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00:00Man, that is a big crowd.
00:05And they are not here for me.
00:07How you guys doing?
00:14Nice vibe this year, right?
00:15After the best month we've ever had.
00:18Nice to see you all.
00:19Thanks for coming out.
00:20Good to see you.
00:21I'm not going to kill any more time.
00:23Let's bring out Elon Musk.
00:30We've got, we've got one more.
00:59We've got one more surprise, in case this wasn't enough.
01:02I'm going to let Elon do it.
01:04Who else is here?
01:06Well, President, President Malay has a gift for me.
01:10Javier Malay from Argentina.
01:12You guys know who that is, right?
01:15Why don't we bring him out?
01:27This is the chainsaw for bureaucracy.
01:46Chainsaw!
01:49That's perfect.
01:58All right.
01:59I love it.
02:00Mr. President, thank you so much.
02:02All right.
02:05Thank you, sir.
02:06Nice to meet you.
02:07I love it.
02:08We love it.
02:09We love it.
02:10All right.
02:16They told me to put this right here.
02:18Where should we put it?
02:19They want it right here.
02:20All right.
02:21Great.
02:22A little stage prop.
02:28I love you guys, too.
02:33Thanks, guys.
02:34Have a seat.
02:40That was something.
02:46I am become meme.
02:49Yeah, pretty much.
02:51I'm living the meme.
02:53There's living the dream and there's living the meme.
02:55That's pretty much what's happening.
02:59Doge started out as a meme.
03:01Think about it.
03:04Now it's real.
03:05Isn't that crazy?
03:07It is crazy.
03:08But it's cool.
03:09Let me ask you this.
03:10A year ago, if someone had told you you'd be at CPAC and working with the president to
03:16absolutely shred the government, the swamp, whatever you want to call it, would you have
03:21ever believed that?
03:22No.
03:23No?
03:24Me neither.
03:26But it's cool.
03:28This is awesome.
03:30And I just want to say thanks for your support.
03:34I mean, we're trying to get good things done, but also have a good time doing it and have
03:50a sense of humor.
03:55The left wanted to make comedy illegal.
03:59You can't make fun of anything.
04:01Comedy sucks.
04:02It's like nothing's funny.
04:03You can't make fun of anything.
04:05It's like legalized comedy.
04:07Yeah.
04:08Legalized comedy.
04:10And we've shifted the entire culture in just the last few months.
04:13The whole culture of this country has shifted dramatically just because of that election.
04:17Yeah, exactly.
04:20Freedom of speech.
04:22Having fun again.
04:24It seems like we should have a good time.
04:27I mean, it's a great time.
04:29Everybody in this place is so excited.
04:31I mean, when you talk to conservatives, everybody's happy.
04:34And everybody feels this great sense of relief because we were going to hell for about four
04:38years.
04:39It really felt bad.
04:40Especially toward the end.
04:41It felt really bad.
04:42Yeah.
04:43I mean, I thought we were sort of heading for a point of no return, really.
04:48That's why it was so essential that President Trump win the election and that there be a
04:56Republican majority in the House and Senate.
04:59Which, thanks to you, that has been accomplished.
05:02Yeah.
05:03I want to ask you, one of the biggest questions I have for you is, you've been, politically,
05:08you weren't really on one side or the other for a long time.
05:10You're a businessman.
05:11A lot of people, they stay away from it.
05:12Now you're on a side.
05:13Yeah.
05:14And you've chosen a side.
05:15You're sitting here in a MAGA hat.
05:16How did that happen?
05:18It's like dark, gothic MAGAs.
05:21That's a good one.
05:22Was there a specific moment?
05:27Was there a moment that it all changed?
05:30Yeah.
05:31When I realized I was a fool.
05:34But, no, I guess, yeah, I'd say I was politically neutral for quite a while.
05:45You know, leaning a little Democrat.
05:49How do you go from that to this?
05:51How does that happen?
05:54Did they go crazy?
05:55Yeah, they did go crazy.
05:56Yeah, they went crazy.
