Margarita está en una tremenda disputa con la familia de su exmarido.
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00:00First testimony of this afternoon, how are you Clarissa?
00:05Hi Priscila, how are you? I'm here with Margarita, a woman who is facing a tremendous dispute with the family of her ex-husband.
00:13They have been fighting this for several years in court, but she feels betrayed by all this she has experienced.
00:19She feels abandoned also because they left her alone in the most difficult moment of her life.
00:23Margarita, how are you? Thank you very much for receiving us. Tell us what your problem is and how we can help you.
00:28Hi, good afternoon. When my husband passed away, we needed money from my sister-in-law to bury him.
00:35She said no, which made my children suffer.
00:40We buried him and then we needed money to pay the interest.
00:47We talked to her and she said she would give us 5 million.
00:54But you were not asking her to give you money, you were asking for your husband's inheritance.
01:02And since your husband had passed away, it was yours and your children's.
01:06Exactly, and that's what I've been fighting for.
01:11I have nothing.
01:14The third trial in San Miguel, the other time I had a...
01:19Margarita, let's not skip a step.
01:22When you told your sister-in-law that you wanted part of the inheritance,
01:27which is a part of a family house, what did they say?
01:33We went to mediation through the corporation.
01:36I asked for 5 million and she said she could give me 3 million.
01:43All the paperwork was done.
01:46She didn't show up at the notary until today.
01:52She went to the National Assembly.
01:57She contacted me and I opposed it.
02:03What was she trying to do?
02:05She wants to keep the house that belongs to her 9 siblings.
02:12She lives in the house.
02:13There is a brother who gave her part of it.
02:16Exactly, she lives in the house.
02:19She doesn't allow her nephew, her siblings, or anyone else.
02:26Margarita, you owed her more money than the 3 million you agreed to in the mediation.
02:33Imagine, the house cost 70 million.
02:38One of those parts should have been hers,
02:41but you told her to give you 3 million in a mediation,
02:44and that didn't happen either.
02:45She offered 3 million and it didn't happen either.
02:49Until today, she hasn't done anything.
02:51She has only tried to fix the house.
02:55Now she has windows up and down,
02:58and she doesn't allow anyone, her nephew, or anyone else in the house.
03:01She left it for her.
03:03For her, she took it.
03:05Did you have a relationship with her before?
03:07No, we didn't.
03:09We didn't have a problem until the day my husband died,
03:12and I asked her for the part that belonged to him.
03:15So, everything was fine until she got the money.
03:17Just like Priscila said at the beginning of this program.
03:20Right, Pris?
03:21Yes, a conflict that sometimes you think is not going to happen,
03:25but the truth is that it is so cumbersome and can last for so many years
03:28that it generates an eternal conflict in the family.
03:31Like Mrs. Margarita, how can you not understand her?
03:33I also imagine that she feels a huge impotence
03:36of not being able to get part of that property
03:38that originally belonged to her husband,
03:40and since he died, it belongs to her.
03:43How long ago, Mrs. Margarita, have you been dealing with this?
03:49Five years.
03:50Look, imagine.
03:51Five years ago, and all the time,
03:53students are changing me, and so on.
03:59Are you in the Corporation for Judicial Assistance?
04:01Yes, in the Corporation for Judicial Assistance, in San Miguel.
04:04And until now, nothing.
04:06Nothing.
04:07Only letters and nothing else.
04:10Look, just to go...
04:11And that already has me...
04:13...anguished.
04:14Yes, Mrs. Margarita, I imagine that, of course,
04:17the legal issue is complex, and the family issue,
04:19relationships were cut off there, absolutely.
04:22I mean, not to mention that.
04:26Of course.
04:27She closed the door to her nephews,
04:29to all of them, even her brothers.
04:32All of them.
04:33I have a brother who also has a problem,
04:36and my sister-in-law wanted to send him to her house,
04:39to his house,
04:40and she said no,
04:42because she was not able to receive him
04:45or attend to her brothers.
