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KP Main Bari Tabdeeliyan , Ali Amin Ki Chuhti, Pervez Khattak ki Entry, Muhammad Malick's Revelation
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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum, you are watching Khabar Lahariya. I am Muhammad Malik.
00:16First of all, let's talk about the negotiations between PTI and the government.
00:19They have virtually ended. PTI has announced that they will not attend the committee meeting tomorrow.
00:24Secondly, Irfan Siddiqui, who is a spokesperson on the government side of the committee,
00:28met with Shahbaz Sharif, the Prime Minister, and then he announced that if PTI does not come tomorrow,
00:36we will give our written answer to their previous demands, but if they do not come tomorrow,
00:42then the Speaker's Committee will analyze it.
00:45So tomorrow, as they say, a formal end will be reached.
00:48I have always said that it has not started informally.
00:52But there is a bigger news than that, which happened in the last 24 hours,
00:56when suddenly, according to PTI leadership, Ali Amin Gandapur resigned as party president,
01:02but in reality, he was dismissed.
01:06Why did this happen? How did this happen? Where will the conversation go now?
01:09This is a very interesting development.
01:11Because if Gandapur had resigned on his own accord, as is being insisted,
01:17then his arch-rival, Junaid Akbar, would never have gotten the presidency.
01:25This is not a very old incident.
01:27This is from last August, when Gandapur denotified him.
01:31He had filed charges of corruption.
01:33He was denotified and along with him, Shaqeel Khan had also resigned.
01:39Now this group is again in power.
01:42And now we are hearing that in the coming days, Shaqeel Khan will be brought back to the cabinet.
01:49And if he comes to the provincial cabinet, then maybe he will be given the Home Department.
01:56There are reasons for that too.
01:58Because now there is a clear split here, and the idea is that if Gandapur's Prime Minister is running,
02:05then he will not support Junaid Akbar.
02:08And if the Home Department comes to his group, then the police, the court, the DCs, etc. will be forced to support him.
02:17Why did this happen?
02:19A picture emerges from the people who have spoken to Mr. Khan.
02:24One is that Mr. Khan has been convinced that the punishment that has been given to Bushra Bibi,
02:30maybe Amin Gandapur has a hand in it.
02:33Although the punishment has been given in the court, in the cases,
02:36but because the decisions here are not just on merit, but on many things.
02:40So maybe that's why there is a weight in it.
02:43It is possible. We don't want to reflect on the court's decision on this.
02:46But this is a very big thing.
02:48Bushra Bibi's fight on November 24 and 25 came in front of everyone.
02:54And do you remember, in one of our shows,
02:56on that day, his wife even accused us that he is in a mental asylum.
03:03I will play that clip for you.
03:05And now we have heard that Mr. Khan has categorically said,
03:10he had sent a message to Mr. Gandapur that he will operate him.
03:14And if he removes him, then he will no longer have any political status.
03:20But along with that, today we saw that Mr. Gandapur had a very long meeting,
03:25a one-on-one meeting of two hours.
03:27What happened in it? Were there any clarifications given?
03:29Or were there any further instructions given?
03:31This will be revealed in the next day or two.
03:34But this is also a very significant meeting of Mr. Gandapur.
03:39Now see, the group that you call the Atif Khan group,
03:42Atif Khan, Shahram Tarkai, Junaid Akbar, Shakeel Khan,
03:46all of them were standing right in front of the wall.
03:49Now, all of a sudden, they have come back.
03:51So, no matter what the PTI does, this controversy is now in front of us.
03:55But first, let's join us in this segment.
03:58Mr. Akram, Secretary of Information, PTI. Thank you very much.
04:02Mr. Sheikh, before you came, I want to tell you that when the controversy was discussed,
04:06what did Maryam Vattu say in that?
04:08And secondly, there was a big story at that time that when Bushra Bibi was coming,
04:13the truck was stopped for two hours.
04:17The big one, which had all the speakers and everything.
04:20The diesel ran out.
04:22Then there was talk that Mr. Gandapur did not want to go ahead.
04:25Bushra Bibi went forcibly.
04:27In fact, on that day too, he called Junaid Akbar and said,
04:30you and your people will go with me.
04:32He said yes.
04:33Maybe they also went in their favor after hearing his brownie points.
04:36When Mr. Gandapur was appointed, I remember,
04:38someone asked Mr. Khan, why did you appoint Gandapur?
04:41He said, he is a very brave man.
04:43If bravery is the criterion, then I am sure there will be many more brave people.
04:49In the meantime, let me share one more news with you.
04:51It is related to a very old site.
04:53Mr. Pravesh Khattak has become very active at the moment.
04:56And Mr. Pravesh Khattak is trying to become an advisor in the federal government,
05:01inside the interior.