05:57No, I mean, the whole cancel culture and, you know, it's trying to stop freedom of speech
06:05and infringe upon, just in general, infringe upon people's personal freedoms.
06:11You know, they just want state control, state control of what you say.
06:16They want to, you know, take away your guns.
06:20And the reason they want to take away your guns is because there's nothing you can do
06:24to oppose them.
06:25So, it's sort of like, you know, I just like, we just need to restore the fundamental elements
06:33of what made America great, which is freedom and opportunity.
06:37Yeah.
06:38We're seeing a lot of these freedoms disappearing in the West.
06:41It's not just about America.
06:42We're watching, we're all watching Europe and knowing that they're about 50, 100 years
06:45ahead of us, right, because they got an early start.
06:47And we're watching how they're devolving.
06:49And you're trying to save it from happening here.
06:52No, I mean, in Europe, they put people in prison for memes.
06:55Yeah.
06:56You know, I'm like, that's insane.
06:58And they're collapsing.
06:59I mean, the society is, it's a collapsing society.
07:01It feels that way.
07:02It feels like...
07:03France was nicer 50 years ago than it is today.
07:06Yeah.
07:07I don't think you can question that.
07:09Yeah.
07:10So, but, yeah, I mean, really...
07:17We love you!
07:18Thanks.
07:19Love you too.
07:21They do love you.
07:22Yeah.
07:23I mean, I really just wanted to do useful things, like, you know, basically build products,
07:30you know, provide products and services that are good.
07:34And that wasn't really, like, that interested in being political.
07:40It just, like, there was, at a certain point, no choice.
07:42Yeah.
07:43So, yeah.
07:44Well, can I ask you what, on the same side of that coin, what's it like from going neutral
07:50to being vilified, largely vilified by the media?
07:54Like, you're...
07:55What?
07:56No.
07:57Really?
07:58I mean, you turn on some of these channels, brother, I mean, they're angry at you.
08:03Does it bother you at all?
08:04A little bit.
08:05Does it get to you?
08:06Yeah.
08:07I mean, when they're chanting for my death, I suppose that's a little...
08:11Yeah.
08:12It's not good.
08:13And then, like, the song's not even that good.
08:15And it's like, you call that a death chant?
08:18That's nothing.
08:19Please.
08:20They've been singing a lot lately.
08:21It's not even good music.
08:22There's a lot of music lately.
08:23It's not good music either, yeah.
08:24Yes.
08:25I would say that they're, you know, watching what you're doing with Doge is just, people
08:29love it.
08:30I mean, I've always looked at the government and...
08:32Yeah.
08:33I've always looked at the government and I've seen this big machine that, and you just know
08:40that they waste, because they don't care.
08:41Nobody cares.
08:42There's more money coming, they don't care.
08:43Yeah.
08:44You're cutting all this out.
08:46Everybody in this country knows that the government is full of waste, fraud, and abuse.
08:49And you're doing the work and the Americans love it.
08:52Watching their reaction politically to this, I can't believe how bad they are at responding
08:57to this.
08:58I don't know how you're going to sit there and scream and complain because they're cutting
09:02waste out of the government and try to win another election.
09:05How do you try to win on that?
09:07Well, at this point, I'm like, I'm not sure how much of the left is even real.
09:11Yeah.
09:12You know?
09:14How much was propped up by our money, you know?
09:16Yeah.
09:17Yeah.
09:18Literally, you see these sort of fake rallies where there's hardly any people.
09:22And the media will frame it and get all six people in the frame.
09:27But it's like nobody else is there.
09:29It doesn't have popular support.
09:32But then you learn that there's hundreds of billions of dollars going to these so-called
09:39NGOs.
09:40Yeah.
09:42And it's your tax dollars that are funding things that are fundamentally anti-American.
09:47And they're propping up their narrative.
09:48Yes.
09:49A lot of that government money has been propping up a left that I don't think is as strong
09:52as they made it seem.
09:54In fact, a massive amount of your tax dollars is going to legacy media companies.
09:59Yes.
