ウチ、“断捨離”しました！2025年1月21日 「大阪発・機械だらけの家 病の父へ“安らぎ展示館”」
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00:00Now, let's choose a new life.
00:06Leave the useless things in the house,
00:09throw away the unnecessary things,
00:12and leave the attachment to things.
00:16Choose a new life and way of life with your own decisions.
00:21That is Danshari.
00:25The one who makes the decision is
00:28the founder of Danshari, Hideko Yamashita.
00:33She is a master of Danshari and life,
00:36who has guided countless people.
00:40The shape of a couple, the shape of marriage,
00:43the Danshari of conviction.
00:46To cherish things means to use them.
00:51Choose a new life and way of life with your own decisions.
00:56The door of life opens now.
01:01I don't use it now.
01:04I think I will use it in the future.
01:10The machines she didn't use were all over the house.
01:15The family wants to dispose of them as soon as possible.
01:19But there is a reason why they don't.
01:23I have used them for hundreds of thousands of times.
01:27It's the place where her sick father rests.
01:34Yamashita-san, who heard the story,
01:39Should I give up?
01:43I will make it so that it can be displayed like a museum.
01:49She gave up on disposing of them,
01:52and decided to make an exhibition of her father in the house.
01:59But this is more difficult than she thought.
02:04I don't think it will end.
02:09What should I do to make it a wonderful museum?
02:13She doesn't know the answer.
02:16And...
02:18Do you need this?
02:20Yes, I need it.
02:22I need this, too.
02:26Her parents are struggling.
02:30What should I do to make an exhibition of my sick father?
02:37Oh, it's coming off.
02:43This is Hideko Yamashita's house.
02:48The first machine-filled house in Osaka.
02:51The exhibition of her sick father.
03:00Kawachi, Naganoshi, a town in the suburbs of Osaka.
03:05The SOS came from her daughter, who lives far away from her parents.
03:13Nice to meet you.
03:16Misaki, 44 years old.
03:20Every time I go back to my parents' house,
03:23I see more and more things.
03:25It's getting dirtier,
03:27and I feel like I'm losing my footing.
03:30I want to make it clean.
03:34More and more things are coming in.
03:37It's a difficult situation.
03:42I'm home.
03:44Hello.
03:47Misaki's mother, Masako, 71 years old,
03:50welcomed her to her parents' house.
03:56She raised three children,
03:59and now she lives with Kunihiko.
04:05The windows of the house are 5LDK.
04:10What is this place?
04:12This is the living room.
04:18Isn't it a nice living room?
04:23It doesn't look like there's a lot of stuff.
04:29Huh?
04:31There's something I'm not used to seeing.
04:36It's a machine that can do echo,
04:39but I'm not sure what it is.
04:45It's not an echo machine.
04:48It's an infrared machine.
04:51It's usually used in hospitals.
04:55There are other machines, too.
05:01I don't know what this is.
05:03It's a temple.
05:06This is a temple machine that takes pictures of temples.
05:12This is...
05:14I think it's a medical device.
05:20Why does she have a medical device in her house?
05:27I had a job,
05:30but I quit my job and brought this home.
05:39Who brought this home?
05:41My husband.
05:44Kunihiko used to work at a company that sold medical devices.
05:54She quit her job six years ago,
05:57but she still has a job and a business partner,
06:01so she gets used to it.
06:07I don't use it anymore.
06:10I don't use it anymore.
06:12I think I'll probably use it again in the future.
06:18Even her mother doesn't know why she gets it.
06:26The machine she got is in the next room, too.
06:32Where is it in the dining room?
06:37It was on the floor.
06:43This is a blood pressure gauge.
06:48Is this what her daughter was talking about?
06:56But if she doesn't use it,
06:59she should ask her father to dispose of it.
07:03That's right.
07:06If I ask him what to do with it,
07:09he tells me to leave it there.
07:12I don't want to make a big deal out of it.
07:19So she doesn't want to dispose of it
07:22until her father is in a bad mood.
07:28What's on the second floor?
07:34What?
07:37This, too?
07:42This is her father's storage room.
07:48What's in all this?
07:54It's like a microscope.
07:56I think I bought this recently.
08:00A digital microscope with a liquid crystal screen.
08:05I think I've had this for about 30 years.
08:11It's an old-fashioned thing
08:14that was used when computers first came out.
08:19There are old audio devices
08:22and a lot of cameras.
08:26Her father is a mechanical enthusiast.
08:33I think this is a temple device.
08:41She also has medical equipment.
08:49Father, do you need this even though you don't use it?
08:56If I need it, it's easy to use.
09:02You don't want to dispose of it?
09:04No, I don't.