05:03And he has also met Mohsin Nagvi in this regard.
05:05There have been one or two meetings.
05:07But his insistence is that I will not only work on the interior matters in KP.
05:12You give me the powers of all the federal governments there.
05:16So that he thinks that I will create difficulties for KP, for the government.
05:20But there, Ameer Muqam has a role.
05:22So that's why the matter is stuck there.
05:24So a lot is happening.
05:26Let's talk about this.
05:27But before I go to Sheikh Sahib,
05:28just listen to what Maryam Vattu Sahiba said that day.
05:35Tell me, what is this scene?
05:37This news is also that it has been manhandled.
05:39What happened?
05:41We didn't know for a few hours.
05:43It was just being told that KP has left.
05:46But I couldn't believe that she would leave KP so easily.
05:50Because I know she was determined to be there until do or die.
05:54She was gone.
05:55She was missing.
05:56She asked everyone to talk to her.
05:57No one talked to her.
05:58Well, I got to talk to her through my own means.
06:01Very late in the day.
06:02And then I asked her, did you leave with your own will?
06:05She said no.
06:06I never wanted to leave.
06:08I was ready to die there.
06:10She took me out of there.
06:11And after that, we didn't know where she went.
06:13And for many hours, I kept asking and calling.
06:16And I didn't know where she went.
06:18So some of my own connections.
06:20And then I talked to her.
06:21Now she was moved from there again to an unknown place.
06:24She said I didn't even know where I was.
06:27I don't know where I am.
06:28You are saying that Bushra Bibi was taken away by KP's staff against her will.
06:35Then you don't know where she was moved.
06:39So is she basically a hostage of KP's government?
06:43Has Mr. Gandapur incommunicated her?
06:46No one knows where she is.
06:48And is she a prisoner of Mr. Gandapur?
06:51It will be extreme if I say that she is a prisoner.
06:54She is a prisoner.
06:56She is in Hafz-e-Beja.
06:58So she has no contact with her family?
07:00No.
07:01So at this time, neither Mr. Gandapur, nor the KP's government, nor the senior leadership of the party…
07:09Yes, at that time, I had said that it will be extreme.
07:12She is a prisoner, but she is in Hafz-e-Beja.
07:14So this was clear.
07:15And since then, people were saying that this clash will be very dangerous.
07:20If Mr. Gandapur has resigned on his own,
07:24he was not able to bear the burden of responsibilities,
07:27then please explain to us why he has appointed his arch-rival, Junaid Akbar.
07:32Because we have seen this in Mr. Khan's politics,
07:35that first, if someone wants to straighten up,
07:38they either make the opposing group strong,
07:41later they isolate that person, and he is released.
07:44So what did Mr. Gandapur do?
07:46Did he give the name of Junaid Akbar, or did he leave it?
07:49No, he said, put him in my place.
07:51Sir, the first thing is that,
07:53as you said so harshly that you appointed an arch-rival,
07:58and he is a very big opponent.
08:00There is no such thing in Pakistan's judicial system.
08:03There is no such thing.
08:04In every political party, there are people of different thoughts,
08:07there are people of different views.
08:09Mr. Sheikh, you have denotified the allegation of corruption.
08:12Talk this much, this is not a difference of opinion.
08:15You have denotified the allegation of corruption.
08:17This is not a difference of opinion.
08:19Sir, if you allow me, let me clear this for you.
08:22Someone has misled you.
08:24Because he was made a focal person,
08:26a member of the National Assembly,
08:28who was with us, who was our MNAS,
08:31for his work.
08:33And when he was denotified,
08:35there was no such thing in any notification,
08:37in any letter, in any press conference,
08:39or in any press release,
08:41that he is being removed because of corruption.
08:44MNAS's matters were related to the provincial government.
08:48And for them, for communication,
08:50a focal person was needed,
08:52because Junaid Sahib was a focal person in the previous government.
08:54Okay, Mr. Sheikh, these things,
08:56because I don't have them now,
08:58but I will show them to you tomorrow.
09:00All these things, all the allegations of corruption,
09:02I will show them to you tomorrow.
09:04Sir, I am present, I am present.
09:06But my information,
09:07I am telling you as a secretary of information,
09:09that no allegation of corruption was made.
09:11Number one.
09:12Number two.
09:13People have differences with each other.
09:15But one thing binds us,
09:17and that is Imran Khan's personality.
09:19Imran Khan was the one who was going to make Ali Ameen Sahib the Prime Minister.
09:22And the President.
09:23Imran Khan Sahib was the one who was being discussed repeatedly
09:26by the Chief Minister,
09:28that there are two things, two positions,
09:30and I am not being able to do justice to them.
