Married at First Sight (AU) S12 E20
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00:00:00Okay
00:00:01Family and friends week you guys are happy
00:00:03We are we are deepened most of our couples bonds can see the way Karina looks at you
00:00:09Yeah, you look happy you really do you can tell the chemistry is definitely there
00:00:14And I do see a future the new beginnings and family
00:00:19So you want hips?
00:00:22I've always wanted to have a child
00:00:25Tony had a shock revelation. He wants to have a baby
00:00:30Serious, I can't reproduce
00:00:32my stamp
00:00:34expired
00:00:36They are not good enough to be in your life
00:00:38He is definitely not good enough to be in my nephew's life when Athena and Adrian's families caught up
00:00:43I've been mentioning my son
00:00:49Emotions ran high
00:00:54Make sure you leave the apartment
00:01:00Tonight
00:01:02Dinner is served
00:01:05It's making me nervous coming into the group now because I'm gonna admit to everyone what I've done. I
00:01:12Did something that I absolutely
00:01:14regret
00:01:16What shocking act it's unacceptable. It's disgusting and I'm hating myself for doing this
00:01:21threatens to tear apart one of the experiments strongest couples I
00:01:30Am
00:01:33It's very serious very very very serious
00:01:47It's the morning of the fourth dinner party and after an eventful week meeting each other's friends and family
00:01:55Overnight, there's been a dramatic
00:01:58Development one of the experiment's strongest couples are waking up in separate apartments
00:02:11I felt anxious waking up this morning a little bit on edge and just sad
00:02:22So I last night
00:02:24Paul and I were coming back from a day out
00:02:27With Rhi and Jeff in the uber
00:02:31We had a really good day together enjoying the Sun very happy and lovey-dovey
00:02:38And in the uber I was putting on music and requests and stuff and I put on a song and I said a
00:02:44comment that I've slept with this
00:02:47rapper and
00:02:49I
00:02:51Didn't think it was awkward Paul and I we've spoken about our pasts and we've been open about that
00:02:58So I I didn't think there was an issue at all
00:03:03We just all laugh because obviously everyone has a history, you know before the experiment and
00:03:10Honestly, I just thought it was like a passing comment
00:03:13Like say if Jeff had hooked up with Julie for once and he's like
00:03:16Do you know that I hooked up with Julie for when I was 25? I'd be like, holy shit. Well done
00:03:21that's actually insane we sort of laughed and thought nothing of it and then we get home and
00:03:28Paul's really upset
00:03:32Paul obviously got offended by it and got felt a bit disrespected and how I said it he definitely
00:03:39Yeah, it wasn't his usual self
00:03:41He you could tell he was quite upset
00:03:44And I like instantly was like, I'm so sorry and I just like jumped at him and hugged him and apologized and
00:03:53I was cuddling him and
00:03:56Yeah, like wrapped around him and he was like I just need space
00:04:01And he obviously didn't like that
00:04:04So I just said, okay fine fine go
00:04:07And
00:04:11I turned around and I went to bed and that's when he got really angry and he yeah punched the wall. I
00:04:23Just completely lost my nerves in
00:04:26I
00:04:34She couldn't give me my space and I just absolutely lost it and I just burst out outside the room and I just ended up just
00:04:41Punching a hole in the wall
00:04:49It escalated really quickly I
00:04:52I was just in shock and I just stared and then he left. Yeah
00:05:02He slept in his own apartment last night I
00:05:08Don't even know what my relationship is with Karina right now, I don't know
00:05:15I'm just upset at myself right now. I'm just
00:05:18Actually feel so ashamed and so remorseful right now
00:05:22I
00:05:28Definitely don't condone his behavior and I don't think it's acceptable
00:05:34It's not
00:05:35Something I would want to put up with especially if I'm going into like a lifetime with this person
00:05:41So I think we've got some things we need to sort out
00:05:45But I'm not scared. I'm not scared of him. I'm not scared of being in the same environment with him
00:05:52so I just want to speak to him and
00:05:55Hear what he has to say
00:06:21I
00:06:31Sorry
00:06:46How you doing
00:06:49Yeah, I'm worried for you
00:06:51It's like what like when can I speak to you and can I see you?
00:07:00So sorry
00:07:05Goodness so how are you feeling?
00:07:09So sorry, I just I just I just can't stop thinking about it. I just haven't slept. That's not just I
00:07:15I
00:07:17Should have never react that way. I swear it's just I just don't
00:07:23I promise you like that's never gonna happen again
00:07:29Just trying to understand what like I didn't raise my voice and I was like apologetic and you know
00:07:37Kept trying to like speak to you about it and you
00:07:42Were not wanting anything like so I'm just trying to understand like I
00:07:48was really upset and I
00:07:51was so
00:07:54So angry at that
00:07:55That comment in the cab. It just felt I felt so uncomfortable and disrespected like I was just like whoa
00:08:01like what the hell I just felt like an idiot and I
00:08:06Could hear you trying to apologize but I was I was getting worked up because
00:08:11It was a it was and because it was like I'm sorry, but
00:08:18It I just I couldn't really take your apology
00:08:21Sincerely because I was like you saying you're sorry, but then you're adding it but
00:08:25Does that make sense?
