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00:00I'm allergic to peppers and carrots, so I don't like kids.
00:06I'm like, no, don't say things like that to a kid.
00:09But when I eat it, I get allergic to it.
00:12I don't want people to understand that.
00:14The theme of tonight's Deep Talk is...
00:17I'm allergic to dust, so when I change my clothes, I risk my life.
00:22When I put gluten in my body, I feel like my face is getting bigger.
00:28Your face?
00:29Due to the immune system that protects the body,
00:31some parts of the body and the whole body are allergic.
00:35According to some research data,
00:3760% of Japanese people have some kind of allergic reaction.
00:41It is also known as national disease.
00:44So, the theme of tonight's Deep Talk is...
00:47Allergy.
00:49It's a lot more severe than a normal person's allergy.
00:53If you go to a dermatologist and get a blood test,
00:57they say it's 100 times worse than a normal person's allergy.
01:00Soba, peanuts.
01:02I can't eat anything but white fish.
01:04I can't eat eggs, I can't eat natto.
01:06I can't eat all dairy products.
01:08I can't eat school lunches.
01:11I have to make it with my family and take it with me.
01:13My friend told me that I can't eat all the blue food coloring.
01:18For example, if there is a lot of blue food coloring in melon soda or blue Hawaii,
01:23you can get a kidney disease.
01:25I think it's pretty bad.
01:28However, people around her don't understand allergies.
01:32I have a fruit allergy.
01:34When I go to a cafe,
01:36they say,
01:38there's only a little bit of fruit in the tart,
01:40so you can eat it.
01:42It's not a problem like that.
01:44This woman has a peanut allergy.
01:47It happened to be in one of the sweets my friend brought.
01:52It was handmade, so I didn't notice it.
01:54It's called anaphylactic shock.
01:56It can be difficult to breathe.
01:58I've had a symptom that involves life.
02:02So tonight, we're going to talk deeply about allergies.
02:07A night where Uyakozuna roars deeply.
02:14This program is a talk show for adults talking about deep topics.
02:17The theme of this time is allergies.
02:19Do you have any allergies?
02:21Yes, I have a hay fever.
02:24I also have an allergic rhinitis.
02:27The reason why I have an allergic rhinitis is that
02:30I can't get it even if I get a checkup.
02:32You can't get it even if you get a checkup?
02:34I was told that there was nothing wrong with my nose.
02:38So I've been taking medicine for about 10 years.
02:41What kind of hay fever is it?
02:43It's a hay fever.
02:45I cry when I'm not supposed to cry.
02:47You can't stop your runny nose?
02:49I don't have a runny nose.
02:51I don't have a runny nose.
02:53But you can't help it.
02:55It's a symptom.
02:57It seems that only one of you has an allergy.
03:01I've listed what kind of allergies you have.
03:05You all have hay fever.
03:07You have food.
03:09What's your hay fever like?
03:12It's already past New Year's.
03:14It's already here.
03:16It reacts to the soil.
03:18It causes skin problems and itches.
03:20And then hay fever.
03:22It also reacts to the hay fever.
03:24It's a little bit of a reaction to the hay fever.
03:26It's hard every season.
03:28How about you?
03:30I have hay fever all year round.
03:32It's really hard.
03:37Hay fever is serious.
03:39Isn't it hard to work in front of people all year round?
03:42It's hard.
03:44In the past, I used to have a hoarse voice, but now my voice is even more hoarse.
03:49People think that I used to have a hoarse voice.
03:52I see.
03:53Is there a lot of people in the world who have hay fever?
03:58About 40% of Japanese people have hay fever.
04:02And in the past 25 years, hay fever has increased exponentially.
04:07Especially hay pollen.
04:09This is unique to Japan.
04:11As a result of planting hay hard to compensate for the lack of wood,
04:16hay fever has increased.
04:18This is a big problem now.
04:20How about you, Ririko?
04:21I was born in Sweden.
04:23When I was born, I didn't have hay fever at all.
04:27When I was 7 years old, I moved to Ikiya.
04:30There was a white birch tree in the surrounding garden.
04:34So I got hay fever.
04:37When I was 18, I moved to Japan.
04:39There was no white birch tree.
04:41I thought I was lucky.
04:42I was welcomed.
04:44Welcome.
04:46It was worse than a white birch tree.
