15 mins of Heat! Tobin and Leroy quibble over why stars don't participate in all star weekend. Things get intense when Tobin attempts to "Fix" the Dunk Contest with his star studded idea.
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00:25I'm sure you guys talked about it a little bit yesterday, but Tyler Hero, for those who
00:29are enjoying the president's day off, is your three point shootout champion.
00:34Five Booker T. Five time for the Miami Heat now.
00:38Five time.
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00:40Three point shootout champion.
00:41Glenn Rice, Daquan Cook, Jason Capono, James Jones, and now, of course, Tyler Hero amongst
00:49the gods.
00:50I really would have thought out of all those, Duncan Robinson would have had one.
00:54I really would have thought so, but he didn't.
00:57He didn't.
00:59I still think Duncan's about to shoot.
01:01I do, too.
01:02I do, too.
01:03I think Duncan Robbins is the greatest shooter I've ever seen outside of Steph Curry.
01:06Yeah.
01:07It's the purest.
01:09It's art watching him shoot.
01:11It's art watching him shoot.
01:12But Tyler Hero, there's a lot of bitching about the all star weekend in general.
01:18It's like all anybody's doing.
01:19But I'm going to tell you something.
01:20That three point count does never miss.
01:22It's really great.
01:23I was so anxious watching Buddy Hill.
01:26Oh, no.
01:27Oh, no.
01:28I would also say this.
01:31I hear people say, oh, I want the stars to do the dunk contest.
01:35Why can't Ant do it or this?
01:38I'm like, I'm going to tell you why and for reasons that you can't possibly comprehend,
01:44you non-athletes.
01:47Some of these guys who dunk can see these guys doing tricks in the air and dunking and
01:53going, I can't do that.
01:55Yeah, but there's a different level of cachet.
01:57I think you're going to be granted if you are a star.
02:00No, you're not.
02:01If you have a garbage dunk, I don't care how big your star is, you're going to get booed.
02:06Well, that's not true because last year, Jaime Jaquez jumped over Shaq and Jalen Brown jumped
02:11over a four foot streamer and Jalen Brown got to move ahead.
02:15So explain that one to me.
02:16I don't know.
02:17Like, so it's not true what you're saying.
02:19The star power is going to carry you.
02:22When you're watching, when you're watching, say if you're Anthony Edwards and you're watching
02:30McClung jump over a car, grab a thing, double tip the, you're like, I can't compete with
02:35that.
02:36What do I have to do to, to what kind of dunk do I have to come up with to compete with
02:41that?
02:42So that's why it's always been over the years, a younger.
02:48It's faded though.
02:49Like it's like, I don't mind throwing one guy in there.
02:52It can't be all guys.
02:53Like, I don't mind throwing one guy as a gimmick in there or a young guy that happened with
02:57Derrick Jones.
02:58Right.
02:59Derrick Jones was a G leaguer, his first dunk contest and we're like, oh, that's kind of
03:02cool.
03:03And then we got Derrick Jones.
03:04I was like, oh yeah, that's the dunk contest guy.
03:05And then he had one of the great dunk showdowns of all time with Aaron Gordon.
03:10Right.
03:11Um, but I just, I, I don't, you know, it's, it's really got, can I ask you this?
03:16Yeah.
03:17What the hell Zion doing?
03:18Right.
03:19What's he doing?
03:20What do you mean?
03:21I'm sorry.
03:22Maybe I didn't come off clearly with this.
03:23What is he doing?
03:24Give me a dunk contest, Zion.
03:25But here's the thing.
03:26You owe me.
03:27If the guys barely play basketball, you want them pogo sticking on the, what's he going
03:34to do?
03:35Miss more games for the Pels?
03:36I mean, I'm just like, I, I don't know.
03:43I like, yeah, sure.
03:44You would like to see Zion do it.
03:45What if he puts fireworks on his shoes?
03:47Right.
03:48He recreates the dunk and then the shoes exploding like at Duke.
03:52I would just do it twice the second time.