04:48Yes, because in the end,
04:49there is a huge lack of generosity,
04:51and it is clearly manifested in this way.
04:53Stay there with Clarissa, Mrs. Margarita,
04:56because we are here with Macarena Venegas,
04:58who can also explain to us, in some way,
05:00how all of this happens.
05:02Because, clearly, here, Maca,
05:03let's see if you can come over here.
05:05We are going to do it with apples and pears.
05:07Very didactic.
05:08Very didactic.
05:09Because, look, she, in the end,
05:11the one who should receive the inheritance is her husband.
05:13Her husband passed away.
05:14That's right.
05:15The heir, then, immediately ends up being her,
05:17not the children of this marriage.
05:19By representation,
05:20they are the heirs of the person who died,
05:23who in this case would be the husband of Mrs. Margarita.
05:25Therefore, it would be her as a spouse
05:27and all of her children.
05:28That is, let's imagine that they are portions.
05:30Let's see.
05:31This is the husband, isn't it?
05:33This is being seen, isn't it?
05:34Yes.
05:35Yes, perfect.
05:36I don't know if this is so beautiful,
05:37but let's imagine that this is the husband
05:41of Mrs. Margarita.
05:43Yes.
05:44Okay?
05:45Why do I put it here?
05:46Because here are the brothers,
05:47plus the brother,
05:49the other sister who is trying to take over the house.
05:52There are five, isn't it?
05:53One, two, three, four.
05:54There are five brothers.
05:55One, two, three, four.
05:56And five.
05:57Does this correspond to all equal parts?
05:59Equal parts.
06:00One, two, three, four, five.
06:01It would correspond to equal parts,
06:03assuming that there is no spouse here, for example.
06:06Because I don't know what happened to the mother-in-law.
06:08Sorry, over there.
06:09What happened to Mrs. Margarita's mother-in-law.
06:11I don't know if she will be there at the time of her father-in-law's death,
06:14if she was alive or not.
06:16The important thing is that,
06:17according to her story,
06:19there are five children here who inherit.
06:21The husband of Mrs. Margarita died, isn't it?
06:23Therefore, this portion of the inheritance corresponds to her heirs,
06:27Mrs. Margarita and all her children.
06:31How many children does Mrs. Margarita have?
06:34More children.
06:35How many children does she have?
06:36Good question.
06:39Five children, but I have four because the eldest died.
06:43He left me two grandchildren.
06:44Perfect.
06:45So, all this portion of the inheritance,
06:48which is the house, isn't it?
06:50This house that he lives in.
06:52And it has even been treated,
06:53according to what you tell us, Mrs. Margarita,
06:55of appropriating his sister-in-law, isn't it?
06:58Because he even went to the Ministry of National Assets
07:00to do the process,
07:02which many people do,
07:03that he goes and declares that this property does not have an owner,
07:07that no one has claimed it,
07:08and that finally his name is inscribed.
07:10But for that, ten years must have passed.
07:13In other words, ten years,
07:14which is the maximum term of prescription in our legislation,
07:17for which, finally,
07:18a person could go to the Ministry of National Assets
07:20to know that this property is inscribed
07:22and also that it does not have another owner.
07:24I understand that here the effective position is declared,
07:27Mrs. Margarita?
07:31Yes, yes.
07:32I have the one here from my house
07:34and the one from my mother-in-law and my mother-in-law.
07:36Perfect.
07:37That means, then,
07:38that you have every right,
07:40don't you?
07:41You and your children,
07:42to receive this portion of the inheritance.
07:44You also mentioned that the mediation
07:46did not go anywhere
07:48and that, in fact,
07:49she offered you a sum of 3 million pesos.
07:52I imagine that you accepted or did not accept that sum?
07:58I accepted it,
07:59but she did not show up at the notary
08:01where she had to go to leave the valet.