10:00Directly from the government.
10:02The government wants to take over media.
10:03Yeah.
10:04It's terrible.
10:05Yeah.
10:06That's why we have X.
10:07Yeah.
10:08That's why you spent $44 billion.
10:09I mean, that's a lot of money.
10:11More than it was probably worth.
10:12But there was a message.
10:13Freedom is priceless.
10:14Priceless.
10:15Yeah.
10:20It's probably one of the most important investments this country has ever seen.
10:23If you've got to protect the First Amendment, it's not much more important than that.
10:28Yeah.
10:29I got a lot of criticism.
10:30And people said, well, that proves he's a huge idiot.
10:35You bought it for whatever, $44 billion, and now it's worth like $0.08.
10:41It's not worth $0.08.
10:47It was essentially to buy freedom of expression.
10:57Once that's gone, it's all over.
10:59It's all over.
11:00Sent into tyranny really quick after that.
11:02Yeah.
11:03I mean, all this sort of federal money going to media companies is what helps explain why
11:13the legacy media all says the same thing at the same time.
11:18Yeah.
11:19It's weird.
11:20You can put them up where it's like, you know.
11:23They're mouthpieces for the state.
11:26For the state.
11:27Yes.
11:28And that's what we've come to know.
11:29Yeah.
11:30It's scary.
11:31I like that meme, because they're always saying, like, threat to our democracy.
11:36But if you just replaced democracy with bureaucracy, it makes a lot of sense.
11:42It makes perfect sense.
11:43Yeah.
11:44Big threat to the bureaucracy.
11:46That's exactly right.
11:47Let's talk about these Doge dividend checks that everybody's talking about this week.
11:51And I know you tweeted out that you were going to.
11:53Has everybody won like a $5,000 check in the mail?
11:55It sounds kind of good, right?
11:57And the best part about it would be knowing where it came from.
12:00$5,000 that you sent them last year.
12:01Totally.
12:02It's money that's taken away from things that are destructive to the country and from
12:07organizations that hate you to you.
12:09That's awesome.
12:10Does it seem like?
12:11I mean, have you talked to the president?
12:12I mean, that's like glorious.
12:14That's like the spoils of battle, you know?
12:17I like that.
12:19Is there traction on that?
12:20Yeah, yeah.
12:21Yeah?
12:22Yeah.
12:23I talked to the president.
12:25He's supportive of that.
12:27And so it sounds like, you know, that's something we're going to do.
12:30Yep.
12:31So as we're finding savings, that's going to translate directly to reductions in tax.
12:36Yeah.
12:37I mean, I think they fired 6,000 people at the IRS today.
12:40Yeah.
12:41And I think Lutnick said last night that they're talking about shutting down the IRS.
12:45And I think it's fair.
12:54I think people should realize this is, I mean, the amount of money that we send.
12:57We send Washington like five or six trillion a year.
12:59That is such an ungodly amount of money.
13:01I mean, what are they?
13:02It is crazy.
13:03They say like a trillion seconds is like 30 years or something like that.
13:06I mean, that's how much we send them, and they seem to never have enough.
13:09There must be a lot you can cut.
13:11No, absolutely.
13:12People ask me, what's the most surprising thing that you've encountered when you go to D.C.?
13:17You know, when you're in D.C.
13:18And I said, well, the most surprising thing is the scale of the expenditures
13:22and actually how easy it is to, just when you add caring and competence where it was absent before,
13:33you can actually save billions of dollars, sometimes in an hour.
13:38Yeah.
13:39It's wild.
13:41And then they scoff at it and say, oh, a few billion here.
13:43I mean, the way they're talking about it, you can see they don't care.
13:47It's such little money compared to how much they're used to wasting.
13:50That's what's really scary.
13:52Yeah.
13:53No, I mean, exactly.
13:54But obviously, it just shows that they really lack empathy for the average taxpayer
13:59who's working hard paying taxes, and then they say, oh, a million dollars doesn't matter.
14:04I'm like, I think it matters a lot to people, you know?
14:07So what are you talking about?
