Karina Parodi, residente de un barrio cercano a una prisión, comparte su experiencia de vida en la zona durante 53 años. Habla sobre los desafíos y problemas que enfrenta la comunidad debido a la proximidad con el servicio penitenciario, incluyendo motines y actividades delictivas. A pesar de las promesas del gobierno local para abordar estos problemas, Karina afirma que poco ha cambiado.
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00:00This lady says, do you live near here?
00:03Yes, in the other block.
00:05How long have you lived here?
00:06I've lived here for 53 years.
00:0753 years?
00:08Yes, all my life.
00:09And what about the prison?
00:10Now it's quiet since the last riot there was.
00:1320 years.
00:14They broke all the ceilings because they took the prisoners.
00:17But yes, there were problems.
00:18You couldn't circulate around where the visitors were waiting.
00:23You couldn't pass because they would attack you there.
00:26And now it's the fourth part.
00:28And how is it to live with a prison?
00:32Horrible.
00:33Horrible.
00:34We want them to get them out.
00:35The police promised us, they made us sign twice,
00:38we all signed the whole block, but nothing happened.
00:42This is still here.
00:43We can't even go through there,
00:45which is where they get their food.
00:47Where?
00:48Of course.
00:49That's where they get their food.
00:51And the people who work here.
00:53And you see that there is a lot of crime.
00:58It's a marginal area.
00:59It's a marginal area, all of this.
01:01Yes, yes, yes.
01:02We want them to get them out.
01:03The police promised and in the end nothing happened.
01:06I don't know, then they left,
01:07but the idea is that they were going to make a square here,
01:11a big square, residential complexes.
01:14Facundo Pastori and Marina Calabro want to ask a question
01:17because we want to talk to the neighbors of the place
01:19who are upset because the situation seems undefined.
01:22How are you? You were talking...
01:23Facundo Pastori, hello.
01:24Hi, how are you?
01:25How are you? All good?
01:26Yes.
01:27Well, you remembered the riot of 2020.
01:30Now we are obviously going to put images.
01:32Yes, it was the last one.
01:33How do you get along?
01:34What do you hear all the time?
01:35On the terrace you could see everything.
01:38No, since I was born, this was a mess,
01:41riot after riot, always a mess.
01:44And the last one, it seems that half of the prisoners were taken.
01:48Of course, this is April 22, 2020.
01:50And we can put that with audio.
01:52Yes, yes, because this is what the neighbors live,
01:55what the neighborhood climate does.
01:56Yes, they were all in leather up there.
01:58That audio is what allows us to know and understand
02:01the desperation of the neighbors.
02:03Because, of course, living with this is an image...
02:07Look.
02:08No, horrible, the shouts, the shouts.
02:11Yes, you hear shots.
02:13Tremendous.
02:14Devastating.
02:15Tremendous.
02:16Yes, yes, horrible.
02:17The truth is yes.
02:18Yes.
02:19Tremendous.
02:20And you have to go with...
02:21Some of those in front of us must be used to it,
02:23but from my house you can hear everything.
02:25Of course.
02:26And you also say that in the line of visits
02:29it is also difficult to go through there.
02:31Yes, yes, the collectives don't stop you there.
02:34Because these girls, the visits are very aggressive.
02:37If you go through there, they tell you what you look at,
02:39what happens to you.
02:40Yes.
02:41They are the same as what they are doing.
02:42We don't generalize, but of course.
02:43But let's not generalize, Leandro, right?
02:45Because out there...
02:46No, it's that the collective stop is 100 meters away.
02:48There are no stops on that street.
02:50Yes.
02:51They go on for a long time.
02:52They go on for a long time.
02:53They don't stop you there.
02:54Even in the one that is 100 meters.
02:55Of course, because there are no stops.
02:56Of course.
02:57Now, talking a little about this,
02:58I was left with the idea that sometimes those who go on visits,
03:01not all of them, but some are aggressive,
03:03they are violent.
03:04Is there any correlation with the insecurity in the neighborhood or not?
03:08That is, did this bring crime to the neighborhood?
03:11My son, my son goes to the corner.
03:13In the corner of the jail, the pipe works.
03:16The boys from school go.
03:18And I want to send him alone and he is afraid to go through there.
03:21What is the pipe?
03:22I'm sorry, what is it?
03:23I'm explaining.
03:24What is the pipe?
03:25The pipe is the club that is in front of the penitentiary.
03:27Perfect.
03:28OK.
03:29Of course, there are the elementary school children.
03:31And you are afraid that they make a square there?
03:34Of course, because they are going to do sports.
03:36No, he doesn't want to go alone.
03:37Of course.
03:38Go through the jail.
03:39I want him to go because I work all day.
03:41Of course.
03:42And he doesn't want to.
03:43He is afraid to go alone and I have to accompany him.
03:44Ma'am, do you know what is happening in Santa Cruz?
03:47Now we are going to go towards that.
03:49They are allowing some prisoners to go out to work.
03:53What do you think if this happened there in Devoto?
03:59I don't know.
04:00The truth is that the idea is that they do something.
04:02Because they are there fulfilling the sentence.
04:04They don't help to fix the streets.
04:05Nothing that is so needed, right?
04:07Of course.
04:08Of course.
04:09A little discouraging to generalize.
04:11But it seems to me that the lady ...
04:12Of course.
04:13You represent the common sense.
04:14Of course.
04:15One wants this, the resocialization, the utility.
04:19Utility in the best sense, right?
04:21You said they are useful for something.
04:23One says, well, that they are constructive or positive for their community.
04:26Besides, Marina, it is assumed that this will benefit the whole community.
04:30The thing is that I don't know if they are all there to socialize.
04:32I don't know if it can be.
04:33There are many people who are lost.
04:35I don't think that opportunity is for everyone.
04:38Do you think there is a lot of drugs here?
04:39Yes, of course.
04:40Yes.
04:42Thank you very much.
04:43What is your name?
04:47Karina Parodi.
04:48Karina, she said?
04:49Karina.
04:50Karina.
04:51Karina.
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