08:03Therefore,
08:04was any document signed for that mediation?
08:10Nothing.
08:11Perfect.
08:12It's good that you didn't sign it.
08:13I tell you why,
08:14because, imagine,
08:15if I opened it,
08:16the value of the house,
08:17the commercial house,
08:18is 70 million pesos.
08:19Imagine if you...
08:20Much less.
08:21...would have accepted,
08:22right?
08:23Only 3 million pesos.
08:24What is happening to you,
08:25unfortunately,
08:26Mrs. Margarita,
08:27is so common.
08:28When an inheritance is opened,
08:29right?
08:30All ambitions come.
08:31All, in fact,
08:32the greed of wanting to take that inheritance.
08:35My advice,
08:36I know that you are working on this issue
08:38with the Judicial Assistance Corporation.
08:40The truth is that,
08:41hopefully,
08:42in the corporation,
08:43they serve you well,
08:44and I imagine that they do,
08:45even though they are changing the applicants.
08:47But the important thing here
08:48is a super-punctual process
08:49that you have to ask them to do,
08:50which is the partition of the inheritance.
08:52That here,
08:53in a civil court,
08:54a splitter is appointed
08:55so that there is
08:56the partition of this inheritance
08:57between the five brothers.
08:58But what happens with that,
08:59Maka,
09:00if she doesn't want to leave the house?
09:02It's very difficult.
09:03Precisely to get her out of the house,
09:05the sister-in-law,
09:06who today is occupying the house.
09:07But is it possible,
09:08then,
09:09to get her out?
09:10Being the owner of only a fifth.
09:11But is it possible to get her out of the house
09:12even if she has nowhere to live?
09:13It's not possible,
09:14because the house is auctioned off.
09:15That's the grace.
09:16And if it's auctioned off,
09:17be careful,
09:18if it's auctioned off,
09:19it goes to another value.
09:20It goes to another value,
09:21but,
09:22be careful,
09:23that in some way,
09:24and it always happens,
09:25in most cases it happens,
09:26that it is presented in the background
09:27of this trial
09:28so that a splitter is appointed,
09:29the splitter is appointed,
09:30which forces,
09:31right,
09:32so that the house goes on sale,
09:33and when it's going to be auctioned off,
09:34the person who is usually
09:35trying to take ownership
09:36of the house,
09:37who lives in the house,
09:38realizes
09:39that the value of the auction
09:40is going to be lower
09:41than the commercial value.
09:42Of course.
09:43The reason why
09:44many times she regrets
09:45and says,
09:46okay,
09:47I sell the house,
09:48but I prefer to sell it,
09:49if we are already in this scenario,
09:50I prefer to sell it
09:51to the commercial value
09:52to also receive
09:53my fifth part
09:54of the commercial value
09:55and not the auction value.
09:56Yes,
09:57there is another issue
09:58also, Margarita,
09:59which is also important
10:00that we raise it here,
10:01because it is very likely
10:02that time plays
10:03in favor of her sister-in-law.
10:04If the MACA says
10:05that after 10 years
10:06she can go to...
10:07Exactly,
10:08to the Ministry
10:09of National Welfare.
10:10Of course,
10:11to the Ministry
10:12of National Welfare
10:13to say that that house
10:14is not claimed by anyone,
10:15but when there has been
10:16this type of process,
10:17I imagine that somehow
10:18there are those antecedents,
10:19or not?
10:20Exactly.
10:21If they spend 10 years
10:22with everything
10:23that Margarita has done,
10:24can she go the same?
10:25I mean,
10:26let's see,
10:27in reality,
10:28the important thing
10:29is that the Ministry
10:30of National Welfare
10:31is aware
10:32that there are antecedents
10:33of the property of the house.
10:34I mean,
10:35she has to consult
10:36and many times
10:37she does it
10:38with the conservative
10:39of real estate.
10:40And you have been
10:41fighting the house
10:42for 6 years.
