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00:00In the clinic at the moment, we are, we reached the point of being able to melt much more fat
00:08than the human body is able to release. Because this is the way we do, non-surgical, it means
00:14that I do not remove from there the broken fat cell, the broken fat cells, but the body will
00:19release it. But so we reach a point where for us it's not about getting results, it's about not
00:25breaking so much. So we are very successful.
00:40Okay guys, how's it going? Today we're talking about, you know, the discussion of the decades,
00:46of the centuries, of the lifetime. It's always about weight loss, it's always about how do we
00:51lead a healthy lifestyle, what are the right decisions we need to make, and what to resort to
00:57when we're looking to lead a healthy lifestyle or to kick-start our healthy journey. With me
01:02in the studio is Cosmina Moldavanou, expert in medicine, aesthetics, and lifestyle medicine,
01:08and the founder of Slim With Cosmina. Cosmina, how are you? I'm very good, thank you. Thank you
01:13for having me today. No, it's my absolute pleasure. We were just having like a very long discussion
01:18before we actually hit record and I can't wait to have this discussion with you because I feel like
01:24this is something that everyone struggles with, either at a certain point of their life or
01:30throughout their life. I mean, some people it comes in phases, some people it's been a lifelong
01:35struggle, and it's always nice to put it to rest and to see success stories the right way. So
01:42that's what we're going to talk about. But before we get into all of this, I'm always interested in
01:47knowing how people started their journey. So what got you to start this? I started from my personal
01:53struggle. Okay. So this made me understand what the patients and what the people go through.
02:0013 years ago, due to a hormonal treatment, I gained 22 kilos in a very short period of time.
02:09Okay. And I was a professional swimmer, I never had problems with the weight,
02:15that was big on me. Like mentally, it really affected me a lot. I never experienced cellulite,
02:20I never experienced, you know, to feel heavy. And I was going up the stairs in the clinic where I was
02:26working at that time. And I was feeling that overweight carried with me all the time. And
02:32it's really heavy. Like I was taking 22 kilos dumbbells and I was walking around with and it
02:39was really not comfortable at all. I tried at that time, everything was available at that time,
02:46I tried treatments with machines, I tried, let's say diets, I wouldn't call it diet. But yeah,
02:53I tried everything, nothing worked. I was accessing my studies in food science. And
03:01uh, it really helped me. Like I started really going to my, to the to the books. So I went to
03:08my books and I was okay, let me let me see how can I help myself. So this is the point where I started
03:14my journey in losing weight, but was very something which really was very interesting for me.
03:20They were the machines. I didn't know anything about the statics at that time at all. I was
03:25working in a hospital in Romania, so I didn't know about any of these machines available.
03:30So I, of course I tried in a clinic where I used to work slimming treatments, but I didn't see any
03:37results. So literally I went to the storage, I pulled out the manuals of the machines and I
03:43start reading. These manuals are mainly for engineers. I understood very well what was
03:50written there because I also have an engineering background. So actually all of these studies,
03:55which I, which I did in my young age, it, it actually, I pulled them all together and I
04:01started digging more into, into the subject of slimming. So I started understanding what the
04:07machine should do and what, what should do in the human body and what they were not doing actually,
04:14because the machines, they were, I mean, I tried, it made sense from the manual, but there was not,
04:19there were no results. The good part is that they didn't, I didn't have any side effects.
04:24Okay. If I was trying now treatments, slimming treatments just from left to right, I think I
04:29would end up with a, with a major side, side effects because this is what I treat on a daily
04:34basis. To be honest, everyone is looking for that quick fix. Everyone wants the fad diets,
04:40you know, the ones that like give you a quick six kilo drop when it's not sustainable or,
04:45you know, the weight loss injections or the invasive procedures. I mean, we're going to
04:50discuss all of these. But I want to start with the weight loss procedures or like the surgical
04:57procedures. I want to know your input on that. And I want to know why, in your opinion, they're
05:01not sustainable or they might not be a wise solution. I believe that all the, let's say the
05:10surgeries, we should keep it for a health purpose mainly and less for aesthetic is possible. They
05:16will not, nothing, nothing in our days, it will be sustainable unless we do changing in our
05:22lifestyle. This is the ugly truth, but nothing is sustainable. Whatever we do is going to be
05:31for a period of time. What will be for long is going to be our lifestyle. So we need to be
05:38realistic and see that whatever you do, you still need to go to do changing in your lifestyle.
05:45What if like if we take for example, because I know this is something that's trending
05:49massively globally, with celebrities with influencers, the weight loss injections.
05:55And I know that there is a necessity. I mean, there are people who are diabetic or who have
06:00pre existing conditions that require to take these injections. What if like someone is,
06:06is actually on these injections, but pairs it up with a healthy lifestyle and exercise? Would you
06:12still be for it or against it? Or would you just recommend, no, go all natural, try the healthy
06:19lifestyle and exercise rather than taking that with it? I think the patients, they have to consult
06:25their doctor. Okay. And to see each of each of them, where are they? Because it's very important,
06:32you know, their blood test to be done. So I think in each case, each case should be treated
06:37individually. Because we are different. Our life is different. Our lifestyle is different. So we
06:44should they should check first with the doctor and see what what is the what was the best in their
06:49case. And then what do you say for like people who are taking these injections just to lose weight,
06:54as we said, is not sustainable. So we still will still the injections, they do a good job.