00:08:26and then I just and all I wanted like I just wanted some space to
00:08:31get my head straight because I'm the kind of person like when I
00:08:34When I get held emotional, I can't have a constructive chat
00:08:38And I feel like it's a fact that you couldn't give me
00:08:42That space I needed
00:08:43You you got all upset at me that the fact that I wanted to leave to go for a walk
00:08:47You were you were really you were really angry at me and you were like, well, if that's what you want
00:08:52Then just yeah, it's you go
00:08:53Like I'm your wife and you just you can't you just you you were like, yeah
00:08:56Then leave and you you just get hell upset at me and that's why
00:09:00Relax, you are so dramatic and it's pissing me off. No now I'm getting angry
00:09:05Because you so I'm out of fear there for nothing
00:09:11Paul I said that's fine
00:09:13I was like go go go and I turned around and I went and I faced the other way
00:09:22Like it just didn't have to be as big as it was
00:09:27Look I have 100% overreacted last night. Okay, and I know and I owe that and I am genuinely
00:09:33I'm so sorry for that
00:09:40I'm a seriously hating myself. What if I'm nice? No, I'm hating myself for it
00:09:49It's obviously a bit
00:09:52Aggravating it's a bit annoying
00:09:54It's a bit frustrating
00:09:57Because Paula has done the wrong thing
00:10:00but
00:10:02Yeah, I I know
00:10:04like a whole heartedly that he is not proud of himself and his actions last night and
00:10:13Obviously everything up to today has been going really well and you know
00:10:17We both have feelings for one another we care for one another
00:10:22So I'm not giving up I want to give him the benefit of the doubt
00:10:27I want to give Paul the opportunity to make it up to me
00:10:31So it's really up to him to put in the work moving forward
00:10:39Yeah
00:10:48Tonight's dinner party officially marks the halfway point of the experiment and
00:10:54Meeting friends and family has left many of our original couples stronger than ever
00:11:00Don't know when you had a really good meet the family day like our family's go longer get house on fire and
00:11:07I feel like it brought us closer. So like I feel like my feels just like kicked up heaps
00:11:12Look at you. Ah, they're Latin dancing at dinner party. Cha-cha-cha
00:11:16Feel like now I can really picture my life with Dave like out of here. Like it just became real. It's nice
00:11:24Jeff and I are at a really good place at the moment. I feel like every week we've seen to get stronger as a couple
00:11:31I think we've had a great week
00:11:33Yes, I think like after the friends and family visits like it was nice to share to our loved ones like where we are
00:11:39In the experiment. Yeah
00:11:41But now I feel really I feel really good at going into the dinner party together. I'm
00:11:46While Jackie and Ryan have also had a great week
00:11:50While Jackie and Ryan have also had a great week together
00:11:55Heading into the dinner party. There's something weighing heavily on Jackie's mind
00:12:00Ryan it was really supportive for the past week when I was really I would say distraught
00:12:06After we had a big attack at me at the moment ceremony
00:12:10Jackie and Ryan have obviously had some troubles in their relationship and
00:12:14And Jackie reached out to Jeff to catch up for a coffee without me there I
00:12:21Just feel like it's not girl code to do that. I think it's a little bit disrespectful
00:12:27I'm upset every because she's felt it necessary
00:12:30She's been her relationship time the commitment ceremony throwing shade on somebody else, which is just disgusting
00:12:36And I think that's a crime against humanity
00:12:38So she thinks I broke girl code, I think she broke the rules of humanity
00:12:43I do want to obviously stand up for myself today and like
00:12:46Address what re has done to me and say like I don't stand for that. I'm not okay with it
00:12:51So I definitely will bring it up
00:12:54People deserve to know the truth and to be honest her assumptions are getting in the way of truth and justice in this case
00:13:03Down the hall the atmosphere is tense
00:13:07Good man, Anna
00:13:09Thank you
00:13:11Marana is still coming to terms with Tony's bombshell announcements
00:13:16He wants to have a baby
00:13:18That's why I'm not into a 57 year old
00:13:22That makes it hard for me to really
00:13:24Fall for somebody that's older
00:13:27You've never said that
00:13:30See this human being here
00:13:32Have a good look at her
00:13:34She's 57. She can't reproduce children. So this is just another excuse
00:13:40another deflection
00:13:42I've really had enough
00:13:45You know, it's almost like a dead end come to a teen to section. I think we're gonna be hopefully best dressed again tonight
00:13:57For one of the experiment's most tumultuous couples
00:14:00This week has left them more divided than ever and they're currently getting ready in separate apartments
00:14:07Adrian made a bunch of promises on that couch last week
00:14:11To the group to the experts to me
00:14:15And I don't feel like he's done anything of what he said
00:14:19Last week adrian left the experiment after he wasn't included in a chat with the group
00:14:25Last week adrian left the experiment after he wasn't included in a channel 9 promo shoot. Where are you?
00:14:33I went home
00:14:35Disrespectful
00:14:36They're not gonna be treated like that. So i'm not gonna accept it
00:14:38When he finally returned
00:14:41It was revealed he had been to dinner with another bride. Why are we out for dinner sierra saturday night?
00:14:48So athena wanted out
00:14:51I look sorry leave
00:14:54It's on your shoulders to really do some big time lifting
00:14:59Yeah, i'm well aware. She's taking time from her son. Yeah, so it's like I need to show up
00:15:05however, an explosive family lunch pushed them even further apart, I think
00:15:11You are focusing a lot on the negatives because he hasn't even shown up. So let's just stop it
00:15:17He has not even shown up what i'm not even once I was talking. He has not even said I don't care
00:15:22You know what? I actually i'm just I don't need to listen to this
00:15:26Pointless conversation it is
00:15:29I was really blindsided once again, but our friends and family catch up
00:15:34Definitely felt like an attack
00:15:36Felt like I was walking into an interrogation
00:15:39I feel like if you want something to really work with someone you'd want your friends and family to like them
00:15:44So I think if he truly wanted this to work, I would have walked into a very different situation
00:15:49And that's disappointing
00:15:51You know, this was supposed to be patreon's redemption week
00:15:54And it just doesn't feel like that's happened
00:15:59While our original couples have been meeting with friends and family
00:16:04This week our newlyweds have fast-tracked their marriages. Your shirt looks good. Oh, thank you matching
00:16:10undertaking a relationship crash course
00:16:13Designed to strengthen their bond and bring them up to speed with the other couples in a party x2
00:16:19Do we have any beans to spill?
00:16:21Nope, not really me and tj. I feel like we've kind of nailed the tasks this week
00:16:26And I do think it brought us closer together. So yeah, i'm feeling really good about where we are at the moment
00:16:33How exciting another dinner? Oh, I can't wait. I actually think it'll be a pretty quiet night tonight. What makes you think that?