09:06For example, what's in here?
09:08I'm thinking of giving this to the clinic.
09:13I'm using it.
09:16It's been used for hundreds of thousands of years.
09:21He says he's going to need it
09:24at a clinic he knows,
09:26so he's going to keep it.
09:32But when Misaki and her mother
09:35released the SOS,
09:37they had a deeper problem.
09:44They were taken to the first-floor Japanese-style room.
09:48This is her mother's room.
09:52I want to make this a bedroom.
09:55It's dangerous to go to the bathroom at night,
10:01so I'm going to make this a bedroom.
10:06Now, there are two bedrooms
10:09where her father and mother sleep.
10:14She moved them to the first-floor Japanese-style room
10:17for her father's sake.
10:22My husband's walking is getting worse,
10:31so I want to make sure he doesn't use the stairs.
10:38A few months ago,
10:40he was diagnosed with a disease.
10:45It's a progressive disease that makes walking difficult.
10:51He's having trouble climbing the stairs.
11:00He wants to move to the first-floor Japanese-style room.
11:06The problem is his father's belongings.
11:12Especially when there are things at his feet,
11:15he's afraid of falling.
11:20Sometimes I trip and fall,
11:25so I have to be careful
11:29when I go to the first-floor Japanese-style room.
11:38If possible, she wants to make machines without fighting with her father.
11:44That's her earnest wish.
11:55Mr. Yamashita.
11:57Nice to meet you.
12:03Hello.
12:05Nice to meet you. I'm Hideko Yamashita.
12:07Nice to meet you.
12:08Nice to meet you, too.
12:11How does Mr. Yamashita solve this problem?
12:17No matter where the problem is,
12:20I can tell it's hard to move.
12:24First of all,
12:26it's hard to move because there are a lot of furniture in the living room.
12:32It's even harder to move because of his father's machines.
12:39This is a treatment for hemorrhoids.
12:46Your father brought this.
12:49But you want to leave it, right?
12:51Yes, I want to leave it.
12:57She wants to respect her father's will,
13:00but she can't do that to live safely.
13:07My feet are getting injured,
13:10so I want to make it easier for me to move my feet and table.
13:19Mr. Yamashita suddenly gives an answer to this difficult question.
13:26You want to make it easier for your father, right?
13:30Yes, I want to make it easier for him to move his feet and table.
13:35Should I give up?
13:42She gives up on the treatment.
13:46Why?
13:49My feet are getting injured,
13:52so I can't move my feet anymore.
13:55If I take off the important things that I'm interested in,
14:00my heart will cry.
14:03I want to take it off.
14:07Her father must be in shock because he found a disease.
14:13If he takes off the important things,
14:16his heart will get even weaker.
14:22Mr. Yamashita says we should avoid it.
14:30How do you take it off?
14:32You don't leave it alone.
14:35You make it look like a museum.
14:42I see.
14:45He gathers the machines scattered around the house into one room
14:50to make a museum for his father.
14:57That way, the first floor will be cleaned up
15:00and the danger of his father falling will be reduced.
15:03It's like two birds with one stone.
15:07Mr. Yamashita is amazing.
15:10He comes up with amazing ideas.
15:16Not only does he want to make a museum for his father,
15:20but he also wants to make a second-floor storage room full of machines.
15:27I think we should make it look like a display of his father's important things.
15:32We should make it look like a display of his father's important things.
15:35It looks like it's been thrown out of the house.
15:38People will think,
15:40this is how he treats his father.
15:45Making a museum is also a way to encourage his sick father.
15:53It's an idea I've never had before, so I'm surprised.
15:57You only think about throwing it away.
15:59How can I throw it away without fighting?
16:02That's impossible.
16:08But I hope it will come out.
16:10It will come out, right?
16:12I hope you understand.
16:14That's good.
16:17His father is also very supportive of making a museum.
16:24Now, let's start the wheelbarrow.
16:30First, he tidies up the living room and dining room on the first floor.
16:37It's easy to see here.
16:39This is where his father's exhibition room is.
16:42Is this the exhibition room?
16:43It's the exhibition room.
16:46He brings the machines to the next room to display them in the exhibition room.
16:54Shall we go?
16:59I might be buried with my father's precious things.
17:04It seems that there are various things of his father, such as machines and documents.
17:13The dining room is also not a straight line.
17:20The shelves are full.
17:24In fact, these are all his father's belongings.
17:31He asks his father to check if there is anything that can be made into a wheelbarrow.
17:38What's this?
17:39This is a wheelbarrow.
17:40This is a wheelbarrow.
17:44He says there is a mobile temple.
17:49Do you need this? A ball with autograph.