07:00When we talk about losing weight, but also we need to be aware and we need to, to look into
07:07how what are the side effects of the injections? Is it worth it to to be on injections to lose
07:13weight and then to adjust your lifestyle? Or you can adjust simply your lifestyle with without
07:19going through the injections? Yeah. So I think it's it's very important to look from that
07:24perspective, because the side effects are not not very not not something small. So I mean,
07:30if it's a health reason, of course, we need to we need to take it. But if it's just losing weight,
07:36I think we should think twice. So then what are like the slimming procedures that you recommend
07:41or that you were talking about? So as an engineer who went and saw these machines,
07:46and opened up the manuals, what did you come up with? It's very important to look into the
07:51technology we use to be effective, but also to not have side effects. And I think that's very
07:58important. Because in our days, I treat in my patients more the side effects, then I remove fat.
08:05Oh, really? Side effects of previous procedures or previous treatments have been done either
08:10surgical or non surgical. But first, I need to treat the side effects, then we go into our
08:15journey. And I think, actually, my patients, they're not aware, who comes for consultation,
08:21that they don't, they're not even aware that they have side effects. And we discover,
08:25either through scanning, or I examine them, and then we see that they have side effects.
08:30Can you name some of these side effects that you've seen? I think there are many,
08:35but the most important I think, are the is the fibrosis. Okay, yeah, the fibrosis is the most
08:41challenging one. Can you explain a bit more like, what happens in that case? And, and why?
08:47Like, what's the cause of it? The cause are previous treatments done before by the patients
08:54with machines mainly, or surgical, they develop and they even they come after eight, nine years,
09:0010 years, that the fibrosis stays lifetime, if we don't discover it and do something about it. I had
09:07patients which they develop fibrosis after treatments, aesthetic treatments done before.
09:14Actually, they came to me and they're complaining that as much as they diet and as many treatments
09:18as they do, for slimming, it still doesn't go. So when I did the scan, I first when I when I
09:28assess the area, and when I scan, I have seen that actually they have severe fibrosis.
09:33And some cases they're really severe, like and they're keep the problem was that they will keep
09:38repeating the treatments, which they actually they had the side effect. And they got you know,
09:45fibrosis on the top of fibrosis, fibrosis developed by the body, when it has been done a very
09:52aggressive treatment, or a surgical treatment. So you get it's an it's a scar, it's a scar,
10:00and the thickness is different from one patient to another. And as I was mentioning, some patients,
10:06they have multiple, and then it's very, it's impossible, it's impossible to reduce the size
10:13of the area. I mean, of the area where they want to lose weight or remove the fat
10:20by themselves, it's impossible. So and, but sometimes, after the treatments they have done,
10:27actually, the body is changing so much that they the area stands out. Yeah, it's like out of a
10:34shape. I remember I had one lady, which she did it on the upper thighs. And when she came to me,
10:41she told me I can never wear trousers, pants, because it was so out, it was a bump in the both
10:49sides so much out of the shape of her shape, that it it could even it couldn't even fit a proper
10:56trousers. Wow. So that one, one of the was one case very challenging is one of the first cases
11:03actually I got. And until I found out what's happening, because slimming treatments, if you do
11:09fat reduction treatments, and they have fibrosis is not going to work. Yeah, so we you can keep
11:15doing you can do 10 2030 treatments and does not it will not improve. I can say that is very
11:22unpredictable. In sense of we start the treatment, but I have to change and adopt the treatment as we
11:30go on. Because it's not it's not the same for everybody. It's so individual, and so individual
11:37treated, that it can it even even from one session to another, I don't know what to expect.
11:43So I do the best what I can in one treatment. And then we will I will see next time when the
11:48patient comes was the best to be done at that time, because it's changing. And it's very
11:52unpredictable. So is fibrosis the scar under the the this like internally? Or is it a mass? Like
12:00how does it like what's the form of it? As as the name says, fibrosis fiber. So it's a tissue which
12:08in the clinic, we are trying to break it down. So we can reach because if you have
12:16fibrotic tissue, and then we have fat, as much as we work on the fibrotic tissue will not reach the
12:22fat. Yeah, so even you do so you have to treat whatever comes in your way. That's why personalizing
12:31treatment is the most important because you deal with what you have front of you at that time,
12:36of course, in the clinic, I developed treatments, because all the treatments I do
12:43are developed by me. So there is nothing which I take, I don't know, usually the machines,
12:50they come with protocols. And we should follow protocols in the clinic, what's happening,
12:55I don't follow that way. I create protocols for each patient front of me. So actually,
13:02I don't follow what the machine says, the machine does what I'm saying,
13:08engineer as well. So it's very, yes, it's very important to to personalize and to see what we
13:14have front of us. Because it's, you know, this leads us to great results. Yeah. And it's,
13:20if a treatment doesn't give the patient instant visible results, believe me doesn't work.
13:27Okay. And was that the process that you followed when you wanted to lose your weight? Okay,
13:33interesting. Tell me about that. Like, how how was the epiphany like, like just coming up with
13:38the idea and actually starting the process. So I the first time when I tried the the slimming
13:44machines, actually myself, I started using them on my own body. Okay. And I was able to use them
13:51on dubbed on the thighs, because was the easiest for me to work on. Okay. And, of course, I was
13:57with the, you know, I did a lot of treatments, a lot of trials, I was with the manuals in one hand,
14:02and then trying with the other hand. And then after a while, I have seen that the cellulite
14:07goes. And I was like, Okay, that's interesting. Let me keep going. Like on the spot. It took me a
14:13while because it took me a while until I understood how it works. Okay, I'm practicing. Okay. But after
14:18a while, I saw that yes, it starts going away. And I was like, Okay, that's interesting. Okay,
14:23let me go more. Okay. So I think this happens with my patients when you give them a boost.
14:29I'm like, okay, it works. And then also they adjust their lifestyle. Yeah. Because when you
14:34see that, you know, the fat goes away. And I don't really want to put it back. Yes. So I motivation.
14:40It's motivation. Yeah. And this was for me also. Yeah, I created my own motivation. And that that
14:46kept me going.