this minerals deal.
29:07I'm not a big fan of it, but both sides thought it was in their interests.
29:13They thought that getting a direct meeting with the president was what Zelensky needed,
29:19because that's what everybody says.
29:20You got to do business with President Trump directly.
29:23And so it was their idea to fly to Washington to have this meeting.
29:27And they're just in shock.
29:28The whole country is in shock by the whole—by the way, the whole country is rallying to
29:32President Zelensky's support, just like the rest of Europe is as well.
29:37But they did not expect this.
29:40And I got to tell you, honestly, this is my opinion, not theirs, but we keep talking about
29:45Trump wants to do a deal to end the war.
29:47I'm not so sure that's true.
29:49I think he wants to do a deal with Putin.
29:53That's the real play, as you were just describing.
29:56And the Ukraine thing, it's kind of a sideshow, and if it works out, it works out.
30:00If it doesn't, Trump doesn't really care, because there's no other way to explain all
30:06of the concessions that he has already given to Vladimir Putin, even before any negotiations.
30:13So that suggests to me that, in fact, he actually is not trying to negotiate a deal.
30:17He's trying to nurture a relationship with Vladimir Putin.
30:22And as you said, I hope the American people understand this is wrong.
30:27It's not in our national interest.
30:29And I think Trump is way out ahead of the people, as your polling that you just showed
30:33just described.
30:34Yeah.
30:35I think whatever Americans voted for, I don't think people voted to make the United States
30:41a subsidiary diplomatic entity to Vladimir Putin, which is the way that Trump is operating
30:48here.
30:49Exactly.
30:50And as you were rallying to Zelensky, one of the things that we saw today were leaders
30:54of democracies from all over Europe publicly thanking Zelensky today, standing with him
31:00in solidarity after his meeting with Trump.
31:02You know, you talk about whether or not the United States is any longer associated with
31:08the free world, whether we are the leader of the free world.
31:11If we're not, is it becoming clear who is?
31:14Well, I want to keep hope alive.
31:19President Trump and his team don't seem to want to be part of the free world.
31:24But I'm an American, too.
31:25I want to be part of the free world.
31:27I hope there are other Americans who believe the same as me.
31:30And I don't want them to turn this this way, because I don't believe it serves America's
31:35interests.
31:36And by the way, there's a lot of Americans like me who think we're more than just mineral
31:40deals.
31:41We stand for more of that.
31:42So the fight is still on.
31:45But to your point, yes, the center of gravity has moved to Europe.
31:49I was at the Munich Security Conference.
31:51Actually, we talked at four in the morning there, I now remember.
31:55And the mood then was, well, we've got to pick this up.
31:58We've got to unite.
31:59We've got to stand behind the democratically elected leader of Ukraine against this imperialist
32:06dictator that has invaded his country.
32:09And tragically, for now, that's where the center of gravity for the free world is.
32:15Michael McFaul, former U.S. ambassador to Russia, I do appreciate you being here.
32:19I know that there's a lot of demand for your time on a night like this, after a shock like
32:23this.
32:24It's an honor to have you here tonight, sir.
32:26Can't imagine being anywhere else.
32:28Thanks for having me, Rachel.
32:29All right.
32:30We've got much more ahead here tonight, including, I'm really happy to say, a live visit with
32:33Senator Cory Booker.
32:35Coming up.
32:36Stay with us.
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32:39Welcome back to my channel, Tô Màu.
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