04:01No, I'm just saying like for people to make a big deal about stars, not wanting to do,
04:07you know, the dunk contest.
04:09I can see why they don't do it because they're, I know.
04:12That's not why.
04:14Because I can see that just because you're a dunker doesn't mean you can dunk like that.
04:21And people say, Oh, this guy has so many dunks, but he's not a creative dunker.
04:27Like some of these guys.
04:28It doesn't have to be that creative though.
04:30Like remember LeBron here's remember when LeBron did the thing, like just to actively
04:34troll not doing the dunk contest because skip bales would get on him all the time.
04:37Like he was just doing, uh, he was, he was just, he was, you can read it.
04:46Uh, you're not going to Zion already carries around firecracker shrimp in the shoes.
04:53Firecrackers.
04:54Yeah.
04:55Um, but you remember like LeBron not doing it like really people swear LeBron not doing
05:01it was the downfall, but LeBron did do a thing where when he was on the heat, he was using
05:06like, he was using the layup line to do like better dunks, uh, warming up the warming up
05:13for a game that we saw in the dunk contest.
05:16Like you're going to get a level of appreciation just being a star doing it.
05:21It's this thing that's been out there where everybody's like, well, if you fail, Oh, we're
05:24going to make fun of you forever.
05:25It's like, yeah, but you're LeBron.
05:26Like you have a haters amongst haters anyway, but from a, from a personal standpoint, you
05:34don't want to put yourself in a situation of failure.
05:38It made Vince Carter's career.
05:39It's the most famous thing.
05:40But he's also one of the best dunkers to ever walk the face.
05:43It doesn't matter.
05:44Like, it's the thing that everybody remembers him most for is the dunk contest.
05:47Yes.
05:48There's a, there's a few people like that.
05:50Like you're going to always remember McClung.
05:53I'm not always going to remember.
05:54Yes, you will.
05:55I really won't.
05:56Yes, you will.
05:57I really won't.
05:58One.
05:59I'm like, Oh, the guy, the guy who, the guy tangible, what about him?
06:02But that, like that guy got some ridiculous hops.
06:05Yeah.
06:06But I think you'll probably be like, what was the little white guy's name?
06:08Yes.
06:09Yeah.
06:10Like, you know, it's kind of like Spud Webb.
06:13Because Spud Webb was cool.
06:16There's certain guys that Nate Robinson, Nate Robinson, it like, it's amazing to see a five,
06:23eight guy or Spud Webb was five, six to be able to dunk.
06:28But Dominique Wilkins, I remember him specifically.
06:30Dominique.
06:31He was, he was another one of those guys that, because I just don't, I just don't think that
06:38is that important.
06:39How do none of these guys have a clause though, in their shoe contract that would get them
06:42like a crazy bonus if they want it, you know, like I know everybody says, Hey, the NBA throw
06:47out the money.
06:48And I'm like, I don't think that like the NBA throwing money at things for right now
06:52where everybody in the NBA makes crazy money.
06:54Like you could be a knife guy and you're making $10 million, you know?
06:58So like, I don't think that's going to do anything for winning contests, but like if
07:02you are, if you are Zion and you're signed by Jordan brand, how are they like, Hey, get
07:07your ass out there and be in the dunk contest.
07:08You don't play games.
07:09Here's why the only dunk contest Zion wins, Zion wins coming comes with, Oh, you not a
07:16ball.
07:17Okay.
07:18But he, but he is a good dunker.
07:19Like he has a good, he probably has the best dunk this season.
07:21So, so my question is, are you confusing a artistic dunker with a person who can dunk
07:34like what?
07:36Because some guys are just like, they can jump and they can dunk from anywhere, but
07:41they're not that creative dunking the basketball.
07:44There's coaches though.
07:45Right.
07:46Mack is a coach.
07:47He has a dunk coach that kind of, they work through because he has nothing else to do.
07:51But he stole Blake Gifford's dunk.
07:52Like who cares?
07:53He did it better.
