Are Better Negotiations Now in Sight for PTI? Hamid Raza
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00:00Is it possible that there are no better negotiations than these?
00:04No.
00:05The meeting with the Army Chief regarding security issues,
00:08there were also a lot of disagreements regarding that.
00:11Instead of those things...
00:12Your smile is telling me something else, Mr. Madraza.
00:14No, there is nothing like this.
00:15Any other hopes for negotiations?
00:19We have tolerated oppression for two and a half years,
00:21we have tolerated discrimination.
00:22We have nothing to lose, basically.
00:25If not, then no.
00:26Okay, what next?
00:27No more negotiations?
00:28It's over. What next?
00:31Negotiations are going on in our Parliament.
00:33In the National Assembly and the Provincial Assembly.
00:35It's going on very effectively.
00:37The Prime Minister has come twice this week,
00:39and he hasn't delivered a speech twice because of our negotiations.
00:44We won't let him do it even now.
00:46After that, our second option is to go to the Grand Opposition Alliance.
00:50We have met Shahid Khan Abbasi,
00:52we have met Mustafa Nawaz Khokhar,
00:55they have principally agreed to be with us in this movement.
00:58But I'm sorry, I'm going to be short.
00:59I spoke to Shahid Khan Abbasi and he said
01:01that they don't agree with your way of protesting.
01:04They don't think your way of protesting is right.
01:07So if your allies don't think your way of protesting is right...
01:11We will convince them.
01:13Will they come to you or will you go to them?
01:15No.
01:16Not for a meeting, but for a way of protesting.
01:19No, they will come to us, we will go to them.
01:21You are saying that the Todd Ford people will protest?
01:23No, not Todd Ford.
01:24Why is there a situation of Todd Ford?
01:27Are we crazy?
01:28That we will come here and pick up a stick and start protesting?
01:32We are political workers, civilised Pakistanis.
01:34Tell me, the massacre that took place here on 26th November,
01:37which Todd Ford are you talking about from our side?
01:40You had videos, right?
01:41What videos?
01:42You had videos of weapons.
01:43No, we don't have any videos.
01:44You had a video of Ali Amin Ghandapur Sahib firing a weapon.
01:46No, we don't have any videos here.
01:47You had a video of a gas shell.
01:49No, we don't have any videos here.
01:50On 26th November?
01:51If you want to make videos like this,
01:53then I don't know how many of my videos you will make.
01:56We are people who believe in weapons.
01:58On 26th November, Ali Amin's private guards didn't even have weapons.
02:04This was a set protocol.
02:05And this is what the government claims.
02:07I believe that the Judicial Commission should be made about this.
02:09No, the government claims that...
02:10They say that we didn't give live ammunition.
02:12No, they say that the bullets didn't fire.
02:14Then they say that it is possible that the bullets fired.
02:17Then your interior minister said that there is not a single bullet injury.
02:22Then your advisor to prime minister said
02:25that it is possible that there are some casualties and some bullet injuries.
02:28The 56 bullet injuries that I have given in detail,
02:31they have medical certificates.
02:33Amit Raju Sahib, this is a thing that you people have to sit together
02:37and decide in the Judicial Commission.
02:39Because before that, you also had lakhs of people who were missing.
02:42After that, they came to the houses.
02:44Then they came to Darjeeling.
02:45Lakhs never disappeared.
02:47They were in hundreds.
02:48Listen to me, they were in hundreds.
02:49When there is a mob,
02:51In these 44 years, when there is a mob and it is massive,
02:54the government attacks it,
02:56in that state of panic,
02:58if 100 people are not returning to their homes,
03:01there are corpses around you,
03:03there are injuries,
03:04then it is assumed that they are presumably dead.
03:06But that is not said from an official account.
03:08No, official.
03:09Let me tell you something else.
03:11Our official spokesperson is Sheikh Waqas Akram.
03:14Sheikh Waqas Akram,
03:17Sheikh Waqas Akram,
03:19Sheikh Waqas Akram,
03:21officially, 13th and 14th were attacked.
03:23No, no, no, no.
03:25Our official, any account,
03:27the figure of death,
03:29the exact number of the death was not given.
03:33Second, any figure,
03:35we gave 56,
03:37of bullet injuries,
03:39the first figure of 200,
03:41Sheikh Waqas Akram gave.
03:43These are missing.
03:45How did the government find them?
03:47They were missing.
03:49How did they find out?
03:51They found them in Attock Jail,
03:53Jhelum Jail,
03:55Rehmanpur Police Station.
03:57We did not take any responsibility.
03:59The people who were found,
04:01we cutlisted their names.
04:03Neither your line, nor the government's line.
04:05These lines are parallel.
04:07They have no connection.
04:09If there is a judicial commission,
04:11maybe they will do something like this.
04:14Half of it will be accepted by the judicial commission.
04:16Why not?
04:18At the time, I will tell you,
04:20the cases against me,
04:22I am a human being,
04:24I am a Jinn,
04:26Who?
04:28The military installations were attacked.
04:30The bodies of the martyrs were broken.
04:32Is that justified?
04:34Absolutely agreed.
04:36I will ask the government.
04:38I am giving my answer.
04:40If we were guilty,
04:42we would have got the punishment.
04:44We have already got the punishment.
04:46We have got it from the military court.
04:48We have got it from Gujarat's anti-terrorist court.
04:50We have categorically said,
04:52take out the CCTV footages,
04:56the people who went inside,
04:58in any building,
05:00if they are our people,
05:02we, Imran Khan,
05:04he himself announced that
05:06I will disown them,
05:08I will take action against them,
05:11and I will condemn this act.
05:13Got your point.
05:15This is a long debate.
05:17We will get into this on another day.
05:19Just tell me,
05:21is the civil disobedience coming or not?
05:23Because the last one flopped.
05:25A lot is coming.
05:27What is coming?
05:29Let it come, it won't be on 26th November.
05:31Bullets won't be fired.
05:33From your side or from their side?
05:35If it was fired from our side,
05:37then a lot would have happened.
05:39We will also bring weapons this time.
05:41Tell me, is there any such plan?
05:43If you inform some private people
05:45to kill us, then fine.
05:47But what is the problem in bringing our weapons?
05:49We have licensed weapons here.
05:51Are you threatening us?
05:53No, I am not threatening,
05:55I am simply saying,
05:57to protect myself, this is my right,
05:59given by the constitution of Pakistan,
06:01the licensed weapon I have,
06:03I can carry it.
06:05If a person tries to kill me,
06:08whether he is in uniform or someone else,
06:10there is a big difference.
06:12We have never fired a bullet on a person in uniform.
06:14Keep one thing in mind.
06:16When the rangers died,
06:18who fired the bullet?
06:20We have brought an investigation.
06:22That's what I am saying.
06:24I will never support this act.
06:26We are not going to fire a bullet on our uniform.
06:28Because of this uniform,
06:30my father was martyred.
06:32More than 160 people of my party were killed.
06:34We have taken bullets.
06:36Tell me this.
06:38What next?
06:40Do you want civil disobedience or not?
06:42Civil disobedience will come with full throttle.
06:44There will be a protest.
06:46There will be a public street protest.
06:48We will protest.
06:50We will have a Jalsa.
06:52We will have a Jalusa.
06:54We will have a Long March.