10:43That means
10:44that there are antecedents
10:45of real estate possessions
10:46that have been registered
10:47in the conservative
10:48in the property register
10:49and therefore,
10:50when you look at the antecedents,
10:51I mean,
10:52you are going to see
10:53actions
10:54regarding the property
10:55of the house.
10:56Now,
10:57what you are not going to look at
10:58is what you have done
10:59in the court.
11:00That is why it is important
11:01that you also know
11:02the correct information
11:03that we are giving you now
11:04so that you also
11:05in the corporation
11:06of judicial assistance
11:07ask the applicants
11:08lawyers,
11:09lawyers,
11:10lawyers who are
11:11going to talk
11:12to the head
11:13or head of the office
11:14who is providing
11:15this service,
11:16it is important
11:17that you ask
11:18that the precise process
11:19is the partition
11:20of the inheritance
11:21because obviously
11:22nobody wants
11:23the house to be auctioned
11:24except the person
11:25who is taking advantage
11:26of this
11:27and is using the house
11:28because the commercial value
11:29is going to be very low.
11:30And everyone is going
11:31to receive less.
11:32And everyone is going
11:33to receive less,
11:34including you.
11:35But it is the only
11:36formula and the only
11:37alternative because
11:38and therefore there is always the possibility that some of the owners
11:43break that community, break that co-property and for that they can act with this
11:49designation of judge to make the partition of the inheritance.
11:52And that in the legal plan, Margarita, now I want to ask you too, how was the
11:57relationship with your family before entering this conflict? Because you say,
12:02of course, she no longer admits brothers, she does not admit nephews in her house, but I imagine
12:06that they got together maybe on the birthdays of your mother-in-law, of your father-in-law,
12:10how was that relationship that in some way perhaps you miss?
12:16No, I really didn't go to parties or anything with them, but we did have a good relationship
12:22with my mother-in-law, with herself, with my brothers-in-law to this day, who is called Samuel
12:26Catalan and I say it, but from there on, no, but what happened, I would not have done this if it
12:34had not been that they denied the burial to my husband, that's why, that's why I did it.
12:39And then she wanted to pay the niche.
12:41I imagine that in some way you meet people in the middle of difficult processes,
12:47did you expect them to react like that when you say that they denied the niche, for example, to your husband?
12:56No, never, my children cried because they really had nowhere to bury the father,
13:02but until they fixed it and buried him, and when we had to pay the niche,
13:06I asked her, she told me yes, that she would pay it, but as long as the niche was in her name.
13:13I said no.
13:15So everything went wrong.
13:17In any case, she always wants, she, exactly, she wants to win, she, she and no one else than her.
13:24She, when she showed up, when we went to mediation, she showed up with a cane,
13:29she showed up without a toothpick, pretending to be a hammer, I really promise, I swear, like that,
13:35and I kept looking at her and now she goes through the passage, well, all my neighbors know her,
13:41everyone knows me in La Dávila, everyone.
13:43Margarita?
13:43She took the corporation.
13:47Yes, I would also like to ask you how your relationship is going with your other brothers-in-law,
13:53because there are five brothers and probably there are others who support each other,
13:58did you have a short relationship with the whole family?
14:03No, we support all of them, with sisters-in-law, with my brothers-in-law who are deceased,
14:07which are five, we are supporting five.
14:10I have a sister-in-law named Maria Lorca, my brother-in-law died in a social headquarters
14:15because she did not allow it, she did not allow it.
14:19She is a conflictive person who has generated more than economic pain,
14:24also a pain that goes far beyond that, imagine.
14:28I want to integrate Barbara Canepa into the conversation,
14:31she is here with me so that I can also listen to her,
14:33because Barbara, suddenly, they are such complex situations and they can bring out the worst in people.
14:39Usually.
14:39And there is a major damage.
14:40No, terrible.