00:16:41I don't know. I just think that it's time that everyone gets along
00:16:44I feel good about walking into the dinner party with clint. I mean, we're building a friendship
00:16:50He's very easy to hang out with get along with so yeah, it's going well
00:16:54Cheers
00:16:57But while lauren and clint celebrate
00:17:01Veronica and elliot are getting ready in separate apartments
00:17:06veronica and I were having issues and
00:17:10You know, it's upsetting
00:17:12Because I really put myself out there this week and I tried to be vulnerable
00:17:17But she didn't acknowledge that and I don't really understand why
00:17:22My younger sister bridey. She fell into a coma. It felt like
00:17:27It was the end of the world like it felt like there was no hope. But what did you feel in your heart?
00:17:34hopelessness
00:17:37This was the perfect opportunity for him to just tell me something anything and he chose
00:17:45nothing
00:17:46I would love to know why
00:17:49my most painful memory
00:17:51isn't
00:17:53Enough for you. I didn't feel like I learned anything about you. Listen. Listen. No, I don't want to listen to you anymore
00:17:59While the pair later tried to reconcile
00:18:02It only made the situation worse. I don't trust you. So your walls are up
00:18:07100%
00:18:08Are you kidding me the way you spoke to lauren that night at the dinner party? Yeah, okay
00:18:13The way you spoke to me, how do I speak to you?
00:18:15So you're doing the same thing as us? No, we're not
00:18:18We just got to this thing about how you don't raise your voice at me and you were being unreasonable and I will not tolerate
00:18:24This is so civil. No, i've had enough. This is so civil i've had enough
00:18:27i've had enough
00:18:29Veronica admitted she's got her walls up. She doesn't trust me
00:18:33But when she said that I felt like okay now at least it's out in the open
00:18:39We can talk about it and work to resolve it
00:18:42but I feel like every time we start to
00:18:45Get somewhere. She just loses it and storms out and I really want to
00:18:50Get past that and try to make things work because I actually really like her
00:18:56So i'm gonna go knock on veronica's door and see how she's doing
00:19:00I think it would be good for us to walk in together to the dinner party
00:19:04I'm, hoping she wants to do that as well
00:19:08Hey, how's it going? Good. How are you? You look beautiful. Thanks. Do you want to talk?
00:19:17Do I? Yeah. Um, sure. Can I come in?
00:19:21Thanks
00:19:24What would you like to say
00:19:29From my perspective it felt like we were starting to get somewhere
00:19:33I don't feel that way
00:19:35So so you saying to me that you've got your walls up and that you don't trust me
00:19:43That was a really big development. I mean like I didn't know that
00:19:48So that's what I mean by that
00:19:50Well, i'm glad that you got some insight from me but I still have nothing from you so I don't feel that way right
00:20:01So so
00:20:02Like what do you want? Like, what do you want from me?
00:20:05I'm, not going to spell it out to you. I've been really clear with you about everything that I want
00:20:10From the beginning like i'm not hearing like an apology. I'm not hearing any kind of accountability. What do you want an apology for?
00:20:20If you don't believe that you have a reason to apologize to me i'm not your mother
00:20:25I wasn't brought here to fix you. It's up to you. Nobody said to tell mom
00:20:29Sorry, just one sentence that I could finish. I would really appreciate it elliot
00:20:34Just one
00:20:35I don't appreciate you coming in here and inciting an argument
00:20:39I'm not I was minding my own business. You've come in here with no apology. No accountability
00:20:45No effort to try and make this better. You're just starting an argument
00:20:50I'm, not interested in doing this with you. I would really appreciate it if you could leave
00:20:56All right, well enjoy your last dinner party
00:21:17Well here we are dinner party number four
00:21:20Halfway through the experiment very pretty
00:21:22Oh, thank you
00:21:25And this is a pivotal part for the whole process because the original couples
00:21:30They're meeting the nearest and dearest the family members and for some couples. It will bring them closer together. No doubt about that
00:21:37Let's go one to ten. How attracted are you to me right now?
00:21:4145
00:21:43But we've seen in the past some couples can actually really fall apart. Yeah when they see the family members
00:21:50So it can be destabilizing for them
00:21:53Also our new arrivals are in fact catching up and doing the crash course
00:22:00They've moved in together they've been doing intimacy week and confessions week
00:22:04It's going to be really interesting to see how they've caught on in such a short period of time
00:22:13Okay, here we go
00:22:15Hey, hey the floor is ours, baby, let's do a twirl
00:22:23Ryan and jackie twirling and happy in the first one. That's a very fancy entrance. Cheers to being first in
00:22:30And a fantastic week. Come on sit in
00:22:33I think this is the most together that we've ever seen them walk into yeah a cocktail party. Yeah
00:22:41Look at the way she's looking into his eyes. Yeah
00:22:45I just feel like we've had such a good week. I feel like I had the best week
00:22:49Yeah, and I haven't cried in four days, which is a new record
00:22:55Hello
00:22:58Ah tj and beth, well, how are you? You guys look ravishing ravishing
00:23:09Shocker we're together again
00:23:15Here they are. Hello. Wow looking fabulous happy very much the team. Yes
00:23:24Hey
00:23:27Oh solo elliot's on his own
00:23:31How are you? Yeah, good, mate. How about yourself?
00:23:33Fun solid this week. Yeah
00:23:35Grab a drink and come sit down. Elliot
00:23:37Well, we saw an incredible turnaround with him at the last committment ceremony didn't we it was essentially a 180 degree turn
00:23:45And I guess the question that we were left with was is this real?
00:23:48Yeah, is he able to actually create this change in his life and and live it and breathe it?
00:23:57Walking in alone wasn't ideal
00:24:00Feel a little bit disappointed. It feels like my efforts going to waste a little bit here
00:24:05I'm trying to make it work with veronica and she's not reciprocating that
00:24:11So I think tonight is a kind of a bit of a sink or swim moment
00:24:15but
00:24:16I'm, honestly not that hopeful
00:24:19Yeah
00:24:22Yeah, so well i'm glad to see you and brian have come in together so good vibes continuing
00:24:28Yeah, basically after the committment ceremony. I was pretty hot with um, the behavior free
00:24:36I feel like an odin apology
00:24:39Like I felt really disrespected and I felt like really heard about it and i've been pretty distraught the week and
00:24:44Crying most days and brian's just been really really supportive
00:24:49I guess it's nice that in some way, you know, it's maybe brought you two together. Yeah
00:25:01Hi guys, ah re and jeff. Hi, how are you?
