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00:00I have uh, I don't know if you want to consider this breaking news or not, but I found this on the internet
00:04Yes, there's multiple outlets report. There's one outlet specifically reporting but it's a real outlet
00:08Okay, it's not we're not getting sports talk ball sacked. I don't think so or eric shunned
00:12I don't think that's happening to me good because it's uh, denver sports
00:17104.3 the uh, the sports station out in denver. It's a verified account. It's got whatever however many followers, okay
00:25Uh per sources, yeah, that's multiple. Yeah, plural rob
00:29Gronkowski wants to return to the nfl and the broncos are expected to be in the mix
00:34Wow, grog back. What do you think of that?
00:37He would be catching passes from bo nix who wouldn't want to catch passes from bo nix
00:42I mean look, it seems kind of like a fake story
00:44It that doesn't it seems like it's just a guy that wants to be like talked about again
00:48But and why denver it's oddly specific though. So what does that mean? Does that mean he like went on the air in denver?
00:54uh
00:56Worked with sean payton, so he might go to denver. That's what the that's what the connection is
01:01Is that what the guy said? So this guy's cecil lamay?
01:05Is a cecil shorts the old jacksonville wide receiver who went to division three mountain union? Oh nice
01:09Yeah, cecil short's one of the great d3 players of all time though
01:12There's a guy who covers the broncos for somebody he's talking about this now
01:15It could be full of crap, but he he's reporting it and other outlets are talking about it
01:19Do you think he you think he's nervous that uh, we now all consider travis kelsey, uh,
01:24The greatest tight end of all time. Well, we all don't well, we all should but we don't say no
01:28He needed the chief pete to really cement it. I I say no I do and have uh ever since he matched rob
01:34Gronkowski in superbowls gronk technically has four but he only played in well only one
01:39Three as a player the other one martellus bennett actually was the tight end of the supermark should be fresh though
01:43He's taking three years off but but if he's coming back, isn't it something like that?
01:47Like he thinks kelsey pet. Why else would he come back? I don't know to play with not tom brady
01:50He hates doing the tv thing. Yeah, he hasn't gotten any better at that. He is not that's not really
01:55I don't think the best use of his skill set you want him here
01:57His best thing is when he's on like edelman's podcast you want him here? Uh,
02:02Yeah, i'll take him
02:03He's probably better than that's not much of an endorsement. Yeah
02:07Mercedes lewis on your team for the 15th year in a row
02:12Well for all the gronk people out there he should at least come back and block right like even if he's not catching passes
02:16He should come back and block three guys a blocker three out of the club. That's sergio brown
02:19Don't ask sergio brown. What what a player he threw out of the club
02:23Off the ground out in indy. So I mean if nothing else gronk will come back and he'll block right?
02:26All you gronk blocker people out there. You must want that. Yeah, no one's coming out of retirement to block
02:32That's true
02:34If if he comes back i'm dubious of this story keith, but if you are if he comes back
02:39Yeah, it's because he's threatened in some way by kelsey, right?
02:42Like why else would he come back maybe or just straight boredom and maybe his body feels good
02:46He's like I haven't been hit for three straight years
02:49Everything has retired and unretired before but it wasn't this long of a layoff
02:52Uh, no, this would be much longer. He sat out for one season. He didn't play in 2019
02:57When's the last time he played 21?
02:59But two he played two years with tampa. Yeah, that's a long time. Uh, he's still young though. No, I know he's 36
03:04He's still kelsey's. Oh, i'm sorry 35 as you pointed out keith the the age doesn't change
03:08There's they've always been the same age. They're always gonna not still the same age as kelsey
03:11They're always the same age. God willing. They always will be but yeah, I don't know what to make of that
03:16We've seen nfl guys retire and come back including like you said gronk himself
03:21But uh, yeah, I don't really know what the he should he should go and replace kelsey in kansas city when kelsey retires
03:26I would really play with my home that would really settle some debates wouldn't it?
03:29Well, he's never not played for brady. So it'd be interesting to see so does this mean brady's coming back, too?
