CGTN Europe spoke to Arancha Gonzalez Laya, Dean of the Paris School of International Affairs at Sciences Po and former Spanish Foreign Minister.
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00:00Let's talk now to Arantxa González-Laya, the Dean of the Paris School of International Affairs at Sciences Po
00:06and a former Spanish Foreign Minister.
00:09Welcome to the program, good to see you.
00:10Given your enormous experience in this field, just at this moment,
00:15how would you describe the many security challenges the global community faces?
00:22Well, the world is in a turbulent mode, turbulent because of the multiplication of the conflicts.
00:29Around the world we have one next door, here in Europe, in Ukraine, but there are many others.
00:36We've got Sudan, we've got Gaza.
00:40There is a multiplication of conflicts, there is turmoil on the economy
00:44as a result of unilateral measures taken and announced by the President of the United States.
00:51And I think given what's at stake, what we should all try to do is put a bit of order,
00:59calm and not fuel instability which is going to impact all of us for the negative,
01:09whether we are in Europe, in America or in China or elsewhere in the world.
01:14Well, as you suggest, this is the very moment the world does need order and calm and perhaps strong leadership.
01:21Is enough leadership being shown to try to steer the worldwide community to peace?
01:28Well, I think we in Europe are trying to do our part.
01:33And our part is to remain calm, to remain determined, determined in our efforts to integrate the European Union,
01:43determined in our fight to defend the multilateral order,
01:47the international set of rules that we have given collectively to ourselves and united,
01:53united because we know that this is how we can provide leadership in Europe but also around the world.
01:59We are also working very closely with many countries around the world to show that in this moment of turbulence,
02:08we can work together with others, with friends, with partners around the world to bring stability.
02:14That's what we think needs to happen now.
02:17Of course, that happening is very different, isn't it?
02:19What is America's new role under the Trump administration?
02:25Well, that's for the US administration to decide and that's for them to pursue.
02:31We would rather see a United States that is working to bring stability.
02:35We would rather like to see a US that is cooperative.
02:40We would rather see a United States working to reduce trade barriers around the world
02:46so that everyone can benefit and not impose unilateral barriers that would be harmful to everybody.
02:53That's their choice.
02:54What we can do is show with our stance that there is another way.
02:59And how do you view the role of China in all of this?
03:04Well, I've heard very carefully what Wang Yi, Foreign Minister Wang Yi, had to say here in Munich.
03:12I took good note because I do think that China has a big role to play.
03:18And whichever way China will decide to go will matter a lot to the stability of the world
03:24or to increasing the instability and the turbulence around the world.