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Latest updates on Delta 4819 that crash landed and ended up inverted in Toronto on February 17, 2025, specifically background ont he Captain and First Officer of the CRJ in which all 80 people thankfully survived.

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00:00Who are the pilots of the Endeavour regional jet that crashed on landing in Toronto?
00:05Let's find out on Taking Off.
00:13Hi, I'm Dan Milliken.
00:14On February 17, Delta Flight 4819, operated by their regional carrier Endeavour,
00:20a CRJ-900 carrying 76 passengers and 4 crew, broke apart on landing.
00:27Miraculously, no one was killed.
00:30You know, it's a pilot saying any landing you can walk away from is a good landing,
00:35but that might not be the case here.
00:37Before we get to the pilots and an update on the passengers that were hospitalized,
00:43here's what we know about the crash.
00:46First, the weather.
00:47The airport was reporting winds from 270, that's due west, at 23 knots gusting 33.
00:54The runway was runway 23.
00:57In this case, it lines up at a heading of 237, and that's a 33-degree crosswind.
01:03The temperature was minus 8 degrees Celsius.
01:06Visibility was good, and runway was listed in good condition with light covering of snow.
01:12Everything looked normal on the approach to landing.
01:16The descent rate was within normal parameters.
01:18The approach was stable.
01:20Here's the ATC audio moments before.
01:24Tower, Endeavour 4819, on target.
01:26Endeavour 4819, Tower, Tower, wind 270 at 23, gust 33, clear to land on runway 23,
01:31you might get a slight bump in the glide path, there'll be an aircraft in front of it.
01:35Clear to land 23, Endeavour 4819.
01:38The bump the controller is talking about is the possible interference in the glide slope
01:43because they had a plane, reportedly a Learjet, holding short of runway 23
01:48inside of an area in which the ILS signal can be interrupted.
01:53On a day where visibility is fine, this is standard practice.
01:57If the weather had caused visibility issues, the controller would have held the plane
02:02outside the interference area, the plane on the ground.
02:05As it was, that small private jet had a front row seat.
02:09And like most aviators, we love watching planes.
02:13So whoever was sitting right seat in the private jet saw the plane on final,
02:17pulled out the phone, and videoed the landing.
02:20And what incredible footage it was.
02:23In the comments on our previous reports, people have wondered what a car was doing there
02:27or if the pilot would get in trouble for using his or her phone.
02:31Well, it's not a car, it was a private jet.
02:33And as far as phone usage, the private jet operates under different rules than the airlines.
02:39And I'm not sure about Canada, but generally this would not be against the rules
02:44for a private jet for the FAA.
02:46Grab any pilot's phone and I bet you'll see some great shots.
02:49It's the best office view out there in a workplace.
02:54Okay, as the CRJ comes in to land, usually around 50 feet above the runway,
02:59you'll see an airliner slowly pitch up a few degrees.
03:02This is called a flare or flaring.
03:05And that flare does two things.
03:07One, it slows you down a little.
03:09And secondly, it slows the descent so you don't hit the runway so hard.
03:13Now, when you're in a windy or gusty condition, it's a little more challenging.
03:18Let's say you've got a 30 knot headwind gust and you're coming in to land
03:22and suddenly the gust completely goes away.
03:25When you're 30 feet above the surface, the plane will drop.
03:28Pilots train for this.
03:30Usually in gusty conditions, you keep a little more speed.
03:33In a small airplane like my Cessna 210, you simply add more throttle.
03:38In an airliner, there's no time.
03:40It takes, you know, five, eight seconds from throttling up before you actually get power.
03:45Also, the CRJ with the engines mounted higher on the tail,
03:50this means that the gear can be shorter,
03:53which means less weight than airplanes with wing-mounted engines.
03:58But this means the CRJ sits a lot lower, which brings us back to this crash.
04:04The CRJ is fighting that strong quartering headwind,
04:0833 degrees off to the right, 23 knots, gusting 33.
04:13And as you come into land, you dip the wing into the crosswind,
04:17in this case, the right wing, and add a little bit of left rudder to stay straight.
04:22All that's still normal.
04:24But as the CRJ comes down in the last bit, there's no leveling out, no flare.
04:29And the plane hits the right main landing gear first
04:32and the right wing snaps off and catches fire.
04:35The fuel for the airplane is kept in the wings.
04:38And even though this is at the end of the flight,
04:40there's still plenty of jet fuel in reserve.
04:43And since the plane is still going fairly fast,
04:46the left wing is still generating lift, which causes the airplane to rotate,
04:51snapping the tail off at the 90-degree point,
04:53continuing the roll until it's inverted 180 degrees.
04:57The fuselage and the left wing slide down the runway,
05:01out of the fire caused by the right wing, and comes to rest.
05:05And while many thought the left wing came off as well, it didn't.
05:08It stayed attached.
05:09Flight attendants performed heroically,
05:12getting everyone off the plane while it's in an upside down configuration.
05:17Here is what the Transportation Board of Canada had to say.
05:21As you can see here, the fuselage came to rest slightly off the right side of the runway,
05:26upside down, facing the other direction.
05:30Other duties we'll be conducting here on site are examining the wreckage,
05:34examining the runway.
05:37We've already removed the cockpit voice recorder, the flight data recorder,
05:41and we've sent them to our lab for further analysis.
05:45At this point, it's far too early to say what the cause of this accident might be.
05:50However, we will share more information once we're able to.
05:53Delta has announced they're going to pay all 80 people,
05:57that's the 76 passengers, the two pilots, and the two flight attendants,
06:02$30,000 each, totaling $2.3 million.