09:32And you must have seen yesterday,
09:34that when these people left Adiala Jail,
09:36after meeting Khan Sahib,
09:38when Junaid Akbar Sahib was nominated,
09:40the General Secretary,
09:42Salman Akram Raja,
09:44Atif Khan, whom you are mentioning repeatedly,
09:47along with Shah Farman, who is the former Governor,
09:49all three of them,
09:50came out and gave the same statement.
09:52All three of them.
09:53If you are also mentioning Atif,
09:54then you should also look at Atif's statement,
09:56that because of his busy schedule,
09:58because of two positions,
09:59justice was not being done.
10:00Okay, sir, in this, again, again,
10:02sorry for intervention, I am so sorry,
10:04but I have to add something.
10:05Please.
10:06My apologies.
10:07Please.
10:08Atif Khan Sahib said in the meeting,
10:10to announce that he is no more,
10:12that I have changed the President.
10:14When they were leaving,
10:16everyone was talking to each other,
10:18and Salman Akram Raja Sahib
10:20requested the rest of the people,
10:22that look, he feels bad,
10:24and he will be insulted if he says
10:26that he has resigned.
10:28If no one has any objections,
10:30then I can say that he has resigned,
10:32and Khan Sahib has accepted it.
10:34So this was a gentleman's agreement,
10:36and in front of Khan Sahib,
10:38no resignation was offered.
10:40Khan Sahib actually fired him
10:42as Provincial President.
10:44Sir, listen to me,
10:46this will be a negation of what you said.
10:48Now you are saying that Atif Khan
10:50and Junaid are arch rivals.
10:52If they get a chance to degrade someone,
10:54they will definitely do it.
10:56Sir, all the people,
10:58all the people, act gracefully sometimes.
11:00Okay, do it.
11:02Sir, there is no such reality.
11:04None of us talked about resignation.
11:06I am listening to you today.
11:08Khan Sahib was sitting there with Shibli Bhai.
11:10I have talked to Shibli Faraz Sahib.
11:12He asked for three names.
11:14When Shibli Faraz Sahib gave three names,
11:16Khan Sahib announced one name immediately.
11:18Shibli Sahib said that I got up,
11:20I went to the chair,
11:22I thought of two or three names,
11:24I shared them with Khan Sahib,
11:26and Khan Sahib announced one of his own.
11:28This is what happened.
11:30There is no fight.
11:32Okay, I have to do one thing.
11:34I have to do one thing.
11:36I have to ask Shah Farman Sahib
11:38that what did he do inside?
11:40What did he say to Bani Chairman,
11:42to Imran Khan Sahib?
11:44On provincial governance.
11:46Then maybe you will believe me.
11:48Okay, let's go ahead.
11:50Shah Farman Sahib came and told me.
11:52Shah Farman Sahib came and told me.
11:54But then he told me the whole thing.
11:56You can leave that topic.
11:58So, we both agree on something.
12:00Okay, very quickly, tell me.
12:02We agree that the negotiations
12:04that Khan Sahib has ended so abruptly,
12:06I spoke about this in a previous program,
12:08is that your policy dictate
12:10is mainly shaping your PTI America.
12:12is mainly shaping your PTI America.
12:14Because there is a message from there
12:16that if you keep business as usual
12:18and it will look like
12:20you are negotiating with the government
12:22and there are very democratic norms going on,
12:24then the situation will be very weak here.
12:26And at the moment,
12:28the best bet for PTI
12:30is the Trump administration's intervention.
12:32is the best bet for PTI
12:34on the basis of human rights.
12:36And that is the real reason
12:38why the talks have been broken.
12:40Not because the commission is being formed
12:42or not,
12:44but because your expectations
12:46are more on America's intervention.
12:48Because locally you don't have an option.
12:50You can't heat the road.
12:52The party has been beaten up badly.
12:54The workers are missing.
12:56You can't heat the road.
12:58So, is that a fact
13:00that the PTI America
13:02is deciding how the PTI Pakistan will work?
13:04No, that's not the fact.
13:06The first thing is,
13:08regarding the Negotiating Committee,
13:10did Imran Khan stop the judicial commission
13:12or was it our demand?
13:14If we were following the instructions
13:16of the American PTI,
13:18which even they don't have,
13:20then the judicial commission
13:22which is not being formed,
13:24was formed on our instructions.
13:26But Khan has announced
13:28that he is going to shut down the talks
13:30because he has been beaten up badly.
13:32No, no.
13:34He has been beaten up badly.
13:36One day before the deadline
13:38of your meeting,
13:40did Imran Khan stop the talks?
13:42Did PTI America stop the talks
13:44so that we can give the impression
13:46that the talks are over?
