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Is Imran Khan seeing the negotiations as successful? Ali Amin Gandapu
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00:00We just met the committee of Muzakirat, but you had a separate meeting with Mr. Khan.
00:05He said that this is the real meeting.
00:07Find the news here, the rest is fine.
00:09So, Mr. Khan, are you satisfied with the success of Muzakirat?
00:12I think they are just fooling us, but okay, expose them.
00:15What do you think?
00:17I think that when a person does any work,
00:21because our faith is in Allah,
00:23so if a person has a good thought,
00:26then Allah will bless him.
00:30So, I don't comment on this,
00:33because what I am doing,
00:35I am doing it with a good intention,
00:37with the permission of Mr. Khan,
00:39for Pakistan,
00:40despite all the injustices I have faced.
00:42So, I think that if I say that
00:44until there is no response,
00:47I don't comment on this,
00:50because it is possible that my comments are not correct,
00:53and Allah decides
00:55that when these things are going to be fixed,
00:57so, I think, with a good intention,
01:00without any doubt,
01:01a person should do everything.
01:02As it is, doubt is haram in Islam.
01:04You should have a good intention.
01:05They say that the moment you have a doubt,
01:07don't do that work.
01:08So, if I create a doubt in me,
01:11then I should not be a part of the committee.
01:13That's why I want to stay away from doubt.
01:15Right, and in this,
01:16first of all, you want to become a Judicial Commissioner,
01:18and secondly, the release of prisoners.
01:19Do you want the release of prisoners through an executive order?
01:21Look, the release of prisoners,
01:23we don't have any such case on them.
01:25That's why you want to be released through an executive order?
01:27No, through a legal process.
01:28I want to be released through a court process.
01:29The pressure on the courts,
01:30What then?
01:31that now,
01:32for example,
01:33our people of 26th November,
01:35now, each and every person
01:36has been given FIRs in 5-6 police stations.
01:38I have arrested people from D.E. Khan,
01:40and put them in the Lahore case.
01:42Although, they had gone here.
01:44Then, I put them in Sargodha.
01:45Then, I put them in Mianwali.
01:46All this shouldn't happen.
01:47So, they are making us go around.
01:48Then, we apply for bail.
01:51The judge went on leave.
01:53Then, the judge changed.
01:54They didn't take our people.
01:56They didn't present them.
01:57So, these tactics should be banned.
01:59Otherwise, we will do our legal work.
02:01You don't want the release through an executive order?
02:02No, we don't need it.
02:03Look, it's a baseless case.
02:05There were innocent people.
02:06They had gone for a peaceful protest.
02:08They were shot at.
02:10Their police was killed.
02:11They were arrested illegally.
02:13It's an illegal work.
02:14It's not just a case of presenting.
02:15It will end on its own.
02:16Sir, show some leniency.
02:18You are saying that the 3rd session will take place on 17th.
02:20If the Judicial Commission is not formed in that session,
02:22then the protest will end.
02:23They will say that they will give us some time.
02:25We will think and tell you.
02:26If the Commission will not be formed in the 3rd session,
02:28then the protest will end.
02:29No, the meaning of the Commission being formed is that
02:30there will be an announcement.
02:31There will be no announcement.
02:32Then, the Commission will be formed.
02:34Who will be in the Commission?
02:35Who will be the head?
02:36Who else will be there?
02:37How can all this happen on 17th?
02:38No, we are not saying that the Commission should be formed.
02:40People should be allowed.
02:41We are saying that we should have an agreement with this.
02:45That the Commission should be formed.
02:47And what is there in the Commission?
02:48You tell me.
02:49What is their danger in the Commission?
02:52They say that we have done it.
02:53There they themselves are saying that the Commission should be formed.
02:55So, they should be happy.
02:57Okay, the second thing is that
02:59the people who are our bosses,
03:01we don't disown them.
03:02They did stupidity.
03:04They made a mistake.
03:05They entered somewhere.
03:06So, at least I don't disown them.
03:08They were my people.
03:10They were the people of our party.
03:11And they should be punished or they should be forgiven?