03:34Closer to the raiders. Yeah
03:36He's going to the raiders rock to the raiders brady and brock bowers brady halfway through the ural is like
03:41Oh, wow, that'd be a good duo that answers why he's not gonna be playing if if gronk played right now
03:46Where would he rank amongst tight ends fantasy tight ends? Sure. No, like just nfl tight ends
03:52He might be seven. I mean tight end is not a great position. No, it's not falls off a cliff
03:56He's worse than the kid from penn state coming into the draft. Okay, like tyler warren. Tyler warren's a machine so like
04:01Brock bowers sam laporta
04:04I mean, there's not a lot of great ones kelsey if he comes back tyler warren. That's it
04:08Is he better than hunter henry fryer moose? I bet he's better than hunter
04:11I also bet he's better than hunter henry and hunter henry is pretty good last year. Oh the moose
04:15Yeah, I take fire moose over grok now. I don't know
04:18Maybe I might leave fryer mooth there. You might maybe yeah
04:22Not mark andrews anymore
04:24Not after
04:25Last time we saw mark andrews. No, thanks. Isaiah likely though. Isaiah like yeah
04:29Likely and fryer mooth and uh, noah gray all massachusetts guys
04:33Tight it's a tight end. I knew hotbed here in massachusetts. I knew likely
04:37What'd you say? No likely fryer mooth and noah gray are all massachusetts. I only knew isaiah likely everett
04:42I didn't know the other the mooth is from like newbury port and uh, we looked this up during the superbowl
04:47Really? You should count that for new hampshire. That's basically new hampshire. It really is. Yeah
04:51No, noah gray. We looked this up. Where did he play high school? He was born in laconia, new hampshire
04:57And then he played at lemonster
04:59No, gray, so really if you want to be a tight end grow up in massachusetts
05:03Okay, your best bet
05:04Uh, you're on crack if you think a glorified wide receiver kelsey is better than tight. I'm drunk
05:09Uh jones, you're on crap. Well, you tell me why is gronk coming back? I'm not reliving. He's not wrong
05:13He's not threatened by trap. Well, you're the one who brought up gronk. He's not I brought up gronk
05:16I didn't have any comparisons
05:18Then why do you think he's coming back?
05:19I think after three years off I think he hates being a commentator and he wants to get paid a lot of money to go
05:24Play football and his body feels good. I'm on crack and gronk is considering on retiring. Okay, first part might be true. Okay
05:29Uh, yeah, don't isolate that six one seven seven seven nine
05:33Seven nine three jones has been suspended for two days
05:36Clean his life up
05:37Uh, I thought that was an interesting answer from brable. Uh all gronk breaking news, uh aside
05:42I thought that was an interesting answer. He said we got to get him guys who can make contest. Yes catches
05:45Yeah, I agree with that
05:47I don't necessarily make contest catches. I think you kind of need that. It's the nfl
05:51I want to go. I want a guy who can get open over a guy who makes contested catches
05:55All right. Well, I think
05:56Contested catches means you're probably not open
05:59Yeah, I mean I guess but I think there's also some of those guys that can do that and whether that's you know
06:04Golan, not golan, but like red zone. No, the best guys in the league can do all of them
06:09I don't want a guy who never gets open
06:11I mean, I think that's sort of implied
06:12But some guys could only catch it. We were talking about this with devante parker
06:15It's like devante parker great contested guy, which turns out is not he did have a good line though about oh 50 50 balls
06:21Or like 80 20 when it's me, you're like, yeah 20
06:24Catch he meant for the defense
06:26We all just misinterpreted what he meant. He was actually dead on he tried to tell us
06:30No, I mean I mean drake may needs all the help he can get obviously, right?
06:34I agree with that, but now I gotta pick do I wanna do I want a guy who can get open?
06:38But doesn't make contested catches or do I want a contested catch guy who can't really get open?
06:42I I want I want that first thing gotcha is how I would skew the best receivers can do all of it
06:47You know, jamar chase can make contested catches and he'll run away from you
06:50What would you say? Let's go back to kronk for a second. What would you say? He did more?
06:54He's more of a contested catch. That's what I think. Yeah, but i'm okay with at tight end
06:56I'm, probably more okay with a contest. Oh my gosh. Yeah at wide receiver. I think it's I think it's different
07:00Yeah, you want the wide open just blowing doors like a dk metcalf. Yeah, it's like that guy
07:06If i'm gonna be consistent kelsey is a guy who gets open kelsey's definitely an open guy. Yeah, I feel like he's always open
07:11I don't know. I haven't seen him make many contested catches in his career. So look maybe i'll take that back
07:14Maybe at tight end. I want a guy who can get open either way
07:17But I wonder how many tight ends truly are separators
07:20I mean most tight ends don't really move hunter henry's a great example hunter henry's not a separator
07:25No hunter henry and put it on him. He'll probably catch it, but he's not open by much
07:28He might hand it to the other team. There's not much of a window there. Yeah, no, I don't know
07:32So but that's how I would skew at wide receiver
07:34That doesn't sound like what vrabel would answer but he did basically circle back to the trenches and that's important and look at the suit
07:40well, yeah, no, he definitely was talking about that now the other thing with kern was uh,
07:45I didn't ask him this specifically because it's february but
07:48Polk and baker were two big swings and misses by elliot wolf
07:52And he was on the staff when they drafted pop douglas and booty who both look better
07:58But do you think all four of those guys are guaranteed a spot on the team next year god?
