Claudia Schmidt se refirió a Julio César Rodríguez.
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00:00Very well, cover, the truth of the conflict between Claudia and Cuyozas.
00:07Context, you've been away from television for three years, you're watching in Miami, wonderful, right?
00:12But you're learning...
00:13I mean, I'm in paradise, you know?
00:14Absolutely, you're in Miami.
00:16But you're learning everything you do in Chile too, Cata.
00:18And a week ago, as a result of what happened to a great brother,
00:21a participant came out after a harassment complaint too.
00:25You threw your darts against the host of that program.
00:29Claudia Schmuck.
00:31What's the story? What happened to you with Julio Cesar?
00:35Look, basically, nothing happened to me on time.
00:41What happens to me with people like Julio Cesar
00:45is that I find that they are very double standard people
00:50who give a speech to the public eye
00:54and act in a totally different way from behind.
00:59I mean, that's the point.
01:02How long did you work with Julio?
01:04Several years, several years.
01:06I even know him very well because a lot of the data they gave me
01:10for me to broadcast on screen, he gave it to me himself.
01:13Let's see, let's see, but how?
01:15In the scandals of the week, in the foreground, did he give you the information?
01:18No, for example, in that coupé, when there were rumors of couples,
01:24then he came and told me,
01:26I saw that I went out with Leonor Varela, with Ferdita Suárez, with...
01:31Do you understand?
01:32So I had to put my face in front of the screen
01:35and say what he told me to say about the romances in Santiago Centro
01:41with the people of Tamara Costa, and well, all those things.
01:45So the one who always put her face in front of the screen
01:48was this person that you have here, sitting,
01:52showing her face, because the chicken was following you around.
01:57Now, I don't want this to happen to me,
01:59did you say that Julio was with Tamara Costa?
02:01Yes, according to him, yes.
02:03Ah, he told you.
02:04In that coupé, not in the foreground.
02:06Excuse me, a question, my friend.
02:08I mean, did he brag about his trophies?
02:12Yes, I imagine he did.
02:14It was like, let's play the game,
02:16but always in that role of faggot man,
02:21who is the one behind, talking about the women he was with.
02:26For example, others, as many of you know,
02:29in the middle, who wore a panty,
02:31which had the image of a little monkey,
02:34and well, everyone behind knew.
02:37And where did those things come from?
02:39From his own mouth.
02:41And I'm going to tell you something else.
02:43Many of the women who are here,
02:47have had to face moments
02:51of saying, affirming, or denying men
02:56with whom we supposedly were,
02:58because there is a man behind,
03:00who is not a man,
03:02because he really fills his mouth,
03:04saying things that are not.
03:07But that's your point of view now.
03:09These are very serious accusations.
03:11One says, who else is going to justice?
03:13That's the point of view.
03:15Because if it's not so serious,
03:16it could be a tie within the TV show.
03:18You used a word,
03:20I'm interpreting it as cowardice.
03:23Cowardice?
03:24That's why, but I'm trying to use other words.
03:26Well, Nacho, I'm sorry,
03:28I'm going to apologize.
03:29Why do you invite me like this?
03:30Yes, I speak like this, and it's nothing.
03:33And people like it.
03:35Yes, but...
03:36I have nothing against faggots,
03:39against gays, whatever you want to call them.
03:41I speak like this,
03:42and if they don't like my vocabulary,
03:44I'm very sorry.
03:45You interpret, I interpret it as cowardice.
03:47Cowardice, you're very right,
03:49but no, excuse me,
03:51because there are many people who speak like this,
03:53and I'm one of them.
03:55I'm not trying to hurt anyone,
03:57it's just within a vocabulary
04:00that I have very close to me.
04:02Claudia Schmid, very good.
04:03Here we have full freedom,
04:05but in this case,
04:06if you worked so long with Julio,
04:08you never managed to talk to him,
04:10tell him why you are like this,
04:11why I don't like it,
04:12or I don't like your way of being,
04:14or if it was so serious,
04:15I ask you directly,
04:17if it was so serious,
04:18what you felt that happened to you with Julio,
04:20why didn't you make the formal complaint
04:22if you are frontal?
04:23But of course,
04:25the complaint of what?
04:27In court.
04:28In court?
04:30Yes.
04:31And why should I report Julio in court?
04:33Because it's not a crime what he did.
04:35I mean, she would feel mistreated,
04:36but you're going to go to court like this.
04:38No.
04:39You know what he makes me say,
04:40the mines that are seized,
04:41and I have to face it.
04:42One moment,
04:43I never felt mistreated by him.