04:51I don't think Ririko has hay fever.
04:53But she looks stronger than an allergy.
04:56I thought I had hay fever.
05:00But I was defeated.
05:03Our immune system works to protect our body.
05:08But if our immune system reacts excessively and we are defeated by the enemy,
05:12we get an allergy.
05:14Many people think they get an allergy because their immune system is weak.
05:19In fact, it happens because the immune system is too strong.
05:23Does that mean you get hay fever because your immune system reacts excessively?
05:27That's right.
05:28You know it.
05:31I totally agree with you.
05:33How about you, Ito?
05:35I also have hay fever.
05:37I had hay fever for a long time.
05:40I went to a village with a lot of white birch trees.
05:46It was getting worse.
05:49My face was swollen at the end.
05:52I looked like a different person.
05:54I went there.
05:55I got an allergy.
05:57I didn't have it before.
05:59I thought there were too many white birch trees in the village.
06:03I see.
06:05Do you take medicine for hay fever?
06:07Yes, I do.
06:08There is a medicine I take every day.
06:10If I don't take it, I can't work.
06:13So I carry it around like a charm.
06:15If I forget it and go to a local location,
06:17people say,
06:18I can't go there. What should I do?
06:21It's mentally hard.
06:23Yes.
06:24I took a medicine for hay fever.
06:27I put a lot of hay pollen in my tongue.
06:31I took it every day.
06:33I took it for four days and stopped taking it.
06:37Why did you stop taking it?
06:38I thought it would get worse if I put a lot of it in my body.
06:42You were afraid of it psychologically.
06:44Yes.
06:45Is it a very effective medicine?
06:48Yes.
06:49As a fundamental solution,
06:51I took a medicine for hay fever.
06:53I took it for three years.
06:55Three years?
06:57You stopped taking it on the fourth day of the third year?
07:00Will it get better?
07:02If you can't take it,
07:04I recommend Zorea injection.
07:06Zorea?
07:07Yes.
07:08What is it?
07:09Zorea is an antibiotic that neutralizes
07:12protein that causes allergies.
07:15Basically, if you take it once a month,
07:18it's a treatment for drinking medicine.
07:21It has a dramatic effect on people with hay fever.
07:23I take it because it's bad for me.
07:25Really?
07:26How does it work?
07:28It's really good.
07:29I take it twice a year.
07:31It's really good.
07:33I see.
07:34What kind of treatment do you take?
07:38My hay fever is getting better.
07:41I can't eat anything.
07:45What kind of food?
07:46I can't eat apples, peaches,
07:49and things I often get as a gift.
07:53I can't eat anything.
07:55I can't eat nuts.
07:57What happens when you eat nuts?
07:59My mouth gets itchy.
08:01The same goes for fruits.
08:03My teeth and roots get itchy.
08:08I get itchy.
08:10People think I don't like sweets.
08:15That's not true.
08:17People don't understand.
08:19When I ask if I have nuts in my mouth,
08:21they look at the cake and say,
08:23I don't think I have nuts in my mouth.
08:25That's not true.
08:27I have nuts in my mouth,
08:29so sometimes I have nuts in my cream.
08:32I refuse to be on TV shows
08:35where I eat nuts.
08:37I'm sorry.
08:38I see.
08:39In fact, allergies to nuts,
08:41such as walnuts and cashews,
08:43are increasing in Japan.
08:45In the past, the three major allergens in Japan
08:47were eggs, milk, and wheat.
08:50However, since Japanese life has become Westernized,
08:53in 2023, allergies to eggs, nuts, and milk will change.
08:58Ms. Kojima, do you have an allergy to food?
09:02I just heard what Ms. Ririko said,
09:04and I thought I finally met one.
09:07But I can't eat cherry tomatoes.
09:09One time, I suddenly got an allergy.
09:11I love cherry tomatoes.
09:13It's great to be an adult.
09:15I can eat as much as I want.
09:17I was eating American cherries,
09:19and I suddenly got a sore throat.
09:22It was itchy.
09:24The allergist told me
09:26that I had an allergy to a plant called pannokika.
09:31It's called cross-reaction,
09:34and it can cause allergies to food made from roses.
09:38I was told that it might be the case.
09:41Even now, when I'm eating apples or roses,
09:45I'm worried that I might get an allergy.