14:09I'd like to have it.
14:12Let me ask you a question.
14:13You know, I know the president fairly well, watched him survive two assassination attempts.
14:19Had the first one not happened, the second one would have gotten him.
14:22You know, because without those extra guys,
14:24they would have never seen that gun poking through the fence at the golf course.
14:28I saw the crew that you had.
14:30Isn't it mind-blowing that this has happened?
14:32And by the way, why do we still know nothing about that guy in Butler?
14:35What's going on?
14:39Cash is going to get to the bottom of it.
14:41Yeah.
14:42There you go.
14:43By the way, yeah.
14:48Confirmed just a couple hours ago, but I saw that the security detail that you had come in is enormous.
14:54Well, it's not that enormous.
14:55Maybe it should be bigger.
14:56I don't know.
14:57I think you could probably afford it.
14:59But, I mean, how concerned are you about your safety dealing?
15:01I mean, you are a wanted man.
15:05Are you nervous?
15:08Look, I'm open to ideas for improving security, I have to tell you.
15:12Like, I don't actually have a death wish, I think.
15:16But, you know, it's not that easy.
15:20So, yeah.
15:22I mean, but I have, like, I've had even, like, people like President Bukele from El Salvador
15:27who managed to put in prison, like, I don't know, 100,000, like, murderous thugs.
15:32And he was like, he called me, he was like, I'm worried about your security.
15:35I'm like, you're worried about my security?
15:37I'm like, what?
15:39Okay.
15:40You know.
15:41I mean, yeah, talk about guts to do that down there.
15:43I mean.
15:44Yeah, totally.
15:45And survive.
15:46Like, I'm like, I was like, how did you put all those thugs in prison without dying?
15:50Because it seems like that would have been not easy, you know.
15:52Well, there's a, the president has, one of his top attorneys is now investigating, I guess, Chuck Schumer for threats against SCOTUS.
15:59A congressman on the Democrat side.
16:02Who's saying, you know, basically saying he's going to bring a war to you, like a fight to you.
16:05I mean, the rhetoric, you guys are screwing with things that are not supposed to be messed with.
16:11And there's a lot of people that really don't want that to happen.
16:15Yeah, we're fighting the Matrix big time here.
16:17Yeah.
16:18But it's got to be done.
16:19Yeah.
16:20And, you know.
16:21Are you wrong?
16:22It certainly does.
16:23What's going on with, tell us about Fort Knox.
16:26Yeah.
16:28It's Kentucky.
16:29It's a military base.
16:30It's a ton of gold.
16:31Tons and tons and tons of gold.
16:33Like 5,000 tons of gold or something.
16:345,000 tons of gold.
16:35Give or take, you know.
16:36Are there in the ground in like this, I mean, it's a very secure.
16:39I think we all want to see it.
16:40I'd love to see it.
16:41Like, this is your gold, by the way.
16:43It's the public's gold.
16:45Do you think it's not there?
16:46I don't know.
16:48You just want to see it.
16:50Yeah, we want to go see it and just make sure like somebody didn't spray paint some lead or something, you know.
16:54Yeah.
16:56Like, is this real gold?
16:57Bite the bar, you know.
16:59Didn't dent.
17:00But I think, honestly, you know, part of this also is just like let's, you know, let's have some fun.
17:06And, you know, like I said, all this gold at Fort Knox, it's the public's gold.
17:13It's your gold.
17:14So, like, I think you have like a right to see it.
17:17You want to take a tour?
17:18You know.
17:19Yeah.
17:20I think we should have a tour.
17:21And the president last night was like, I think he's in favor of it.
17:24That would be cool.
17:25And then it should be like a live tour.
17:27Like, you can see what's going on, open the door, like what's behind it.
17:31You know, I think I'd watch that.
17:34Oh, are you kidding?
17:35Yeah.
17:36I mean, what does 5,000 tons of gold look like?
17:39Yeah, totally.
17:40What does it look like?
17:41How big is that?
17:42Is it the size of this?
17:43It's got to be pretty big, you know.