13:48No, sir.
13:50They stopped the talks
13:52and even though Imran Khan
13:54was 14 years old,
13:56he still didn't stop the talks.
13:58They said,
14:00the talks will continue.
14:02They couldn't meet us for 10 days.
14:04They had such a non-serious attitude.
14:06Irfan Siddiqui and Rana Sanaullah
14:08had to say on TV
14:10that if we don't meet,
14:12then it is our insult.
14:14The government should meet us.
14:16Tell us,
14:18there was a lot of burden
14:20and you stopped the talks.
14:22Sir,
14:24according to Secretary General,
14:26according to Shah Farman
14:28and according to Atif Khan.
14:30Obviously, I didn't go in.
14:32I have to follow the same line
14:34that Khan has followed.
14:36Sir, you used to say that
14:38there are no differences.
14:40I still say that there are no differences.
14:42Sir, I am asking something else.
14:44There are so many chances
14:46that tomorrow,
14:48if I have to run a movement
14:50and there is a lot of work,
14:52then I can't bear the responsibility
14:54of the ministry.
14:56Is there a chance that
14:58the minister will remain
15:00full-time in the ministry?
15:02No, sir.
15:04There is no such thing yet.
15:06Neither will he say that.
15:08He is the Chief Minister.
15:10He met Mr. Khan today.
15:12The party runs the movements.
15:14The government doesn't.
15:16Junaid Akbar
15:18is a hawk.
15:20He is a fighter.
15:22So, bringing Junaid Akbar
15:24means that you are ready
15:26to go into agitation mode.
15:28Sir, Pakistan's justice
15:30has not come out of the state of protest.
15:32Its shape definitely changes.
15:34Sometimes it is in the streets,
15:36sometimes on the floor of the house.
15:38Last week, you saw how hard the protest was.
15:40The Prime Minister was not even allowed to speak.
15:42It is in the courts, in the press.
15:44Things continue to happen.
15:46There is no immediate deal.
15:48There are protests on the
15:508th of January.
15:52There is a Jalsa in KB.
15:54What else is there in Pakistan?
15:56I asked you a loaded question
15:58from the ministry
16:00because already
16:02Ihtesham Ali
16:04and Suhail Afridi
16:06have started making excuses
16:08saying that
16:10they are from the Gandapur group
16:12but they are very
16:14reformed people.
16:16Maybe one of them should be nominated.
16:18Although I know
16:20the name of a dark horse.
16:22He is from Malakand.
16:24I will not take that right now.
16:26But Ihtesham Ali and Suhail Afridi
16:28are they in any race?
16:32He is young.
16:34He is a young minister.
16:36He is young.
16:38He has come from ISF and youth.
16:40He is like a younger brother
16:42to me and to Ali Amin.
16:46It is not about race.
16:48Neither do they have any desire
16:50nor is there any controversy here.
16:52Ali Amin Khan also says
16:54I don't want to be sound like a translator.
16:56You know yesterday
16:58he was asking a question
17:00and I was answering the question.
17:02He said that he has become a translator.
17:04You know how many people are in pain.
17:06It is very simple.
17:08Ali Amin Khan
17:10or any person
17:12on this seat
17:14who is from PTI
17:16only needs Imran Khan's
17:18nod.
17:20No one else.
17:22These are Khan's nominations.
17:24Ali Amin Khan is
17:26the biggest Mujahid.
17:28He has made a lot of sacrifices
17:30before and after 9th May.
17:32I will give you an advice
17:34about all these controversies.
17:36Tell your reporter
17:38to ask Imran Khan
17:40a question tomorrow.
17:42What question?
17:44Any question.
17:46You are asking me a question.
17:48You are my brother.
17:50Ask Imran Khan all these questions tomorrow.
17:52Ask him about Ali Amin.
17:54Ask him about PTI.
17:56Imran Khan will give you
17:58the best answer tomorrow.
18:00You will understand.
18:02Thank you very much.
18:04We will take a short break.
18:06We will talk to Ahsan Iqbal
18:08about the political situation.
18:10Federal Minister for Planning and Development.
18:12We will talk to him after the break.
18:18Welcome back to the show.
18:20In this segment, we have Ahsan Iqbal
18:22Federal Minister for Planning and Development.
18:24Assalam-o-Alaikum.
18:26Walaikum-as-salam.
18:28PTI has asked you
18:30to form a committee.
18:32You are not a good commissioner.
18:34You don't form a commission.
18:36You can sit on your own.
18:38We are not here to say hello or hi.
18:40What will happen now?
18:42Mr. Malik,
18:44the attempts of PTI
18:46to negotiate
18:48were actually
18:50to find
18:52an NRO
18:54before the decision of the case.