00:25:07Thank you, so do you thank you
00:25:12I'll tell you what jackie doesn't seem too happy to see jeff and re yes. She hasn't got up to great. No
00:25:20Hey jackie, hey ryan. Hi guys. How are you?
00:25:33When re walked in I felt
00:25:36Disgusted
00:25:38I don't want to look at her. Oh, okay. Is there a reason? Oh, yes, please
00:25:42She's acting like she's my friend
00:25:44When the last time I saw her
00:25:47She ridiculed me shamed me humiliated me
00:25:50And now she's saying hi to me like no mate like
00:25:54Cheers
00:25:56I've got a lecture for you. I've got a lecture in respect. I've got a lecture in truth
00:26:02and i've got a lecture in um
00:26:05What's my other lecture about?
00:26:09Um
00:26:11But anyway
00:26:13I have a lot of things that I want to educate re on
00:26:17And I think i'm deserve the time to just say my piece
00:26:31Hey jackie, hey ryan. Hey, how are you?
00:26:35Oh
00:26:39Hey
00:26:43But you're okay
00:26:44No, i'm fine
00:26:45I just didn't think would actually come into the dinner party with that
00:26:47I was like the whole thing was like that was meant to be like a case closed
00:26:51I thought so too when I all week she's been like in tears
00:26:57Jackie didn't say hi to me
00:26:59Which is a little bit disheartening because I think i've put up with her shit for the last pretty much since day one
00:27:04from
00:27:05the moment she messaged jeff
00:27:07Asking me not to be there
00:27:09and
00:27:10I feel like if anyone has anything to be annoyed about it's the fact that you have brought me into your relationship drama
00:27:18So it's a little bit annoying that she doesn't acknowledge me
00:27:22My mind is like no don't worry about that. You focus on what's going on here first, and then we'll just set off
00:27:28Don't worry about that. I don't want to address it to me
00:27:30Let's focus on what's going on
00:27:32Let's talk about the good stuff
00:27:40Adrian solo. Oh
00:27:45I lost my wife. How are you?
00:27:47How are you my man?
00:27:49Bad sign after the commitment ceremony. He made so many promises about changing. We needed him to step up. Absolutely
00:27:55So what's happened to you? What's happening?
00:27:58This is your redemption week. Yeah, we're supposed to be but no
00:28:01We had the family arm family day
00:28:04And that was just a disaster bro, you know didn't last longer than five minutes
00:28:08Oh, oh god didn't go the best
00:28:11My family came in first and then um, they sat down and we started talking about obviously
00:28:15I was like, oh you guys have heard my side
00:28:18Let's hear a phoenix
00:28:21Then a sister comes in
00:28:24Straight on the defense like yelling at me. I'm like, well relax
00:28:28But i'm just upset that she won't acknowledge her sister's behavior
00:28:32It's like hey, yeah, you shouldn't yell and you shouldn't say your name
00:28:38You're talking shit about me
00:28:41For me it's not about the families now. It's about us. It's just about what we do with what happened
00:28:45How we deal with it? That's it. How do we go from here?
00:28:50Hey
00:28:53What if I missed everyone here's a fan, ah, here we go, I hope everyone wasn't gossiping about me
00:29:03Honestly if adrian had approached this past week with genuine willingness to do the work
00:29:09We would have come in together today and I would have literally spoke his praises. Hi
00:29:17But there's been none of that and it's been an a reoccurring thing
00:29:23Where he's made some bold promises and he just hasn't lived up to it
00:29:28Let's have a chat for a second
00:29:32My family thing I don't want to bring that up with everyone because our families were involved
00:29:38Have you not already done that
00:29:40Yeah, but like I want to talk about it in front of everyone in the sense of like trying to defend it up
00:29:43Because you're gonna defend my family. You just did it
00:29:47Just before I entered the room I could hear adrian talking to everyone
00:29:51And essentially addressing friends and family
00:29:54And then he pulls me aside and goes. Hey, let's not talk about this and I was like, well, hang on a minute
00:30:00I don't think you realize but I actually heard you talking about that day
00:30:04So why is it that only you're allowed to speak?
00:30:07You can talk about it. I'm just gonna say i'm not gonna feel the need to talk about you just did
00:30:11This is the whole control element to what's going on in their relationship what we can talk about what we can't talk about
00:30:16Adrian has one set of rules for himself and a different set for afina
00:30:20But did you not say to me you don't want to talk about it
00:30:23Yeah, but you've done that
00:30:26With only one side. No one's I haven't said anything. I actually said this I said, this is the thing
00:30:35Interesting though, she seems to be pushing back more
00:30:39Yeah, you know she's calling him out. She's not just listening and and staying quiet. It's so confusing adrian
00:30:45You know what you tell me one thing and then you do another you know, make up your mind
00:30:50Usually when I have a conversation with adrian
00:30:53My stomach drops a little when he asked me to do something because I want to do it. I look at him and I
00:31:00Want to heal and I want to fix the situation
00:31:03but I didn't get that feeling today all I felt was
00:31:06Hang on a minute when i'm not present. You can say your piece the moment I come
00:31:12Come around. I have to be silenced. That's not fair
00:31:16I just want to have my voice heard
00:31:20Hello