17:44It's got to be a lot of gold.
17:45Maybe there's some other stuff in there.
17:46Like, just walk around and like, I don't know, maybe there's some other stuff in there.
17:48Are you thinking about auditing the Federal Reserve as well, which is obviously coming up?
17:52Yeah, sure.
17:54Regulatory economy.
17:57I imagine you think the waste has got to be everywhere.
18:00Yeah, no, waste is pretty much everywhere.
18:02People ask, like, how can you find waste in, like, in D.C.?
18:05I'm like, look, it's like being in a room and there's targets.
18:09The wall, the roofs, and the floor are all targets.
18:12So it's like, you're going to close your eyes and go shoot in any direction.
18:16Because you can't miss, you know.
18:19So it's pretty wild.
18:21Like, you just push on things a little bit and you save billions of dollars.
18:24Like, just a little bit, you know.
18:26It's wild.
18:27It's scary, isn't it?
18:28That's why I say, like, it really is underrated.
18:31If you add caring and competence, how much things improve.
18:35Yeah.
18:37And, you know, we just find so many totally crazy things, which, you know, obviously we're sharing with the public.
18:43We post everything we learn.
18:45You know, just, you know.
18:48So you can see it, you know.
18:50And it's like, isn't it, like, it's totally wild.
18:53Like, we just did, like, a check the database on Social Security.
18:58Like, it says, how many Americans, alive Americans, eligible for Social Security are there?
19:04And according to the database, it's over 400 million.
19:06And we're like, wait a second.
19:10And how old are they again?
19:12Yeah.
19:13And then, like, we found, like, one person in there is, like, 360 years old.
19:17I'm like, what do they know?
19:18Ben Carter or something?
19:19We're 100 years before the revolution.
19:20I mean, you know, America didn't exist before that time.
19:23Like, so.
19:24Yeah, we were colonies.
19:25You know, maybe it's just me, but I think it's a red flag.
19:28I don't know.
19:31But are there indications that there were checks going to those people or any of those people?
19:36Well, yeah.
19:37That's, I guess, the question, right?
19:39I mean, I get the Social Security Administration is dumb, but are they paying these people?
19:43Are they that dumb?
19:44I don't know.
19:45A bunch of money is going out from the Social Security Administration.
19:48And, in fact, from all entitlements programs.
19:50$72 billion in waste in, like, seven years.
19:53That's $10 billion a year.
19:54Well, I think the—
19:56Fraudulent payments.
19:57The rough estimate from government accountability offices is over $500 billion of fraud a year.
20:06$500 billion.
20:08And how long at a time?
20:10Per year.
20:11Per year?
20:12On Social Security?
20:13No, no.
20:14On all entitlements?
20:15On all government.
20:16On all entitlements?
20:17All entitlements.
20:18All entitlements, yeah.
20:20It sort of actually makes sense when you look at the thing from a top level and say, like,
20:23okay, the $7 trillion was spending by the government.
20:27What percentage do you think is fraudulent?
20:31Okay, exactly.
20:32Like, a conservative estimate of the $7 trillion would be 10%.
20:38Conservative.
20:39Probably a little higher than that, yeah.
20:40Exactly.
20:41Feels like a quarter out of every dollar, right?
20:42But if the fraud's only 10% of $7 trillion, you've got $700 billion of fraud.
20:48Yeah.
20:49And by the way, it's, like, really easy to take advantage of the federal government.
20:52Very easy.
20:53Very easy.
20:54Look at COVID.
20:55Yes.
20:56Everybody got rich during COVID.
20:57I mean, look at all these scammers.
20:58I mean, it's unbelievable.
21:02It looks like, in terms of the COVID payments, there was something like $200 billion of COVID payment fraud
21:10taken by fraudsters out of the country.
21:12Out of the country, yeah.
21:14That's like, I think, listen, if there's going to be fraud, it should at least be domestic.
21:18So, you know.
21:22But they managed to get $200 billion out of the country.
21:25I'm like, what?
21:26Didn't we notice that?