04:45That never came out of my mouth,
04:47just as the names never came out
04:51to the public eye of my mouth,
04:54of the people to whom I denounced,
04:57because the minute I did it,
04:58is that things get mixed up here.
05:00One thing is a complaint that I made
05:05to the executives of the channel
05:07based on an episode that I lived,
05:10I went, I spoke with the German
05:13who was in charge at that moment,
05:15with the program's lawyers,
05:17and what they did on television
05:20was completely violate my rights as a worker.
05:24Based on that,
05:26it's always like that.
05:28Yes, it's always like that.
05:29I understand you Claudia,
05:30because I was there working,
05:31let me give you the point.
05:32One thing is that it has to do with the work,
05:35that I support that people,
05:36work issues,
05:37please go to justice,
05:38and that justice be done,
05:39as you have done it too,
05:40Cata, I also imagine.
05:41That's one issue.
05:42But about Julio,
05:43I have another issue there,
05:44because Julio Cesar,
05:45first, is an animator that I have read very well,
05:47an animator that for the rest,
05:48for his team,
05:49is very dear.
05:50I have never worked with him,
05:51I think we have seen each other
05:52working on the same channel,
05:53but in that particular case,
05:55what is the problem
05:57that you have?
05:58Because it has not been clear with that.
06:00It is not a crime,
06:01it is not a matter of mistreatment,
06:02it is not a matter of ...
06:03Why so much trouble?
06:05I have no problem.
06:06Do you think I'm going to come here
06:08to throw a tantrum?
06:09I throw flowers, my love.
06:11I don't throw tantrums.
06:12I just talk.
06:17Look.
06:18I just talk,
06:20and I have ...
06:21Talking is free,
06:22and we all have the right to opinion,
06:24even ...
06:25All.
06:26That is, people at home
06:28give their opinion,
06:29through social networks,
06:30in family,
06:31at a table,
06:32everything is fine.
06:33You, Julio,
06:34you are not accusing him of anything.
06:35I am not accusing him of anything.
06:36I just have knowledge
06:38based on what I uploaded
06:41on my social network,
06:43because the subject is mixed here.
06:45Julio with another person.
06:47So the media,
06:49I don't blame them,
06:50pick up what works for them
06:53and mix the whole story.
06:55No, I just said,
06:57this gentleman is talking
06:59in this way,
07:01he is a person who makes me laugh
07:03because all Chile knows
07:06that it is a double standard.
07:08All Chile is not like that.
07:10Well, the vast majority,
07:12for some reason ...
07:13I don't think so, Claudia.
07:14I think that's anger.
07:16No.
07:17I'm going to tell you something,
07:18because I think it's enough for me.
07:20It's perfect, but ...
07:21Because I have memory.
07:22I have to do it too,
07:23I'm a very connected man.
07:24Well, then it's not all Chile.
07:26Excuse me.
07:27No, you don't have to apologize.
07:28I'm going to apologize.
07:29It's not all Chile.
07:30I'm going to apologize.
07:31It's a part.
07:32Within that part, I find myself.
07:34Question for you.
07:35I would work with Julio Cesar again
07:37at some point.
07:43I believe that one should always
07:45take care of the work,
07:47and more in the times
07:48that one is living today.
07:50Therefore, I would work with him again,
07:53always keeping the distance
07:55and the respect,
07:56and trying to mark the court very well.
08:00So it wasn't so bad.
08:02No, Claudia.
08:03I'm not saying it's bad.
08:04No, it's what you feel.
08:06I think ...
08:07Look, I'm going to tell you something.
08:09When one acts in some way,
08:12for example,
08:14I ...
08:16I look at a person in a reality show.
08:18Yes or no?
08:19Yes.
08:20Do you regret that?
08:22Do I regret it?
08:23No.
08:25Have you been in a reality show?
08:27No, no, no.
08:28Here we are all dead,
08:30so you can say whatever you want.
08:31No, no.
08:32I don't regret it,
08:33but I want to tell you something.
08:34But do you know what I value in a person?
08:38What?
08:39When he assumes things.
08:41When he shows his face.
08:43And he goes forward.
08:44And he says, yes, indeed,
08:46I, for example,
08:48my ex-partner,
08:51Fran,
08:52I made a gesture in public
08:55that all Chile saw.
08:57I denigrated her.
08:58She herself said it publicly.
09:01But he doesn't say that.
09:02Yes.
09:03He never assumes things.
09:05So,
09:06I'm not even telling you that he should regret it,
09:08because I, for example,
09:10I don't regret some things I've done,
09:12and I don't regret it.
09:13But I do think that one has to value
09:17when people speak up
09:20and assume things.