03:13Whoever is punished according to the law of the land,
03:17they should be punished.
03:19As much as they are.
03:20If they have done this much,
03:22then this much punishment cannot be given to them.
03:24Now, what is happening?
03:25Now, our boy has just been released from the military trial.
03:29You have seen his old video.
03:32He is such a brave, talkative,
03:34a boy who becomes the voice of people.
03:37He is the deputy minister.
03:38Now, after coming back,
03:40he has lost his mental balance.
03:42And his speech,
03:44the pitch of his speech,
03:46that is a complete change.
03:48So, this...
03:49You are saying that our people made a mistake.
03:50Punish them as much as they have committed a crime.
03:52This didn't reach this stage.
03:55It must have reached at that time.
03:57So, why was he kept in such a state
03:59that he reached to this extent and left to this extent?
04:02So, see, there are our people.
04:04There is a mistake.
04:05Except for Allah,
04:06every person is a statue of sin.
04:08He can make a mistake.
04:09The meaning of a mistake is not that
04:11you make it unlawful
04:12and make it a personal ego
04:14and go to this extent with someone.
04:16Sometimes you shoot him.
04:17Sometimes you torture him.
04:18You torture at a level
04:20that you have never done with those people
04:22who were really terrorists.
04:24You declare someone
04:26that he is a terrorist of social media.
04:28I don't know what name you have given him.
04:30You say to someone,
04:32that he was armed.
04:34Where were we armed?
04:36If we were armed,
04:38then what happened to us,
04:40then what happened to us?
04:42And then they put a ranger on us.
04:44Do you know who is the owner of that ranger's car?
04:47Who is it?
04:48You check it.
04:49He was a very responsible man of his party.
04:53He is his nephew.
04:55And he is on drugs.
04:59He was not driving himself.
05:00He is the owner.
05:01He was driving himself.
05:02He was driving himself.
05:03The owner was driving himself.
05:04He is with them.
05:05That man is on drugs.
05:07And he was not coming with us.
05:09He got into a car
05:11in Islamabad.
05:13And he made an FIR on us.
05:15What kind of humanity is this?
05:17I have an FIR of 302 on me.
05:21I have an FIR of 9 May on Imran Khan.
05:23In Lahore.
05:25Justice should be done.
05:27Absolutely right.
05:29Agreeing to this,
05:31I would say that when you are saying
05:33that we have made mistakes,
05:35then I own it.
05:37If I have a person,
05:39because of ignorance,
05:41because of a mistake,
05:43because of foolishness,
05:45because of emotions,
05:47if he has crossed a line,
05:49then he should be punished for crossing that line.
05:51He should be punished.
05:53It is not that I make a mistake
05:55and you give me such a big punishment.
05:57Then you don't think the idea is right
05:59that when they say 9 May,
06:01you should apologize.
06:03No.
06:05If you want to arrest me,
06:07then do it.
06:09And then you go there,
06:11break the doors,
06:13break the windows,
06:15catch him by the collar.
06:17He is such a popular leader.
06:19You drag him like this.
06:21You yourself have aroused the emotions of the people.
06:23And when you arouse the emotions of the people,
06:25then if people protest,
06:27then obviously,
06:29if someone goes a little ahead in their emotions,
06:31then you will make him a terrorist.
06:33It is not like that.
06:35Now,
06:37if we go ahead in this,
06:39then let's complete the topic of negotiations first.
06:41Do you think that the sudden attack
06:43was considered bad because of some tweets?
06:45Was it because of some tweets from Khan's account?
06:47No.
06:49I think that there was a gap between us.
06:51One of the reasons was that
06:53we had a meeting.
06:55It was demanded that we have a meeting
06:57with our Khan.
06:59And in that,
07:01Mr. Aiyaz Sadiq
07:03was busy for 2-3 days.
07:05He was out of station.
07:07So, he could not attend the meeting.
07:09So, there was a gap of a few days.
07:11And as soon as he came back,
07:13we had a meeting with our Khan.
07:15And tomorrow,
07:17the day after tomorrow,
07:19we will have a meeting again.

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