21:29Let me ask you, let's do immigration here for a second.
21:32You know, there's this move now that Trump's latest thing is that he cut,
21:36he's going to cut funding, any kind of money that ends up in the hands of illegal immigrants.
21:41So, if you're funding these sanctuary cities and states, that's how they thrive, right?
21:44They're paying for these hotels.
21:46That's all federal money.
21:47If you've got a hotel in your city, in New York, you've got all these hotels full of migrants.
21:50That's not state money.
21:51That's, the feds are covering that.
21:52He's going to cut all that.
21:53It's really hard to deport 15 million people.
21:56And it seems like the move now is, let's see if we, especially at the rate that we're going,
22:00it seems like the move now is, let's make it so that they leave on their own.
22:03If there's no longer a dole system for them, if they can't get their hands on hotel rooms and money,
22:08they're going to go back, especially if there's no work.
22:11Well, I think it's really important for people to understand that the Biden administration
22:17sent any possible money that they could, if there was money they could send to facilitate
22:24and amplify illegal immigration, they sent it.
22:28They took money from FEMA, meant for helping Americans in distress,
22:34and sent that money to luxury hotels for illegal immigrants in New York.
22:39That is an outrage.
22:44They actually did that.
22:46And not only that, even after the president signed an executive order saying it has to stop,
22:51the sort of, whatever, deep state bureaucrats still pressed send on $80 million last week
23:00to go to the Roosevelt Hotel in New York and other places, last week.
23:05And now they're mad that it got stopped.
23:08And they're like trying to sue to have it be restored.
23:11It's like, the gumption is unreal.
23:14You think they're creating a new voter class?
23:16Do you think that was the goal when they opened up the borders for four years?
23:17Create a new voter class, get them citizenship, get them in, green cards, vote.
23:22A lot of these things, like you don't actually have to assume some grand conspiracy.
23:26You just need to look at basic incentives.
23:30So if the incentives, fundamentally, if the probability that an illegal is going to vote Democrat at some point,
23:38whether it's cheating, but eventually they can become citizens.
23:42But if the probability is like 80-90%, just look at California,
23:45which is super majority Dem.
23:48And then the incentive is to maximize the number of illegals in the country.
23:54That is why the Biden administration was pushing to get in as many illegals as possible
24:01and spend every dollar possible to get as many, because every one of them is a customer.
24:05Every one is a voter.
24:07So the whole thing was a giant voter importation scam.
24:12Pretty obvious.
24:13Very obvious.
24:15And moreover, they actually created the CVP1 voter app thing,
24:20where they would literally fly people in.
24:24At the point at which people are being flown in at your expense,
24:30building a wall, it doesn't matter.
24:33They're literally flying them in.
24:35No other country in the world would do something like this.
24:37Nobody is as stupid.
24:38Yeah, and then we found that it was like a $100 million contract
24:43given to some guy in London, actually, oddly enough, for the CVP1 app.
24:50So they're flying illegals into the swing states.
24:56And if you've got a margin of victory of maybe 20,000 people
25:02and you fly 200,000 illegals into that state,
25:06it's not going to be a swing state for long.
25:08Change the numbers, eventually.
25:10Maybe in four or eight years, you're going to have a perpetual power.
25:13It's a long game.
25:15It's just a matter of time.
25:17So it might take like a year for an asylum seeker or something
25:20to get a green card and then five years for the citizenship.
25:23It's an investment that is guaranteed to pay off.
25:26It's just a question of when.
25:28They all remember who brought them in and who left them here.
25:30Exactly.
25:32This is a big deal.
25:34I think a lot of people don't quite appreciate
25:35that this is a full, real scam at scale
25:38to tilt the scales of democracy in America.
25:41Treasons.
25:43Treason.
25:45One more Biden question.
25:47I remember when they would do the electric car stuff,
25:49they would always try to box you out,
25:51even though you have the only electric car anybody wants.
25:53Yeah.