07:54He jumped over the bar, grabbed the ball off a tall dude.
07:58Oh, by the way, he was jumping over him too and dunked it and fell on his face.
08:02What about the grab it?
08:03No, you haven't seen it.
08:04Wait, who's seen a double kiss?
08:05Seen it.
08:06Wait, jumped over a guy, picked up the ball, tapped the rim and dunked.
08:07Is there running back?
08:08Cause y'all didn't see it.
08:09You're not going to sit here and try and say that Mack McClung is, is, is a good dunker.
08:10He's a good dunker.
08:11He's a good dunker.
08:12He's a good dunker.
08:13He's a good dunker.
08:14He's a good dunker.
08:15He's a good dunker.
08:17You're not going to sit here and try and say that Mack McClung is, is, is going to give
08:21you the goose.
08:22He's more than Zion or John Morant or Anthony Edwards doing anything.
08:26I'm not saying it doesn't matter.
08:27I'm not saying that.
08:29Here's what I'm saying.
08:30Anthony Edwards says that.
08:31I'm saying that I don't know if they artistically can be in a dunk contest.
08:42Not that they can't dunk, right?
08:45You know how hard it is to throw a ball behind your back and through your legs and dunk.
08:51Everybody can't do that.
08:52Highman never dunks and he dunked over Shaq.
08:54But that was it.
08:55What?
08:56I mean, so there's a lot of guys in the NBA that have mad hops that could do stuff like
09:03that.
09:04But I'm saying all the other stuff you see on the dunk contest, you can be a great dunker.
09:09You can't do that.
09:10It doesn't matter to them.
09:11It doesn't though.
09:12Because if you are.
09:13How can you say that?
09:15If you are a competitor, it matters.
09:17You can say, okay, you can say my name all you want.
09:19That's fine.
09:20But the thing is, nobody cares about a G leaguer doing this.
09:23Nobody does.
09:24Okay.
09:25It's literally.
09:26It's never had less relevance.
09:27Okay.
09:28It's never had less relevance.
09:29That's fine.
09:30But just to say, if you put a name there, it's not going to make the dunk contest better
09:35because those guys might not feel like they can do those things.
09:42You think you say, oh, that guy can dunk, he should be in the dunk contest.
09:46He can't do stuff behind his back.
09:49What a great concept.
09:50Like, oh, I can't do McClung.
09:52Like it doesn't matter if I can see Yannis trying to do some cool stuff.
09:56I'm going to see trying no got no, no athlete wants to say, I'll give it a run.
10:02If he doesn't have anything to bring to it, he's like, no, I ain't going to do that.
10:06I can't do those things.
10:07Okay.
10:08And that's fine.
10:09It's not fair.
10:10Competitive.
10:12It's a dead event.
10:13You say you just want to see a competitor says, if I can't go out there and compete
10:20to win it, that's literally the opposite of competing.
10:23What do you mean?
10:24If you're saying, I don't think I can live up to the hype, that's not competing.
10:28Do you think just because a guy can dunk, he can do all those things that those guys
10:33I don't need to see somebody shoot fireworks out of their ass, Leroy.
10:35I want to see a good player try and do something entertaining.
10:39I've seen it before.
10:41What if it's we're back to the five, try dunks, dude, come on.
10:45You think, you think Zion Williamson's gonna take five tries to dunk?
10:49Here's what I'm saying to you.
10:50You make it seem so easy for anybody to go and do tricks and dunk a basketball.
10:57What you're doing right now is the whole problem.
10:59Like you're making, you're taking the coward's way out.
11:01Like you don't want these guys to do it because you want to see some gimmick guy.
11:04He doesn't do anything else with his game.
11:06It doesn't mean anything to anybody.
11:09It doesn't.
11:10Cool dunks.
11:11Not really.
11:12I've already forgotten about it.
11:13I'm like, oh, he did the Blake Griffin.
11:16Cool.
11:17Great.
11:18Thanks, Matt.
11:19Really?
11:20So you don't think that what McClung did was impressive?