00:31:24Lauren and clint. Yes, we've actually felt good about walking into the dinner party. It was fun vibe. Hi, sweetheart. Hello
00:31:34Did you say hello to elliot tonight no, I didn't yeah, no, it's gonna go get a drink. Well, that's what
00:31:42The bar was that way he was that way. I know my priorities. Do you want spa? Yes, please
00:31:50Hey
00:31:59Couple dressing they are couple dressing
00:32:05So tony's come up with another story
00:32:07He wants to have a baby
00:32:09That's a lot to take
00:32:12That's not what I signed up for. You know, it's really hard. I'm right there with you. Trust me
00:32:20Wow
00:32:23Oh, oh, here's veronica
00:32:29Yeah, i'm open to talking to elliot tonight but i'm not gonna go out of my way you're all alone
00:32:38I love spending time with the other couples and getting to know them and i'm excited to see
00:32:44Lauren i'm pretty sweaty. So sweaty and look we're both in a corset
00:32:53Elliot's looking nervous
00:32:55My two wives were arm in arm and it was like
00:32:59an unholy alliance
00:33:01I was kind of waiting for the slap basically
00:33:08So interesting because everyone that elliot gets matched with spends a lot of time alone
00:33:14I just realized paul and kareena aren't in yet
00:33:29Nervous quiet in my own head. It's okay
00:33:43So
00:34:06Paul and kareena came in and you can see they're struggling. How are you? How are you going? Okay
00:34:14Paul and kareena i'm looking forward to seeing I guess where they're at. They've had a little bit of a drama
00:34:20I've been better and I can see that it's really affected both of them
00:34:26It's a very different feeling coming into this dinner party with paul. I'm quite anxious
00:34:32Nervous a little uncomfortable
00:34:35And just yeah, not my usual self
00:34:37So
00:34:41Dinner is served
00:35:00It's making me nervous coming into into the group now because
00:35:05I'm gonna
00:35:06Admit to everyone what i've done
00:35:13I did something that i'm really not proud of that i'm still regretting right now
00:35:24I don't know how people are going to react
00:35:27Hopefully i'm not going to be judged too much for that, but if I do then
00:35:33My own fault
00:35:36Sorry
00:35:41So i'm gonna probably straight away i'll probably just get it off my chest and admit to everyone what i've done
00:35:53Sorry, I just want to um
00:36:00Um
00:36:01i'm sure a few of you
00:36:03Have realized that I haven't been my full self walking in here tonight
00:36:11I did something that I absolutely regret
00:36:18Something that is that is absolutely unacceptable
00:36:29Um
00:36:34So
00:36:57Sorry, I just want to um
00:37:01Um
00:37:04I'm sure a few of you have realized that I haven't been my full self walking in here tonight
00:37:15I did something that I absolutely regret
00:37:22Something that is that is absolutely unacceptable. Oh, oh no. Come on. What's happened?
00:37:34Um
00:37:39Um
00:37:43Karina and I we had our first big fight
00:37:47Um
00:37:49After a few things that she said to me that made me feel
00:37:54uh, you know
00:37:56embarrassed and betrayed and and
00:38:00We had a massive argument
00:38:02um
00:38:08Whenever I go through a big fight
00:38:11I'm someone who withdraw and I need my space and I need to be left alone
00:38:15But karina chased me and just asked me to stay and that's when I started to feel trapped
00:38:21And I understand that karina just wanted to resolve the situation straight away
00:38:25She just wanted to be able to go to bed at peace
00:38:28But I felt trapped and I just wanted to leave and obviously that made me even more angry and
00:38:35yeah, and then in just that moment, I just I
00:38:38Everything just happened so fast
00:38:41And then um
00:38:44I
00:38:48Threw a punch in the eye in our bedroom door
00:38:52I
00:38:55Lost control and I punched a hole in the bedroom door
00:39:04Threw a punch
00:39:08In the door
00:39:14It's very serious, yeah, very very very serious. Yeah
00:39:19It's just not the right thing to do it's it's unacceptable it's disgusting and i'm i'm still hating myself for
00:39:27For doing this
00:39:32But it should bother you yes, and it should bother karina
00:39:38I've apologized to karina multiple times. I want to apologize to you again in front of everyone here
00:39:45I am genuinely i'm so sorry for that
00:39:49Um
00:39:51This is this is not me, um, i've never done that before i've never done that in my life
00:39:58That's obviously not going to happen again
00:40:01Well, this is something that can never happen again
00:40:04Not ever paul has behaved in a totally unacceptable way. That's right, and he needs to be able to control his behavior period
00:40:12Yeah
00:40:16Did you notice the energy in the room it's very it's quite low and quiet and
00:40:21Yeah
00:40:22And that just tells me the group just doesn't know how to handle this
00:40:28I think like, you know
00:40:31Where I stand paul and like you're a good mate of mine in here
00:40:34I'd be wrong if I said it didn't let me down a little bit
00:40:38Yeah, I don't I don't condone it at all. So
00:40:42If you're that angry you move away
00:40:45You could just take yourself out of the situation. I don't think
00:40:49That's not okay
00:40:51i've been feeling sick because i've never reacted this way and then I just
00:40:54Oh, i'm just I just I just yeah
00:40:56I'm, just so disappointed in myself in any circumstances where there is heightened emotions and whatnot lashing out physically never acceptable
00:41:05ever under any
00:41:07circumstances
00:41:09So
00:41:11Karina how are you feeling?