25:55You said, I think this week,
25:57that you think that Biden left these astronauts up in space
26:00because he didn't want to give you an opportunity to save them,
26:02make NASA look bad, make the private sector look better,
26:05and you believe that?
26:07Yeah, absolutely.
26:09Of course.
26:11I kind of agree.
26:13Why would he want to let you help them come down
26:16when you're supporting the president?
26:18The Biden administration was attacking the next level.
26:21The Department of Justice, or Injustice,
26:24under the Biden administration,
26:26they were suing SpaceX.
26:29They were suing SpaceX for not hiring asylum seekers.
26:32And we're like,
26:34but it's actually illegal for us to hire asylum seekers
26:37because rocket technology is covered under ITAR rules,
26:42which means it's an advanced weapons technology.
26:45Yeah.
26:47And so we can only hire permanent residents or citizens.
26:50Right.
26:52So we're damned if we do, damned if we don't.
26:54So how can they sue us for not hiring asylum seekers
26:58when it's actually illegal for us to do so?
27:00But nonetheless, there was a big Department of Justice
27:03or Injustice case about this, against SpaceX.
27:06So obviously it was an antagonistic situation.
27:09And those astronauts were supposed to be up there for eight days,
27:13and now they're up there for eight months.
27:15Does that make any sense?
27:17And we obviously could have brought them back sooner,
27:21but they didn't want anyone who supported President Trump
27:24to look good, basically.
27:26Yeah.
27:28That's the issue.
27:30A lot of them are saying right now
27:33that the reason that you want to get into Social Security,
27:36that you want to get into all of these different,
27:38into Treasury and things like that,
27:40is that you're looking for personal information
27:42and you're trying to make more money.
27:44Yeah.
27:46I've never met anybody as rich as you
27:48that cared less about money in my life.
27:50Every time I hear a story about you,
27:52you're sleeping on a couch of some other guy
27:54in a city that you could buy the entire thing.
27:56Yeah, I'm not...
27:58I don't think you care about money, do you?
28:00No.
28:02Listen, if I steal some Social Security,
28:04I can finally buy nice things.
28:06Yeah.
28:08And on that same question,
28:11they're also talking about
28:13you guys are going to end Social Security,
28:15you're going to end Medicare,
28:17you're going to end these things.
28:19I don't imagine that conversation has been had
28:21with the President, and that's the plan.
28:23No.
28:25In fact, the actions that we're taking
28:27with the support of the President
28:28will save Medicare, will save Social Security.
28:30Yeah.
28:37And it's...
28:39Because if the country goes insolvent,
28:41if all the money is just spent
28:44on paying interest on debt,
28:46there's no money left for anything.
28:48Yeah.
28:50So that's the reason I'm doing this,
28:52is because I was looking at the big picture here
28:54and it's like, man, our debt's getting out of control.
28:56The interest payments...
28:58Our debt now exceeds
29:00the entire Defense Department budget.
29:02It's a trillion a year in interest.
29:04Just to carry the money that we owe
29:06is a trillion a year.
29:08Yes.
29:09That is unbelievable.
29:11And rising rapidly.
29:13A country is no different from a person.
29:15A country overspends, a country goes bankrupt.
29:17The same as a person who overspends goes bankrupt.
29:19So it's not optional to solve these things.
29:21It's essential.
29:23We're going to go bankrupt.
29:25Yes, we are.
29:27A couple minutes left here.
29:29Russia.
29:31There's a huge push from this administration.
29:33Oh, yeah, yeah.
29:35People like to say,
29:37I'm a bought asset of Putin.
29:40I'm like, he can't afford me.
29:42Yeah.
29:44I think you're worth more than Russia.
29:46Think about it.
29:48I like that.
29:50So you're trying to end a war.
29:54Ending a war always means you have to compromise,
29:56you have to negotiate with an enemy or an adversary.
29:58That's just what it is.
30:00And right now,
30:02they are lambasting the president
30:04for trying a different method to a war
30:06that they haven't been able to end
30:08for three and a half years or three years.
30:10Yeah.
30:12They're saying Trump's blaming Zelensky for the invasion.