14:41I am very sorry for her suffering and for the whole family, imagine,
14:46that is, it is a tradition, Amanda Salvas, and no one expects it,
14:50that is, deep down you always expect people to behave in a decent, dignified way,
14:54and unfortunately not.
14:56And we find ourselves in these situations that Margarita lives now,
14:59which are tremendous, tremendous, it is a tremendous pain,
15:03because imagine, in addition, her husband died, that is, everything, everything is bad.
15:07Usually, and you are right, it just coincides with,
15:11usually all good people get together and the person who wants to harm is left alone and isolated
15:17and is only thinking about their own interests.
15:19That is super usual, thank goodness, because finally the emotional support and support
15:23that she has in the rest of the family is super important.
15:26That is, at this moment, the only thing that contains her is Lidia,
15:29and allows her to continue in this fight, and continue in this fight,
15:31and how good Margarita, because she has to continue,
15:33things cannot have this outcome, because other people ...
15:37Of course.
15:37No, and other people throw the sponge to edit the conflict and forget.
15:41No, no, because she is in the right, she is in all her rights,
15:43and probably, and without a doubt, it was the decision,
15:46and it would be the desire of her husband, therefore she has to stay there,
15:50accompanied by her children.
15:51That can be part of the healing, and probably that happens to you, Margarita,
15:56that somehow you need to close this cycle as it corresponds,
16:00if in the end it is to do justice.
16:02Yes.
16:02Do you feel that way?
16:05Precisely, that is what I want, to do justice,
16:07what corresponds to what was of my husband to my children.
16:10Of course.
16:11What he never gave him, I want it now, I want it, and that is the truth of things.
16:16Why didn't he give it to my children?
16:18I fought for my children, I fought.
16:22After 17 years he came to my house, after 17 years.
16:25I'm not lying, I'm telling the truth.
16:27Yes, you are fighting for justice.
16:29When the children were small, then he returned.
16:32Logical, of course, and I hope everything goes well for me.
16:36This is how it will be, Margarita, because you are doing the right thing.
16:38I really need it.
16:40You are doing the right thing, you have to fight for that.
16:42Yes, now I want to take advantage of you, Barbara,
16:45because at some point people change so much when there is ambition,
16:49when I don't want the other person to receive more than me,
16:52that in the end we start to look to the side,
16:54and especially when there are goods or when there is money in between.
16:57People there kind of change switch and definitely become another.
17:01Yes, it seems that they change,
17:03it seems that they changed the switch and it is another person,
17:06but deep down, no, what happens is that we didn't see it,
17:09we didn't see it coming, we didn't expect that,
17:11we don't all have the same moral, ethical and affective constitution,
17:16not all the members of the same family are the same, without a doubt,
17:21and there you have to go back to childhood,
17:23because we as parents are responsible for this problem that Margarita has now.
17:28The parents, and I don't want to go too far back or give the can,
17:31but the parents of her husband are the ones responsible,
17:34unfortunately, for this upbringing in the children.
17:37The lack of brotherhood, the lack of generosity.
17:39Yes, the lack of brotherhood is one of the most important,
17:43I would say that it is the most important in life,
17:45that's why we have more than one child, so that they are accompanied,
17:47so that they solidarize,
17:49but we are the parents who must teach them to share,
17:53and we are going to leave the romanticism,
17:55not all children are the same,
17:57therefore we have to be attentive to raise them in a different way too,
18:01with the same ethics, the same morals, the same values, but different.
18:05For the most selfish child, I demand more, more solidarity.
18:09For the most generous and solidary, I demand a little less,
18:11to balance the balance.
18:13Therefore, the responsibility of us as parents
18:15prevents this from happening in front of La Plata.
18:17Yes, it is a matter of formation,
18:19and I imagine that clearly we too in our lives,
18:21our loved ones,
18:23we have also seen this type of conflict, Jairo, right?