00:41:14Yeah, um
00:41:20I can't read her face
00:41:26Um, yeah
00:41:27this behavior
00:41:29Obviously came by surprise
00:41:32It was a little bit of a shock I guess but
00:41:35like honestly like he's not one to
00:41:39be like this
00:41:42He doesn't treat me incorrectly like
00:41:45So
00:41:46I wasn't scared. I'm not scared
00:41:49I'm, not scared to be in the apartment with him
00:41:52And he was so upset about his behavior and what he did so to be able to recognize
00:41:57The behavior and and I know that's not acceptable
00:42:00And I will not accept it or tolerate it, but he understands what he's done
00:42:06He's taking accountability and owning his actions and like I forgive him
00:42:18I'm embarrassed about what happened and how paul acted because paul isn't that type of character at all
00:42:26And you know, it's a very
00:42:28out of character experience
00:42:31We have a very strong relationship
00:42:33and you know, this is real life like we are a real relationship where
00:42:38Fights happen situations happen. It's not all rainbows and butterflies
00:42:44But I hope he learns from this
00:42:47If you have ups and downs, you know
00:42:49And it's just like how do you move forward and I I don't want to throw in the towel and give up
00:42:55Karina is obviously putting on a very brave face. She's very much representing the two of them as a united front, but
00:43:02Surely this has had an impact on her
00:43:05Let's be very clear. There's nothing normal about that behavior. No, there is not
00:43:09There's nothing acceptable about that behavior or appropriate
00:43:17The last thing I want is to karina to feel unsafe around me, um
00:43:22And yeah, so
00:43:25Yeah, sorry again
00:43:29He did take accountability for it but like
00:43:33you know
00:43:34That's something that should be called out that behavior
00:43:38even if you're able to
00:43:41Acknowledge it it's still despicable behavior and that's something I want to have a chat with him about and say like
00:43:47You know hold him to account
00:43:49for one man to another
00:43:51But that wasn't the right time
00:43:55What he did isn't good enough and it's not acceptable he's made a bad mistake and
00:44:00He's hopefully learned from that and doesn't do it again
00:44:07I mean, this is absolutely totally unexpected for this couple. They were really a loved up
00:44:14You know relationship from the word go. Yeah. Yeah
00:44:19This is clearly their biggest challenge
00:44:22And it's a very serious one and this is something that we absolutely have to call out
00:44:28And explore it in great depth
00:44:41So i'm a fish mom now, yeah
00:44:43Oh
00:44:46Um, but we are we're we're navigating through um parenthood
00:44:51I'm the fun mom. Not really. I wish I was he always lets him get away with murder
00:44:58We had our family day as well
00:45:00That was really it was really good. Um, it was good to see
00:45:03Like my mom and her parents with you know, you can see the happiness in their eyes
00:45:07Dave and I I guess are like boring, but it's really good to be boring
00:45:12I mean, he looks like a bloody snack. I'm like
00:45:15Cha-cha slide on him after
00:45:18His mom asked about our sex life on first question with my dad at the table
00:45:23Are you satisfied question was my favorite and my dad acted like he's never seen a table before he's like
00:45:33Jamie and I's bond and
00:45:35Our strengths. I think it's visible to everyone, you know, it's easy to see
00:45:39You know, it gives me a nice warm fuzzy feeling sitting there and knowing that we're going really well
00:45:53It's hard for me to
00:45:55You look around the room and see all the happy couples
00:45:59Because adrian and I
00:46:01We're not okay
00:46:03And I can't put on a front for everyone
00:46:06But it's uncomfortable having to talk about your relationship when things aren't going great
00:46:12Where are you guys at at the moment athena?
00:46:16Um, we're in separate apartments, right? Oh
00:46:21Unfortunately, we had a really upsetting friends and family catch-up
00:46:26Ours went for less than 10 minutes. Oh shit
00:46:31His sisters
00:46:32They asked me what is showing up look like to you because
00:46:36Adrian has shown up for you more than he has any other partner
00:46:40You're not recognizing the good. You're only pointing out his failures
00:46:45I haven't even pointed out his failures at this point. I haven't even said anything at this point. I couldn't even articulate a conversation
00:46:53The reason why that set me so much is because if you see a future with someone
00:46:56Why would you want to alienate them against your friends and family?
00:47:00I
00:47:02Think just at the end of the day
00:47:04There was a lot of false promises made by adrian to me at the commitment ceremony and he didn't
00:47:09He didn't mean any of it because his actions speak louder than words
00:47:14And there was no reconciliation on your end. Okay, there was no redemption week on your end if anything
00:47:20I I i'm actually confused as to why you wrote stay because it it doesn't feel like it was for me. Okay
00:47:26I
00:47:28Mean this is the very key question here, isn't it? Because we challenged him and said
00:47:33Athena's written leave you're saying stay
00:47:37So you're gonna have to up your game here
00:47:39On the couch, so you said it's my turn to show up. So how did you show up?
00:47:45Did you see a change in his behavior? Yeah, okay. Okay. Perfect example. Yes, perfect example
00:47:51She's not seen it
00:47:53We went we went for a walk I said hey come for a walk together so that was me trying to make an effort
00:48:00Um
00:48:03I've been showing up. I asked athena to go for a walk
00:48:10What that's wow, are you joking? How aren't you married already?
00:48:18And then um
00:48:21And then so I said let's let's make let's watch a movie tonight
00:48:26Did we watch a movie yeah because we finished late 10 o'clock and we got tired and then um
00:48:31So you didn't yes. Yeah, so we didn't watch a movie that night because it was late
00:48:36And then um
00:48:38I messaged her and I was just like oh, hey
00:48:40Let's go for dinner so we can we can sort of come to turn dinner. No, we watched cabin late
00:48:45So
00:48:49Have you guys gone out for a nice dinner, yeah, of course, so we haven't won so here we have no we haven't
00:48:58We went to nando's
00:49:04Plot twist
00:49:06Yeah, we went to nando's together
00:49:08What's wrong with nando's?
00:49:10Adrian adrian if your siblings reckon
00:49:13This is the most you've shown up in a relationship then you must have just been breathing in your other ones
00:49:17That's what?
00:49:19All he had to do was exist next to his other girlfriend
00:49:24Everyone's missing how i'm feeling has anyone heard he what I need
00:49:32Do i'm not existing this relationship that my friend does not exist do I need not exist
00:49:36You're so focused on the negatives and what I don't do you never you never see what I actually do
00:49:41Doesn't matter what I do. I can literally say
00:49:43I've moved mountains for her and have it on recording and people will
00:49:47Everyone on this table will still say no you didn't and athena will say no you didn't that's not it's good enough
00:49:51It's not showing up. So
00:49:53Forget it, bro. It doesn't matter what I do. It's not good enough
00:49:55I can't even listen to him
00:49:57It's pretty obvious that adrian's done nothing to show up for athena
00:50:01Since the last skin movement ceremony nothing
00:50:04How do I show up then? How do I show up then just be more understanding?
00:50:07That's all just like stop being so combative and actually understand. I'm just i'm just putting my side
00:50:13She likes you adrian. She wants it to work. She likes you
00:50:17She wants to give you the best chance. She's not hard to please. She's really not
00:50:24I'm honestly really fed up with how adrian treats athena the look on her face just goes to show how sad she is
00:50:31Whatever you're doing is wrong
00:50:33Just admit that you haven't done
00:50:36Anything that the experts set you to do to improve your relationship
00:50:40Do you think you did absolutely everything you could have done this week because that's that's what this week was about again, right?
00:50:45Yes, I think I did it for me
00:50:47Yeah in my mind. I tried the best
00:50:49I didn't come here for a lesson. I came here for a life partner
00:50:53And I think there's just only so many times someone can let you down with their actions
00:50:58That you just stop
00:51:01trying so hard
00:51:03Do you know what adrian?
