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00:00Okay, and all the while, you've got Europe, NATO, Ukraine feeling extremely sidelined.
00:06I mean, are they justified in feeling sidelined here?
00:09I understand the feeling.
00:12It's not the way I would conduct American diplomacy, but I think that they shouldn't
00:16make too much of it because Rubio and other officials have said when it comes down to
00:23talking about peace, Ukraine will be at the table and Europe will be factored in.
00:28And Europe has to have a serious role because Trump is asking them to play a very serious
00:33role, putting their troops into a demilitarized zone between Russian and Ukrainian forces.