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00:30The movement is going on, Mr. Dallewaaz and Mr. Pandhar,
00:32who were our two co-organisers of the two farmers' unions.
00:37And for the last eight to nine months,
00:38they have been sitting at the border, at the Khannuri border.
00:41Day before yesterday, a very big meeting took place there.
00:44And in the same way, in our Tohana,
00:48in a corner of Haryana, which is separated from Punjab,
00:53Mr. Rakesh Trikesh and everyone else,
00:54a very big panchayat of farmers has taken place there.
00:57As far as food is concerned, I think it should not be considered food.
01:01This is not food.
01:02In fact, in every state, in a different way,
01:05our farmers' panchayats are being held all over the country.
01:09And they are being held for the reason that
01:11when all over the country, with full strength,
01:14we have the same demands,
01:15which we had given to the Indian government three years ago.
01:20Today, as it is, it is in the hands of the Indian government.
01:24They have not taken any action on it till date.
01:27Now, as far as the situation is concerned,
01:32Mr. Dallewal's situation is very delicate today.
01:37And even in that delicate situation,
01:39the Supreme Court, which is our highest court,
01:42has also taken its judgment.
01:44Despite that, the Indian government is not listening.
01:47They talk about the state.
01:48It is not a matter of Punjab and Haryana.
01:51This is not a subject of the state.
01:53And the biggest movement on behalf of the MSP
01:56that they have started is a matter of the central government.
02:02So far, the movement of the central government...
02:04The movement that the farmers are doing
02:05is only in front of Punjab and Haryana.
02:08The farmers of the whole country do not come to the movement.
02:10No.
02:11Our last movement was not only of Haryana and Punjab,
02:15but also of Haryana, Punjab, Rajasthan,
02:18Madhya Pradesh, Uttar Pradesh, Maharashtra,
02:21Tamil Nadu, Karnataka.
02:24Our Indian Farmers Union, which we call the ticket group,
02:28our union is 18.
02:30In 18 states of this country, we have a union up to 100.
02:34And every official and worker of our country
02:37was involved in that movement.
02:39And even later, whenever...
02:41The Sanyut Kisan Morcha was there earlier,
02:43we are still with the Sanyut Kisan Morcha.
02:46All our leaders of the Sanyut Kisan Morcha,
02:51whatever decisions those leaders will take,
02:53we will fight that battle with strength.
02:57The British government says that there is no need to protest in Haryana.
03:00The MSP is being given here on 24 crops.
03:04There is no need to protest the farmers of Haryana.
03:07No, this is the same thing.
03:08The government of Haryana, the Chief Minister of Haryana also says
03:11that we are giving on 24 crops.
03:13But now tell me that where there are 5 or 6 crops in Haryana,
03:18the 18 to 20 crops that are there in Haryana,
03:21you are talking about their MSP?
03:23I am saying that you should talk to the central government.
03:27You say that the MSP that we have written,
03:30and the MSP...
03:32I am not just saying this about the MSP.
03:34I have never said this.
03:36It is not our demand that the crops of the MSP
03:40that are grown in the farms of the farmers,
03:42the government should buy all of them.
03:44I have never said this. This is not our demand.
03:46Our demand is that the MSP that the government of Haryana
03:51has decided on the price for the farmers,
03:54the government should buy as much as the government needs.
03:57Even today, the government has not bought more than 6%
03:59according to the marketing board.
04:01But whatever is left,
04:03whoever buys the crops of the farmers,
04:06whether the private players buy big or small,
04:10they should not buy the value less than the price
04:13that the government of Haryana has decided on.
04:16This is our demand.
04:17We are not able to understand that.
04:18How can we find a solution to this problem?
04:20Until the MSP's legal guarantee is not given,
04:24this is the only legal guarantee.
04:27Today, the government of Haryana,
04:29the ruling class people say that they have given the MSP.
04:32They have given the MSP, that is what we are saying.
04:34The MSP that they have given,
04:36the legal guarantee of that is that
04:39whatever the government buys,
04:41apart from that, the crops of the farmers,
04:43the legal guarantee of that is that
04:46whatever they buy, they should not buy less than that price.
04:49This is the legal guarantee.
04:51And the day the MSP's legal guarantee is given,
04:54on that day, half of the solution will be there.
04:56Only at that time, half of the solution will be there.
04:58When will the complete solution be there?
05:00When our report of Swaminathan will be implemented,
05:04then the farmer's solution will be there.
05:07Do you expect the government to listen to you?
05:09No, no matter how much the government listens to anyone,
05:15when the listener is strong and the voice is heard more,
05:18then definitely the work of listening will be done.
05:21In this movement, there was a movement before,
05:25the farmers' movement was one.
05:26Now, it doesn't seem that some movement is moving forward,
05:30some are behind, all are not able to co-operate.
05:32No, no, even before, look, for so many years,
05:36the farmers' union, all the farmers' unions working in the country,
05:41all of them used to raise their demands in their own way.
05:43And when the time came, all of them got together.
05:47And the same 40 old leaders of the union movement,
05:52even today, we are with the old leaders of the union farmer's movement.
05:56And whenever there will be a proper meeting,
05:59a proper date will be fixed, a proper system will be made,
06:03and after that, the union movement will not break anywhere.
06:07Along with the strength within the unity of the union movement,
06:11we will work to advance the demands of the farmers.
06:14What is the reason that the farmers from other parts of Haryana
06:17are joining the movement?
06:18The farmers of our Palwal are not able to join the movement,
06:21they are not able to protest with their mothers.
06:23No, it is not like that.
06:24Even before, you saw, people used to say like this.
06:26Last time also, there was a very long protest in Palwal.
06:30And now, there, through the farmers' panchayats,
06:34see, those who are connected there,
06:36now practically, we are not sitting on the streets of Haryana,
06:39in the entire state.
06:41Through the rallies, through the farmers,
06:43So, if there will be a proper meeting,
06:45will you join the movement?
06:46Yes, there, in Palle, Haryana, in the state,
06:49the farmers, their leaders,
06:51they have also held meetings at many places,
06:53they have said that we will join this movement.
06:56In fact, I am also saying this through you,
06:58the farmers of our district were also with us before,
07:01and will also be with us in the future,
07:02whenever the decision of the Sanyud Kisan Morcha will be announced,
07:07on that day, with full strength,
07:09whether it is Palwal or Haryana,
07:12everywhere, we will protest under the leadership of the Sanyud Kisan Morcha,
07:16and it will be with full strength.
07:17Thank you for talking to us.
07:20With us was the President of the Indian Farmers Union,
07:22Mr. Ratan Singh Sourav,
07:23who told us that the day the Sanyud Kisan Morcha will be decided,
07:27all the unions will come together,
07:30and with full strength, they will keep their demands.
07:34Because, let's talk,
07:36the way the Dalai Lama is a farmer,
07:37he is on hunger strike,
07:38he said that the 24 crops that the government talks about,
07:41if those crops are not grown in our Haryana,
07:44then what will be the benefit of the MSP of those crops?
07:48But the biggest thing is that,
07:49he also says that the Sanyud Kisan Morcha will be decided soon,
07:53so the farmers of Palwal, the farmers of Haryana,
07:55the farmers of Punjab,
07:55the farmers of the surrounding states,
07:56all will come together to keep their demands,
08:00and he says that the government will have to listen to them.
08:03Palwal Sehwag Dinesh Kumar