00:51:04I feel like there's been so many times where you've asked me what I need from a partner and the reason why
00:51:09You still don't know it because you don't actually care enough to listen
00:51:13Surely he understands we're both exhausted, right?
00:51:18We're not working
00:51:20So why are you staying if not to do the actual work?
00:51:24I'm done talking about it. What are you pushing?
00:51:26I don't have nothing to say
00:51:37Still to come I felt like I actually didn't owe you an apology
00:51:42Jackie confronts ring i've taken it back after I've realized there's no acceptance in there
00:51:47But jackie, hang on just two seconds. Can you just let me speak? You've had your chance
00:51:52You've humiliated me in front of everyone now. Let me speak
00:51:57So
00:52:07Yeah, how are you guys going pretty in pink the friends and family how was it come on spill the beans
00:52:16It's it's it's
00:52:20I'm caught of
00:52:22This week i'm it's been it's been hard for me honestly moreno, you know i'm struggling so that's how i'm feeling at the moment
00:52:35You've had that from day one when you found out i'm 57
00:52:38Okay
00:52:40No enough don't even don't even bring it up. You guys weren't at the wedding
00:52:44You weren't there. I understand that you
00:52:47Wanted someone young. Oh, I know now why because we found out our family and friends
00:52:53Because we found out the plot of why tony doesn't want a 57. Why and what was it?
00:53:00He would like to have a baby
00:53:06Tony wants a baby
00:53:09Well, this is the first we've heard of it. Yes
00:53:11Why wouldn't you just tell me that at the start?
00:53:14I
00:53:18Have god-sensing triplets cheers
00:53:27This is where I have the problem because when you get angry
00:53:31And and and challenge everyone and talk to everybody the way you do pushes me away even more
00:53:37You know how beautiful you are and how pretty you are
00:53:40But your personality gives me the shits, man
00:53:44So
00:53:50Wow
00:53:51That's harsh. Yeah, he's
00:53:54Reached his threshold
00:53:56This is where I am having my problem mate. I'm sorry, but that's how I feel
00:54:02I've got a lot of love to give
00:54:05I deserve that back
00:54:09I deserve to shine
00:54:11I deserve to be treated like a lady. I know what i'm looking for
00:54:19And it's
00:54:21Not to have a baby
00:54:29All right, beth and tj we're doing well, yeah, we're doing great. Sorry. Sorry guys
00:54:35Drama
00:54:37Pressure's on isn't it for our new couples?
00:54:39They've seen the way the other couples are getting on or not getting on in some cases
00:54:43And they know that in order to be a part of this group. They need to fast track their relationship
00:54:49So we had to do the um, it was like an intimacy
00:54:52Yeah sexual desire
00:54:54And it was just like all those questions are great
00:54:58but um
00:55:00They're they're probably more suitable in a potentially a few weeks or a few months for us
00:55:05You know like talking dirty to each other
00:55:08I I tried it this morning, but try and pick it up again
00:55:13But um, I said just the way she was spreading her toast it was just so erotic
00:55:19But nah, that's joke. Nah, she doesn't have toast anyway
00:55:23I think we definitely like we're building a really good friendship and I think like friendship is always the basis for me in any relationship
00:55:29Friendship
00:55:31Clint is the you know most supportive person ever
00:55:35So I think like it's a strong foundation that we've that we're building like we both have a lot of respect for each other
00:55:41which is refreshing
00:55:43and
00:55:44So yeah
00:55:48Veronica and elliot you came in individually. We want to know what's up
00:55:54Uh, obviously we had
00:55:56To do tasks this week. So we got the confession letter
00:56:01and
00:56:03I
00:56:06Um, it's okay babe, I know I know it's okay
00:56:12So I was very
00:56:15disheartened when
00:56:17Elliot told me his story about his sister
00:56:20because
00:56:22In telling me that story
00:56:24You didn't mention anything at all about how the story impacted you
00:56:29Like I didn't learn a single thing about you
00:56:32And all I know is that your sister has diabetes now
00:56:38She has to be on medication
00:56:42I got nothing from it
00:56:50Well from my perspective
00:56:52I put everything into my story. That was me being so deep and so vulnerable
00:56:59And then for it to come back as like
00:57:02Oh, no, that's not good enough. It was like that that to me was like it's hurtful. Yeah, like it hurt so I was then hurt
00:57:11And then it went in this spiral of like so so my pain isn't good enough
00:57:19That's what it felt like
00:57:23So
00:57:29What was your pain though
00:57:33Because I don't know how you feel about that situation having my younger sister fall into a coma
00:57:41And grapple with this illness for her whole life
00:57:53I
00:57:55I
00:57:57I
00:57:59I
00:58:01I
00:58:03I
00:58:05I
00:58:07I
00:58:09I
00:58:11I
00:58:13I
00:58:15I
00:58:17I
00:58:19I
00:58:21That's what it felt like
00:58:27What was your pain though
00:58:29Because I don't know how you feel about that situation having my younger sister fall into a coma
00:58:35And grapple with this illness for her whole life
00:58:39It was the fact that it was the person that I care for
00:58:42Like most in the whole world my baby sister
00:58:44It was so traumatizing
00:58:47That memory affects me to this day
00:58:51I never want to feel like i've lost control of my emotions
00:58:55That's why it was my pain
00:59:00Veronica made it sound like it wasn't really an important issue of what elliot had confessed but then when he
00:59:08Like mentioned his sister was in like a coma
00:59:11That is something that's quite significant
00:59:15Veronica, I understand how you want more feeling but it is a bit unfair to be like well, that's not
00:59:20Empathy that's enough empathy. I never said that's not good enough. I never said those words
00:59:24I said i'm disappointed because I don't feel like I understand you more
00:59:28I mean you could imagine here elliot feeling very judged. Yeah, because he has made a real effort
00:59:34He is judged because she was just rolling her eyes. Yeah V. Can I just ask?
00:59:39Do you think that maybe that was elliot trying to be as deep as he could in that moment?
00:59:43Listen, it maybe wasn't as deep as you wanted it. That was that was his reality
00:59:49I agree and that's what I said when I came back into the room. I said to you
00:59:52Maybe that's all you've got but at the time I was disappointed
00:59:57I think elliot can learn so much from how you approach things. What can I learn from elliot?