18:56To have a deal with the government
18:58so that they can
19:00be safe.
19:02This case is an open and shut case
19:04in which
19:06£190 million,
19:08which is 64 billion,
19:10was returned to Pakistan.
19:12It was not given to Pakistan.
19:14It was deposited
19:16in a friend's
19:18account.
19:20After that,
19:22the Supreme Court
19:24returned it
19:26to the government
19:28of the day.
19:30This is their argument
19:32that they got the money
19:34from Mr. Malik Riaz.
19:36The Supreme Court
19:38declared it as stolen money
19:40and returned it to the government
19:42of Pakistan.
19:44This is the favourite phrase
19:46of the government of the day
19:48in Pakistan.
19:50It was an open and shut case.
19:52Mr. Mian was also an open and shut case.
19:54He tried to divert the money
19:56and got punished.
19:58Then there was another open and shut case.
20:00When Sareh Palace was established,
20:02it was also an open and shut case.
20:04A1 Field was also an open and shut case.
20:06Hudaibiyah was also an open and shut case.
20:08Now Imran Khan's case
20:10was also an open and shut case.
20:12Tosha Khan was also an open and shut case.
20:14When the political situation changes,
20:16the cases are shut.
20:18Mr. Malik,
20:20you tell me
20:22that so many cases were made
20:24against Mr. Nawaz Sharif.
20:26Did he get punished?
20:28He was not punished in A1 Field.
20:30He was given a basis
20:32in which he was punished.
20:34The case in which he was punished
20:36was suspended by the High Court.
20:38At that time,
20:40there was no merit in it.
20:42All those cases
20:44showed
20:46that he was politically
20:48motivated.
20:50You tell me
20:52that he did not
20:54get a commission
20:56from a bank.
20:58Sir, the Iddat case
21:00was not politically motivated.
21:02The Saifar case was also not
21:04politically motivated.
21:06The cases made
21:08against him
21:10were either
21:12that his son did not get
21:14his salary,
21:16or that his father
21:18bought a property
21:20and that he was
21:22the prime minister three times.
21:24He was the chief minister twice.
21:26He is the most
21:28acclaimed leader of Pakistan.
21:30He was first acclaimed
21:32by Ghulam Ishaq Khan.
21:34Then he was acclaimed
21:36by General Musharraf.
21:38Then he was acclaimed
21:40by Imran Khan.
21:42So far,
21:44no case has been made
21:46on Mr. Nawaz Sharif
21:48The case made on Mr. Nawaz Sharif
21:50was a misappropriation
21:52of public funds.
21:54The money that was given to Pakistan
21:56was not deposited
21:58in the treasury of Pakistan.
22:00The Supreme Court
22:02seized the money and gave it
22:04back to the government of Pakistan.
22:06Let's see about that.
22:08Mr. Chaudhary, the cases
22:10will be filed soon.
22:12The High Court will come.
22:14The Supreme Court will come.
22:16But we have seen
22:18that political cases are made in the end.
22:20And on the basis of that,
22:22decisions are made.
22:24The same Supreme Court
22:26declared Imran Khan as Sadiq-e-Rameen.
22:28Then the political situation changed.
22:30So the same Supreme Court
22:32went after him.
22:34So we have seen that
22:36there is a pattern of
22:38civilian prime ministers.
22:40There is a pattern of rise and fall.
22:42You know that.
22:44Mr. Chaudhary, you can talk further.
22:46PTI's politics is visible.
22:48Listen to the answer to what you said.
22:50Political cases are made
22:52against politicians.
22:54A political case was made against me too.
22:56And a so-called
22:58case of Narwal Sports City
23:00was made. But Alhamdulillah,
23:02from the first day, we used to say
23:04to prove it.
23:06The days when I was suffering
23:08from his allegations,
23:10I used to challenge Shahzad Akbar
23:12and I used to challenge Imran Khan
23:14that in 5 years,
23:16Rs. 3200 million has been issued
23:18for development projects.
23:20If you prove even Rs. 3200 million
23:22that I have taken any material gain,
23:24then I will be hanged.
23:26So they are also telling you
23:28that the envelope
23:30on which you are putting so much show,
23:32open that envelope.
23:34The framework,
23:36the agreement you are talking about,
23:38get that agreement from them and open it.
23:40You will find out the truth.
23:42You are also sitting with
23:44a closed envelope, right?
23:46No, you tell me, it was their duty
23:48that when this
23:50trial was taking place,
23:52why didn't their lawyers say
23:54that the envelope should be brought here
23:56and opened in the court.
23:58They are coming on TV and giving statements.
24:00Why didn't they present in that court
24:02and give clarifications?