17:53Whose autograph is this?
17:55I don't know whose autograph this is.
18:00He says he doesn't know whose autograph this is, but he keeps this.
18:08This is a Game Boy.
18:10Game Boy?
18:11Software.
18:14This is a game software that his father played a long time ago.
18:20Should I leave this here?
18:22Leave it here.
18:24But I don't have a Game Boy.
18:27Let's look for a Game Boy.
18:33He takes everything.
18:39Then his mother suddenly...
18:43Don't you need a toothpick?
18:45I don't need a toothpick.
18:49What about this?
18:50I don't need this.
18:57He doesn't want to be disposed of at all, so he seems to be irritated.
19:04Yamashita-san, who was watching them, calls them to the corridor.
19:11It's up to you to throw away what you throw away.
19:16And ask your father what he cares about.
19:22Ask him what he doesn't need.
19:25Tell him what he cares about.
19:31Yamashita-san says his father is afraid of being disposed of.
19:41That's why he insists on keeping what he doesn't need.
19:49He says it's important to understand his father's feelings and talk to him.
19:54He says it's important to open up his heart.
19:59Your father is also an important member of the team.
20:02Please spread it out.
20:06Yamashita-san gives him advice.
20:12He takes everything out of the shelf and puts it away.
20:19When he takes everything out, it's a huge amount.
20:24I need this. It's my father's collector.
20:27I've been collecting this for a long time.
20:32What's this?
20:33Misaki-san is the one who stays close to her father.
20:36It's an important item.
20:40Her mother is the one who disposes of what she clearly doesn't need.
20:49While she's doing her job,
20:54What's this?
20:55There was something in it.
20:57I don't need it anymore.
20:59I don't need it anymore.
21:03Her father says it's okay to dispose of it.
21:10He tries to keep what's important to him.
21:15If you have that sense of security, you can be positive.
21:23This is a little painful.
21:26I didn't know there was such a thing.
21:30Maybe he put too much stuff in it.
21:33The back of the shelf is full.
21:38There's nothing he can do about it, so he disposes of it.
21:43Be careful with your head.
21:46In exchange, he takes down the drawer from the second floor.
21:52He uses this as a sideboard.
21:58As a result of his smooth work,
22:05The dining room, which was full of things on the table and floor,
22:13It's refreshing.
22:15It's refreshing.
22:17There's no longer a tall shelf, so there's more room in the space.
22:25The living room, which had a medical device to keep it in place,
22:31There's nothing to trip on.
22:35This will make it easier for his father to move.
22:40In addition, he reduced the number of sofas to increase the sense of freedom.
22:48It's refreshing. I'm surprised.
22:50I made a mistake. I made a mistake, too.
22:54Skip it.
22:56Dad.
22:58I can't stand it anymore.
23:01I can't stop saying it.
23:04I can't stop saying it.
23:08However, the next room is full of things.
23:15Machines and documents carried to the exhibition hall on the second floor.
23:18In addition, the furniture that he decided to dispose of is piled up.
23:23This is where the work begins.
23:30This is where the work begins.
23:37This is how his father's exhibition hall began.
23:42However, when he tried it, he realized that it was more difficult than he had imagined.
23:53He decided to move to a new place.
24:00He decided to move to a new place.
24:07A week later.
24:11A week after the start of the demolition.
24:17Good morning.
24:21I wonder if the work is going well.
24:27Oh, there's less stuff.
24:32There was so much stuff on the first day.
24:38It's almost gone.
24:43I threw away a lot of things I didn't need.
24:47I threw away a lot of things I didn't need.
24:50Since then, he has been working every day and disposing of unnecessary furniture.
24:59Both of them are doing their best.
25:03Today is another day of work.
25:07Goodbye.
25:11He mainly disposes of his mother's things and disposes of unnecessary things.
25:22He thought it was going well, but in fact, there was a little incident on the first night.
25:30A phone card.
25:33He said he couldn't find two phone cards, so he turned over all the bags and I did it.
25:42It took me 12 hours.
25:47After the demolition, his father said that he lost an important phone card.
25:54It caused a lot of trouble.
25:58Fortunately, the phone card was found elsewhere.
26:04However, it seems that this happens from time to time.
26:11He's usually smiling and kind.
26:15But when he loses something or goes to a place he can't see, he keeps looking for it.
26:24It makes him angry.
26:28He keeps saying it persistently.
26:34When he loses something, he becomes anxious.
26:39That's why he needs to be careful with his father's things.
26:48After that, the Japanese-style room was almost empty.
26:52But here's the problem.
26:58He carried all his father's machines to the second floor.
27:04What should I do?