30:14How do you process all of the negativity toward him
30:18for trying to end this war?
30:20Well, first of all,
30:22I think we should have empathy
30:24for the people dying at the front lines.
30:26That's the most important thing.
30:28And people have been dying.
30:30It's like,
30:32how many more years is this supposed to go on?
30:34Yeah.
30:36And imagine if that was your son,
30:38your father.
30:40What are they dying for?
30:42What exactly are they dying for?
30:44The line of engagement has barely moved
30:46for two years.
30:48There's a whole bunch of people dead in trenches.
30:50For what?
30:52And I'll tell you what for what.
30:54It's like for the biggest graft machine
30:56that I've ever seen in my life.
30:58That's for what?
31:00It's unreal.
31:02The amount of money that is being taken
31:04in graft and bribery is disgusting.
31:07And so what's actually happening
31:09is that those
31:12poor guys are getting sent
31:15into a meat grinder for money.
31:17That's what's actually going on.
31:19And it needs to stop.
31:20And that's I mean that's
31:22it seems I mean Trump is so
31:24pragmatic on this.
31:26He's just looking at it and he's saying
31:28it's Ukraine. It's not our country.
31:30It's not a NATO ally.
31:32I just want to see people not dying.
31:34I want to see on both sides.
31:36I mean think about how many young
31:38so many young men have died in Ukraine
31:40that the army is starting to age out.
31:42The military is aging out.
31:44You got 40 and 50 year old guys
31:46fighting in a war because there's nobody left
31:48that's not killed or maimed in their 20s.
31:50They're not dying at all.
31:52You just got to end the war.
31:54Like no matter what.
31:56Just get it over with.
31:58Yes. People they need to stop dying.
32:00And the grift machine has got to stop.
32:02You know so.
32:04And I think people
32:06don't a lot of people out there don't realize
32:08like the president has a lot of empathy.
32:10He really cares.
32:12You know he's a good he's a good man.
32:14So I got one more for you.
32:16I've been fascinated by you for a very long time.
32:19Thanks.
32:21I've just I just I've never seen anybody
32:23that can do so many things at the same time.
32:26I mean you've got the rockets you got the cars.
32:28I've always wanted to ask you
32:30what is it like inside your mind.
32:32Like is it just a thousand miles an hour.
32:34I mean are you.
32:35Yeah.
32:36Is it just not.
32:37I mean does does it ever stop.
32:39Do you sleep.
32:40How much do you sleep.
32:42Let's paint us a picture
32:43of inside of the mind of a genius.
32:45Like how do you.
32:47Can you answer that question.
32:49It's not an easy question.
32:51Yeah.
32:52I mean my mind is a storm.
32:54Yeah.
32:55So it's a storm.
32:57But.
32:59But I mean let me maybe tell you
33:01something like you didn't ask the question
33:03but but I think it's worth.
33:05None unless maybe just just
33:07elaborating on something which is
33:10you know I grew up in South Africa.
33:11And.
33:13But my morality was informed
33:15by America.
33:17I read comic books.
33:19You know play Dungeons and Dragons.
33:21And.
33:23And.
33:25I watched American TV shows
33:27and.
33:30Like.
33:31It seemed like.
33:33America cared about being the good
33:35guys you know but doing the right
33:37thing.
33:38And.
33:39And.
33:41And.
33:42That's actually pretty unusual
33:44by the way.
33:46It's like it's like in the world
33:47it's very unusual.
33:48Yeah.
33:49It's not like actually those
33:50countries don't do that.
33:51No they don't.
33:52No.
33:53And so I was like yeah.
33:54You know you want to be this good.
33:56You want to be on the side of good.
33:57You want to care about what's right.
33:59And.
34:00And.
34:02Yeah.
34:03So that's that's.
34:05Yeah.
34:06What I believe in.
34:08I gave you I gave you a tough one
34:09at the end.
34:12Yeah.
34:14So yeah.
34:16That's great.
34:17That's great.
34:18Elon Musk.
34:19All right.
34:21Thank you so much.