11:21Blake Griffin, big name.
11:22So you think that if a guy was a star, it would be more impressive.
11:26It's not that it's not.
11:27Yes, absolutely.
11:28It's not that it's not impressive.
11:29It's just no kid is going to grow up wanting to be Matthew McClung.
11:32That's it.
11:33Right.
11:34Because they can't.
11:36First of all, nobody has jobs.
11:37It doesn't matter.
11:38But it's like, no, it's not going to inspire anybody like Vince Carter did putting his
11:41arm in the rim.
11:42Yeah.
11:43It's like, I don't think here's here's where we're here's where the disconnect is between
11:50us.
11:51You think that guys would just go out there and try, but they're all competitors.
12:00If they don't feel that they can bring something to the table.
12:03This is a crazy argument.
12:04I don't understand how you're saying if you take McClung out of it, he's out of it.
12:08Let's say it was Anthony Edwards, Zion Williamson, John Morant and Wendy.
12:14You're telling me that doesn't tell me right now, honestly, what you saw last night, even
12:20though, you know, Matthew McClung might do cooler dunks.
12:23Be honest with me.
12:24Be honest.
12:25Posh.
12:26No, look at me in the eye.
12:27No, no, no.
12:28Look at me in the eye right now.
12:29Be honest that you can't look at me right now.
12:34I want you to be honest with you.
12:36You can't tell me.
12:37You can't tell me.
12:38You look at me in the eye right now.
12:39You can't tell me.
12:40Look at you seriously.
12:41And then use a British accent.
12:42I am guaranteeing you, Wendy, Jah, Zion, Ant-Man.
12:48That's the field next year.
12:49I guarantee it.
12:50Or I give you four McClung's.
12:53I cloned them.
12:56Four McClung's or what I just gave you.
12:58That's the field.
12:59That means all four guys are going to be doing great.
13:01Four McClung's.
13:03Is that what you want?
13:04No, I want to see stars.
13:06I just guaranteed you four McClung's.
13:09So you didn't answer my question.
13:11So what would you rather see?
13:12The four McClung's.
13:13You're such a liar.
13:14No, I didn't.
13:15Because you, here's the problem with you.
13:23You think just because you've seen a guy dunk that he can be creative with it.
13:31Some guys just dunk.
13:32They can dunk over people.
13:34They can, during the course of a game, right?
13:38That's a whole different level.
13:40And so to think that if the guy has a name, it's going to be competitive, no, it's not.
13:51Because here's what's going to happen.
13:52Here's what they're all going to do.
13:54Because they can't go between their legs, behind their back and all that stuff.
13:57Everybody's going to do the Jordan and jump from the foul line because they got mad hops.
14:02But they might not have the ability to be that creative with it.
14:05If you see Zion mid game, do things like, like seriously, come on, what are we talking
14:10about here?
14:11Okay.
14:12John Moran too.
14:13Those crazy things.
14:14John Moran.
14:15He got hops.
14:16He got mad hops.
14:17But it's all.
14:18Do you want to watch McClung?
14:19It's all during the course of the game though.
14:22What you're saying is they lack creativity.
14:24I'm saying that.
14:25No, they look, they like balls is what they lack.
14:28Just because you can dunk doesn't automatically mean you can be artistic enough to be in a
14:34dunk contest.
14:35So you're saying that's all I'm saying.
14:36What was Matthew McClung's most famous dunk last year?
14:38I don't know.
14:40Oh, really?
14:42Well, you can really only think of three dunks or four dunks throughout the history of the
14:47dunk.
14:48Okay.
14:49Go.
14:50Vince Carter in the rim.
14:51Yeah.
14:52Gerald Green blowing out the birthday candle.
14:54That was a good one.
14:55Zach Levine bounce 360 windmill.
14:58One arm rock the baby under the thing from Aaron Gordon.
15:01Boom.
15:02Boxed in.
15:03See you later.
15:04Brown.
15:05I don't remember.
15:06None of those.