18:25Yes, look, I was remembering,
18:27we as a family, the Valdés,
18:29we have talked about this issue with my sister,
18:31with my father,
18:33and I remember the phrase,
18:35my father said,
18:37the inheritance is what the dead leave for the living to kill themselves.
18:39And we talked about it at the table with my sister,
18:41we are a super united family,
18:43where my father and my mother have left us the best inheritance,
18:45which in the end was education,
18:47and that we could move forward.
18:49What did I tell my father when he said this,
18:51and I talked to my sister,
18:53I know that all families are different,
18:55and all needs are different,
18:57and I told him, you know what, dad?
18:59You should sell this house,
19:01you took the dirt out for us,
19:03you gave us education,
19:05you deprived yourself of so many things,
19:07enjoy it in life,
19:09because in the end
19:11so many situations happen,
19:13money corrupts everything,
19:15it corrupts even the most beautiful families,
19:17so I feel that it is a very important issue to talk about it in life,
19:19with the parents, with the brothers, with the sister,
19:21and be sincere,
19:23because what Barbara says, there is always a brother, for example,
19:25who does not have a house,
19:27so maybe also talk to them,
19:29tell them not to die,
19:31maybe while you don't have a house,
19:33you can live in it, I don't know,
19:35let everything be discussed,
19:37because in the end the family, as we have always said,
19:39is the most important thing, I think.
19:41Look, I think that Margarita's aunt,
19:43what she must be claiming,
19:45and she must tell her neighbors to justify herself,
19:47is that I deserve it more,
19:49because I accompany them more,
19:51because I live with them,
19:53typical that is the excuse,
19:55and the inheritance,
19:57it is a confusion that we all have,
19:59it is not the merit that leads you to the inheritance,
20:01it is a gift,
20:03it comes to you, it does not come to you, it comes to you little, it comes to you well,
20:05it comes to one, it does not come to the other,
20:07it is a desire of the one who had, and had the property,
20:09or had the millions, or whatever he has,
20:11but it is not for merit,
20:13that is a confusion of people.
20:15Look, and it happens to so many families,
20:17that we are receiving so many questions,
20:19so many comments through social networks,
20:21and we are going to be reviewing it.
20:23I like what you say about Barbara,
20:25about how much I am going to inherit,
20:27there are many children who begin to distribute the inheritance of the parents,
20:29before the parents die,
20:31so how important it is to say that the parents,
20:33to whom we are going to inherit,
20:35the truth is that they can dispose of their property
20:37until the last day of their life,
20:39and they could really die,
20:41and not have any property to inherit,
20:43so it is not a merit, it is not a prize, the inheritance.
20:45Yes, it is true, look,
20:47at some point I spoke with a friend,
20:49and she told me, I'm going to buy two apartments,
20:51and I said, oh, how good for your children,
20:53and she said, no, not for my children,
20:55I am paying them education,
20:57that is the inheritance,
20:59and these apartments are when I get old,
21:01I'm going to sell them, I'm going to travel,
21:03and finally pay a place where I can stay
21:05for the last few days,
21:07if they don't want to receive me,
21:09so as not to be a bum,
21:11and I found so much reason,
21:13because I always say, no, this is going to be for my children,
21:15if you really take the dirt out of them,
21:17for giving them education,
21:19and don't wait for the inheritance,
21:21they finish studying,
21:23they don't make their lives,
21:25because they are waiting for the inheritance of their parents,
21:27and this is not new,
21:29because if we are with Cristóbal García Guidobro,
21:31it is because he is a historian,
21:33yes, Cristóbal, this is not new,
21:35the issue of inheritance,
21:37perhaps historically in our country,
21:39has been a problem,
21:41but the legislation has varied a lot or little.
21:43In historical time, not so much,
21:45the regulation of the inheritance in Chile
21:47is fundamentally assigned
21:49in the Civil Code,
21:51since 1855,
21:53so, I don't know,
21:55I count that
21:57there have been
21:59ten reforms in the last 170 years,
22:01and most of those reforms
22:03are more or less
22:05concentrated in the 20th century,
22:07so, what do they have to do with the area of inheritance,
22:09for example, that the spouse
22:11now competes as heir,
22:13and things like that.