27:11In the storage room that was supposed to be a museum,
27:17things overflowed.
27:23For now, let's put together the machines.
27:30First, medical equipment,
27:35cameras,
27:38computers, and so on.
27:43I don't think I can play this.
27:47There are a lot of home videos of his father.
27:55I buy a lot of things.
27:58This is a band-aid.
28:04He's a big fan of health goods.
28:09What's this?
28:13What came out of his bag?
28:19I don't think I need this.
28:23A pamphlet about medical equipment.
28:28Paper bags and other things came out of his bag.
28:34These are things that his father has recently received.
28:40I'm sure you've heard about the exhibition.
28:44I need to get new information.
28:48That's why I got this.
28:53Even after retiring,
28:56he still goes to medical equipment exhibitions.
29:04His father majored in electrical engineering at university.
29:10After graduating,
29:13he worked at a company that sold medical equipment.
29:21He was not only in charge of sales,
29:24but also repair and maintenance of machines.
29:27He was also in charge of maintenance.
29:31When he was asked to repair a machine,
29:34he was so enthusiastic that even on his days off,
29:37he would fly to work.
29:41When I was asked to repair a machine,
29:44I used to go to the end of the year exhibition.
29:47I didn't know what time it would be
29:50when I went back to my hometown.
29:53My family was jealous.
29:56Even after his retirement,
29:59he was still determined to work.
30:02He was looking for a way to continue his work.
30:07His illness was one of the reasons.
30:14I think it's hard.
30:17I still have a lot of things in my mind
30:21that I want to do.
30:23That's why I think it's hard.
30:29Although his path to continue his favorite job
30:32has become difficult,
30:35his father never gives up.
30:39Maybe that's why
30:42he's trying to keep things related to work
30:45close to him.
30:49I put a record machine here.
30:51If I put a record here,
30:54he can listen to it.
31:00He wants to make an exhibition
31:03and encourage his father.
31:06They both had that kind of enthusiasm.
31:10However,
31:14it didn't go so easily.
31:16It didn't go so easily.
31:19Do you need this?
31:22Yes, I do.
31:25I have this, too.
31:28I have this, too.
31:31His desire to make an exhibition
31:34is getting stronger.
31:39Dad, when you're ready,
31:42can you come upstairs?
31:44Finally,
31:47he's starting to make an exhibition.
31:51His father and Misaki
31:54decide on the layout.
31:57I'm going to put that shelf
32:00over here and put sake on it.
32:04Misaki's idea
32:07is the same as his father's.
32:11The sake he's been collecting
32:14is displayed on the shelf.
32:18Here we go.
32:23The audio is on the top shelf
32:26of the closet.
32:29Below that is the medical equipment.
32:32The computer and camera
32:35are put in a separate shelf.
32:40The work was going well,
32:42but Misaki
32:45seemed to be
32:48confused.
32:51I don't think it's going to end.
32:54I don't think it's going to end.
32:57It's hard to make it clean.
33:00I'm worried
33:03if it's going to be clean.
33:07Misaki tries to arrange things
33:09by type,
33:12but there's
33:15not a single thing
33:18that can be called an exhibition.
33:21I don't think
33:24it's going to be something
33:27to encourage his father.
33:30Misaki can't see the goal anymore.
33:35The exhibition
33:37has come to an end.
33:44The next day,
33:49Misaki goes to his mother
33:52for advice.
33:55Where should I make the goal?
33:58I have to make it clean.
34:01How far
34:04should I go?
34:08Misaki's mother
34:11has this opinion.
34:14If I can't throw this away,
34:17I'll have to arrange it.
34:20Are you going to do something about it?
34:23I'd like to, but...
34:26I'd like to reduce it a little more.
34:29If you can.
34:32Misaki's mother
34:34wants him to do something about it.
34:37That's what she thinks.
34:42So,
34:45I decided to ask my father.
34:49What are you going to do with the balance ball?
34:52I have the balance ball.
34:55Are you going to use it?
34:58Do you need all of it?
35:01I don't know yet.
35:04I don't know yet.
35:07If you ask your father,
35:10he'll say he wants to keep it.
35:13Even so,
35:16his mother continues to check.
35:19Do you need it?
35:22I need it.
35:25I need it.
35:28I need this, too.
35:31I need this, too.
35:34Oh!
35:37His father has become an orphan.
35:41Then, all of a sudden...
35:45I didn't have that.
35:48Isn't this the one?
35:51No, it's not.
35:54It was in the pink envelope,
35:57but I lost it.
35:59He said he couldn't find
36:02any proof of COVID-19 vaccination.
36:07It's in the pink envelope.
36:11It's the same as before.