24:04The fact is that all these ministers
24:06are witnesses of that time
24:08that when a closed envelope
24:10was raised and said
24:12that this is an important matter
24:14and you should accept it.
24:16That is just the confidentiality
24:18part.
24:20The real thing is
24:22the framework agreement
24:24between NCA
24:26and Malik Riaz family.
24:28This is a confidentiality
24:30agreement.
24:32This is not a big deal.
24:34You see,
24:36Mr. Malik, you tell me
24:38if it was the case of NCA
24:40and Malik Riaz,
24:42then what was the need
24:44for the government of Pakistan
24:46to become a part of it?
24:48Why did Mr. Shehzad Akbar say
24:50that NCA has given this money to Pakistan?
24:52He could have said
24:54that NCA has given this money to Malik Riaz.
24:56I have a long story to share with you.
24:58I have a long story to share with Mr. Shehzad Akbar.
25:00He raised many pertinent points
25:02but the problem is
25:04that since it is a confidentiality agreement
25:06then I can neither
25:08take it on television
25:10nor can I make statements about it.
25:12You should at least put an exemption
25:14in this matter
25:16so that we can take Shehzad Akbar
25:18and talk about it on television.
25:20I am not talking to you.
25:22He said two or three things
25:24which I feel it is important to share.
25:26He said that I repeatedly told the NCA
25:28that I am ready to join the investigation.
25:30I came from the Pakistani High Commission
25:32via Zoom
25:34and told them that
25:36they can investigate me.
25:38I asked them why they did not come to Pakistan
25:40and why they were prepared.
25:42They said that people here
25:44use electricity for delicate matters.
25:46I do not want to use electricity.
25:48I do not want to see misbehaviour.
25:50I want to ask questions.
25:52I am ready to come to the Pakistan High Commission
25:54and give an answer.
25:56So do it.
25:58Mr. Malik Riaz,
26:00when Shehzad Akbar
26:02said that
26:04the NCA has given this money
26:06to the government of Pakistan,
26:08at that time he was
26:10the advisor of Imran Khan.
26:12At that time he was the accountability officer.
26:14I agree with you.
26:16I agree with you.
26:18What I am saying is that
26:20everyone says that Shehzad Akbar
26:22is a smoking gun.
26:24He can come to the High Commission
26:26and investigate me.
26:28But I will not come to Pakistan from London.
26:30My physical life is at risk.
26:32He is a partner in crime.
26:34So call is bluff.
26:36You would have bluffed him.
26:38You would have bluffed him.
26:40You would have taken him on Zoom.
26:42What was your loss?
26:44There is no need to take him on Zoom.
26:46Now he has to defend himself
26:48because he is a partner in crime.
26:50But when he was in power,
26:52he did not have a gun on his neck.
26:54He did not have a gun on his neck.
26:56He did not have a gun on his neck.
26:58He did not have a gun on his neck.
27:00He did not have a gun on his neck.
27:02He did not have a gun on his neck.
27:04He did not have a gun on his neck.
27:06He did not have a gun on his neck.
27:08He did not have a gun on his neck.
27:10He did not have a gun on his neck.
27:12He did not have a gun on his neck.
27:14He did not have a gun on his neck.
27:16He did not have a gun on his neck.
27:18He did not have a gun on his neck.
27:20He did not have a gun on his neck.
27:22He did not have a gun on his neck.
27:24this performance had been
27:26sacked for months.
27:28this performance had been
27:30sacked for months.
27:34We can't operate this
27:36operation as a
27:37promotion for anyone else.
27:38We can't operate this
27:40operation as a
27:42promotion for anyone else.
27:44No.
27:49There are a couple of
27:51people ruling in this
27:52country.
27:53Is it not the truth that on 20-22, the Financial Times published the news that Imran Khan used
28:06the charity money for the Shaukat Khanam for his election campaign and political party?
28:12Isn't this correct?
28:13Today, tell me that today it is 20-25, 20-22 has passed, and until today, no one has given
28:23a legal notice.
28:24Till today, the Financial Times has been sued, Shabaz Sharif had sent a notice to the Daily
28:31Mail within a month, and had also started a case against him, that why did you publish
28:40the Financial Times against me on the orders of Shahzad Akbar?
28:44Why was there such a big attack on the community that the man, Sadiq, who is a very credible
28:50journalist of the world, he published a story that he used the charity money for his political
28:59campaign.
29:00Let's talk about this too, you talked about 2025, in 2025, I have heard that the PTI is
29:10very focused and confident in 2025, especially in the PTI's America chapter, that Trump
29:18is going to win, I think the line has been dropped, let's take a break, let's take a break.
29:31Yes, welcome back, Mr. Choi, can you hear me?