22:15Did they already inherit you other things?
22:17Actually,
22:19but that has to do not so much with the legislation,
22:21that has to do with what is available
22:23to inherit.
22:25What happens is that in the past,
22:27in the testaments,
22:29there are people who study fortunes,
22:31but at the same time also the quality of life
22:33of people through the testaments.
22:35First of all, not everyone tested,
22:37in fact,
22:39200 years ago, as it is today,
22:4190% of the population
22:43does not leave a testament,
22:45because the law regulates the partition.
22:47Of course, it proceeds with that.
22:49What is it called? Intestinal succession.
22:51But of the testaments that are there,
22:53one can realize that, I don't know,
22:55you could inherit clothes, for example,
22:57because it was very common.
22:59Because it had another value.
23:01For example, it is very classic
23:03when you read the testaments,
23:05you inherit your son X 20 shirts.
23:07Why?
23:09Because the 20 shirts cost
23:11an eye in the face.
23:13No, because there were no industries
23:15that made the shirts.
23:17And all the shirts were handmade,
23:19tailor-made.
23:21So all that cost you money.
23:23All that is in a testament, how incredible.
23:25The service, the glasses,
23:27things like that.
23:29And the traditional.
23:31Not even that it was very valuable,
23:33because it was made of precious metals,
23:35but simply because
23:37you could inherit a slab.
23:39It was very common.
23:41Suddenly, the mothers,
23:43the grandmothers gave the slab to the daughters.
23:45Yes, because now one can receive it as a gift,
23:47but that was in a testament.
23:49Incredible.
23:51And also the traditional, money,
23:53properties, etc.
23:55But deep down there are a lot of people
23:57that we don't know how their fortune was,
23:59because they didn't leave a testament.
24:01And those who did leave it,
24:03we can realize those singularities.
24:05Absolutely.
24:07Margarita, we wish you
24:09a lot of luck, but before,
24:11first I dedicate this song to you.
24:13I will resist, because it is a very long process.
24:15Imagine, it has been five years.
24:17But Maca, you were very aware of
24:19Mrs. Margarita's case.
24:21What can you recommend to her, in conclusion?
24:23Mrs. Margarita, the main thing is
24:25that you don't lower your arms.
24:27You have to keep fighting, resisting,
24:29as the song says, for what is yours,
24:31what was your husband's,
24:33what belongs to you, your heirs,
24:35you and your children.
24:37I would like to congratulate the
24:39Judicial Assistance Corporation,
24:41which is asking for the partition
24:43of the inheritance.
24:45And there, your sister-in-law,
24:47who has been a pretty bad person,
24:49and has been quite unempathetic
24:51with the situation of the rest of the heirs,
24:53will have to end up leaving the house,
24:55because the house is going, yes or yes,
24:57to auction to sell.
24:59So, partition of the inheritance,
25:01that's my advice.
25:03How long can you allow her to have patience?
25:05But she already has patience.
25:07A woman of patience, Margarita.
25:09Are you saying something? I can't hear you.
25:11Five years.
25:13Five years, how can I not wait
25:15some more time? Five years,
25:17that I'm in the same thing.
25:19And she, nothing, nothing,
25:21not even without a fine, nothing.
25:23Yes, but look, my advice, without being a specialist,
25:25Mrs. Margarita, my advice,
25:27without being a specialist,
25:29don't get poisoned, you calm down,
25:31and leave it to time, finally.
25:33You have to get to Buen Puerto,
25:35so we wish you a lot of luck,
25:37that you are very well.
25:39A giant hug and an applause for you.
25:41Very kind, thank you.
25:43Bye. Bye.
25:45Thank you very much Clarissa,
25:47that you are very well.
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