09:48I didn't know that pollen allergies
09:50were related to food allergies.
09:53I didn't know either.
09:55This is called pollen-plant-allergy syndrome,
09:58and it's in the group of pannokika.
10:01If you have this allergy,
10:03you can't eat fruits made from roses,
10:05or soy milk, for example.
10:08Pollen has a structure similar to that of fruits and vegetables,
10:13so when you think of pollen,
10:15you start attacking and get an allergy.
10:19But in this group,
10:21if you heat it up, you can eat it.
10:26So you can eat carrots in curry.
10:30I see.
10:32If you heat it up.
10:34I've heard that, like Mr. Kojima,
10:37if you eat a lot of food you like,
10:39you might get an allergy.
10:41It's been said for a long time.
10:43If you eat a lot of food you like,
10:45you might get an allergy.
10:48That's the theory of pollen.
10:50It's very famous.
10:52But that's not the way people think these days.
10:54It's different?
10:56People used to think that it's because you eat more than you like.
11:00But it's about how we perceive our immune system.
11:03You don't have to eat a lot of food.
11:06I see.
11:08I want the immune system to do something about it.
11:10Is there a way to prevent the immune system from reacting?
11:14For example,
11:15if you eat a lot of food since you were a child,
11:18your intestinal immune system will be affected,
11:21and you won't get an allergy.
11:23But there's another way to think about it.
11:26Cedar pollen rice has already been developed.
11:29It's rice with cedar allergens.
11:33Cedar pollen rice?
11:34Yes.
11:35If you keep eating it,
11:37you'll get an immune system,
11:39and you'll be able to control cedar pollen.
11:42The Ministry of Agriculture, Forestry, Fisheries, and Fisheries
11:44is also working on it.
11:46It's been developed because there are a lot of people with cedar pollen.
11:50That's right.
11:52The Ministry of Agriculture, Forestry, Fisheries, and Fisheries
11:54is working on cedar pollen.
11:56But rice has a lot of other allergens.
11:58For example, cedar pollen rice,
12:00rice with cedar allergens,
12:02and so on.
12:04Rice with cedar allergens?
12:06Do you eat rice with cedar allergens?
12:08I don't eat rice with cedar allergens.
12:10I'm not good at playing soccer.
12:12Do you have an allergy?
12:13I don't like it.
12:14I don't like it.
12:15I don't have an allergy.
12:18Ito, do you eat anything other than cedar?
12:21Like apples?
12:23I don't eat rice with cedar.
12:25I don't eat rice with cedar.
12:27I've had an allergy once.
12:29I had a fever after taking medicine.
12:33I couldn't breathe.
12:35I was taken to the hospital once.
12:37Even when the doctor examined me,
12:39there was no response.
12:41I thought, is that really it?
12:43But that's all I took.
12:45It was a normal headache medicine.
12:47A suspicious thing is
12:49an adult-causing food allergy.
12:52If you eat the cause of the food,
12:54you won't get an allergy.
12:57That's probably a drug allergy.
12:59Let's do a game to find out what the cause is.
13:02Let's do it twice.
13:06Adult-causing food allergies
13:09are often caused by eating the cause of the food.
13:13If you eat the cause of the food,
13:15you can exercise,
13:17take antipyretics,
13:19drink alcohol,
13:21and get sick.
13:23This combination can cause an allergy.
13:26It's called food-dependent exercise-inducing anaphylaxis.
13:29That's a long name.
13:31If you eat the cause of the food,
13:33you can get an allergy
13:35when you eat it with a fever-inducing drug.
13:38So maybe the cause was food.
13:41Maybe.
13:43I don't remember what I ate that night.
13:45Me neither.
13:47What was it?
13:49Have you ever had an allergy?
13:51Not food.
13:53I had the same thing as Mr. Ito.
13:56Every time I caught a cold,
13:58my face turned red, round, and itchy.
14:00I thought it was a strange cold.
14:02One day, I told the doctor about it.
14:04Then the doctor's face changed.
14:07Maybe it's a drug allergy.
14:10Let's go to the hospital and find out.
14:12So I went to the university hospital.
14:14I talked to the doctor.
14:16Maybe it's a drug allergy.
14:18Let's do a test to find out.
14:20So I was hospitalized twice.