29:34Yes, yes, we can hear you.
29:35Now, we are forcibly taking your telephone on the line because of the speed of the internet.
29:39You did all this, this firewall, you are becoming the victim of it yourself.
29:44The whole internet is coming to us at full speed.
29:47Sir, even I am not talking to Amritsar.
29:50This is a matter of your office.
29:52No, sir, this is not a matter of the office, this is a matter of the whole of Pakistan.
29:55Don't blame us for the connection, your connection is going to be fine.
29:58You are correcting all our connections, the laws that you are changing in PECA, the restrictions
30:03on the media, you are correcting the connection, you are trying to close our connection, but
30:09leave that.
30:10We are not closing your connection, we are protecting the respect of those people who
30:16do not only walk on the internet in Pakistan.
30:20At this time, there is a storm of misbehavior on the internet, the way people are doing
30:25with our girls, the way they are looting simple people, the way they are campaigning against
30:30the state.
30:31Mr. Choi, we are also against those things.
30:33We are absolutely against those things.
30:36You are not the only victim of internet abuse.
30:39We are also a victim of internet abuse.
30:42We are also a victim of internet abuse.
30:44Our families are also victims of internet abuse.
30:47But having said that.
30:48But having said that.
30:49We should make a law that protects freedom, but does not cause a storm of misbehavior,
30:53and to defame people, and to make propaganda against the state.
31:00That is absolutely correct.
31:02This is what we also used to say.
31:04Make it together.
31:05You people have done it at your own will.
31:09You do not listen to everyone.
31:11You say, I am on the highway.
31:13There was a storm in the Senate today.
31:17At 3 o'clock yesterday, the media across the country was speaking against it.
31:21After all, we are not all fools to disagree with you on such a basic thing.
31:25Your objective is correct, but your method is wrong.
31:29I am the victim of this myself.
31:32Allah has given me life today.
31:34The hatred and extremism that is being spread on social media, I want to be the victim of that.
31:41It is our duty to protect our freedom, but this extremism, this hatred...
31:48So who is denying this?
31:50Look, you guys give the debate the wrong color, with all due respect.
31:56You talk as if we want the people who spread hatred to be saved,
32:00the liars to be saved. We are completely supporting you on this.
32:04But the laws that you are making, you are making them black laws.
32:08We will make it better, God willing.
32:10Let's go to the Senate tomorrow.
32:12Tomorrow morning, give a statement to the officials in the Senate.
32:15Tell them not to pass it now, do sittings on it.
32:17This is not how the entire country's media is standing.
32:20We also want the betterment of Pakistan.
32:22Look, I think that in the ministry, in the media,
32:26we have consulted everyone, we have sat with everyone.
32:29And even now, we say that if there is no law, no constitution anywhere,
32:34if there is any improvement in it, it is always possible.
32:37Give us your suggestions.
32:39And if there is a better proposal, we will definitely consider it.
32:42Sir, they also say the same thing.
32:44After passing the law, they say, sir, listen to you.
32:46Let's go. Anyway, we'll talk about it now.
32:48Let's come to politics.
32:49Tell me this, that question was left at that time,
32:52that very clearly at this time,
32:54there is a very strong reliance of the PTI on the Trump administration,
32:59human rights and involvement in these things from any angle.
33:02If there is a phone call from the Trump administration,
33:06there is pressure.
33:07Will you guys handle it? Will you deal with it?
33:10Look, there is a system of God,
33:13that God removes the veil of deceit from everyone.
33:17What they used to say until yesterday,
33:19that we are slaves,
33:21they used to say with a lot of enthusiasm.
33:23Today, all their politics,
33:27and what to say,
33:30there are eyes on America and Britain,
33:33that Trump will get Imran Bhai released.
33:36Imran Bhai will be free.
33:38After that, he will say to the nation,
33:40now I will save America from slavery.
33:43This deception cannot work now.
33:46God has shown people,
33:48that how these people,
33:50American conspiracy,
33:52we are slaves, they used to say.
33:54Today, the entire PTI,
33:56is standing on the doors of the US Congressmen and Senators.
34:00Fake cases were made on us too.
34:02I am from America,
34:04and I know all the addresses of America.
34:07We have never begged any Congressman or Senator
34:11for our false cases,
34:14to save us from Imran Khan's false cases.
34:17We were sure that these were false cases.
34:19We fought them in the courts of Pakistan,
34:21and they were humiliated.
34:23They are sure that these cases cannot be fought in the courts.
34:26Therefore, they are going to America and running campaigns.
34:29They are running campaigns against the state.
34:31They are running campaigns against the army.
34:33I think that
34:35they cannot get relief from their tricks.
34:39They will have to prove their innocence in court.