08:02No, they shouldn't be
08:03The only one I would I don't even want to guarantee a spot to pop douglas
08:06But if i'm going to guarantee a spot to any of them, it's him. So like polk could be one and done
08:10Yeah, I think he probably should be but I just wanted that's such a high pick
08:13Yeah, now mike vrabel would say I didn't take him. I don't take a hike
08:16I don't know what they're gonna do. But if you're asking me, yeah one and done
08:19I guess it depends on how many guys they get like how many receivers do they have before the draft?
08:24Because that was vrabel's point that might have been the one thing I took away the most from his press conference this morning was
08:30He wants to be like ready to line up and go before the draft. I thought it was a great answer
08:34Yeah, it was it was his question about free agencies like we want to plug all the holes in free agencies
08:38So we let the draft come to us but now so he said that and we're going to remember that
08:42So when the draft rolls around in two months
08:45If the offensive line hasn't changed significantly or the receivers haven't changed significantly
08:51Doesn't that tell you either they have like they're forced into having a false sense of confidence in the guys they have or they actually
08:56Kind of are drafting guys that are going to have to play right away. Yeah
08:59Yeah, one of those two things for sure and look i'm okay with having jaylen polk in camp
09:03I don't need to cut him tomorrow. I don't know jaylen polk come to camp
09:06But if you have a crappy camp, but it doesn't look like you made any progress you're cut
09:09He's not guaranteed a spot. I want to play this exchange, too
09:12This is the first question karen gregion, uh, let off the press conference. Not that you could hear it
09:16You can't hear no, but uh, she asked about josh mcdaniels and I I mean listen as he talks this felt
09:23Exceptionally lukewarm to me that when vrabel was talking about josh mcdaniels
09:26Just looking at the staff extremely proud of the staff that we were able to put together
09:30So by the way, the questions about josh
09:31Yeah, this is a bell check thing when you ask him about like mikhail harry and he'll be like well
09:35The group is doing this right? So just start with that. Just just he's asked specifically about mcdaniels
09:40He's like, well, let me start with the whole group
09:42So already you're like, okay, keep going just looking at the staff extremely proud of the staff that we were able to put together
09:48Uh, it's difficult. Um
09:51in the national football league to be able to get
09:53You know every coach that you may covet or may want to get outside the coordinators that you know
09:58Aren't a coordinator at somewhere else just because of the roles like teams are under contract
10:02Some teams want to keep the coaches that they have they feel like they're good coaches
10:05but we were able to
10:07Put together a great staff one that we're really proud of and you asked about josh and I would say that yeah
10:12You know having had communications with josh and in my role in cleveland, uh, he wasn't
10:17Um under contract with the team so we had numerous conversations
10:22Okay
10:23interviewed a handful of great candidates and
10:25You know in the end felt like josh was the best fit to to lead our offense
10:29Just like torell was the best fit to to lead our defense and jeremy and tom
10:34were turning to
10:35To lead the special teams unit
10:38So I mean to me, okay, I go into this very bias. I don't think he picked mcdaniels
10:42I think he continues to illustrate that he's letting you know. Yeah. I mean whatever I talked to josh
10:47There were a lot of guys we talked to we kind of ended up with josh
10:49Lukewarm as I would describe that. Yeah, I would have to agree. He also
10:54Does he in a way kind of confirm that he wanted tommy reese?
10:57Yeah, I think so the way he's like hey
10:59We talked to some good guys and there are guys around the league that stayed with their teams and weren't available
11:04So it's like hey, what do you think about josh?
11:05Well, there were guys out there that had to stay with their team. So of the guys available
11:10Like I wouldn't be surprised if that
11:12That's how I kind of read it the whole time is there might be guys that were associated with rable in the past
11:16He had four different offensive coordinators in tennessee
11:19at least three of them have jobs right now, including one of them is the head coach of the packers, but
11:24He had like arthur smith like the guys that are on teams and then there was the connection to tommy reese
11:29And he got promoted in cleveland. So you're saying
11:32Of the guys who are available, maybe mcdaniels is his top choice
11:36Yeah, but if you're talking about like everybody in the world like no, he's not his top choice
11:39I think the way you put it before is is right. It's like all right
11:42Well, most of the options that I really wanted are either sticking with their team arthur smith or getting promoted tommy reese
11:48So when kraft says josh mcdaniels he goes sure
11:51But that doesn't mean he wanted him or picked him or like that was his guy
11:54That just means they kind of went ass backwards into it or at least from rable's perspective
11:57Ass backwards into it and I think you hear there. It's a lukewarm answer about josh mcdaniels
12:02Which is something we're going to follow all offseason long