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00:00Today on Forbes, how much is TikTok really worth?
00:06The Supreme Court could rule on a potential TikTok ban in the U.S. as early as Thursday
00:10morning, after justices indicated last week they were likely to uphold the federal law
00:15in question.
00:16The ban would go into effect this Sunday, January 19th, a day before President Trump's
00:21inauguration.
00:23Unless President Biden extends the deadline or Congress passes a new bill introduced earlier
00:27this week, that would give the social media app's Chinese parent company ByteDance another
00:32270 days to divest.
00:35Or ByteDance sells the U.S. version of the platform to American owners.
00:40The big question, how much would TikTok cost?
00:43TikTok is especially hard to value.
00:46There's not only the question of the prized algorithm, but also the fact that it's currently
00:50a division of a private company based in China.
00:53And to complicate things even more, TikTok is technically a subsidiary of shell companies
00:58registered in the financially opaque Cayman Islands, which makes it nearly impossible
01:02for outsiders to know exactly how much revenue, let alone profit, TikTok makes in the U.S.
01:09A forced sale during a temporary ban would likely influence what someone might pay for
01:13TikTok as well.
01:16Counsel for TikTok and ByteDance wrote in court documents that a one-month shutdown
01:20could result in a 29% drop in TikTok's global ad revenue for the year.
01:26There are also potential costs associated with a sale.
01:29DA Davidson analyst Gil Luria says, quote,
01:33TikTok would need to create a lot of new infrastructure that it would lose from its parent company
01:37in a potential spinoff.
01:40Keeping those complications in mind, here are four potential ways to value TikTok.
01:45Number one, Frank McCourt's $20 billion offer.
01:50An investor group led by Frank McCourt, the real estate billionaire who used to own the
01:54L.A. Dodgers and his nonprofit Project Liberty, thinks that it will be able to buy TikTok
01:58in the U.S. without its algorithm for $20 billion.
02:02ByteDance, which has repeatedly said that TikTok is not for sale, hasn't publicly acknowledged
02:07the offer.
02:08$20 billion is approximately equal to the enterprise value of competitor Snapchat.
02:14Benchmark analyst Mark Zagutowicz says one way to get to that number is if they'd valued
02:19TikTok based on a multiple of the number of users.
02:23$20 billion equates to about $120 per each of TikTok's 170 million American users.
02:30That's between the comparable ratios of Snapchat and Meta.
02:35Number two, market's multiple magic.
02:38A common way to value a consumer tech company, like TikTok, is as a multiple of revenue.
02:44TikTok generates revenue from advertising, live streaming videos, and e-commerce.
02:49In Singapore, where good data is available, the latter two categories made up 83% of 2023
02:56revenue.
02:57While TikTok published 2023 revenue of roughly $13 billion for its two other main subsidiaries
03:02registered outside of China, it does not disclose its sales for the U.S.
03:07Let's say that U.S. revenue in 2023 was $16 billion, as reported by the Financial Times,
03:13citing anonymous sources, and that ByteDance's revenue outside of China grew at least 40%
03:19in the first half of 2024, as reported by the Information, citing knowledgeable sources.
03:25That gives us a rough guess of $22 billion in U.S. sales in 2024.
03:31Analysts Gutwitz and Luria then both recommended an enterprise value-to-revenue multiple of
03:36six times, which is somewhere in between that of Snap, 3.5x, and Meta, 8x.
03:43Applying that to the $22 billion revenue estimates would yield a rough value of $132 billion.
03:50That's including TikTok's algorithm.
03:533. The $300 Billion Golden Algorithm
03:58ByteDance's machine-learning-powered algorithm is uniquely good at capturing user behavior
04:03and captivating users by recommending personalized content, such as which new videos to watch.
04:09Though ByteDance is unlikely to sell it, and there's no real precedent for valuing an algorithm
04:13separately from an operating company, some analysts have thought about it.
04:18For Wedbush analyst Dan Ives, the algorithm is gold.
04:21He thinks TikTok would be worth $300 billion with it, emphasizing the advertising revenue
04:27potential from, quote, 200 million potential highly-engaged U.S. customers.
04:334. Just the Bare Bones
04:36Benchmark's Zagutowitz actually thinks TikTok's U.S. revenues are lower than what the Financial
04:41Times reported, closer to $13 billion, and guesses it is worth around $55 billion without
04:48the algorithm.
04:49Wedbush's Ives also thinks it's worth just $40 billion to $50 billion without the algorithm.
04:56For full coverage, check out Phoebe Liu and Matt Duro's piece on Forbes.com.
05:03This is Kieran Meadows from Forbes.
05:05Thanks for tuning in.