34:42They cannot do that.
34:44That is why they are going out
34:46and looking for support.
34:48Sir, let them go.
34:50They have their own reasons
34:52to fight their case all over the world.
34:54They understand that we are not fighting only in America.
34:57They are doing it in all the important capitals.
35:00I think it is their right.
35:02If they understand that it is a violation of their human rights,
35:04then it is their right.
35:06I am asking you,
35:08if the administration puts pressure on you,
35:10how will you deal with it?
35:12We are not slaves.
35:19Yes, Mr. Chaudhary.
35:21I have already answered.
35:23We are not slaves.
35:25Sir, but you...
35:27Till date, we have seen that
35:29whenever America is involved,
35:31Mr. Mian...
35:33Listen to me.
35:35Mr. Nawaz Sharif...
35:37No, no.
35:39It is not like that.
35:41It is not possible that in your case...
35:43No, no.
35:45Bill Clinton did not get them out.
35:47King Abdullah,
35:49who was his brother
35:51and he respected him a lot,
35:53he used Bill Clinton's
35:55five telephone calls
35:57to make Pakistan a nuclear power.
35:59Because of this,
36:01the whole Muslim world
36:03respected him a lot.
36:05That is why
36:07I called him to me
36:09and Mr. Nawaz Sharif got released.
36:11Otherwise,
36:13General Musharraf had
36:15put all kinds of traps for him.
36:17But I will say again...
36:19So, you are saying...
36:21In General Musharraf's nine years,
36:23in Imran Khan's four years,
36:25before that,
36:27in the hands of Ghulam Ishaq Khan...
36:29Mr. Chaudhary, tell me one thing.
36:31You gave a very interesting example.
36:33You are saying that
36:35if a Muslim king takes you out,
36:37then it is halal.
36:39And if a Christian president
36:41takes you out, then it is haram.
36:43If a Muslim king takes you out,
36:45then it is not an intervention
36:47in the internal affairs of Pakistan.
36:49It is permissible.
36:51But if a Christian president
36:53takes you out, then it is not permissible.
36:55Is that what you are saying?
36:57My brother,
36:59don't make it a matter
37:01of Muslims and Christians.
37:03Imran Khan was a military ruler.
37:05He may not have been able to stand
37:07in front of that pressure.
37:09Today, there is no military dictator
37:11in Pakistan.
37:13It is the law of Pakistan.
37:15It is the law of Pakistan.
37:17One person cannot send Imran Khan
37:19out of the country
37:21at anyone's behest.
37:23Sir, Imran Khan's statement
37:25is the same.
37:27He says that even today,
37:29the country is under military rule.
37:31What did he say?
37:33He used the word orderlies.
37:35He also says that
37:37he is running a military.
37:39Therefore, it is permissible for him
37:41to ask for help from anyone.
37:43What Imran Khan wants
37:45is that in 2018,
37:47the way the establishment
37:49made him a bride
37:51and made him sit in a palanquin
37:53and sent him to the court
37:55of the Prime Minister,
37:57in the same way,
37:59the way the establishment
38:01made him sit in a palanquin
38:03and sent him to the court
38:05of the Prime Minister,
38:07this is his mistake.
38:09He will have to pay
38:11a fine of Rs. 4 billion.
38:13He will have to pay a fine
38:15of Rs. 4 billion.
38:17This is the same palanquin
38:19in which Mian Sahib was also sitting.
38:21This is not the same palanquin
38:23in which Nawaz Sharif
38:25put pressure on the country
38:27and made people aware
38:29that they should know
38:31the value of their vote.
38:33Today, this is the victory
38:35of their position
38:37that the establishment
38:39of Pakistan is also saying
38:41that they will not interfere
38:43in politics.
38:45Last question.
38:47Mr. Chaudhary,
38:49time is running out.
38:51You said a very good thing
38:53that they gave statements
38:55about giving respect to the vote.
38:57Mr. Nawaz Sharif is also missing.
38:59What do you think?
39:01The statement about giving respect
39:03to the vote was won by the establishment
39:05by raising their hand
39:07to the person
39:09who they had made a statue
39:11and made him separate from politics.
39:13Mr. Nawaz Sharif's statement
39:15was that the fake leadership
39:17should not be influenced
39:19by the interference in Pakistan.
39:21Mr. Chaudhary,
39:23thank you very much.
39:25We have run out of time.
39:27Thank you very much.
39:29This is a very interesting concept
39:31of giving respect to the vote.
39:33If one hand is raised
39:35to the other,
39:37then maybe this is the meaning
39:39of giving respect to the vote.
39:41Maybe Mr. Mian has some other thoughts
39:43but this is the reality.
39:45Anyway, allow me to leave.