14:22I couldn't drink it
14:24until I found out
14:26the cause of the allergy.
14:28But I knew it would be okay
14:30if it didn't have that ingredient.
14:33So the doctor said,
14:35it was an allergy.
14:37How about you, Hori?
14:39I have skin care and face packs.
14:42If the plant ingredient is strong,
14:44my face turns red,
14:46and I get itchy.
14:48So I wash my face with water
14:50and do my usual skin care.
14:52But my face doesn't get better.
14:54My face turns red all day.
14:56So I can't use face packs
14:58with strong ingredients.
15:00Do you use the same things
15:02all the time?
15:04Basically, I do a patch test.
15:06And I use something gentle
15:08for my skin.
15:10If I use what I was given,
15:12I get itchy.
15:14You can tell when you use it, right?
15:16Yes, I can tell.
15:18You can tell the moment you use it?
15:20Yes, I can tell.
15:22So if you use something gentle,
15:24your face turns red?
15:26Yes.
15:28If the plant ingredient is strong,
15:30you lose.
15:32If you apply honey or yogurt
15:34directly to your skin,
15:36you can get skin care effects.
15:38It's a hot topic on social media.
15:40But it's very dangerous.
15:42It's dangerous.
15:44The ingredients of food
15:46can get into the skin.
15:48It can cause allergic reactions
15:50and cause allergic reactions.
15:52So you need to be careful.
15:54Do you have any tips
15:56for children with allergies?
15:58Well,
16:00children don't know
16:02that they have allergies.
16:04On Halloween,
16:06foreigners live in areas
16:08with a lot of children.
16:10They say,
16:12give me, give me.
16:14But now,
16:16there are fewer children
16:18who don't have nuts.
16:20I think they know,
16:22but they don't say it.
16:24You need to be careful.
16:26I see.
16:28On Halloween,
16:30if something happens to you,
16:32you'll be in trouble.
16:34In Sweden,
16:36there are many people
16:38who have allergies.
16:40When they come to school,
16:42they say,
16:44if you do this,
16:46you'll get allergies.
16:48So they act.
16:50They say,
16:52if you do this,
16:54you'll get more pollen.
16:56So if you have allergies,
16:58you'll be in trouble.
17:00They teach you
17:02in a fun way.
17:04Inukai,
17:06there are shops
17:08that say,
17:10give me, give me.
17:12Do you pay attention to that?
17:14No,
17:16don't say things like that.
17:18But if you eat that,
17:20you'll get allergies.
17:22I understand that.
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17:38Inukai, do you pay attention?
17:40I have a friend
17:42who has a soba allergy.
17:44When I go to eat,
17:46I don't choose a soba shop,
17:48but there are soba and udon shops.
17:50I've heard that
17:52they're actually
17:54boiled in the same water.
17:56I try to avoid that.
17:58I pay attention to that.
18:00I see.
18:02Do you think that
18:04people in Sweden
18:06don't understand
18:08allergies?
18:10Yes,
18:12I'm allergic to peppers and carrots.
18:14I don't like kids.
18:16I'm sorry,
18:18but I can't eat peppers and carrots.
18:20Don't say things like that.
18:22But if you eat that,
18:24you'll get allergies.
18:26I don't understand that.
18:28People think you don't like it.
18:30In Sweden,
18:32people call allergies
18:34an invisible handicap.
18:36If you have a physical disability,
18:38it's easy to understand.
18:40For example, a wheelchair.
18:42But it's even more scary
18:44because it's invisible.
18:46I don't say you have to understand everything,
18:48but I want you to know
18:50that you can't say you don't like it.
18:52In Japan,
18:54people are studying
18:56allergies and asthma
18:58so I think
19:00they're getting more and more understanding.
19:02I see.
19:04So,
19:06how was it, Inukai?
19:08I think it's important
19:10to know yourself.
19:12By knowing yourself,
19:14you can be considerate
19:16to others.
19:18Plus,
19:20I have to eat
19:22raw fish
19:24that I don't like.
19:26Why are you talking to me like that?
19:30Next time, learn feminism.
19:32When I was raising a child,
19:34I wasn't told what to do,
19:36but I had to stop working,
19:38go shopping,
19:40breastfeed,
19:42and wash my fingers.
19:44I'm not angry,
19:46but I feel guilty for not doing it.
19:48Look forward to it.