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00:00Pandit Suman Ghosh ji, first of all, welcome to India and your local heritage of Indian classical music, you have come from such a long distance, so first of all tell us, the establishment of Saptak, Manju band and Zakir Hussain's Nidhan America, so first of all, what is your feeling?
00:25There is a word called Indra Patan, it is the same for us, in their respective areas, the area where they have left their stamp, it was both common and different,
00:43so first of all I would like to say about our Vidushi Manju ji, I said in his remembrance that what happens is that we all see dreams to move ahead of us,
01:01but when we see that dream for others or for our field or subject, then it becomes Saptak,
01:20this dream was seen by our Pandit Nandan ji, Vidushi Manju ji, and it was really seen, all of us artists, in thousands, all of us have this feeling that there is a place for us in their heart,
01:35there is a place for us in their heart, there is a place for thousands more, there were true stalwarts with such a big heart, true stalwarts, because what they have given us, it is very difficult to express it in words,
01:51music was very powerful, very powerful, but at the same time, to be able to see the rest of the field, to think of it as our own and move ahead, to wake up at night, Saptak, 13 nights,
02:08for all the sitting artists, to tell them that I am there for them, this is a very big thing.
02:18Panditji, how is the enthusiasm to learn Indian classical music in America, in the Indian community and the American community?
02:27It is like this, now Indian culture has started to be propagated in a very organized way.
02:41Westerners, Americans, they have one quality, they are very religious, very powerful, you know, they are very religious, so whatever they do, they do it with full faith.
02:58Their focus on tradition is sometimes ahead of us, and the Indians who live there, because it is our motherland, and the beautiful heritage and tradition of our motherland, they all miss it, first-hand experience,
03:19they are not able to give it to the next generation, so everyone is trying to adopt it. So whatever I am saying from my experience, whoever comes to us, people of two categories come, one to learn and one to listen.
03:40In the case of listeners, let me tell you a small thing, the tradition of classical music has been that the wise ones, the connoisseurs, we want them to sit in a gathering, to praise, to praise at the right place,
03:57but I have always tried from the first day, that those who have nothing to do with music, classical music is far away, they should also be brought, and only that success can move this music forward.
04:11Now it is happening, I am not saying it alone, many great people have worked, we are also on the same path.
04:19Pandit Suman Ghosh ji, you are very close to Pandit Jasraj ji, so if you have any memories of Pandit Jasraj ji, please share.
04:32I have a Guru, and I have a Guru, and I will have a Guru for the rest of my life, for many lifetimes. So there is no shortage of memories, there are so many memories.
04:46There is a difference between a teacher and a Guru. A teacher gives knowledge, he takes care of a specific subject, but a Guru takes care of our whole life.
05:09So our Guru, whose name you took, Sangeet Matant, Pandit Jasraj ji, my Guru ji, he took care of all the parts of our life.
05:17If you have a bad mind, call him 20 times a day. If you are not feeling well, talk to the doctor. How long will you be fine?
05:28In every way, a father is a father who gives birth, and God has given us another father as a blessing in this life.
05:39Pandit ji, there is a big tradition of Sastrya Sangeet, how is the tradition of Guru-Shishya, is there anything new in it?
05:54In the olden days, Guru-Shishya used to be with the Guru. This was the basic principle of Guru Parampara.
06:03Now it is difficult to do that, especially in western countries, because the career of the children is already so great that something is going to happen in the future.
06:17So they do not want to make any other field a career. So whatever they come to learn, it is a part-time passion, part-time commitment for them.
06:28But there is seriousness in that too. I just did a concert in Kolkata, a very big concert.
06:34I had a disciple with me who was on vocal support, he was born and brought up there, he has been trained there.
06:40So now the Guru Parampara has been modernized a little, but it is the same.
06:45The same raga, the same emotion, the same faith, the same love, the same care. It is still very beautiful.
06:55In today's youth, which gharana, which raga motivates them to learn?
07:05See, gharana is everything, everything is great, all the gharanas.
07:10But as the days go by, the borderline of the gharanas is also getting a little blurry.
07:17The reason for this is, you see the world.
07:21Earlier, the things of one place used to remain there.
07:26Now there is no speciality of any one place. Now everything is global in the whole world.
07:31Music has also become like this, our classical music.
07:34And from the beginning, the good gurus used to always say that pick up good things wherever you find them.
07:42My guru has said, my gurus have said.
07:45So now your question was about gharana, about ragas.
07:51Raga is a traditional raga, there is no parallel to it.
07:56New ragas are also being made, we are making them.
08:00This is also a good sign, this is progress, evolution.
08:04But the traditional ragas, they come properly first.
08:09We take difficult ragas and try, but the simple, basic ragas are too much for one life.
08:18It takes many lives for that.
08:21What is the craze to learn more ragas or vocals in youth?
08:28You will be surprised to hear that the ragas that feel,
08:33even if they pass 50 years of their life, they still feel a little.
08:39Today's children, at the age of 15 or 12, they have a desire to learn, to sing.
08:46They are practicing it.
08:49So we think that they are young, there is no depth on them yet.
08:55They are going to come later. It is not like that.
08:57In that country, they call it fast life, in western countries,
09:02I see that people are standing to sing, to understand, to yearn for it.
09:08They are yearning to sing.
09:11So the future is very bright.
09:17There is nothing to worry about.
09:21There is one more concern.
09:24Artificial intelligence.
09:27In music, art and classical music,
09:32is it easy for us?
09:36It is a very beautiful question. Thank you.
09:39AI has created a stir all over the world.
09:44Recently, many people have asked me this question in a gathering.
09:48Is AI going to substitute the artists as far as Indian classical music goes?
10:00Because I can say a little about the rest.
10:04I told them that if ever such a time comes,
10:10if AI substitutes the artists for classical music,
10:18I will grow my moustache and turn it around.
10:23I am telling you the same.
10:26There is a limit to everything.
10:30God and science.
10:33There is a lot of debate on this.
10:36Everyone has faith in science.
10:38But it is God who has created science.
10:41We believe this.
10:43That is why music is created by God.
10:46Science cannot change it.
10:48If someone changes it, only God can change it.
10:52That's it.
10:54So nice of you. Thank you.