01:00:01Maybe to be patient
01:00:07Just put yourself in the flip situation, maybe it's hard for him to say those things
01:00:11He's still he's open to learning like I think that's pretty mature considering his past situation
01:00:17I think you guys need to work together on these and I think veronica. That's what you can learn patience
01:00:23100 I do not have patience. I know that about myself like i'm not done
01:00:30It was interesting to hear the perspectives of obviously everyone else in the group on you know how elliot's feeling
01:00:37and I do acknowledge that
01:00:39You know, maybe I do
01:00:41Want more than he can give me
01:00:44at the moment
01:00:47So
01:00:49Do you both want it to work though like are you both willing to work on your relationship or not?
01:00:59This is important do you do you both want to move forward and work on your relationship?
01:01:03This is the most important question I guess
01:01:09You do
01:01:12Amazing good job elliot. Do you want to?
01:01:15Yeah, fantastic
01:01:19Tonight was probably, you know best case scenario in terms of how things unfolded
01:01:28But we came into it very icy and we came out with some hope
01:01:35So
01:01:44Tonight I have some things I want to address to the group about rape
01:01:49It is about behavior that's been directed towards me that I do not tolerate
01:01:54So i'm sick of being a doormat i'm gonna stand up for myself. I don't tolerate that behavior
01:01:58She's been really disrespectful and rude and honestly, I hope there's some justices down today
01:02:04There's something that's been weighing on my mind a lot and I feel like I need to address it
01:02:11And kind of um just stand up for myself on this one
01:02:16So I guess like the last time everyone saw us was at the commitment ceremony and
01:02:22So I felt really disrespected. Um
01:02:29That's all right
01:02:31I've been crying a lot this week. Um, just based on what you did, right?
01:02:39What'd she do yeah, what did she actually do
01:02:42So I think like taking your relationship time
01:02:46at the last commitment ceremony
01:02:48um to throw shade and humiliate ridicule, um
01:02:52And say mean things about another bride. Um isn't those are really big words
01:02:58Let her talk let her talk everyone's had an opportunity everyone's had an opportunity you'll let my wife talk
01:03:04You let my wife talk now, right?
01:03:08I would really like some respect just so that I can say this. Um
01:03:13Honest to god jackie's sense of reality. Sometimes it's something else
01:03:18You really hurt me
01:03:21You did
01:03:23Jackie right a prime example. We're gonna we've resolved something but let's just keep bringing it up
01:03:28So she's kicking off it again
01:03:30You just spent that time
01:03:32basically
01:03:33Discrediting me which I felt like undermined the very purpose of these commitment ceremonies, which is actually to work on your relationship
01:03:41I feel like um the whole texting jeff situation. Like I feel like you took it too far
01:03:53And I felt like that had nothing to do with your relationship
01:03:56And I apologized for that
01:04:00And I felt like I actually didn't owe you an apology
01:04:08Please let me speak
01:04:11I actually let a lot of things slide with you. I even apologized but you're not sorry. I was genuine. Sorry because you
01:04:17Just said you i've taken it back after I realized there's no acceptance in here jackie. Hang on just two seconds
01:04:23Can you just let me speak? You've had your chance. You've humiliated me in front of everyone now. Let me speak
01:04:41I feel like um the whole
01:04:44Texting jeff situation. I felt like I actually didn't owe you an apology
01:04:50You're just saying you're sorry, but you're not sorry I was genuine. Sorry because I
01:04:54Just said you i've taken it back after I realized there's no acceptance in here jackie. Hang on just two seconds
01:05:00You've had your chance
01:05:02In front of everyone now, let me speak
01:05:04Me
01:05:09Wait, so you apologize to re but you're pissed off at re
01:05:14Make that make sense
01:05:17You can't make sense of it
01:05:19I don't stand for that behavior. I don't tolerate
01:05:22I'm, not okay with that
01:05:24Jackie you text
01:05:26re's husband
01:05:28And then you want an apology for that that doesn't make sense. Why are you still
01:05:34Bringing it up and ridiculing me and shaming me
01:05:37Ridiculing because they asked about how my relationship was going and how it's got nothing to do with your relationship. What are you talking about?
01:05:46Your drama
01:05:48Excuse me, it's between her and I
01:05:50Your drama brought heaviness on our relationship and I said our relationship was going great. Although
01:05:56Outside external drama has brought heaviness on our relationship
01:05:59I
01:06:02Haven't done anything to create this drama. You started this with contacting my
01:06:07Husband and asking me not to be there. So this is a you issue. This is not a me issue
01:06:13I've tried to be understanding but it's impossible to understand someone who is extremely
01:06:19Inconsistent with their emotions and she cannot let things go
01:06:23Jackie, how'd this start? How did this start? How did this all this conflict? How did all this conflict start?
01:06:28No, you were the ones that did it. I was one. You're the one that started this whole thing Jackie
01:06:32This is what handle started starting. Oh, hey, you text me behind her back. So you didn't start it. I
01:06:40Thought Ryan and Jackie's attack on re and myself is a bit of a joke tonight
01:06:45I'm sick and tired of talking about it want to concentrate on my relationship with Ray and that's all I want
01:06:49That's all I'm worried about
01:06:51Jackie, I actually don't want to fight with you. And I'm actually I'm actually really done with it. Okay
01:06:56Do you want to put this behind us? I do I do okay
01:07:02Really hoping that we can move forward after today and just not talk about this because I'm really done with Jackie's drama
01:07:09When we had our commitment ceremony and we talked about how we felt in our relationships Jeff and I yes
01:07:15We are going great and I'm very very grateful for Jeff in saying that the drama that you have now
01:07:21Introduced to our relationship was quite heavy on our relationship in which we discussed multiple times
01:07:28So I was just explaining what had happened and I'm really really genuinely. Sorry that that made you feel bad in front of everybody
01:07:38Thank you, that means a lot
01:07:41Yeah, I
01:07:47Said what I needed to say and I got an apology for the behavior. I thought that was unacceptable
01:07:54Perhaps maybe she'll get the message and it will just stop and disappear. Yeah