36:14I see. I'll take a look.
36:19His father
36:22went to look for it.
36:26In this case,
36:29he couldn't find it.
36:37I don't know.
36:39I don't know how I feel.
36:42But,
36:45this incident
36:48inspired his mother.
36:51People often ask me
36:54where I got the vaccine.
36:56I have to find it.
36:59I have to find it.
37:02I have to find it.
37:05It's easy to find
37:08where the vaccine is.
37:11He wants to find it
37:14for the exhibition.
37:17When his father
37:20can't find the vaccine,
37:23he doesn't want
37:26a beautiful exhibition
37:29in the first place.
37:32In that case,
37:35he wants a room
37:38where he can see
37:41where the vaccine is.
37:46I'll hide it
37:49so that
37:52he can't find it.
37:55I'll hide it
37:58so that he can see
38:01where the vaccine is.
38:04The concept of the exhibition
38:07is to see where the vaccine is.
38:10Unexpectedly,
38:13he found the vaccine.
38:15The next day
38:20Good morning.
38:23Good morning.
38:27When he asked
38:30if his father's exhibition was finished,
38:37this is what it looks like.
38:42His father's exhibition
38:45is finished.
38:49It looks like it was organized
38:52safely.
38:57The medical equipment
39:00and audio equipment
39:03that were left on the tatami
39:06can now be stored
39:09in the closet.
39:12The big machine
39:16and other small items
39:19are stored in the shelves
39:22in different types.
39:25He also set up a lookout
39:28so that he can see what's where.
39:33He said he didn't want beauty,
39:36but I think it's a wonderful exhibition.
39:38I think it's finished.
39:48How do you feel, father?
39:53I feel refreshed.
39:56I think I've got most of it.
40:01That's how I feel.
40:04What?
40:06That's all you did?
40:09That's what I thought.
40:15You can see the moon with this.
40:18It's a thousand times bigger.
40:23The Showa era of Hazukashigariya.
40:28You can see how satisfied he is
40:31when you look at him
40:33and how happy he is.
40:39In commemoration of the exhibition,
40:42we decided to watch a video
40:45that his father shot.
40:51It's a nostalgic memory
40:54of his family.
41:04It's a nostalgic memory.
41:10It's a home video
41:13that his father shot when he was a baby.
41:17Father,
41:20you must have been a child.
41:24It's the first time I've seen it.
41:27I've never seen it before.
41:30I don't know much about it.
41:33Actually,
41:36I found it 40 years ago
41:39in the back of my room
41:41when I was a boy.
41:55It's a treasure that makes
41:58everyone in the family smile.
42:01I have to display this
42:04at the exhibition.
42:11The mother and her son
42:14had mixed feelings
42:17about their father
42:20and his body.
42:26As they acted together,
42:28their feelings changed.
42:31I found it interesting
42:34when I watched the process.
42:37The purpose of the exhibition
42:40is to clean up and throw away.
42:43But it's not like that.
42:46It's important to create a space
42:49where everyone can be comfortable
42:52and have fun.
42:55I can understand
42:58that it's important
43:01to have a space
43:04where everyone can have fun.
43:07I realized that
43:10when I was a boy.
43:13I realized that
43:16when I was a boy.
43:19I realized that
43:22when I was a boy.
43:25I realized that
43:28when I was a boy.
43:31I realized that
43:34when I was a boy.
43:37I realized that
43:40when I was a boy.
43:43I realized that
43:46when I was a boy.
43:51A new life begins.
43:59The mother's room
44:02has been transformed
44:05into a bedroom.
44:10I'm going to put a futon here.
44:13I'm going to put a futon here.
44:16In the future,
44:19the father may need to be taken care of.
44:23But both of them
44:25are ready to take care of him.
44:28But both of them
44:31are ready to take care of him.
44:34I want to support him
44:37and take care of him.
44:40I'm going to visit him
44:43and see how he's doing.
44:46I'm going to visit him
44:49and see how he's doing.
44:51I'm going to visit him
44:54and see how he's doing.
44:57I'm going to visit him
45:00and see how he's doing.
45:03Hello, everyone.
45:06I'm going to talk to you
45:09about my new program.
45:12I'm going to talk to you
45:15about my new program.
45:18I'm going to talk to you
45:21about my new program.
45:24I'm going to talk to you
45:27about your new program.
45:30And today's host is Ms. Ayaka Aoki.
45:36We're glad to meet Yamashita.
45:45I'm sure our program is going to be a lot of fun.
45:47Thank you for watching BS Asahi's 25th anniversary episode of Uchi Danshari with Hideko Yamashita and the Spring Conversation.
45:56We look forward to seeing you again.