06:07And that's regardless of anyone filing a suit,
06:09which first suits are expected to be filed on February 20th.
06:14Also, all passengers that were injured have now been released from the hospital,
06:19and that's great news.
06:21We have discovered who was piloting the aircraft now.
06:24According to several news agencies,
06:26the two pilots were Captain Jim Henneman and First Officer Kendall Swanson.
06:32Henneman earned his airline transport pilot certificate January 2013.
06:37He was type rated in the CRJs.
06:39Henneman is a sim instructor for Endeavor,
06:42and took this flight because he needed the currency.
06:44You can be a sim instructor and also be a training captain or a check airman,
06:49but it's unclear if Henneman was any of these or just a sim instructor.
06:54Sources are reporting that Henneman had worked at Endeavor for years
06:58before flowing up to Delta, but had trouble in training and went back to Endeavor.
07:03He graduated from the University of North Dakota
07:05with a Bachelor of Science in Aeronautics, Aviation, and Aerospace Science and Technology in 2003.
07:13He started flying the CRJ in 2007.
07:16In addition to flying, he served as a flight safety investigator for three years,
07:21and then served as manager of flight safety quality assurance.
07:25He worked for Misawa Airlines and Colgan Air,
07:28which later merged with Pinnacle Airlines to form Endeavor.
07:32The first officer was 26-year-old Kendall Swanson,
07:36who had just received her airline transport pilot certificate six weeks prior to the accident.
07:42She is also a graduate of the University of North Dakota, December of 2022.
07:47North Dakota has a very strong aviation program.
07:50She interned at Alaska Air Service in Anchorage for the summer of 2021
07:56and in the fall of 2022 became a flight instructor,
07:59a common way to build hours to qualify for the airline transport pilot, the ATP certificate.
08:06For the following year, Swanson also served as supervisor of flight for the school
08:11from October of 2022 to November 2023.
08:16In July 2023, she received the instructor of the month award.
08:20Her ATP certificate is a restricted ATP.
08:24She does not meet the pilot-in-command experience required.
08:27And let me explain what a restricted ATP certificate is.
08:32Before the Colgan air crash in 2009,
08:36only the captain had to meet the 1,500-hour threshold to be the pilot-in-command.
08:42After Colgan, the FAA changed it that even first officers needed the 1,500 hours.
08:48But to stem the risk of a pilot shortage,
08:51the FAA created a restricted ATP that some pilots could get with as little as 1,000 hours.
08:58With a restricted ATP, you can't be the pilot-in-command or the PIC.
09:04For a regular ATP certificate, you need to have the minimum 1,500 hours and be at least 23 years old.
09:10But for the restricted, you can be 21 years old.
09:13And only pilots who graduate from an FAA-approved university aviation program are eligible for the restricted ATP.
09:22A four-year program like the University of North Dakota, you can qualify with as little as 1,000 hours.
09:28A two-year program, you need 1,250 hours.
09:31Once the pilot reaches 23 years old and reaches the 1,500 hours,
09:36they can then apply for the regular ATP certificate.
09:39Swanson's type rating in the CRJ is subject to pilot-in-command limitations due to the restricted ATP.
09:47She was new to the job, but she was hired a year earlier.
09:51It's unclear why it took a year to get type rated in the CRJ.
09:57It could be just a matter of paperwork.
09:59One report says that the year discrepancy is due to a recent change of address that reset the clock on the certificate.
10:06So it's unclear whether she had been flying for six weeks or flying for a year.
10:11And the confusing thing about that is that would mean she's been a full year on the restricted ATP,
10:19that she hadn't gotten to the 1,500 hours.
10:22As far as the type rating, traditionally it takes a person two months to get type rated
10:27and then another two to four weeks of on-the-line training called IOE or initial operating experience.
10:35Some airlines just call it OE, operating experience.
10:38And OE is usually conducted with a check airman or a training captain.
10:43If Swanson was just six weeks into it, she was either still in OE or just out of it.
10:49Now, if she'd been flying for a year, it does change things.
10:53But flying 500 hours in a year is easily doable.
10:57So again, I don't know why she had the restricted ATP if that's the case.
11:02We just don't know yet.
11:04Neither Delta or Endeavor have confirmed the identities of these pilots at the recording of this report.
11:10Swanson's Facebook profile has been recently deleted.
11:14And one more note, I want to make really clear.
11:17We still don't know why the crash happened.
11:20It's easy to jump to blaming the pilots.
11:23But an investigation might reveal structural issues with the right main landing gear or it might not.
11:30We just don't know yet.
11:31So please, please don't jump to conclusions as to the cause at this early stage.
11:38With the ATC audio, you hear a male voice from flight 4819, which usually means the other pilot is the pilot flying.
11:47I've also had two other sources confirm it was Swanson flying the landing.
11:52The crosswind component was at 14 or 15 knots.
11:56And usually, first officers are restricted from taking a landing at a certain crosswind component level.
12:02We just don't know what Endeavor's policy is for the CRJ-900 and for brand new first officers.
12:10One last note I want to make.
12:12On social media, I've seen some erroneous posts about the brave pilot who was able to steer the stricken aircraft to safety to save everyone's lives.
12:21Yeah, about two seconds after the right main touches, the controllability of the aircraft was all but over and everyone was just now along for the ride.
12:30And I'm just so grateful that 80 people survived and no one died.
12:34It truly is a miracle.
12:37And for the social media posts, it's just people trolling.
12:40And that's our report on the pilots who are flying Delta 4819.
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